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TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
Mexico FLOODED with Canadians! It's verifiable fact, because some people I know told me that some people told them about some Canadians in Mexico!

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muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


zeroprime posted:

"many doctors aren't taking ACA" :psyduck:

I couldn't even continue past that. The Affordable Care Act is not an insurance plan.

Pages and pages ago someone posted a sign from some crazy plastic surgeon who claimed he wasn't taking "Obamacare."

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
Unless you're paying the tax penalty for having a noncompliant plan, your insurance plan is Obamacare.

sweart gliwere
Jul 5, 2005

better to die an evil wizard,
than to live as a grand one.
Pillbug

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

Unless you're paying the tax penalty for having a noncompliant plan, your insurance plan is Obamacare.

Mine isn't. My governor's a shithead regarding Medicaid, and the PPACA website never managed to verify my identity. Signed up before the end of October and my case was put into limbo, I'm thinking it's due to Experian since that company also failed to do my credit score, but don't care enough to sort it out right now. I'm coasting on a temporarily-renewed 2013 plan which will probably be 2.5 times as pricey in 2015, according to a BCBSNC notice before the federal exemption.

I get that it's still "Obamacare" for tax purposes, but it's definitely missing a thing or two with regard to comprehensiveness and total lack of subsidy.

Mike the TV
Jan 14, 2008

Ninety-nine ninety-nine ninety-nine

Pillbug

sweart gliwere posted:

Mine isn't. My governor's a shithead regarding Medicaid, and the PPACA website never managed to verify my identity. Signed up before the end of October and my case was put into limbo, I'm thinking it's due to Experian since that company also failed to do my credit score, but don't care enough to sort it out right now. I'm coasting on a temporarily-renewed 2013 plan which will probably be 2.5 times as pricey in 2015, according to a BCBSNC notice before the federal exemption.

I get that it's still "Obamacare" for tax purposes, but it's definitely missing a thing or two with regard to comprehensiveness and total lack of subsidy.

I was having trouble in NC as well. The website got fixed and I was able to use it to cover my wife... about a week before the deadline.

Al Harrington
May 1, 2005

I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took an arrow in the eye
Woke up to this loving gem

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
That picture isn't even Ambassador Stevens. The official report (but good luck expecting these people to believe it) is that he showed up at the hospital alive, with no external injuries, he was killed by smoke inhalation. That does not look like someone with no external injuries.

Al Harrington
May 1, 2005

I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took an arrow in the eye
can't say I'm surprised they would make something up whole cloth

TGLT
Aug 14, 2009

Al Harrington posted:

Woke up to this loving gem



http://rogerhollander.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/bagram-a-living-hell/

Here's a website from 2009 sourcing it to Bagram. I can't tell if it's actually from there, but it's certainly older than the Benghazi attacks.

Fun fact: It was a bit of a pain in the rear end to properly image search because it has a watermark that seems to only show up in fake Benghazi versions of it.

edit: Hell, here it is on a 2010 Prison Planet forum post. Either people have magic time cameras or it's bullshit.
2nd edit: 2005 article that says it's from Argentina? Oldest reference I can find.

TGLT fucked around with this message at 16:56 on May 4, 2014

Amused to Death
Aug 10, 2009

google "The Night Witches", and prepare for :stare:
The best part about it all is the photo that goes around actually from Benghazi of scary Muslims attacking Stevens is in fact the scary Muslims trying to drag him to the loving hospital.

Amused to Death fucked around with this message at 17:07 on May 4, 2014

Badera
Jan 30, 2012

Student Brian Boyko has lost faith in America.

Discendo Vox posted:

Guys, a thing about the legal system is that individual low level outcomes like this one don't create large scale categorical precedent, and you shouldn't treat them like they do- it's the equivalent of the Republican push to stop "voter fraud". Wealthy people are not a protected class, and if the facts are indeed as the freaking DAILY MAIL says they are, there's a good chance it's a violation of the terms of probation and the kid is going to jail.

Yes, the legal system in no way blatantly favors the wealthy.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011


This is the best because even if he were correct that Sterling expressed a private opinion and is being wronged here...this guy tweets his own opinion, giving his boss free rein to fire him for his own, very public, speech :laffo:

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Badera posted:

Yes, the legal system in no way blatantly favors the wealthy.

