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uggy posted:Launch the fleet is the best limited card and I want to play it in constructed. Wrong, hour of need is the best limited card. They're both amazing fun cards really.
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uggy posted:Launch the fleet is the best limited card and I want to play it in constructed. White Weenies. Turn 1 Soldier Turn 2 Soldier Dryad Militant, swing two. Turn 3 Brimaz, swing six. Turn 4 Launch and Strive 3 times, swing 13. 
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May 4, 2014 01:14
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Wrong, hour of need is the best limited card. They're both amazing fun cards really. Hour of Need and Harness By Force are the best.
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May 4, 2014 01:17
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mcmagic posted:Hour of Need and Harness By Force are the best. Polymorphous Rush is absolutely the best. I think what we're saying is that Strive is a loving awesome mechanic.
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May 4, 2014 01:19
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Count Bleck posted:White Weenies. turn 1 soldier turn 2 soldier, dryad militant, swing two turn 3 launch, strive twice swing 9 turn 4 spear of heliod swing 15
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May 4, 2014 01:25
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uggy posted:turn 1 soldier Okay fine but I get a bunch of soldier tokens which is very relevant because it's more damage split over a larger set of creautres. Also you're a buttface and smell like farts 
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May 4, 2014 01:27
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B/G dredge living the dream of Nighthowler bestowed on Nighthowler. Swing for 18.
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May 4, 2014 01:31
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Loving Life Partner posted:The announcers keep mentioning 20 lands, but with Caryatids, Wayfinders, Grisly, and Commune is 20 really awful? I guess the answer can easily be "YES." given this evidence but generally speaking I suppose. I'll be going up to 21 or 22, being short one creature in the 'yard isn't really going to hurt you while being one land short is completely crippling. Especially since you've now got the scrylands to help avoid drawing any extras.
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May 4, 2014 01:38
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Neat, I made 17 tickets off the free events today, and I still have a draft set of Shadowmoor/Eventide left. Pauper Stompy here I come!
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May 4, 2014 01:44
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I like that dredge is doing well but I hope it doesn't do too well because people might start side boarding against it. Conflicting.
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May 4, 2014 01:48
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Four loving Detention Spheres.
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May 4, 2014 01:49
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Count Bleck posted:Four loving Detention Spheres. And four dissipates. Heartbreaking.
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May 4, 2014 01:56
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Count Bleck posted:All it's missing is the 1/1 mana dork, actually. I just restarted in theros, has there ever not been a dork in the core set? I know mystic elf is new. In M13, wasn't it untap a forest elf? I don't know anything further back.
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May 4, 2014 02:39
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Boxman posted:I just restarted in theros, has there ever not been a dork in the core set? I know mystic elf is new. In M13, wasn't it untap a forest elf? I don't know anything further back. No. The closest is exactly that: Arbor Elf didn't techinically generate any mana. (Corner case where you draw temples and don't have forest to untap.) However, WotC tried to make the standard for mana elves 2drops back in Onslaught and the community kicked back against it hard. There hasn't been this kick this time, so they might be trying to use that to slow the green decks down a touch by maknig them use voyaging saytr/sylvan caryatid/Golden Hind. Though I still think they might have changed Golden Hind in development. I think it might have been a Birds of Paradise replacement, but then they decided it was pushed as a piker, or maybe havign it AND sylvan Caryatid both produce any colour in block was too good, something like that. Wait and see for M15, I guess.
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May 4, 2014 02:53
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Every core set from Alpha through to 8th had Birds of Paradise, 9th through M12 had Llanowar Elves, M13 had Arbor Elf and M14 has Elvish Mystic. Many of those sets had more than one 1-drop mana dork. That said, there's quite a glut of 2-drop mana dorks in Theros. It wouldn't be completely out of the question to not print a 1-drop mana dork until partway through Ducks block, just shake that up a little.
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May 4, 2014 02:55
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Junk midrange looks really rad, Advent man, dang.
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May 4, 2014 03:01
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All right, only 5 out of a possible 32 Mana Confluence in the SCG Top 8, hopefully that means the price will continue to drop.
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May 4, 2014 03:16
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Boco_T posted:All right, only 5 out of a possible 32 Mana Confluence in the SCG Top 8, hopefully that means the price will continue to drop. I've been trying to tell people it's just City of Brass (which already exists and isn't really played in eternal formats) so not to buy in at full price, but  people love wasting money
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May 4, 2014 03:21
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BW Midrange was 1st place after cut to top 8, or am I misreading something? (Also woo that guy is local and plays at my LGS)
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May 4, 2014 03:22
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Tharizdun posted:I've been trying to tell people it's just City of Brass (which already exists and isn't really played in eternal formats) so not to buy in at full price, but Yeah, but Mana Confluence dodges City in a Bottle.
