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mafoose
Oct 30, 2006

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Any idea what kind of starters Lamborghini's use? They sound really fast, and I love the fact that they spin for a second or 2 before the engine fires up.

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Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010

kastein posted:

Ever see a shotgun started engine?

They're cool in their own way, but there's something about the ability to reliably heave a huge hunk of iron to life right down to temperatures where it's effectively seized where an electric starter is concerned that really gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside. Mainly due to all the times I've been out tempting hypothermia trying to get frozen engines to start.

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010
I just spent the last hour youtubing inertia start engines. Now I know where they got the sound effect for the Millennium Falcon's failing hyperdrive :haw:

Also found an INCREDIBLE MATCHUP (imo) thanks to Pandora

http://youtubedoubler.com/ckNW

-Zydeco-
Nov 12, 2007


dissss posted:

Or one of these (I bet your neighbours would love it)

Found a Coffman start, or something like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJpZfp0Ss2U

I love that the key is a hammer.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


-Zydeco- posted:

Found a Coffman start, or something like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJpZfp0Ss2U

I love that the key is a hammer.

That thing is just beautiful!

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
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Yeah, I was going to post that as soon as shotgun starters were mentioned. It's a fantastic little machine.

E: Have some hot bulb engine starting instead (turning that big old flywheel by hand!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNOxoatjAJM&t=20s

KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 10:46 on May 3, 2014

Poisonlizard
Apr 1, 2007

DrPain posted:

poo poo goddamnit gently caress I meant GM factory rebuild. I think I was pondering swapping the 350 into my ranger (a terrible idea) and that's how I ended up posting Ford factory.


It's a two piece mount, the dog bone part bolts into the rad support part. You can buy them separately, but I always replace them together.

Just gonna leave this here:
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=22999

Should (In theory) bolt right into a 4 cylinder Ranger.

DrPain
Apr 29, 2004

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Poisonlizard posted:

Just gonna leave this here:
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=22999

Should (In theory) bolt right into a 4 cylinder Ranger.

For $8 loving grand it had better go in without a fight!!!! Does that include PCM and wiring harness?

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

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Snowdens Secret posted:

The FJ40 LandCruisers had a hand crank up to something like '82. You used the arm for the bottle jack to crank it. Of course the old F/2F engines had compression (and horsepower) that was agricultural at best.

I still remember hand-starting my buddy's 66 VW Bus back in high school. That thing was hilarious.

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

Poisonlizard posted:

Just gonna leave this here:
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=22999

Should (In theory) bolt right into a 4 cylinder Ranger.

He'd be better served by buying a crate LS3 for ~$5k and using the extra $3k on an adaptor kit to install it in the ranger. :colbert:

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Poisonlizard posted:

Just gonna leave this here:
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=22999

Should (In theory) bolt right into a 4 cylinder Ranger.

Might not bolt into a pre-'02 Ranger, though. Up until then, the 2.3/2.5L Rangers were based on the old Pinto / Lima SOHC engine. After that (or was it during 2001?) they went back down to 2.3L, but by switching over to the Mazda-based MZR which that Ecoboost is derived from.

The guy swapping one into a Foxbody used a MZR Ranger oil pan (plus a balance shaft delete) to fit it.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

HotCanadianChick posted:

He'd be better served by buying a crate LS3 for ~$5k and using the extra $3k on an adaptor kit to install it in the ranger. :colbert:

We all know the only answer is a Coyote motor with a supercharger. :colbert:

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

KozmoNaut posted:

Yeah, I was going to post that as soon as shotgun starters were mentioned. It's a fantastic little machine.

E: Have some hot bulb engine starting instead (turning that big old flywheel by hand!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNOxoatjAJM&t=20s

One of dad's friends was a huge Lanz Bulldog collector. The story about the friend losing control of a Lanz on a major road in South Australia, because the engine would not stop and he became a passenger was hilarious

Slung Blade
Jul 11, 2002

IN STEEL WE TRUST

KozmoNaut posted:

Yeah, I was going to post that as soon as shotgun starters were mentioned. It's a fantastic little machine.

E: Have some hot bulb engine starting instead (turning that big old flywheel by hand!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNOxoatjAJM&t=20s

Hey, that was shot at Pioneer Acres two years ago. I was working in the blacksmith shop that he rolls past at 5:16. That little green one that was sitting next to it is great as well, that one doesn't actually have a reverse gear and they intentionally run the motor backwards to go in reverse, it's awesome as hell.

