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Dolash posted:Also, maybe I missed it the first time through, but where did they mention Agent Day has cupid powers? That seems like kind of a weird ability to throw into the story. It was back a little bit, while Spender was picking everyone up for tonight and he stopped to talk to Isabel's Grandpa. Specifically, Spender mentions that she "uses a tool with 'Cupid's arrow' powers." Edit for quote for new page.
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May 2, 2014 11:22
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May 2, 2014 11:26
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I didn't think Eightfold was going to go with the "You don't seem to see spirits as people" angle with this, but it's a valid point. Isabel seems mostly interested in fighting, and fighting spirits seems kind of like a big game to her. If Eightfold really is going to get buried underground forever, or die, or something like that, this is quite a dark note to end on. Then again, this doesn't seem like a conversation you'd have in the middle of a raging battle unless she thinks she's not going to get the chance to have it later (because she'll be dead).
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Dolash posted:If Eightfold really is going to get buried underground forever, or die, or something like that, this is quite a dark note to end on. Then again, this doesn't seem like a conversation you'd have in the middle of a raging battle unless she thinks she's not going to get the chance to have it later (because she'll be dead). Well, if it's any consolation, there's always the possibility that eventually, Eightfold will fully regenerate herself to the point where she doesn't need to be in a tool anymore and then she'll be able to break that bond and find Isabel again. After all, A spirit doesn't strictly need a spectral to regenerate.
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So, that's where Eightfold was going with the point about how Isabel didn't include her in her story about how they became friends. That's actually darker than what I was expecting.neogeo0823 posted:Well, if it's any consolation, there's always the possibility that eventually, Eightfold will fully regenerate herself to the point where she doesn't need to be in a tool anymore and then she'll be able to break that bond and find Isabel again. After all, A spirit doesn't strictly need a spectral to regenerate. No, but they do need spectral energy form some place or other. That usually comes from, well, spirits. And Eightfold is a weak spirit; she's the sort that gets eaten, not the kind that eats. So assuming she isn't alone underground, well, things still aren't necessarily going to end well. Assuming she does get trapped, at least. Though it does seem likely, we still need to see where this is going.
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Paranatural: A thought-provoking treatise on critical theory. Also anime ghost fights.
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Almost literally every single spirit who has had significant screen time has given some kind of lecture on morality in one form or another. I joked about this but it seems to be actually happening. Can't wait to hear Scraps and whoever Ed's spirit is give their speeches.
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I didn't really notice it while blazing through the comic at first, but now that you mention it, yeah. Especially lately? I mean, it makes sense for Spender and Grandpa to talk about the greater good since there's a teacher/student thing going on there, but then Spender and Forge get into a fight and they both stop to continue that discussion while the train they're supposed to be after gets further and further away.
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Dolash posted:I didn't really notice it while blazing through the comic at first, but now that you mention it, yeah. Especially lately? I mean, it makes sense for Spender and Grandpa to talk about the greater good since there's a teacher/student thing going on there, but then Spender and Forge get into a fight and they both stop to continue that discussion while the train they're supposed to be after gets further and further away. And I'd figure if there'd be one category of beings that'd be guaranteed to have strong opinions on human morality, actions, and attitudes, it'd be the ones that spend most of their time as invisible voyeurs. Think about that old 'what do you do when nobody's looking?' question? They're always looking. Drakyn fucked around with this message at 19:10 on May 2, 2014 |
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I don't disagree with the things Eightfold is saying, but I can't help but feel this isn't an appropriate place for this sort of break, narratively-speaking. We're in the middle of at least two important combats (which are cool and exciting!) after not really having a good fight for, well, a year or so (whenever Max "fought" the racist whale frog). I know it isn't a comic about fighting, but this is a frustrating break considering we get two pages a week, with this conversation already lasting over half a month. This, to me, says that Eightfold is going away. Zack isn't a Master Storyteller, but he has a grasp on how fiction works, and I don't think he'd normally say "y'know, I bet people really want to hear about how Isabel considers spirits a useful novelty sometimes and attempts to save her mortal friend from splattering into the wall of a train instead of her spirit which is tucked relatively safely into a solid object, right now." This is a conversation which has to take place now, because Eightfold won't be around in the near future. That, or it's just a boring conversation. I get that it's probably setting up Isabel to be angry with Max, but I just can't really bring myself to care - I think physically losing the book would have been enough of a catalyst.
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neogeo0823 posted:Well, if it's any consolation, there's always the possibility that eventually, Eightfold will fully regenerate herself to the point where she doesn't need to be in a tool anymore and then she'll be able to break that bond and find Isabel again. After all, A spirit doesn't strictly need a spectral to regenerate. I think you guys are misunderstanding Eightfold. She's so weak that she regularly regenerates and leaves the book; to reenter the book after Isabel was done CHANGING THE SUBJECT, she killed herself to release her last-legs spirit. At this point, she's not staying with Isabel because she can't leave, she's staying because a) she likes Isabel and b) the book provides her with food and protection from hungry spirits. Whitenoise Poster posted:Almost literally every single spirit who has had significant screen time has given some kind of lecture on morality in one form or another. I joked about this but it seems to be actually happening. Can't wait to hear Scraps and whoever Ed's spirit is give their speeches. I think that's more just this chapter. Next chapter is supposed to focus on the normal kids, which I'm looking forward to. Maybe Jeff will finally make a friend.  Also Starchman.  Every day without him is another day of not knowing the true joy of English classes.VV True that. Ok well I'm still looking forward to next chapter. youcallthatatwist fucked around with this message at 21:12 on May 2, 2014 |
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May 2, 2014 21:01
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youcallthatatwist posted:I think that's more just this chapter. It also happened with Doorman, Isaac's spirit, the whale frog, and maybe others I can't remember.
