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Groda posted:Bilibino NPP (RBMK-derived) does district heating, and Leningrad II NPP (PWR) is planned to, too. Do they have an extra heat exchanger for the heating loop or are they pumping water from the reactor straight into people's radiators? 
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spankmeister posted:Do you know what reactor type it was? (BWR or PWR or something else) PWR with heavy water as the moderator. The fuel was unenriched uranium oxide, which theoretically could be mined domestically. In the late 50's/early 60's the nuclear hype was fairly big in Sweden too and the idea was that we should become energy independent by building lots of nuclear reactors that could use our own uranium. There was a rather serious nuclear weapons program too but the entire thing was cancelled in the late 60's for political reasons and while the reactor intended to produce weapons grade plutonium was completed, it was never loaded and started. The reactor vessel still exists today and has apparently been used for various failure simulations.
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holocaust bloopers posted:If I were a US AF commander, I'd exercise restraint in giving an opponent looks at the Raptor. It's best to always keep the other guy wondering what exactly are your capabilities. True, but a deterrence only works if the other guy knows that you're not bluffing. Surging a flight of Raptors would be a real hard indicator that the US is done loving around in response to the Ukraine crisis. They got a lot of looks at the Raptor's capabilities from their intercepts off Alaska, anyway.
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holocaust bloopers posted:i am gay for raptors Were they going hog-wild with their active EM equipment, radar and all? movax fucked around with this message at 21:10 on May 2, 2014 |
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May 2, 2014 20:43
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movax posted:Were they going hog-wild with their active EM equipment, radar and all? Edited. Couldn't tell you. I'd just go back and watch the radar scope as the F-22s said hi to the Bears. 
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holocaust bloopers posted:Couldn't tell you. I'd just go back and watch the F-22s go say hi to the Bears. Huh, I figured the Raptors would just speed up to the intercept in electronic silence (vectored in via AWACS) and then annoy/dart around Bears for awhile before heading back in. movax fucked around with this message at 21:01 on May 2, 2014 |
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movax posted:Huh, I figured the Raptors would just speed up to the intercept in electronic silence (vectored in via AWACS) and then annoy/dart around Bears for awhile before heading back in. Edited bloops fucked around with this message at 20:55 on May 2, 2014 |
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TheFluff posted:PWR with heavy water as the moderator. The fuel was unenriched uranium oxide, which theoretically could be mined domestically. In the late 50's/early 60's the nuclear hype was fairly big in Sweden too and the idea was that we should become energy independent by building lots of nuclear reactors that could use our own uranium. There was a rather serious nuclear weapons program too but the entire thing was cancelled in the late 60's for political reasons and while the reactor intended to produce weapons grade plutonium was completed, it was never loaded and started. You're probably refering to Marviken (R4) here, but it was a legitimate reactor design which was planned to be a pre-pilot plant of a domestically designed nuclear fuel cycle (mine -> plant -> reprocessing) without enrichment facilities or imports for commercial power production. The intention to build pure plutonium producing plants had been nixed (public source, holocaust bloopers has made enough opsec violations for this thread) in the 1950's. Ågesta (R3), on the other hand, did absolutely produce weapons grade plutonium (public source), though not much. It was sent back to the US a couple of years ago. quote:The reactor vessel still exists today and has apparently been used for various failure simulations. Ågesta (R3) wasn't the one used for testing containment behavior after a loss of coolant accident. That was Marviken (R4). It is an incredibly well-studied experiment that was basically "hey watch this." (NRC stuff) It's pretty much the only full-size containment experiment we have to validate computer models with (other than Fukushima  ).EDIT: Also, Ågesta is awesome, and I wish they had public tours. All the equipment has the same enamel colour scheme as a 1960's kitchen. Groda fucked around with this message at 22:18 on May 2, 2014 |
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Crescendo posted:It's my understanding that the missiles on the fuselage stations do eject a short distance as the rocket motor ignites. Missiles on the wing stations (AIM-9 or AIM-120) fire immediately with no ejection. Yes, the fuselage stations (or inboard CFT stations on the E model) drop the missile free before ignition. The ones on the pylon shoulder stations are on rails (LAU-127, 128, or 129 for an AMRAAM) where the missile ignites and slides along the rail before detaching. This allows it to clear anything mounted on the primary pylon station.  A launch off a fuselage station  A model, but shows how crazy things get if you put the outboard wing stations back on like the new Saudi jets have.  Fake edit: here's a picture of a mockup of the new saudi jets.  
