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Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Mr Hands Colon posted:

So was the fact that the 3d conference call part of the show (where there were buffering issues) a part of what pp will fix? Lossless streaming and all that fun stuff that's the point of the whole algorithm/this series...

Based on the dialogue in the scene, I got the impression that the problem was that connectivity to rural Wyoming is just kind of generally poo poo.

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FetusSlapper
Jan 6, 2005

by exmarx
That music from the beginning and the ending, also used in Idiocracy I believe, what song is that?

smg77
Apr 27, 2007
Finally got to watch the most recent episode and it's the one that made this go from a good show to an amazing one. The initial reveal of the logo/mural and the hologram scene were the funniest things I've seen on TV in a while.

Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.
so was the 3d video booth tube thing based on something that really exists in some form, or was it straight up pure fantasy?

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Fatkraken posted:

so was the 3d video booth tube thing based on something that really exists in some form, or was it straight up pure fantasy?

Have you not seen Hologram 2Pac?

Storgar
Oct 31, 2011

Fatkraken posted:

so was the 3d video booth tube thing based on something that really exists in some form, or was it straight up pure fantasy?

Cisco telepresence. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMCR9xep81E)

I was a loving intern there when it happened. The CEO John Carpenter was all over this poo poo. It was worth it though, if it means this scene is loving hilarious to me now.

By the way, it might end up looking impressive in this video, but that's because it's a video and he'shis veeps are far away on a stage.

e. I can't SMELL you yet. :downsbravo:

Storgar fucked around with this message at 19:13 on May 6, 2014

uG
Apr 23, 2003

by Ralp

Fatkraken posted:

so was the 3d video booth tube thing based on something that really exists in some form, or was it straight up pure fantasy?

Drublic
Apr 21, 2003

Bass Awkwards

FetusSlapper posted:

That music from the beginning and the ending, also used in Idiocracy I believe, what song is that?

I believe it's Nuevos Tiempos by Pueblo Cafe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nG1V773LVM

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Who is the guy on Richard's wall next to Lenna?

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Some excellent desktop background material from this episode:

NWS


http://i.imgur.com/Z5NGbJK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ktaWSAx.jpg

Veskit
Mar 2, 2005

I love capitalism!! DM me for the best investing advice!
Ironically not work safe. AT ALL.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Yeah, you might want to link those homosexual pornographic images.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


withak posted:

Yeah, you might want to link those homosexual pornographic images.

The first one is clearly heterosexual, unless Lady Liberty is hiding something

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

The first one is clearly heterosexual, unless Lady Liberty is hiding something

You are right. Please accept my sincerest apologies.

Shadowhand00
Jan 23, 2006

Golden Bear is ever watching; day by day he prowls, and when he hears the tread of lowly Stanfurd red,from his Lair he fiercely growls.
Toilet Rascal

zoux posted:

Do they seriously refer to tasks as "stories"?

Also, I didn't know this, but Mike Judge worked as a programmer in Silicon Valley straight out of college in the eighties.

If you're really interested, you can PM me. But lets say for something like Diablo:

"As a player, I'd like to be able to change my skills at any point." is a user story. The team then comes up with a list of tasks which need to be accomplished in order to fulfill that task. Something like:

1. Implement changes in code for UI.
2. Implement changes in Back End to account for X
3. Wireframe
4. Provide Visual Design

You can also breakdown stories if they're too big to accomplish in an iteration (1 or 2 weeks). You can get as granular as you'd like but generally, each "Story" just needs to deliver something of value to a user.

"As a player, I'd like to select a skill"
"As a player, I'd like to deselect a skill"

You can then make tasks specific accomplishing each of these stories.

Scrum's a framework to force people to really communicate with their teams. Its not a magical process that will make you suddenly develop a better product. You still need someone with good product vision, good designers, etc. etc.

If its implemented properly, it can be a wonderful thing. Generally though, people just half-rear end implement it, decide that it doesn't work, and then spend a lot of time bad-mouthing it.

Shadowhand00 fucked around with this message at 02:58 on May 7, 2014

cams
Mar 28, 2003


Shadowhand00 posted:

You can then make tasks specific accomplishing each of these stories.
Wow thanks this is all really interesting stuff. Off-topic, what color is the kool-aid? Purple is cliche, I've always been prone to the red kool-aids.

Really enjoying this show, they're managing to advance the story well while not removing the interaction dialogue that Judge is best at. Kind of bummed that Kumail's character has very little individual identity but you gotta take things slow.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Well thanks whoever edited the post, hope nobody got fired over it... though that would've been quite funny!

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope
I've been semi-regularly writing my opinions on the show in a Facebook group for nerds, and they can be summed up thusly:

1) Zach Woods and TJ Miller are the best.

2) I didn't know Monica's name until the most recent episode. Did they mention it before then? Either way, any time she wants to display any sort of character trait aside from "inexplicably and borderline-unprofessionally kind to Richard" would be lovely.

