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For post-Double Trio Crimson albums, I like the Heavy Construcktion 3-disc live set pretty well, and if you can find the "Level 5" EP, that's really good.
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Maybe this has always been true to some extent but KC after Discipline have been way better live than in the studio (in my opinion). The Absent Lovers double-disc set (covering all the 80's stuff and a couple of throwbacks) is incredible - maybe my favorite live Crimson release. The one BigFactory mentioned is really good as well. As far as the studio albums go I think both THRAK and Power to Believe have great moments but I wouldn't recommend the others. Three of a Perfect Pair's first side is good!
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King Crimson's a live band for sure. Always have been in my opinion. The Nightwatch is as good or better than any of their 70's studio albums.
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BigFactory posted:King Crimson's a live band for sure. Always have been in my opinion. The Nightwatch is as good or better than any of their 70's studio albums. http://threeofaperfectpair.com/ Come to camp with P@, TL and Ade! It's great fun.
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Jesus. People can throw around that kind of cash and here I am wondering if buying a car for a grand is going to bankrupt me. In other news, Kip Winger posted:Q: The new Winger album has a clear progressive rock influence. Do you feel like those influences are also there on the earlier Winger records? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20xl9x8BhUM whhhaaaaaaatttt E: Oh my god "wrap my soul in cellophane/dry my secrets in the rain" is an actual line in this song OH MY GOD. hexwren fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Apr 25, 2014 |
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Apr 25, 2014 02:53
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I mean it's in 5, I guess that's proggy
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tbf, it's proggier than I can play. I listen to prog, but I play garage rock. VVV poo poo, I need to write a three-chord junk song about necromancers now. hexwren fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Apr 25, 2014 |
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Superficially, it has some prog elements to it, but it's under 12 minutes long and makes no mention of necromancers so
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Alright well have ordered Starless. Thanks for the input, it's one I've completely skipped over and was a bit surprised to hear that it was so well received for some reason. I'm still not sure what I really think of Discipline. I like Talking Heads, but I like Talking Heads because they're Talking Heads. King Crimson pulling the same punches is a bit jarring. Also really did not appreciate before that Discipline came after a 7 year break. That's a really long time, poo poo.
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Nobody Interesting posted:I'm still not sure what I really think of Discipline. I like Talking Heads, but I like Talking Heads because they're Talking Heads. King Crimson pulling the same punches is a bit jarring. Absent Lovers, Absent Lovers, Absent Lovers.  Also Fripp's solo album Exposure bridges the gap between '70s and '80s Crimson pretty nicely, though you need the complete CD release that has both distinctly different editions + alternate versions of tracks that are superior to what ended up on either. Hell, it's also a must-buy if you're a Peter Gabriel fan as it has the best version of Here Comes the Flood.
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Nobody Interesting posted:Alright well have ordered Starless. Thanks for the input, it's one I've completely skipped over and was a bit surprised to hear that it was so well received for some reason. King Crimson was for all intents and purposes dead. Belew was put in touch with Fripp through I thiiiink Brian Eno and they hit it off and started a project with Bruford and Levin that they were going to call Discipline but ultimately decided that it was another incarnation of KC. It skews more towards post-punk and new wave because that's what Fripp was interested in at the time but the rhythmic intensity and darkness is all still there. Also Belew sings very similarly to Byrne in terms of energy and yelping. Those kind of comparisons are inevitable. If you listen to Belew's playing with, well, anyone, it sounds like what he did with KC in the 80's (especially the Talking Heads stuff).
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Allen Wren posted:Jesus. People can throw around that kind of cash and here I am wondering if buying a car for a grand is going to bankrupt me. Never thought I would like a winger song, but I have to admit the main riff is pretty cool. Still pretty lame when the vocals come in though.
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Pretty okay song (shame about the Nickelback vocals), but that riff reminds me way too much of what's going on in the chorus of this Sky Architect song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3WCJabGRoE
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So are they still going to do that song about having sex with teenagers or what
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Rollersnake posted:one of those rare albums that manages to amaze me in the first ten seconds. Just started listening. You're totally right.