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wkarma posted:
So these get about 15 minutes of on-station time before they bingo?
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Groda posted:You're probably refering to Marviken (R4) here, but it was a legitimate reactor design which was planned to be a pre-pilot plant of a domestically designed nuclear fuel cycle (mine -> plant -> reprocessing) without enrichment facilities or imports for commercial power production. The intention to build pure plutonium producing plants had been nixed (public source, holocaust bloopers has made enough opsec violations for this thread) in the 1950's. I'm sorry, it wasn't a very coherent post. I was talking about both Ågesta and Marviken in the same post (basically most of the post is about Ågesta but the last half of the last sentence is talking about Marviken). As far as I understood it at the time of writing the post, Marviken/R4 was the plant that was intended to produce weaponized plutonium at a large scale (while also being a power plant). Unlike Ågesta/R3, which was run for commercial heat production for about a decade, Marviken/R4 was never loaded and started, and they did those tests you refer to on it instead. I didn't know Ågesta actually produced plutonium. Thanks for the links and the info! edit: that article in Ny Teknik is particularly interesting, I knew FOA was close to having a nuke ready but not how close (for non-Swedish readers, FOA = Försvarets Forskningsanstalt, the Defense Research Agency, and apparently all the bomb components were ready, all that was needed was sufficient amounts of plutonium and political approval). I really should go pick up Agrell's book on the subject at the library one of these days. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 23:57 on May 2, 2014 |
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thesurlyspringKAA posted:So these get about 15 minutes of on-station time before they bingo? Well you have the CFTs with ~9000 pounds of gas (1400ish gallons), so it's not quite that short  more ridiculous loadout fun 
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I would like to know more.
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wkarma posted:Well you have the CFTs with ~9000 pounds of gas (1400ish gallons), so it's not quite that short "For all your anti-terrorist needs...whether they're hiding in a mud hut, small house, shallow hole in the ground, lightly-to-moderately fortified structure, sitting *right* next to a SAM radar, or chilling on an oil baron's destroyer-sized yacht, we've got the means to deliver the 'bang' to send 'em to Allah."
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priznat posted:I would like to know more. http://www.rongallops.com/index2.html
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I can't wait until someone combines that with this:
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movax posted:Huh, I figured the Raptors would just speed up to the intercept in electronic silence (vectored in via AWACS) and then annoy/dart around Bears for awhile before heading back in.
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evil_bunnY posted:The AESA is good enough to transceive data with, so I'm assuming they just turn on the goatse as soon as they're in range. There will come a day when goatse becomes an offical acronym for something serious.
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Thief posted:I can't wait until someone combines that with this: This is my porn watching setup
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priznat posted:This is my porn watching setup An escort would have been cheaper.
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Shooting Blanks posted:An escort would have been cheaper. Yeah but you never know what you'll end up with for force feedback
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Snowdens Secret posted:Yeah but you never know what you'll end up with for force feedback Scabies, it's always scabies.
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A U-2 overflying LA caused the flight pathing system to go crazy, forcing the FAA to put a hold on all traffic managed by the FAA LA Control Center. quote:A Relic from the Cold War appears to have triggered a software glitch at a major air traffic control center in California Wednesday that led to delays and cancellations of hundreds of flights across the country, sources familiar with the incident told NBC News. Party Plane Jones fucked around with this message at 20:08 on May 3, 2014 |
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Party Plane Jones posted:A U-2 overflying LA caused the flight pathing system to go crazy, forcing the FAA to put a hold on all traffic managed by the FAA LA Control Center. If this was because they used 16bit numbers for altitude I'll laugh so hard.
