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I know Opera 12.16 uses OpenSSL but I haven't been able to find the exact version or if it's one that contains the Heartbleed bug. Does anyone know?
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Eb posted:I know Opera 12.16 uses OpenSSL but I haven't been able to find the exact version or if it's one that contains the Heartbleed bug. Does anyone know? Apparently that shouldn't be an issue - there is no realistic situation where an outsider will initiate a connection to opera's openssl code.
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Apr 10, 2014 22:47
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Computer viking posted:Apparently that shouldn't be an issue - there is no realistic situation where an outsider will initiate a connection to opera's openssl code.
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Apr 11, 2014 16:12
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I have to say, i'm enjoying using Opera. The only really niggling thing is no h264 support, so vimeo doesn't work. It's kind of what chrome was when it first came out (useless comparison ahoy!)
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Apr 15, 2014 11:09
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One good thing is that people are looking to replace GIFs with WebM, which used to be something Opera was one of the few companies to champion.
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Apr 15, 2014 12:16
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ufarn posted:replace GIFs with WebM Is this something that is actually happening? And will it actully work? Firefox and Opera 12 both start to chug terribly if there are more than a few webms playing at the same time on a web page. Something like the PYF gif thread would absolutely murder both of them, even with only one webm per post.
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Apr 15, 2014 14:35
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Wheany posted:Is this something that is actually happening? And will it actully work? Firefox and Opera 12 both start to chug terribly if there are more than a few webms playing at the same time on a web page.
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Apr 15, 2014 16:09
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But then, Opera 12 only animates gifs when you view them.
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Apr 15, 2014 16:10
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Might also be more of a long term thing, imagine opening a pyf gif thread in a browser half a decade ago. Of course i don't want to imagine the performance of running a dozen webm videos on a tablet or something.
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Apr 15, 2014 16:45
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It has use cases; doesn't mean you have to use it everywhere, but obviously you have to be careful about the usage you encourage it for. I take it autoplay=0 isn't an option? Guess 4chan will find out what works and what doesn't. EDIT: Speaking of, this Chrome/Blink extension automatically converts imgur GIFs to GFYcat videos.
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Apr 15, 2014 16:58
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RoadCrewWorker posted:Might also be more of a long term thing, imagine opening a pyf gif thread in a browser half a decade ago.  Half a decade ago is only 2009.Then again this Riso posted:But then, Opera 12 only animates gifs when you view them.
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Apr 16, 2014 07:32
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Hey, is Opera >12 usable n...Riso posted:Nope. Ask again next year. Welp. I'm so used to having a custom UI, mouse gestures and keeping 40-80 tabs open at all times, that switching to anything else is painful. Firefox can do the first two if you fiddle around a bit, but fails at the last one pretty badly.
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Apr 17, 2014 14:38
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Yeah, I've lost a couple of browser sessions in Chrome, too. 
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Apr 17, 2014 15:14
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Arzachel posted:I'm so used to having a custom UI, mouse gestures and keeping 40-80 tabs open at all times, that switching to anything else is painful. Firefox can do the first two if you fiddle around a bit, but fails at the last one pretty badly. Yeah, Firefox becomes real crashy after you open a lot of new tabs. And for some reason background tabs seem to load a lot slower than the foreground tab. That said, I'm slowly but surely increasing my Firefox usage.
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Apr 17, 2014 22:44
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Well, I guess I'm done with Opera 12. I was using it for browsing + mail on a Fedora system. .opera got fairly large so I moved it to a raid array and replace it with a simlink. One of the drives failed, and for some reason it got stuck in read-only mode while it was rebuilding. I made the mistake of trying to start Opera before the rebuild finished and it somehow managed to overwrite all of my preference files (mail, speed dial, open tabs, theme, whatever else) that were stored on this read-only filesystem and start me off with a single blank tab, no speed dial or mail accounts. 