That weekend in August is always one of my favourite times of the year.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

IOwnCalculus posted:

Might not bolt into a pre-'02 Ranger, though. Up until then, the 2.3/2.5L Rangers were based on the old Pinto / Lima SOHC engine. After that (or was it during 2001?) they went back down to 2.3L, but by switching over to the Mazda-based MZR which that Ecoboost is derived from.

The guy swapping one into a Foxbody used a MZR Ranger oil pan (plus a balance shaft delete) to fit it.

I've been thinking a lot about Rangers lately. I can't figure out if the old 2.3 is a Pinto or a Lima bolt pattern, but I'm leaning towards Lima, which will at least make it bellhousing compatible with an MZR/Duratec. I believe there was also a 2.5L Duratec Ranger that was basically a stroked 2.3.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Nah, the 2.5L is a stroked Lima, not a MZR. It's what came in the Ranger from 1998 until when they switched to the MZR.

It's also still loving gutless.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
Put in a 1L ecoboost and build a little frunk storage tray around it.

BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

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IOwnCalculus posted:

Nah, the 2.5L is a stroked Lima, not a MZR. It's what came in the Ranger from 1998 until when they switched to the MZR.

It's also still loving gutless.

So is the Vulcan they stuffed in em for years.

Poisonlizard
Apr 1, 2007

ratbert90 posted:

We all know the only answer is a Coyote motor with a supercharger. :colbert:

Ooooh, better idea.
And no, the ecm and harness are extra on the ecoboost.

IOwnCalculus posted:

The guy swapping one into a Foxbody used a MZR Ranger oil pan (plus a balance shaft delete) to fit it.
Yea that's what gave me the idea.

bandman
Mar 17, 2008

BrokenKnucklez posted:

So is the Vulcan they stuffed in em for years.

That 3.0 was such a piece of poo poo. All the power of a 4-cylinder with the fuel mileage of a V8. I interned at an engineering company that had an 01 Ranger 4x4 regular cab as a field truck. We hauled seismic refraction equipment out in the field to see how deep and how compact the soils were and how far down the bedrock was before a piece of land was developed, so we were off-road every day in that truck. loving gutless, but we never did get it stuck. The company was good enough to keep good off-road tires on it (BFG All-Terrains) so it actually had some traction.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

Poisonlizard posted:

Ooooh, better idea.
And no, the ecm and harness are extra on the ecoboost.

I don't think there's even an ECU option available for the 2.0L or 3.5L Ecoboost crate motors yet. It's a shame. The Coyote stand alone ECU and harness are pretty expensive too, for something that amounts to the stock part with the immobilizer ripped out (or maybe that's why it's so expensive).

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





8ender posted:

Put in a 1L ecoboost and build a little frunk storage tray around it.

I like this idea a lot.

Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010

Seat Safety Switch posted:

I don't think there's even an ECU option available for the 2.0L or 3.5L Ecoboost crate motors yet.

Now I'm just waiting for some hick to put a carb and a distributor on one.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Tommychu posted:

Now I'm just waiting for some hick to put a carb and a distributor on one.

Nah, it's got the cams in the head, that'll confuse them enough to make them back away from it.

Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010

I've seen some people do some pretty rednecked poo poo to DOHC engines (and Fazdas in particular, though Mitsu-Dodges are also frequent victims), so I'm sure it'll happen at some point. Given the price tag on an MZR right now it might take a few years but while generally stupid, hicks are also pretty fearless with the amount of R&D they'll throw out the window.

Terrible Robot
Jul 2, 2010

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Tommychu posted:

I've seen some people do some pretty rednecked poo poo to DOHC engines (and Fazdas in particular, though Mitsu-Dodges are also frequent victims), so I'm sure it'll happen at some point. Given the price tag on an MZR right now it might take a few years but while generally stupid, hicks are also pretty fearless with the amount of R&D they'll throw out the window.

