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I vote for Stannis the Mantis!
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May 7, 2014 01:07
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Hedrigall posted:I vote for Stannis the Mantis! This is beautiful. I think we just found our new ship name.
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May 7, 2014 01:14
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The Mantis B is definitely a ship. My first jump was an automated scout impossible to board effectively that also missled oxygen twice in a row, leaving my crew to die a gasping Mantis-y death while trying desperately to repair at half speed.
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May 7, 2014 01:30
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One more vote for Engi A. All drones, all the time.
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May 7, 2014 01:41
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Engi A.
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May 7, 2014 02:01
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Engies are loving nerds and their ships suck. Mantis 2014 let's go.
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May 7, 2014 02:13
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Might be mean next time and make you choose a Rock ship, since maaaaan Rock A is poo poo and getting the Rock B is hard.
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May 7, 2014 02:57
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HoneyBoy posted:Engies are loving nerds and their ships suck. I am a computer nerd and proud of it.  Engi A for fun and relaxing option. Engi B for bullshit challenge option.
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May 7, 2014 03:22
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You've suffered enough for now. Have some fun with Mantis B, and then we'll pick another torture option next time.
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May 7, 2014 03:28
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Yeah, okay, the Mantis B is seriously worth showing off. 4-man boarding is ridiculous when you don't get aced in the first few jumps by RNG insanity. You can be absolutely swimming in scrap - more than you know what to do with! - well before the final sectors. Set a new personal alpha strike throw weight record of 17 points (two Flak IIs, one Burst Laser II), and upgraded almost every system to max just because. We can make you do Engie B after a relaxing murderrun.
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May 7, 2014 04:26
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Corbeau posted:Yeah, okay, the Mantis B is seriously worth showing off. 4-man boarding is ridiculous when you don't get aced in the first few jumps by RNG insanity. You can be absolutely swimming in scrap - more than you know what to do with! - well before the final sectors. Set a new personal alpha strike throw weight record of 17 points (two Flak IIs, one Burst Laser II), and upgraded almost every system to max just because. Is there even any way to get more than 17? I don't think there is unless it's possible to get two sets of dual lasers, but I've never gotten those except as starting weapons.
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May 7, 2014 04:33
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psluuthor posted:Is there even any way to get more than 17? I don't think there is unless it's possible to get two sets of dual lasers, but I've never gotten those except as starting weapons. More than, say, 10 projectiles is overkill, so you'd be better off making up the additional with beam weapons, which have better damage:energy ratios. Flak II + Dual Lasers + Glaive Beam would probably be a better setup. Still, 17 projectiles is pretty loving awesome. Too bad the Weapon Pre-Igniter doesn't apply to the Federation Cruiser's artillery weapons. You could be throwing 3 Flak IIs + whatever in your alpha strike with the Fed C!
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May 7, 2014 04:43
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psluuthor posted:Is there even any way to get more than 17? I don't think there is unless it's possible to get two sets of dual lasers, but I've never gotten those except as starting weapons. Flak II, Flak II and Flak I/Burst Laser II on the Fed Cruiser C.
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May 7, 2014 07:00
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Inadequately posted:Flak II, Flak II and Flak I/Burst Laser II on the Fed Cruiser C. My word. That's 24 shots. You can't get two Dual Lasers to replace the Flak I/BLII (they're starting weapons only), none of the two-power charge weapons can fire more than three shots, and you can't get Crystal Vengeance on anything but the Crystal ships, so... yeah, I think that's the absolute top bound on projectile count. (Unless you'd be willing to factor in combat drone shots as part of your "volley", in which case +2.)
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May 7, 2014 07:35
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Mantis C On Hard.
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May 7, 2014 16:02
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:More than, say, 10 projectiles is overkill, so you'd be better off making up the additional with beam weapons, which have better damage:energy ratios. Flak II + Dual Lasers + Glaive Beam would probably be a better setup. Still, 17 projectiles is pretty loving awesome. True. I just tried out a run that was rough at first, but turned out extremely strong in the end: Flak II, Pike Beam, a double-shot Hull Laser, and an Ion Bomb. Picked up Weapon Pre-Igniter in sector 7 and got a perfect on the first two forms of the boss (took a bit of damage on the third though - the Zoltan Shield makes perfecting that form really hard). I think the larger issue is that the ideal weapons suite early on, unless you get an early pre-igniter, is a bunch of burst lasers. They charge quick and are reliable, which allows you to neutralize a lot of early enemies without taking any damage. Winning fights without taking damage obviously means more scrap, so it's pretty much just better than long-charge weapons for most of the game. The Kestrel B is pretty much that philosophy taken to the extreme and it's a fantastic ship because of it.
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May 7, 2014 22:02
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Corbeau posted:True. I just tried out a run that was rough at first, but turned out extremely strong in the end: Flak II, Pike Beam, a double-shot Hull Laser, and an Ion Bomb. Picked up Weapon Pre-Igniter in sector 7 and got a perfect on the first two forms of the boss (took a bit of damage on the third though - the Zoltan Shield makes perfecting that form really hard). Another reason that lasers are superior to beams early on is that they have a very good chance to hit when the enemy's engines aren't upgraded as much, so the beams guaranteed hits are less of an advantage. And the beams do less damage to individual systems, so they will often not be able to take down missiles or whatever is threatening to chip away at your hull during a particular encounter. But when the enemy ships start getting better engines and dodging half your laser shots, using strictly lasers basically just means they can get back up and running more quickly. However, if you are focusing on boarding I think it still makes sense to load up on single target weapons, just because beams do so much indiscriminate damage. It's nice to be able to disable weapons and the medbay without destroying the ship in the process. Although obviously the fire beam is an exception.