3) I hate Richard.

4) The Dinesh/Gilfoyle bromance is adorable. :3: (edit: I guess "bromance" is not the right word, but I can't think of a better term that doesn't come from TVTropes -- maybe "hatemance?" I don't know.)

5) If Richard and Monica get together -- and it seems very much like they're headed in that direction -- I will completely abandon the show.

ultramiraculous
Nov 12, 2003

"No..."
Grimey Drawer

YeahTubaMike posted:

Either way, any time she wants to display any sort of character trait aside from "inexplicably and borderline-unprofessionally kind to Richard" would be lovely.

This pretty adequately describes my feelings on her character. She's working for a major investor and she's basically gone way too far out of her way to baby this specific company that doesn't appear to have its poo poo together.

YeahTubaMike posted:

3) I hate Richard.

Also this. He's gone from being a vaguely sympathetic pushover to being kind of a putz. He's got four people working for him and a quarter million of someone else's money, and he appears to genuinely not care about the responsibilities that come with that.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Hahaha

vvv thanks, fixed

Sheng-Ji Yang fucked around with this message at 13:22 on May 8, 2014

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Your link's hosed up.
http://valleywag.gawker.com/techcrunch-speaker-combines-every-possible-startup-clic-1572438546

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope

ultramiraculous posted:

This pretty adequately describes my feelings on her character. She's working for a major investor and she's basically gone way too far out of her way to baby this specific company that doesn't appear to have its poo poo together.

It's bad enough that she's a blank slate personality-free token female character, but her kindness to Richard and the fact that she invested her own money in his company (but for whatever reason not any of the other companies???? :confused: ) is really above and beyond. She has absolutely no reason to believe his company will succeed any more than the other ones, and throwing money at someone because they look good in a toga (because seriously, why else?) is beyond foolish.

That moment where she says "Yeah, I played you a little" -- no, you played him a lot, because THAT WAS YOUR JOB. How long has she been Peter Gregory's assistant? Why is she not even 1/100 as cut-throat as him? If the actor hadn't died, I would have hoped Peter would fire her for fraternizing, but then again that would make it even MORE likely to lead to some horrible romance subplot. Ick.

Side note: they need to give the character a personality at some point before the next time the actress has to utter more than two sentences on screen. Seriously.

quote:

[Richard]'s gone from being a vaguely sympathetic pushover to being kind of a putz. He's got four people working for him and a quarter million of someone else's money, and he appears to genuinely not care about the responsibilities that come with that.

My feelings on Richard have evolved very little since the beginning of the show, and I hope you'll forgive me for copying and pasting my thoughts from Facebook.

Episode 1: "It's an interesting concept for a show, and I definitely relate to a lot of jokes since I work for a tech startup, but the terrible acting/direction ("hey, this scene would work GREAT if you just stuttered and stammered and generally acted like a robot that just had water poured all over it!") torpedoes it...The show is not bad, it's just that the "awkward guy who everyone is supposed to like" archetype annoys me AND is particularly poorly acted on the show."

Episode 2: "THE PROTAGONIST SUCKS. EVEN AS AN rear end in a top hat, HE SUCKS."

Episode 3: "The stuttery loser who created the algorithm (I want to say his name is Richard?) is entirely too nebbishy and overwrought to be interesting or fun to watch."

Episode 4: "For the first time in four episodes, I don't have any outright complaints about anything. Yes, Richard sucks and might always suck, but I've made my peace with that."

I think this is going to end up being an Orange Is The New Black situation, where everyone except the main character is likable, and I'm okay with that.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.
If Bachmann is going to keep getting in trouble with the law, it's going to be harder to suspend the disbelief he shouldn't be in jail.

First kidnapping a child, and now having a grow-op in his garage.

Urdnot Fire
Feb 13, 2012

DrBouvenstein posted:

If Bachmann is going to keep getting in trouble with the law, it's going to be harder to suspend the disbelief he shouldn't be in jail.

First kidnapping a child, and now having a grow-op in his garage.
At this point, they should just go whole-hog with it and just steadily ramp it up as the show goes on, like having him commit murder and treason.

He'd still be way more likable than Richard.

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope
Having Ehrlich commit increasingly heinous crimes would be extremely awesome, and now I'm going to be disappointed when he inevitably doesn't.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

The entire premise of this show is the aftermath of a guy smart enough to develop a revolutionary compression code not being able to realize he created a revolutionary compression code until someone told him the significance of it, but a throwaway joke where you've kidnapped a kid or growing pot with no immediate consequence, that's just ridiculous.

Tigren
Oct 3, 2003

YeahTubaMike posted:

It's bad enough that she's a blank slate personality-free token female character, but her kindness to Richard and the fact that she invested her own money in his company (but for whatever reason not any of the other companies???? :confused: ) is really above and beyond. She has absolutely no reason to believe his company will succeed any more than the other ones, and throwing money at someone because they look good in a toga (because seriously, why else?) is beyond foolish.