Redneck engineering works on the same principles as Orc technology sometimes. It looks like it should work (to them), and miraculously somehow it does. Until it is shown to somebody that knows whats up, who gets one look at the hacked together harness and Lovecraftian suspension and says "there's no way that works at all" at which point the project usually spontaneously catches on fire.

revmoo
May 25, 2006

#basta

Terrible Robot posted:

Redneck engineering works on the same principles as Orc technology sometimes. It looks like it should work (to them), and miraculously somehow it does. Until it is shown to somebody that knows whats up, who gets one look at the hacked together harness and Lovecraftian suspension and says "there's no way that works at all" at which point the project usually spontaneously catches on fire.

It's like when a cartoon character walks off a cliff and keeps going for a bit.

DrPain
Apr 29, 2004

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It's been a little slow at the shop this week and the work we did get in was mostly boring warranty stuff and routine services. Nothing very interesting or thread worthy, but I'll give you the highlights.


The 98 Chevy Lumina from last week was diagnosed as having a bad PCM, after replacing the cam position sensor, checking the wiring from the sensor to the PCM, and still not receiving any signal from the cam position sensor from the PCM on the scan tool. Customer declined repair, and the vehicle will be retired to the salvage yard.







A 2008 Mercedes Benz S550 at 97k miles, which belongs to a lady friend of my father-in-law, came in with a couple of noisy idler pulleys.





It's got an oil leak from the oil cooler gasket, and that oil is dripping onto the belt and pulleys, making the belt chirp and fouling the idler pulleys. One idler pulley is smooth, while the other is grooved. I was able to source the grooved pulley in the aftermarket locally, but the smooth pulley would have to be delivered overnight from Phoenix. The customer needed the vehicle back that afternoon, so I had to go to the Benz dealer for the smooth pulley. The Benz dealer is even more smug than Benz drivers, and are in no big hurry to help indie shops like us, so their delivery times suck and I always have to pick up my parts there on will call. I called the dealer and gave the parts rep the vin and asked to have the smooth idler pulley on will call for me, they gave me a ridiculous price, I cut a check, and drove down there to pickup the part. I should have opened the box and double checked that the part was correct before leaving the dealership, but I'm not a smart man. Lo and behold, I get back to the shop and open the box to find this.


:negative:

That cocksucker gave me the grooved pulley. In hindsight I should have checked the part before leaving the dealership, but of course the one time I trust somebody to just do their loving job correctly it bites me in the rear end. I feel like they do this kind of poo poo on purpose to small shops as a "gently caress you" for having the audacity and gall to work on one of their vehicles without their "certification" and "expertise". :airquote:

I called the dealer parts department back and jumped down their throat for giving me the wrong loving part, cut another check for the difference in price (the right part is always more money, of course), and drove back to the dealership to get the correct part.

While I was doing all of this we performed and oil change and fixed the oil leak. With both new idlers and a new belt in hand, we replaced the noisy parts and sent the vehicle on its way. The starter battery was also tested and found bad, so we put in a new one of those, as well. This vehicle runs one small battery under the hood to power the starter, and a separate enormous battery hidden in the trunk to power all the whiz bang gizmos inside the vehicle.



I mentioned that it's at 97k miles, and it belongs to a lady friend of my father-in-law. Per the maintenance schedule from Benz, it was due a tune up (spark plugs) at 91k. I wrote an estimate to perform this service, but was not allowed to sell it because my father-in-law is weird about charging people he knows personally to do things to their vehicles. It's a constant source of strife when he will give his friends/lady friends a price on their car way way under what it should be without even talking to me about it. I don't care if this lady is trained in the ancient art of Geisha and is an acrobat in the bedroom with him, she bought a Mercedes and can pay full price for any and all services we recommend. He keeps saying that he's not that into her and wants to break off the relationship, so I really don't get why I have to eat the lost profit for some casual old lady sex, especially when I had to make two loving trips to the dealership for her parts. But I digress.







This magnificent piece of poo poo '86 GMC 3500 pickup showed up needing an out of state vehicle inspection in order to be titled in Nevada. They drove it down from Montana, and it had developed an impressive leak from the radiator on the trip. It otherwise passed the laughably easy DMV required safety inspection, and the customer claims their brother is a mechanic so they understandably did not want us to put a radiator in it.