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If this gets animated, then it'll be convenient that all of the dramatic quotes and poo poo for the trailer are frontloaded in the first few chapters so as to avoid spoilers.
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Why would she be angry with him? I mean, she doesn't have to be a rational actor. But Max didn't do anything to shape her or her worldview, and he didn't treat Eightfold as particularly subhuman (as far as I can tell anyway). Maybe she would project her anger at herself on him? I don't know, I think it would just drive a wedge deeper into her relationship with her grandfather.
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Whitenoise Poster posted:Almost literally every single spirit who has had significant screen time has given some kind of lecture on morality in one form or another. I joked about this but it seems to be actually happening. Can't wait to hear Scraps and whoever Ed's spirit is give their speeches. I want Max's spirit to give a speech that is just hissing for the entire page with a confused Max getting progressively angrier.
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If you must be pious, boy, choose a proper priest.
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Tollymain posted:Maybe she would project her anger at herself on him? Basically this, yes. Max indirectly lead to her losing Eightfold (assuming that happens) because he's a noob-rear end scrub who couldn't save himself from falling despite having magnetic powers inside a giant tube of metal. She instinctively saved him, because he's her friend and a human instead of a book, but now she might guilt trip on that. It's a pretty human thing to do, and she's a literal child so there's that. I mean none of this might happen - Eightfold might just magically stick around, maybe Isabel will just become completely self-loathing, maybe she'll project on her grandfather like you said - but I think driving a wedge between a group is a pretty common heroic fiction trope and hardly out of the realm of possibility here.
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The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > Batman's Shameful Secret > Paranatural: Serious Talks About Morality (also spooky ghosts)
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Simsmagic posted:The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > Batman's Shameful Secret > Paranatural: Serious Talks About Morality (by spooky ghosts)
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Eightfold no! Stop this right now you silly paper spider, you're gonna... you're gonna be okay...
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Goodbye Isabel, we hardly knew ye  Joking aside shiiiiiiit
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You know, I'm not sure if Eightfold actually believes Isabel doesn't see spirits as "people", judging by one of her reasons to bring her into the spirit world... Also, please eightfold don't do it
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Welp, Eightfold is done for. Hopefully her words will swirl around in Isabel's head for a while and eventually click. I guess it was a little too much to expect her to change her whole outlook in one quick final conversation. Having to save Max rather than make one last lunge for Eightfold is probably going on the "Isabel will blame Max" pile, though.
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Unless I'm missing something, Eightfold is just falling out of a fast moving poltergeist train. Is that really enough to destroy the tool it's bound too? At worse Isabel is going to be separated from Eightfold for a long time if not indefinitely, but I think Eightfold will at least survive the fall and is just giving some last minute coaching to help Isabel out.
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Brought To You By posted:Unless I'm missing something, Eightfold is just falling out of a fast moving poltergeist train. Is that really enough to destroy the tool it's bound too? At worse Isabel is going to be separated from Eightfold for a long time if not indefinitely, but I think Eightfold will at least survive the fall and is just giving some last minute coaching to help Isabel out. The problem is the train is underground. If Eightfold's book falls out, they'd have a hell of a time finding it again. Anyone would have a hell of a time finding it. She'll essentially be trapped forever, unless wounded spirits can leave their tools before returning to health.
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Tenebrais posted:The problem is the train is underground. If Eightfold's book falls out, they'd have a hell of a time finding it again. Anyone would have a hell of a time finding it. She'll essentially be trapped forever, unless wounded spirits can leave their tools before returning to health. We've seen from grandpa's training targets that wounded spirits can leave if their tool is destroyed, but we don't know if they can willingly leave otherwise
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NOOO THE CUTEST MEMBER OF PARANATURAL IS ABOUT TO GO WHYYY
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Tenebrais posted:The problem is the train is underground. If Eightfold's book falls out, they'd have a hell of a time finding it again. Anyone would have a hell of a time finding it. She'll essentially be trapped forever, unless wounded spirits can leave their tools before returning to health. Where does it say the train is underground? Last it was shown was it going through the forest, and I don't think anyone mentioned it actually going underground.
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Leper Residue posted:Where does it say the train is underground? Last it was shown was it going through the forest, and I don't think anyone mentioned it actually going underground.  The train went underground here. Enough time has passed, though, that it could be pretty much anywhere by now.
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ProfessorProf posted:
Ah, I totally missed the ground in that panel, thanks. So yeah, I guess Eightfold is boned.
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I totally missed that strip, too.
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Dyllyn posted:NOOO THE CUTEST MEMBER OF PARANATURAL IS ABOUT TO GO WHYYY Huh? What's happening with Mr. Starchman?
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I see your sneaky switcharoo and raise you the paranatural cast page!quote:Eightfold: Ha I am smug! No wait I am sad augh Eightfold WHY
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I still got a good laugh from reading the alt-text right after reading the last panel, at least.
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Dyllyn posted:I see your sneaky switcharoo and raise you the paranatural cast page! If that cast page is to be believed, Spender is also objectively the coolest. So I guess what I'm saying is you were right.
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Countblanc posted:If that cast page is to be believed, Spender is also objectively the coolest.
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