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Seventh Arrow posted:So are they still going to do that song about having sex with teenagers or what Has a way better riff than their prog song btw
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Sorry but if a band doesn't wear kimonos and sing about evil wizards in magic castles, I just can't take them seriously.
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Oh please, like every band in the eighties wore kimonos
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Nobody Interesting posted:Alright well have ordered Starless. Thanks for the input, it's one I've completely skipped over and was a bit surprised to hear that it was so well received for some reason. You'll notice in the liner notes that Starless and Bible Black is mostly a live album. The Great Deceiver, Lament, Night Watch (after the 'shine' intro), are the studio tracks. The others are live tracks, which is why I love it so much. It has a bit of overdubbing, and you can find them in various live comps. The last track "Fracture" is probably my favorite King Crimson song. Its so dark and evil, complex but doesn't tire you out while listening. Your jaw will hit the floor when you hear that very fast riff from Fripp in the middle of the song.
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Hi! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwXQYIM-BNA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Rh6Kq7xunM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrHn7EbcY7I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKMSOVuH73E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLZvC3DrgdE Oh and I'll go to ba Alright bye. Gaspar Lewis fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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Apr 28, 2014 19:32
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Wait come back I want to talk about Atomic Rooster
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Oh okay, just for a second. Vincent Crane was a goddamn genius. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B8kdwSsAGE
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Gaspar Lewis posted:Oh okay, just for a second. Vincent Crane was a goddamn genius. Shame he was totally nuts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yO7l6TmIRI ELP was a huge mistake as every band the members were in before was way better
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Declan MacManus posted:ELP was a huge mistake as every band the members were in before was way better Now we're talkin' my language, oh yeah! Throw everything except maybe Karn Evil 9 and their cover of Peter Gunn in a flaming pit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg--Jmg74F8 Also while I'm linking Arthur Brown, we can talk about Alan Parsons Project some more! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5NN8fK1tXo Also also Roxy Music was the most successful prog band of all time because they had the smarts to use Bryan Ferry and hide that they were prog in the first place. What the hell else are you gonna make of a band that cycles through dudes like Manzanera (see below), Eno (duh), Jobson (Curved Air, everyone else) and Gustafson (Quatermass) non-stop? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mA4m6y1Ifw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vj0aH9yBKQ Good poo poo, good good poo poo.
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Having Brian Eno didn't hurt, since everything he touched in the 70's turned into a classic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP-RFsuv-8Q
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Oh and apropos of nothing: 90125 was one of the top 5 (maybe even 3) albums Yes ever put out even if only as a "Cinema never happened" technicality, because Trevor Horn was and is brilliant and a spritz of the Buggles/ZTT magic touch is what got Jon Anderson back to life and feeling like he was singing about the future. Maybe it was a marriage of coincidence and convenience but goddamn did it work; trying to write it out the history of the band is a drastic disservice. I mean, come on. Trevor could play ball with Jon's style, too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zZs2Mj-kKQ Prog is loving awesome, but the wrong people got a hold of the history books. Take Eno Back!
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So it looks like June 17th will be the release date of two Steve Wilson stereo/5.1 remixes: Jethro Tull's A Passion Play, and ELP's Brain Salad Surgery. I also checked Burning Shed's website, and they already have Selling England By The Pound available on blu ray in stereo and 5.1 (not done by Steve Wilson). More pricey than the usual releases: https://www.burningshed.com/store/progressive/product/465/5419/
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Gaspar Lewis posted:Oh and I'll go to ba I disagree. I think Homo Erraticus is his best album since Thick as a Brick, personally. Half of the songs are catchy enough to get stuck in my head. There are only a couple tracks I found to be weak (Puer Ferox Adventus and maybe The Engineer). To me, his voice seems to be at the best it has been since his throat surgery in the 80's. If anyone hasn't given the album a listen yet, please do!