A 96 Infinity I30 showed up for failed smog and check engine light. We retrieved codes P0440 for small evap leak and P0130 for O2 sensor malfunction bank 1, sensor 1. The evap leak was traced to the purge vent solenoid leaking through internally, which acts like a small vacuum leak and in turn sets the O2 sensor code. Everyone thinks when they get an O2 sensor code it's time to replace the O2 sensor, but this is not always the case, and this vehicle is a good example of that. We cleared the codes after replacing the purge solenoid, took it for a drive cycle, and it ran all the emission monitors, including O2 sensor monitors without setting any further codes. This means that the problem is fixed and the sensors are functioning as intended.






We did an oil change on a 2003 GMC Sierra 2500 Duramax, another good customer who is a detective down at LV Metro. I was looking at his bill from the last oil change, and I noticed that I had only charged him for 1 gallon of oil, not the 3 that it takes, so I had to call the customer and explain that I'm back charging him for oil I under-billed him for last time, and he was cool. All our cop customers are cool. Really good people to work for, cops, they have lots of gear and want to maintain everything.





Once we had that rack free immediately following that diesel oil change, we got around to doing a tune up on that '94 F150 we've been sitting on for a few days. It now runs on all 8 cylinders, and we are now investigating some fuel leaks and gauge cluster problems.





Newguy's dad brought his 2010 Chrysler 300 in for an oil change and check engine light. We used this vehicle as a good teaching tool to let newguy attempt a little diagnosis. The code he retrieved was P0305, misfire cyl #5, and the injector on #5 ohm'd differently than the rest of the injectors, so that was enough for him to condemn the injector. Newguy replaced it under supervision, did an oil change, took it for a test drive, and got the same code P0305 on the test drive. We suspected it's leaking compression, and showed newguy how to do a compression and leakdown test. Sure enough, cyl #5 is low on compression and bleeds compression off slowly. It's gotta be some kind of problem with the valve, could be a little burnt, could be a piece of sludge stuck to it, broken valve spring, something along those lines. I did not charge his dad any labor, and gave him the parts at a steep discount, since we used the vehicle to teach his kid a thing or two about diagnosis.








Some baseball batting cages moved into the space once occupied by the Pawn Stars toybox, and this 2013 Dodge Charger belongs to the Owner's son. We performed an oil change on it at a good discount, and gave him an estimate on front brakes, as the factory pads are at about 20% remaining. He'll be able to get through another oil change or two with 20% remaining, but we just wanted to make him aware of how much that will cost in the future, in an attempt to impress him with our service and honesty.







Speaking of brakes, we did a front brake job with a clean & adjust on the rear for this 2005 Subaru Forester. The customer had been to see us years and years ago at the shop's old location, and was recommended to us by a neighbor, not realizing it's the same shop in a new location. That was a nice touch of serendipity, and the old salt mechanics got to reminisce of days gone by with the customer while they waited on their brake job.





A 98 Chevy Venture rolled in, also for failed smog. The customer has a check engine light on, and had the code scanned at a nameless parts store. The original code specifically is unknown, but it had to be some manner of EGR code, as the parts store sold him a new EGR valve to DIY install, then cleared the code. The customer installed it, and of course that did not fix their problem. By the time it was brought to our shop it had a code set for P1404, EGR stuck open. We found the new EGR valve installed backwards, and the exhaust gas pressure was holding the the valve open, which fooled the computer into thinking it was stuck open full of carbon. We installed the customers part correctly, put a drive cycle on it, and got it passed smog.

This vehicle was also recently rear ended and totaled, but the customer bought it back from the insurance company. I'm not quite sure why, maybe their kid lost their virginity in it or something, but holy poo poo I would have let them keep this piece.







A rather boring week, all told. I have been talking to a man with some manner of F550 who seems to think he needs a new oil cooler, which is a cab off job, so if that materializes into a big job I would be very happy. It seems like the shop slows down when we don't have some ridiculous big job taking up half the shop floor, like those engines, or that International flywheel, but I can't for the life of me figure out why.


:siren:BONUS PICS:siren:

It was also my father-in-law's birthday yesterday, so we had a small family celebration with some primo steaks I got from a nearby butcher.

3/4" cut, bone in, 31 days dry aged, prime ribeyes, seasoned with salt and pepper, set out at room temperature for however long it took me to drink a few beers and bullshit with her dad, grilled at 600 degrees for 90 seconds per side, with quarter turns at 45 seconds.







They were so loving good. Happy birthday you old fucker. :toot:

DrPain fucked around with this message at 20:02 on May 8, 2014

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011
How do you like interstate batteries?