I responded that way because "protected category" or "class" is a pair of words with significant, fairly specific legal meaning in the US. To the extent that the wealthy have an advantage in the US legal system, it's due to a complex set of factors, not because of the 1988 Supreme Court case Richguy v. Thompson in which wealthy people gained special status under the CRA. Reducing the inequities of the US legal system into broad, categorical statements prevents us from understanding the actual ways by which unequal access and outcomes occur- plus the post that made this assertion was using a really bad source to make that claim.

Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 19:14 on May 4, 2014

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

zeroprime posted:

"many doctors aren't taking ACA" :psyduck:

I couldn't even continue past that. The Affordable Care Act is not an insurance plan.

Well, yes and no. It's true there's no plan called "Obamacare," but some new plans have come into being since the ACA and not everyone accepts them. We had this problem- we signed up for a new plan and went to a doctor with it, and they wouldn't take it. The receptionist even said "we don't take that Obamacare insurance." Eventually, we retroactively got it paid for, but a lot of hospitals around here still are fighting to refuse it.

LeJackal
Apr 5, 2011

VitalSigns posted:

This is the best because even if he were correct that Sterling expressed a private opinion and is being wronged here...this guy tweets his own opinion, giving his boss free rein to fire him for his own, very public, speech :laffo:

Nobody seems to grasp that the protection is limited to actions by the government.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe
Has there ever been a poll asking people "does the first amendment protect people from being fired for expressing their opinion?"

Centripetal Horse
Nov 22, 2009

Fuck money, get GBS

This could have bought you a half a tank of gas, lmfao -
Love, gromdul

SedanChair posted:

Has there ever been a poll asking people "does the first amendment protect people from being fired for expressing their opinion?"

Probably dozens, but it doesn't matter. Polls are only accurate when they say what you already believe. Otherwise, they are biased, or the people who answered are idiots.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
I propose the 28th Amendment: Freedom from consequences of free speech.

Crain
Jun 27, 2007

I had a beer once with Stephen Miller and now I like him.

I also tried to ban someone from a Discord for pointing out what an unrelenting shithead I am! I'm even dumb enough to think it worked!

Phone posted:

I propose the 28th Amendment: Freedom from consequences of free speech.

Clearly this would only reveal that liberals are actually the only racists there are (also black people) since they would be free to show their true colors. Thus it will never be passed. :smuggo:

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun
"You have a right to freedom of speech, but as a corollary I have a right to criticize you for your free speech. And if you sign a contract that has a clause that says that if you cause harm to the NBA and your speech in facts causes harm tot he NBA, then guess what, you violated a contract you signed!"

The folks crowing about how Sterling and Bundy are having their rights violated also probably think that the professor at FAU who had in some exercise his students stomp on the name 'Jesus' should be fired, actually.

Hormples
May 3, 2002

ARRGHH!!
MY BONES!!


My feed is usually devoid of goofballs, but today, this happened:



Who has the hate-on for psychiatric drugs, again? I barely know the first guy and I don't know the guy that replied, but I feel like I should troll this Barry Cade guy somehow.

Medium Chungus
Feb 19, 2012

S-U-P-E-R posted:

My feed is usually devoid of goofballs, but today, this happened:



Who has the hate-on for psychiatric drugs, again? I barely know the first guy and I don't know the guy that replied, but I feel like I should troll this Barry Cade guy somehow.

So apparently Mark Key in favor of a massive federally-ran (you know, since local municipalities are just jumping at the chance to expand their liability) military presence in American schools, and Barry Cade's answer to stop this is to remove badly needed medication from everyone that relies on it because of the instances of these things happening. Forget that these same medications are definately helping a lot more people than they are causing to commit these acts.

You know what would be a far better use of a huge military occupational presence and "removal" of a private thing? Using that presence to remove the weapons from people so this doesn't happen in the first place, but you know 2A so can't have that ever.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
I actually think it might be a really good idea to have guaranteed jobs for returning veterans with a focus on transitioning away from a combat mentality. Working with kids might not be for everyone, but along with jobs taking care of animals, working with senior citizens or anything else that puts them in a nurturing environment would be a great idea.

Medium Chungus
Feb 19, 2012

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I actually think it might be a really good idea to have guaranteed jobs for returning veterans with a focus on transitioning away from a combat mentality. Working with kids might not be for everyone, but along with jobs taking care of animals, working with senior citizens or anything else that puts them in a nurturing environment would be a great idea.

