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If Andrew Luck had fallen to the 20s I don't think any franchise QB could be upset by their team taking him.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Is it at all possible the big splash from New England is trading Brady to Houston for the number one pick? Would either side be dumb enough to make a trade like that? Not the first overall, and not for Brady. EDIT: The only player in the league I'd consider trading #1 overall for is Luck or maybe Foles. bhsman fucked around with this message at 18:27 on May 4, 2014 |
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bhsman posted:Not the first overall, and not for Brady. EDIT: The only player in the league I'd consider trading #1 overall for is Luck or maybe Foles. lmao, you'd go Foles over Rodgers? Rodgers has at least 7 good seasons left in him so I'd trade an overall #1 and a 1st rounder next year for him in a half a heartbeat.
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A Pale Horse posted:lmao, you'd go Foles over Rodgers? Rodgers has at least 7 good seasons left in him so I'd trade an overall #1 and a 1st rounder next year for him in a half a heartbeat.  I legit forgot about Rodgers. Basically any young-ish QB with potential since I don't like any of the draftable guys at 1-1 this year.
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I don't think Aaron Rodgers is going to stick around for 7 more seasons.
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I've watched alot of SEC games over the past few weeks, so barring inter-SEC games, what are some of the more entertaining college games to watch from this past year with prospects in them? I think the only non-SEC game I've watched is Oregon v Oregon state and South Carolina (clowney) v Wisconsin (Borland). Could anyone recommend some non-SEC, prospect heavy, entertaining college games?
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Detroit_Dogg posted:I don't think Aaron Rodgers is going to stick around for 7 more seasons. I guess it depends on how healthy he can stay but most high level quarterbacks can continue to be productive until they're 36-38. Aaron is only 30. Its possible he won't make it, but If I had to bet I'd bet he will make it another 7 seasons.
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I hosed NUMBERS UP, HOLD ON He's signed through 2019 which will put him at 35, I can see him retiring to a life of making music or whatever the gently caress and not ending up a broken old man like Brett Favre. Detroit_Dogg fucked around with this message at 19:09 on May 4, 2014 |
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May 4, 2014 19:05
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quote:@RapSheet 1m RIP Tre, you looked so good 
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Detroit_Dogg posted:I hosed NUMBERS UP, HOLD ON I can see his deal getting restructured in like 2016.
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Maybe I'm just a dumb homer but if you wouldn't trade the first overall (+some other poo poo I'm sure as well) for Kapernick then you're pretty stupid. To say nothing of that Cam guy, he's no Nick Foles, but he might be worth something some day.
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bhsman posted:Not the first overall, and not for Brady. EDIT: The only player in the league I'd consider trading #1 overall for is Luck or maybe Foles. There's a bunch of players I'd trade the #1 overall pick for. Cam, Megatron, AJ Green, Joe Thomas, Watt...
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Is it at all possible the big splash from New England is trading Brady to Houston for the number one pick? Would either side be dumb enough to make a trade like that? 
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tanglewood1420 posted:There's a bunch of players I'd trade the #1 overall pick for. Cam, Megatron, AJ Green, Joe Thomas, Watt... Yeah but Houston is the one with the pick, so of those the only applicable one is Cam.
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Coldforge posted:RIP Tre, you looked so good They take a long rear end time to heal too which sucks.
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I wouldn't trade the 1st overall for Kaepernick
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swickles posted:They take a long rear end time to heal too which sucks. This prompted me to look it up and now I know where to find my snuff box! 
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AAA DOLFAN posted:I wouldn't trade the 1st overall for Kaepernick agreed, Foles or Bust
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AAA DOLFAN posted:I wouldn't trade the 1st overall for Kaepernick Me either. I don't want to see him outside of the Harbaugh QB magic.
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AAA DOLFAN posted:I wouldn't trade the 1st overall for Kaepernick Me neither. I don't think he's quite as good as some people make him out to be. He was downright lovely at times last year.
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I think kaeps still very raw. he throws some crazy hard passes and runs like a gazelle but he's not good enough at just playing qb yet. I think he'll get there with harbaugh coaching him eventually but yeah he looked rough at times.
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I'd trade it for Luck or RG3 with a fixed knee, that's about it as far as QB's go. The best of the best are also up there in years so unless you have a WIN RIGHT NOW team I don't think you're trading it for Peyton Manning or Tom Brady.