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MegaZeroX posted:I disagree. I think Homo Erraticus is his best album since Thick as a Brick, personally. Half of the songs are catchy enough to get stuck in my head. There are only a couple tracks I found to be weak (Puer Ferox Adventus and maybe The Engineer). To me, his voice seems to be at the best it has been since his throat surgery in the 80's. If anyone hasn't given the album a listen yet, please do! "Turnpike Inn" was the only song worth salvaging from it. Dismal, dismal, dismal. He still has plenty of talent to spare, but I'm still gonna call a miss a miss. If we accept Thick as a Brick 2 as what it claims to be, I'm chalking up Homo Erraticus as the spiritual successor to fuckin' Under Wraps. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzJNTNR3_7U There are few mortal men on this Earth who can out-Tull me, and those people probably own copies of Catfish Rising which puts their sanity into question. Give me more Secret Language of Birds-caliber stuff any day of the week. Please, less opinions about "techno and rap" and more cat raising advice please, Uncle Ian. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viCxv1TlAv4
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Martin Barre is criminally underrated even though Locomotive Breath is on classic rock radio every three hours https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QOB8XUT3XU
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I really liked Secret Language of Birds when it came out, but I also liked J-Tull.com when that came out, so I might have been easily impressed back then.
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BigFactory posted:I really liked Secret Language of Birds when it came out, but I also liked J-Tull.com when that came out, so I might have been easily impressed back then. I listened to .com again recently, and it's pretty goofy in places, but there's a few good moments here and there.
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I remember Hunt by Numbers being loving incredible live, but also I was teenager at a Jethro Tull concert with my mom.
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Cross-post from the post-rock thread, but here's my band's new single. Instrumental with sorta-kinda-sax-vocals? http://atroopofechoes.bandcamp.com/track/small-fires
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Jethro Tull had a great run from 1968-1979. One album a year, all fantastic. After that it's been very hit and miss. Nothing really stands out at the same level as the 70s stuff. It's a shame.
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Not really prog but Hawkwind played under the same roof as Brian May yesterday and apparently were amazing. They're playing a pretty big gig in October, joined by Arthur Brown. I think a good 70% of Hawkwind is prog, at least.
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Nobody Interesting posted:Not really prog but Hawkwind played under the same roof as Brian May yesterday and apparently were amazing. They're playing a pretty big gig in October, joined by Arthur Brown. Hawkwind is one of those bands that I really want to like, but I never found an album that would have clicked with me. Any suggestions on particular albums or tracks?
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In Search of Space, "Silver Machine", "Seven by Seven" and "Hurry on Sundown" will give you a good basis. Whatever you dig, work from there.
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Paladinus posted:Hawkwind is one of those bands that I really want to like, but I never found an album that would have clicked with me. Any suggestions on particular albums or tracks? Assault & Battery which segues into The Golden Void (about 10 minutes) from Warrior on the Edge of Time. That album's hit and miss mostly because Michael Moorcock insisted on doing spoken bits which really suck. Great album otherwise. Other tracks from there; The Demented Man, Magnu and Motorhead (after which the band was named). I think this is their proggiest album, lovely spoken pieces aside. Steven Wilson remastered it so it must be prog. All the Robert Calvert albums, lyrically at least, are sublime. Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music for Steppenwolf. Quark Strangeness & Charm has the wonderful Spirit of the Age (if you're English you'll probably be amused to know Matthew Wright featured on a version of this) which is a wonderful poem about a space traveller loving a robot. P.X.R.5 is great for tracks like High Rise and Robot. You may also want to look for Michael Moorcock & The Deep Fix, The Deep Fix basically being Hawkwind + Snowy White with their album New Worlds Fair which is so wonderfully weird and almost proggy. The thing about Hawkwind is that the lineup changes mean that virtually every single album is in a completely different style and more or less an entirely new band. Think King Crimson but they a new Belew every 6 months instead of 6 decades. It's therefore a bit difficult to really get a feel for them. For me, fortunately, every incarnation just happens to play a style I like so there's very little Hawk that I don't adore. So, really, take a kind of scattergun approach to it. Try to get a feel for every album and see if you can catch them live before Brocky kicks it.
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