I'm going to point out here that the job is literally "Here is a rifle, shoot at bad guys." I do agree that having guaranteed jobs would be great, but as someone that has done this transition myself, the problem isn't so much that the veterans are unqualified, it's more that the private sector, in general, does not like to hire veterans. Solve that and you have taken care of a lot of major issues.

E-Tank
Aug 4, 2011

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I actually think it might be a really good idea to have guaranteed jobs for returning veterans with a focus on transitioning away from a combat mentality. Working with kids might not be for everyone, but along with jobs taking care of animals, working with senior citizens or anything else that puts them in a nurturing environment would be a great idea.

So you think it's a good idea for veterans, possibly suffering from PTSD and having flashbacks to having to fight against people whom use children sometimes would be best suited to being given a gun and sitting in a school somewhere?

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I actually think it might be a really good idea to have guaranteed jobs for returning veterans with a focus on transitioning away from a combat mentality.

What returning veterans need is education and a job, not pulling guard duty at the preschool.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

E-Tank posted:

So you think it's a good idea for veterans, possibly suffering from PTSD and having flashbacks to having to fight against people whom use children sometimes would be best suited to being given a gun and sitting in a school somewhere?

For god's sake, no, don't give them a gun. Have them help preschoolers do papercrafts or something.

Mornacale
Dec 19, 2007

n=y where
y=hope and n=folly,
prospects=lies, win=lose,

self=Pirates

S-U-P-E-R posted:

Who has the hate-on for psychiatric drugs, again? I barely know the first guy and I don't know the guy that replied, but I feel like I should troll this Barry Cade guy somehow.

It's frightening to consider having mental illness--the mind is more personal than the physical body. Perhaps more significantly, it's a major challenge to the worldview of people with a strong attachment to the ideas of free will or personal responsibility: if a person with depression can't control their mood or thoughts, a person with schizophrenia can't control their senses, a person with ADHD can't control their attention, then maybe none of us are quite so in control as we pretend. But since mental illness is largely subjective and self-reported, and our understanding of it has undergone huge revolutions in the last century or two, it's easy for people to simply pretend it doesn't exist or that your own common-sense cure is just as valid as psychiatry.

It's like alternative medicine: you've got your anti-science right-wingers who think everyone can just choose to be cured, your hippies who want an excuse to smoke weed, Scientologists recruiting for their cult, and who knows who else.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

S-U-P-E-R posted:

My feed is usually devoid of goofballs, but today, this happened:



This would be a government jobs program, which would never work

borkencode
Nov 10, 2004

gradenko_2000 posted:

This would be a government jobs program, which would never work

Since I'm a huge nerd, I ran some numbers...

There's 132,000 K-12 schools in the US, about 99,000 of those are public schools.
We'll take the average school year to be 180 days, and the average school day to be 7 hours.
At the federal minimum wage of $7.25 each veteran would earn $9135 per year. That's below the poverty level (good thing they would have summers off to work a second job, right?)
Putting 3 veterans in each school at that wage would cost $3.6 billion per year for all schools, or $2.7 billion for just public schools.

Ratmtattat
Mar 10, 2004
the hairdryer

borkencode posted:

Since I'm a huge nerd, I ran some numbers...

There's 132,000 K-12 schools in the US, about 99,000 of those are public schools.
We'll take the average school year to be 180 days, and the average school day to be 7 hours.
At the federal minimum wage of $7.25 each veteran would earn $9135 per year. That's below the poverty level (good thing they would have summers off to work a second job, right?)
Putting 3 veterans in each school at that wage would cost $3.6 billion per year for all schools, or $2.7 billion for just public schools.

A goon ran the numbers a while back and found that it would be cheaper (like by half) to supply all school age children with healthcare than it would be to have an armed guard at every single school. I'll try to see if I can find the numbers.

sweart gliwere
Jul 5, 2005

better to die an evil wizard,
than to live as a grand one.
Pillbug
The only serious danger I remember from highschool was a dumb student who arrived drunk and started a fight with our school's only cop. He went for the cop's gun, and was fortunately wrestled into submission.

Put four vets in every school with combat rifles? One's gonna take a fire extinguisher to the back of the head in order to jump-start the next shooting. Mark Key sure is on the ball with regard to soldiers fondly recalling "the possibility of killing children" as their favorite part of service, of course they want to risk doing it again when they come home.