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Apr 19, 2014 00:04
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I think I'm done too after about 13 years of using it as my primary. I don't understand how they update. At home I'm running a suppoedly up to date version with great features but it has significant website incompatibility issues. At work on a new computer I have Opera 20 which doesn't have some classic features (and still has issues). Adding smooth gestures to Chrome and a (bad) dialer app and it's basically Opera which works minus the mail client.
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Apr 21, 2014 15:47
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It's very telling how many people go "so i updated to 20 and this feels a lot like chrome now except worse, isn't that weird? whats the point" also kinda funny because they don't know just how spot on they are 
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Apr 21, 2014 16:08
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Given that it is literally Chrome, what is the chance that they can ever do Opera stuff like customizing right click menus. Trying to transform Chrome intro Opera seems to highlight that there are limits to what people can mod into it and I'm not so sure how much more the Opera team can do than anyone else. I'm currently bummed. Opera is like a whole community of edge cases with barely any overlap so the chances of the Opera team ever "getting there" is impossible since nobody can really justify the time needed for each feature since so few will actually use it. And the other browsers aren't great at being my specific Opera so the future is a bleak wasteland of giving up.
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Apr 21, 2014 18:30
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Ape Agitator posted:Given that it is literally Chrome, what is the chance that they can ever do Opera stuff like customizing right click menus. Trying to transform Chrome intro Opera seems to highlight that there are limits to what people can mod into it and I'm not so sure how much more the Opera team can do than anyone else. My biggest issues so far are things that they should be able to fix pretty easy. Like the tab separating is awful and makes it hard to see what is on what tab (also tab stacking). No urlfilter.ini, I mean come one, urlfilter.ini was a thing of beauty. Where the gently caress is the trash can where I can see all my closed tabs? If they fix that for me opera 20 would be a lot more use-able and I wouldn't be in browser limbo (I'd still miss things, but those features would make me a lot more patient for the rest). Currently I am using it (because Opera 12 is getting dated and I ran into some issues with sites I frequent), trying to give it a fair shot and so far it is better than chrome at least in my opinion. But realistically, I wish they would have just maintained opera 12 like everyone else who used opera...
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Apr 21, 2014 18:37
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All we ever wanted is to just replace the browser engine and keep the GUI.
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Riso posted:All we ever wanted is to just replace the browser engine and keep the GUI. Speak for yourself traitor. Presto for life!
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Apr 21, 2014 23:58
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Salt Fish posted:Speak for yourself traitor. Presto for life! Is there actually something unique/worthwhile about the rendering engine itself compared to gecko or webkit?
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Wheany posted:Is there actually something unique/worthwhile about the rendering engine itself compared to gecko or webkit? Fit to Width is the main Presto-unique thing I cared about that's never going to get implemented anywhere else.
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Apr 22, 2014 15:37
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My Opera just updated to 12.17. Has this happened to anyone else?
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bondetamp posted:My Opera just updated to 12.17. I just checked: quote:Opera 12.17 is available:
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Apr 22, 2014 21:38
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bondetamp posted:My Opera just updated to 12.17. Yes, also http://www.opera.com/download/guide/?ver=12.17 I guess this is just security updates.
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Apr 22, 2014 21:40
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Going back to Opera (trying out 12.17 for now) after a while trying to get used to Firefox with a dozen extensions is so refreshing. It's so snappy and the tabs don't bog it down and I don't have to configure a dozen addons to match basic Opera. I'm still frustrated that I needed an extension on Firefox to move the tab bar to the bottom of the window, and when you open too many tabs it handles them terribly. I won't even consider Chrome because apparently you need to do some coding fuckery to achieve what Opera allows with a simple drop down. Why am I considered unusual for wanting a tab bar on the bottom? The windows task bar is down there! You know what I think I'll keep Opera 12.17, I just can't handle the re-jiggering to get Firefox and Chrome to not be personally terrible.