DrPain
Apr 29, 2004

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the spyder posted:

How do you like interstate batteries?

Great batteries, great warranty. A little spendy for some, but worth it to me for the 5 year guarantee (2 years free replacement, 3 years prorated discount). I have a rack of them at the shop which I sell on consignment, but if the customer or the car isn't worth an Interstate, I'll order a house brand battery from the parts store.

Astonishing Wang
Nov 3, 2004

DrPain posted:

I had to call the customer and explain that I'm back charging him for oil I under-billed him for last time, and he was cool.

This seems hosed up to me, especially since he's clearly a repeat customer. I think if I had a shop I would just eat little errors like this. But I don't own a shop, and I'm sure things are a lot different from your side.

BoostCreep
May 3, 2004

Might I ask where you keep your forced induction accessories?
Grimey Drawer

Astonishing Wang posted:

This seems hosed up to me, especially since he's clearly a repeat customer. I think if I had a shop I would just eat little errors like this. But I don't own a shop, and I'm sure things are a lot different from your side.

I was thinking the same thing. If a shop decided way later to charge me for a mistake they made previously I'd give them hell and probably never go back.

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Apr 29, 2004

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Astonishing Wang posted:

This seems hosed up to me, especially since he's clearly a repeat customer. I think if I had a shop I would just eat little errors like this. But I don't own a shop, and I'm sure things are a lot different from your side.

Fair is fair, and it goes both ways. I showed him the old invoice from history and it clearly said 1 gallon, so he had no problem paying.

If I ever overcharged somebody by accident and caught it in the future I'd refund it to them on their next bill, too.

mafoose
Oct 30, 2006

volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and vulvas and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dongs and volvos and dons and volvos and dogs and volvos and cats and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs
Steak looks so good!

On the 300, does it have cylinder deactivation? Could the solenoid be bad?

The Midniter
Jul 9, 2001

Go post those steak pictures in the steak thread in Goons with Spoons. Seriously.

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Apr 29, 2004

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mafoose posted:

Steak looks so good!

On the 300, does it have cylinder deactivation? Could the solenoid be bad?

The hemi 5.7L V8 has cylinder deactivation, but this model runs the 3.5L V6, and I do not think it does.

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011

DrPain posted:

Great batteries, great warranty. A little spendy for some, but worth it to me for the 5 year guarantee (2 years free replacement, 3 years prorated discount). I have a rack of them at the shop which I sell on consignment, but if the customer or the car isn't worth an Interstate, I'll order a house brand battery from the parts store.

My neighbor is the purchasing manager for Johnson Controls who manufactures Interstate/ Costco/ and some house brand here local to me. They used to make Optima's here, but that's now been moved to Mexico. I've only had two of them and both went bad within the first two years. I'm not sure what to think of them at this point, but at least with my neighbor it's been incredibly easy to warranty them, haha.

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Apr 29, 2004

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the spyder posted:

My neighbor is the purchasing manager for Johnson Controls who manufactures Interstate/ Costco/ and some house brand here local to me. They used to make Optima's here, but that's now been moved to Mexico. I've only had two of them and both went bad within the first two years. I'm not sure what to think of them at this point, but at least with my neighbor it's been incredibly easy to warranty them, haha.

Yeah, JC manufactures the parts store house brand, too. Interstate's warranty is rock solid and no questions asked. If I turn in a battery to them for warranty they give me the warranty without question. None of that "oh well we need to see a failed battery test report" bullshit like some other brands of battery I've tried, when my battery tester doesn't even print a report.

The Midniter posted:

Go post those steak pictures in the steak thread in Goons with Spoons. Seriously.

It is done.

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May 20, 2009

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DrPain posted:

The hemi 5.7L V8 has cylinder deactivation, but this model runs the 3.5L V6, and I do not think it does.

I don't think it would matter either way; all that system does is shut off oil pressure to collapse the lifter on the shutoff cylinders (and deactivate the corresponding injectors), so the valve stays closed under spring pressure. If it's leaking, there's something mechanically wrong.

I did have to facepalm at a greybeard in the Hybrid Propulsion class I just took, who claimed that the new Hemi is A Bad Engine no matter what because they put cylinder deactivation on it. Nevermind that's probably one of the main reasons they're still able to use the engine in half the cars they do.

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