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I'd trade 5th overall for Foles and feel like a bandit
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Volkerball posted:I'd trade 5th overall for Foles and feel like a bandit Like at the end of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid? Cash Monet fucked around with this message at 23:05 on May 4, 2014 |
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defiantgiant posted:I really want the Bears to scoop up Easley in the 2nd if (read: when) they miss out on Aaron Donald. I would love to get Donald, but Clinton-Dix in the first and Easley in the 2nd would be a pretty nice consolation prize. I'm not convinced Donald won't fall to 14. I am convinced that if he does fall, it will be because teams are stupid. I think he is easily the third best defensive player in this draft, after Mack and Clowney. Which teams ahead of us have DT as a serious need? I'd say Atlanta, Jacksonville, Oakland and the Giants are the teams that could definitely use one. I also think Atlanta, Jacksonville and Oakland will be picking between Watkins, Robinson, Mack and some top tier talent, so they might not go with him. With the Giants, wouldn't be surprised if they target one of the top offensive tackles if they fall to them, but I think the only way they pass Donald is if Matthews somehow falls to them. I do not want the Bears to draft Pryor or Clinton-Dix. Honestly, I'd rather see Mosley than those two, and I'd rather they just load up on the defensive line, even if it means trading back. Neither of those guys is the second coming of Jarius Byrd or Earl Thomas, and that is the only way I draft a safety in the first. Major Wright only became a serious concern for our defense when our line stopped generating pressure. Load up on the front seven and we'll be fine.
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Some people are saying Raiders aren't picking a QB at 5 so I'm assuming we're getting Bridgewater at 5.
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Nawid posted:Some people are saying Raiders aren't picking a QB at 5 so I'm assuming we're getting Bridgewater at 5. Insha'Allah
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Blitz7x posted:Insha'Allah I've already resigned myself to you guys trading up for Clowney at #2.
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Where'd you see that? I hope it hits the news, because so many Raider fans will poo poo a brick if McKenzie doesn't like JFF.
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Vic T said it in a tweet then deleted it, but Ian Rapaport picked it up. Seems pretty legit Vic knows RT @ProFootballTalk: The Raiders have reportedly ruled out drafting Manziel or Bortles with the fifth pick http://wp.me/p14QSB-9tnW
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AAA DOLFAN posted:I wouldn't trade the 1st overall for Kaepernick Mario Williams.
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AAA DOLFAN posted:I wouldn't trade the 1st overall for Kaepernick What about for Super Bowl Champion David Carr?
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Detroit_Dogg posted:I'd trade it for Luck or RG3 with a fixed knee, that's about it as far as QB's go. The best of the best are also up there in years so unless you have a WIN RIGHT NOW team I don't think you're trading it for Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. The Texans with Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers are the favourite for their division. They'd give up the 1st overall for one of them in a heartbeat.
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A Pale Horse posted:Me neither. I don't think he's quite as good as some people make him out to be. He was downright lovely at times last year. I think the fact that he played with 1 good WR and 1 TE who, despite being a physical freak, made it as difficult as possible to actually complete passes to him, in the toughest division in football, which is stacked with defensive talent. While I certainly understand people discounting him for the Harbaugh effect (and his team's defense and OL), I think he's got all the talent, and has shown remarkable ability, while answering some of the questions that made him a 2nd round prospect. He's at the bottom of the list of young quarterbacks I'd instantly trade the #1 for (Behind Luck, Cam, and healthy-RG3), but I fully believe in his tools and potential. I guess I look at it more as "Guy I'd be happy to have for the #1 pick" than a "sure fire no brainer trade" like the other three guys (or other players named).
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Boldin and Davis are a lot better cast than most QB's get, even if it isn't great. Also, the Colts secondary is absolute garbage and welp.
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On the top end sure, though I don't think they're "a lot better cast than most QB's get," I'd say they're about average if you really looked at team by team basis, but after that the skill position players drops off an absolute cliff. Know the next leading receivers in SF? FB Bruce Miller with 25, then Michael Crabtree with 19. That's, ruptured his achilles in training camp and came back for 5 whole games, ended up 4th on the team in receptions, Michael Crabtree. I don't care how good you think Davis and Boldin are (I'll debate with you about that if you want), you absolutely can't deny that they really didn't have much to work with as an offense. Especially in a division where every team is capable of taking away one receiver, at the very least. I know Luck had bad luck with injuries as well, and that Cam's receiving corps isn't even two deep, but there's a big difference in the defenses of the NFC West, and those of the NFC/AFC South.
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I would say from a raw talent standpoint and at his current slary he definitely is worth it. But, if you have to give up the first overall and then immediately start paying him $19mil a season.... well, maybe not so much.
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