Polybius91
Jun 4, 2012

Cobrastan is not a real country.

quote:

Okay... you know what my precocious little smurf?Time and again we go over this. Socialized medicine has been proven, again time and again, to be inferior. YES, our medicine has problems, I don't deny it. But letting government stick their fat thumb in another pie just leads to one thing: them taking the whole damned bakery.
From a post on a forum. Where the hell are people getting this idea from? It's literally the exact opposite of reality.

Kellsterik
Mar 30, 2012
Because the USSR collapsed, therefore Communism Lost. Another lefty loon talking point swatted down with a folksy pie-based metaphor!

thuly
Jun 19, 2005

Transcending history, and the world, a tale of MS Paint and animes, endlessly retold.

My Crazy Grandpa posted:

Time is like a river. You cannot touch the water twice, because the flow that has passed will never pass again.

Written by a USMC Vet. (I can't argue with any of it. Passing it along as it was received.)

He wrote:

The American Dream ended (on November 6th, 2012) in Ohio. The second term of Barack Obama will be the final nail in the coffin for the legacy of the white Christian males who discovered, explored, pioneered, settled and developed the greatest Republic in the history of mankind.

A coalition of Blacks, Latinos, Feminists, Gays, Government Workers, Union Members, Environmental Extremists, The Media, Hollywood, uninformed young people, the "forever needy," the chronically unemployed, illegal aliens and other "fellow travelers" have ended Norman Rockwell's America.

The Cocker Spaniel is off the front porch... The Pit Bull is in the back yard. The American Constitution has been replaced with Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" and Chicago shyster, David Axelrod, along with international Socialist George Soros will be pulling the strings on their beige puppet to bring us Act 2 of the New World Order.

Our side ran two candidates who couldn't even win their own home states, and Chris Christie helped Obama over the top with a glowing "post Sandy" tribute that elevated the "Commander-in-Chief" to Mother Teresa status. (Aside: with the way the polls were run, he didn't need any help!)

People like me are completely politically irrelevant, and I will never again comment on or concern myself with the aforementioned coalition which has surrendered our culture, our heritage and our traditions without a shot being fired.

You will never again out-vote these people. It will take individual acts of defiance and massive displays of civil disobedience to get back the rights we have allowed them to take away. It will take Zealots, not moderates & shy not reach-across-the-aisle RINOs to right this ship and restore our beloved country to its former status.

Those who come after us will have to risk their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor to bring back the Republic that this generation has timidly frittered away due to "white guilt" and political correctness... An American Veteran......... Semper-Fi

Got the guts to pass it on?

quote:

People like me are completely politically irrelevant

I agree with this imaginary ARE TROOPS. A Good Email.

Edit:
Some googling brought up http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-american-dream-time-for-its.html as a possible source. Hooooly poo poo this thing is a gold mine.

thuly fucked around with this message at 17:44 on May 5, 2014

sweart gliwere
Jul 5, 2005

better to die an evil wizard,
than to live as a grand one.
Pillbug

Crazy Grandpa posted:

[bigoted talking points]
A coalition of Blacks, Latinos, Feminists, Gays, Government Workers, Union Members, Environmental Extremists, The Media, Hollywood, uninformed young people, the "forever needy," the chronically unemployed, illegal aliens and other "fellow travelers" have ended Norman Rockwell's America.
[bigoted talking points]

You really ought to show Grandpa a bit more of Norman Rockwell's America

Kellsterik
Mar 30, 2012

quote:

Time is like a river. You cannot touch the water twice, because the flow that has passed will never pass again.

I like how it opens with a Buddhist parable. :psyduck:

Buzkashi
Feb 4, 2003
College Slice

thuly posted:

I agree with this imaginary ARE TROOPS. A Good Email.

Edit:
Some googling brought up http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-american-dream-time-for-its.html as a possible source. Hooooly poo poo this thing is a gold mine.

I love that they specify a proud government employee wrote it and then lists "government employees" among those ruining America. Why do people have such a massive selective military hard-on for just another part of the government?

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
My dad's cousin, who usually posts lots of cutesy inspirational messages and silly cartoons about people getting old, just went ahead and posted this:



:stare:

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Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
What is wrong with these people?

Isn't a single bullet to the head humane and cost-effective enough for them?

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