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May 4, 2014 03:30
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Devor posted:Yeah, but Mana Confluence dodges City in a Bottle. Arabian Nights block must've been dreadful.
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May 4, 2014 03:31
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Tharizdun posted:I've been trying to tell people it's just City of Brass (which already exists and isn't really played in eternal formats) so not to buy in at full price, but
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May 4, 2014 03:31
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Devor posted:Yeah, but Mana Confluence dodges City in a Bottle. Because of the updated wording that gives it a state-based trigger, what happens when I control Oubliette and Avacyn and my opponent controls City in a Bottle? Draw?
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May 4, 2014 03:32
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Count Bleck posted:Arabian Nights block must've been dreadful. Arabian Nights was before the block structure 
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May 4, 2014 03:34
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Tharizdun posted:Because of the updated wording that gives it a state-based trigger, what happens when I control Oubliette and Avacyn and my opponent controls City in a Bottle? Draw? Indestructible does not stop you sacrificing permanents.
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May 4, 2014 03:37
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mehall posted:Indestructible does not stop you sacrificing permanents.  I meant Sigarda
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May 4, 2014 03:39
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Count Bleck posted:Honestly what does RG have after rotation?
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Tharizdun posted:
I believe it only triggers the once for any single permanent, and Sigarda would stop you sacc-ing it, so you get to keep both. Whether or not thats how it's coded on MTGO, I don't know :P (But City in a bottle is not on MTGO. Maybe for this reason.) (And I knew you meant Sigarda :P)
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May 4, 2014 03:42
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Entropic posted:What does any deck have? It's an entirely new set we know zero about. I mean you get the fabulous Mono U 4 turn special: Dakra, Starfish, Thassa, Master of Waves. Which seems about as mediocre as it sounds.
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May 4, 2014 03:43
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Count Bleck posted:I mean you get the fabulous Mono U 4 turn special: Dakra, Starfish, Thassa, Master of Waves. Dakra Mystic might actually be playable in Mono-U since the problems you usually run into are that you need more cards to dump on the board.
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May 4, 2014 03:49
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Tharizdun posted:Because of the updated wording that gives it a state-based trigger, what happens when I control Oubliette and Avacyn and my opponent controls City in a Bottle? Draw? I think so. Whenever someone receives priority, the ability triggers, you try to sacrifice it but Sigarda doesn't let you, so the ability does nothing. Then state-based effects occur, the ability re-triggers...
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May 4, 2014 03:55
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Entropic posted:What does any deck have? It's an entirely new set we know zero about. The graveyard deck seems like it could be pretty good. It loses Jarad and Salvage, but keeping Pharika, Nighthowler, and Commune means that a lot of its engine is still online.
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May 4, 2014 03:56
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Trying to speculate about post-rotation standard will never not be dumb.
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Boxman posted:The graveyard deck seems like it could be pretty good. It loses Jarad and Salvage, but keeping Pharika, Nighthowler, and Commune means that a lot of its engine is still online. Kruphix's insight can replace salvage, but its a bit of a downgrade unless you start jamming enchantments in there and bump up the land count.
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Between Commune, Kruphix's Insight, Satyr Wayfinder and Nyx Weaver, there are still plenty of graveyard-filling effects. You can't get away with only 20 land without Salvage, and you lose a fair bit of your reach in Jarad and Lotleth Troll, but Herald of Torment is still good evasion and hopefully there'll be a cheap, resilient trampler for Bestowing things on in the core set or the next block. Comedy option Charging Badger.
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Tharizdun posted:I've been trying to tell people it's just City of Brass (which already exists and isn't really played in eternal formats) so not to buy in at full price, but I play City of Brass all the time 
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May 4, 2014 04:06
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Tharizdun posted:I've been trying to tell people it's just City of Brass (which already exists and isn't really played in eternal formats) so not to buy in at full price, but Yeah but then you don't play standard or what?
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May 4, 2014 04:08
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Boco_T posted:All right, only 5 out of a possible 32 Mana Confluence in the SCG Top 8, hopefully that means the price will continue to drop. I thought all the hype was about its use post rotation. With shocks in, it's not really going to find its place yet.
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May 4, 2014 04:10
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Tharizdun posted:I've been trying to tell people it's just City of Brass (which already exists and isn't really played in eternal formats) so not to buy in at full price, but I traded two Confluence for two Thoughtseize the other day and consider that I got the best of that deal. I think its current price is not sustainable.
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I traded one the day I got it for 4 scrylands I needed and I'm trying to get rid of this second one I have before a drop. $20 is too high to expect it to stay, even after rotation. Not many decks will want more than 2 probably anyways.
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