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Not sure what the update was about specifically, https://www.howsmyssl.com/ still says it's using the same outdated thing as 12.16, can anyone find a more detailed changelog? still neat to see they have some poor intern chipping away at the legacy stuff, presumably with a ball and chain tying him down in some dungeon cell
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Apr 22, 2014 22:18
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Youtube has not been working for me for a couple of days. With 12.17 it does again.
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Relaxodon posted:Youtube has not been working for me for a couple of days. With 12.17 it does again. Do you often not close Opera? Flash updated a few days ago and updating while Opera is open will often break the plugin.
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Cuntpunch posted:Do you often not close Opera? Flash updated a few days ago and updating while Opera is open will often break the plugin. I close it often and restart my pc at least daily. I also close all browsers during plugin updates. I guess 12.17 installation just kicked something loose for me.
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RoadCrewWorker posted:Not sure what the update was about specifically, https://www.howsmyssl.com/ still says it's using the same outdated thing as 12.16, can anyone find a more detailed changelog? It updates a few certificates and the openssl code, just in case. No functional changes, supposedly. Oh, and regarding slaving away in basements - next time you get to play with a new smart TV, check the user agent. I believe Sony should have some interesting ones. (It would seem fitting to use echo.opera.com to see what the browser claims to be, but I'm sure there are a million alternatives.) Computer viking fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Apr 23, 2014 |
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Apr 23, 2014 13:19
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Relaxodon posted:Youtube has not been working for me for a couple of days. With 12.17 it does again. I have exactly the opposite problem, youtube doesn't work since switching back to 12.17. EDIT: Never mind it was the Extendtube add-on.
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Apr 23, 2014 14:03
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Interesting bit from Opera's latest finance report:quote:In March 2014, the number of Desktop users was approximately 51 million, down 7% versus 1Q13. Revenue was up 6% in the 1Q14 compared to 1Q13, with lower search revenue offset by higher licensing revenue, including the licensing of the Rocket Optimizer video/media optimization technology to a major Internet company.
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The litany of fuckups is becoming unending at this point. My piece of poo poo Chrome Opera which I've been using after I reformatted my computer because why the hell not wanted to update yesterday, so I said okay, and now "Ctrl + Backspace" is bound to some sort of loving thing (it's like "next page" or some bullshit like that) which fucks me up because I always use Ctrl + Backspace to delete words when I'm typing. And I can't even figure out how to change keyboard shortcuts in this piece of poo poo. You probably can't even do that. Why is this so awful and what did we, collectively, as humans, do to deserve this? If Opera 12.old wasn't giving me issues on progressively more sites, I'd just install that thing again. Otter better hurry the gently caress up.
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I'm so sorry. They always say to be careful for what you wish for. Now the wish I made a couple years ago seems to have come true.FSMC posted:Date: Aug 4, 2012 23:52 FSMC fucked around with this message at 00:22 on May 23, 2014 |
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FSMC posted:I'm so sorry. They always say to be careful for what you wish for. Now the wish I made a couple years ago seems to have come true. Don't worry, 'opera with a better-supported renderer' was a much more noble goal than the 'chrome minus extensions' you got.
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FSMC posted:I'm so sorry. They always say to be careful for what you wish for. Now the wish I made a couple years ago seems to have come true. Hey, "Chrome with Opera's UI" would have been awesome. Instead they delivered "Shittier Chrome"
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May 23, 2014 21:36
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Firefox is such a piece of poo poo. I hope they invent time travel soon so I can just repeatedly keep traveling back in time to when Opera wasn't a piece of poo poo too.
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Kevin Bacon posted:Firefox is such a piece of poo poo. I hope they invent time travel soon so I can just repeatedly keep traveling back in time to when Opera wasn't a piece of poo poo too. Why don't you do both? I use Opera 12 as my main browser, which works fine for all but ... 12 websites i use, and the ones with atrociously slow javascript, or ram-hungry and crash-happy flash bullshit get loaded in firefox or chrome.
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