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May 7, 2014 22:33
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Hey, guess which game Zero Punctuation did a not-so-retro review on this week. I think it's a fairly decent summation of what we've seen here, including the point somebody brought up about the rebels being the antagonists.
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May 8, 2014 00:06
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HoneyBoy posted:Engies are loving nerds and their ships suck. I would be pretty upset myself if my biological race was Nerd.
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May 8, 2014 02:43
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Yapping Eevee posted:Hey, guess which game Zero Punctuation did a not-so-retro review on this week. I think it's a fairly decent summation of what we've seen here, including the point somebody brought up about the rebels being the antagonists. Have you also seen his poem from the rebel perspective? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi-VNkT57oE
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May 8, 2014 03:11
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Hedrigall posted:Have you also seen his poem from the rebel perspective? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi-VNkT57oE Ohhh, I forgot about this.  Thanks for reminding me about it, and for sharing it with the thread.
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May 8, 2014 03:43
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Hedrigall posted:Have you also seen his poem from the rebel perspective? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi-VNkT57oE I had not heard this before; truly this is beautiful art.
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May 8, 2014 16:44
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I think it's safe to go ahead and close the voting, given the strong showing of support for Mantis B. Final results are as follows: engi a- 6 engi b - 1 zoltan b - 2 fed c - 1 zoltan c - 2 mantis b - 14 mantis c - 2 crystal b - 1 slug b - 1 e: Bless you, goons. I finally get to play one of my favorite ships! Momplestiltskin fucked around with this message at 17:55 on May 8, 2014 |
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May 8, 2014 17:51
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Hedrigall posted:Have you also seen his poem from the rebel perspective? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi-VNkT57oE That was beautiful, in every way.
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May 8, 2014 18:48
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Momplestiltskin posted:I think it's safe to go ahead and close the voting, given the strong showing of support for Mantis B. Final results are as follows: You're welcome, the run after this will cripple you though, we'll make sure of that 
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May 9, 2014 15:36
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Nalesh posted:You're welcome, the run after this will cripple you though, we'll make sure of that My anus is puckered in anticipation.
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May 9, 2014 23:09
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It better be that Engie B challenge run. More vent than a Metal Gear game.
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May 10, 2014 01:55
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Another Person posted:It better be that Engie B challenge run. More vent than a Metal Gear game. But far fewer boxes. Still, the stove challenge mission should be fun(ny) to watch. Also would be another drinking game.
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May 10, 2014 02:20
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Update! Season 2 Episode 4: "Living with Blades for Hands"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsYZTHEnIr4
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May 12, 2014 15:31
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I hope you went with my ship name suggestion edit: Aw man, you didn't 
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May 12, 2014 15:38
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Something broke deep, deep inside me when you sold the Glaive beam. I'm watching without sound so I hope you were just constantly muttering "Please forgive me".
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May 12, 2014 16:08
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Beamed posted:Something broke deep, deep inside me when you sold the Glaive beam. I'm watching without sound so I hope you were just constantly muttering "Please forgive me". After the Stealth B I don't even want to look at a Glaive Beam. Seriously though, it's not very versatile, and beam weapons are not that great when you are relying on boarding because they hit large areas and your boarders can get in the way. It is also worth a lot of scrap. I would sell a Glaive Beam 9 times out of 10.
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May 12, 2014 16:11
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Well, I just reached the point where you renamed crew dudes, and I can already tell you failed my mini challenge. 
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May 12, 2014 16:34
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Mehuyael posted:Well, I just reached the point where you renamed crew dudes, and I can already tell you failed my mini challenge. It was for your own safety; if the mantises on board got wind that you were a lily-livered pacifist, they'd shut you out the airlock... if you were lucky. If you were unlucky, they'd rip you apart with their mandibles and feast upon your tasty flesh. It's kill or be killed aboard The Lovefriend!
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May 12, 2014 16:45
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Momplestiltskin posted:It was for your own safety; if the mantises on board got wind that you were a lily-livered pacifist, they'd shut you out the airlock... if you were lucky. If you were unlucky, they'd rip you apart with their mandibles and feast upon your tasty flesh. It's kill or be killed aboard The Lovefriend! Well, there's always another ship if my name comes up again.
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May 12, 2014 16:47
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That weapon set-up, the ion bomb and the chain laser, is perfect for the "hold control while selecting a target to do the opposite of the main auto-fire toggle".
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May 12, 2014 19:07
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Major_JF posted:That weapon set-up, the ion bomb and the chain laser, is perfect for the "hold control while selecting a target to do the opposite of the main auto-fire toggle". This doesn't seem to work on OSX 
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May 12, 2014 19:12
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In windows, all the buttons have hover text to tell you the hot keys. It might be something different in OSX.
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May 12, 2014 19:32
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Having just finished a Lanius A playthrough, the reconstructive teleport augment is AMAZING for boarders, especially if you have a clone bay.
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May 12, 2014 19:38
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Guitar_Hero posted:Having just finished a Lanius A playthrough, the reconstructive teleport augment is AMAZING for boarders, especially if you have a clone bay. It's especially amazing for Lanius, since you cannot kill them for fresh copies by venting their room.
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