That moment where she says "Yeah, I played you a little" -- no, you played him a lot, because THAT WAS YOUR JOB. How long has she been Peter Gregory's assistant? Why is she not even 1/100 as cut-throat as him? If the actor hadn't died, I would have hoped Peter would fire her for fraternizing, but then again that would make it even MORE likely to lead to some horrible romance subplot. Ick.

Side note: they need to give the character a personality at some point before the next time the actress has to utter more than two sentences on screen. Seriously.


My feelings on Richard have evolved very little since the beginning of the show, and I hope you'll forgive me for copying and pasting my thoughts from Facebook.

Episode 1: "It's an interesting concept for a show, and I definitely relate to a lot of jokes since I work for a tech startup, but the terrible acting/direction ("hey, this scene would work GREAT if you just stuttered and stammered and generally acted like a robot that just had water poured all over it!") torpedoes it...The show is not bad, it's just that the "awkward guy who everyone is supposed to like" archetype annoys me AND is particularly poorly acted on the show."

Episode 2: "THE PROTAGONIST SUCKS. EVEN AS AN rear end in a top hat, HE SUCKS."

Episode 3: "The stuttery loser who created the algorithm (I want to say his name is Richard?) is entirely too nebbishy and overwrought to be interesting or fun to watch."

Episode 4: "For the first time in four episodes, I don't have any outright complaints about anything. Yes, Richard sucks and might always suck, but I've made my peace with that."

I think this is going to end up being an Orange Is The New Black situation, where everyone except the main character is likable, and I'm okay with that.

He reminds me of the kid from Ratatouille in a lot of ways.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

sportsgenius86 posted:

The entire premise of this show is the aftermath of a guy smart enough to develop a revolutionary compression code not being able to realize he created a revolutionary compression code until someone told him the significance of it, but a throwaway joke where you've kidnapped a kid or growing pot with no immediate consequence, that's just ridiculous.

Actually the former scenario is not that hard to believe. It is really common in the engineering world...

Vhy
May 12, 2001

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

Who is the guy on Richard's wall next to Lenna?



It's David Huffman, known for a lossless compression algorithm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huffman_coding

Xad
Jul 2, 2009

"Either Sonic is God, or could kill God, and I do not care if there is a difference!"

College Slice

The Dave posted:

That doesn't mean scrum's a buzzword as much as it means that company implemented it poorly.

We recently went agile and while it's buzzwordy to say that it's a real workflow and really helped organize what was a bit of a chaotic product.

I actually worked at a company fairly recently that had implemented Agile (at least somewhat) and it seemed to work pretty well. Mostly, I just hated all the terminology. Especially the word "scrum" because at least to me, it sounds like someone took the word "scum" and went "hey yeah let's make a word for disgusting things sound uglier."

When Jared mentioned it in the episode, I half groaned/half laughed, and then had to explain to a few of my friends what the hell it was. Seriously, it's such a weird buzzword that doesn't tell you anything about what it actually is.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

Yeah "scrum master" just sounds like the best hobo at handjobs. The system has done wonders IMO at our office however.

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope

Xad posted:

Mostly, I just hated all the terminology. Especially the word "scrum" because at least to me, it sounds like someone took the word "scum" and went "hey yeah let's make a word for disgusting things sound uglier."

I think it sounds like a slangified version of "scrumptious" (like "totes," "obv," etc.). That makes it even worse to me.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Is it supposed to be a rugby reference, or something weirder?

Twat le Piss
Aug 4, 2004

Grimey Drawer

withak posted:

Is it supposed to be a rugby reference, or something weirder?

That's exactly what it references

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything
So I happened to hear Mike Judge on Howard Stern and they mentioned how the fellow that plays Peter Gregory passed away. God drat, man. He has been walking away with this show with every single scene and it's a shame it has to go on without him.


Not exactly breaking news, I know, but it was shocking to me.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

The Dave posted:

Yeah "scrum master" just sounds like the best hobo at handjobs. The system has done wonders IMO at our office however.

You people don't know about rugby apparently. The scrum master should really be called the scrum half, then it at least fits the metaphor.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

I'm American, ain't got no time for Rugby.

Brock Samson
May 13, 2003

I let you know me, see me. I gave you a rare gift, but you didn't want it.

Not gonna be the one to complain about "realisticness", but, ya know, source control.

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Holy crap, THat cliffhanger. I feel like you can do a whole separate episode about that.

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

BigRed0427 posted:

Holy crap, THat cliffhanger. I feel like you can do a whole separate episode about that.

What Jared on the boat? Pretty sure he'll just be back in Palo Alto, I'd be surprised if they even mention it. This episode was kind of all over the place story wise, I feel like they probably had to rewrite a bunch of stuff after Welch became too sick to do the show.

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