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Godammit U-2, you almost ruined my trip this weekend 
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apseudonym posted:If this was because they used 16bit numbers for altitude I'll laugh so hard. This can't be the first time LA Center has had to handle a U-2 at altitude, given its airspace's proximity to Beale (not to mention all the shenanigans that take place at Edwards/Dryden and Plant 42).
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iyaayas01 posted:This can't be the first time LA Center has had to handle a U-2 at altitude, given its airspace's proximity to Beale (not to mention all the shenanigans that take place at Edwards/Dryden and Plant 42). Yeah I'm not buying that story either. NASA also has space/weather recce and testbed platforms that operate at those altitudes out of that same general area and facilities, and there's all kinds of commercial and recreational rocketry and balloonery(?) that goes on out there.  Someone in the ATC hosed up or freaked out or tried to plug an approach radar into a toaster or something.
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I am currently in talks with my daughter in regards to having a bombers themed 3rd birthday. She's torn. Princess Sophia is also popular with her, so I am seeing if we can combine the two. I've already informed her that bombers deliver presents to good little girls on their birthdays. And she loves her B-2 that the 
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Burning Beard posted:I was at the bomb control panel but we switched after a few minutes so she could nuke select Soviet SIOP targets: Father of the Year.
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Doctor Grape Ape posted:Father of the Year.
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It's super cool to be actively involved with your kids, but there's something really odd to me about saying bombers bring candy/toys. 
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mlmp08 posted:It's super cool to be actively involved with your kids, but there's something really odd to me about saying bombers bring candy/toys. While your post is noted, bombers are still way better than loving Caillou. Watch Caillou for a few episodes and let me know if B-52s with nukes are not a better alternative. Hint: They are. Burning Beard fucked around with this message at 03:35 on May 4, 2014 |
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 How about something that isn't as creepy, like pictures of planes:   
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A friend recently went to a military barracks open day here in Australia and took some photos of the Eurocopter Tiger. I barely remembered that Australia had any of the things! As someone with only an interested layman's knowledge of military aviation, I intuitively feel that it's a lame duck. It seems small, fat and stubby, with no real elegance or 'menace' to speak of. It just doesn't look right. I wouldn't be surprised it it's an expensive under-performer. This particular Australian version also didn't appear to have the "Osiris" sensor package, or even any countermeasures dispensers for that matter (!). Does anyone have a more informed have an opinion about the Tiger? Am I way off with this gut-level impression?
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The Proc posted:Here's a detailed government report on the aftermath: http://www.ornl.gov/info/reports/1961/3445600598663.pdf I know this is from a hundred pages ago but JESUS CHRIST this experiment is awesomely terrible. There is no control group in this extremely hazardous "blast an area with hard radiation and see what happens to the plants" experiment. At the end they have the closest you'll get to an "OOPS!" in a published paper in the conclusions where they note that "conservation of some undisturbed areas in the immediate vicinity of the reactor is desired for sampling purposes," or in other words "we're idiots and we forgot to take control samples, please don't gently caress up the experiment like we did." I have a coworker who worked at Oak Ridge for decades, I'll have to ask him if they ever carried out this same experiment. Also, their conclusion that they didn't generate any useful data is pretty hilarious in light of the blatantly irresponsible methodology. They could have done this with some potted plants and a lab sized radio emitter instead of a loving 10Mw reactor designed for propulsion research. Also the goal: measure the effect of radiation dose on soil. Coupled with the comment: we probably should have measured the soil dose instead of the air dose. What a bunch of apes. Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 13:08 on May 4, 2014 |
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Crescendo posted:A friend recently went to a military barracks open day here in Australia and took some photos of the Eurocopter Tiger. I barely remembered that Australia had any of the things! I only remember it from Goldeneye, honestly.
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