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Can we take a moment to talk about Tony's masterstroke revenge to the "Fireside Chats" Spencer has been posting on Twitter? https://twitter.com/tony_vlachos Gotta hand it to Tony for that one.
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All tony does on twitter is troll spencer and talk mad poo poo on Kass I'm now on board with tony forever
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May 5, 2014 19:55
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This is only a small portion of what's on his twitter feed, but they must be shared with the world.   
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May 5, 2014 20:30
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The "WE BOUGHT A WOO" is still the best. I giggle like a madman every time I see it. e: what's crazy about Tony's twitter feed is that it seems like he answers every tweet to him. maybe he did win the 1st place money 
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May 5, 2014 20:43
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Ghostpilot posted:This is only a small portion of what's on his twitter feed, but they must be shared with the world. Did Tony take a picture of his screen to repost the "Spy Hard" one? If so, I love him even more.
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May 5, 2014 20:49
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I have a feeling that Tony is going to somehow get Trish eliminated this week, setting Kaos Kass up as a swing vote again in the final five.
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hey human fish here's my updated entry for the newbie guide: The "recommended" watch order of the "best" seasons of Survivor, if you have a shitload of time and want to watch the show arc and become more and more strategic over time: Borneo (season 1), Australia (season 2), Marquesas (season 4), The Amazon (season 6), Pearl Islands (season 7), All-Stars (season 8), Vanuatu (season 9), Palau (season 10), Guatemala (season 11), Panama (season 12), Cook Islands (season 13), China (season 15), Micronesia- Fans v. Favorites (season 16), Tocantins (season 18), Samoa (season 19), Heroes v. Villains (season 20), Redemption Island (season 22), Philippines (season 25), Caramoan- Fans v. Favorites (season 26), Blood v. Water (season 27), Cagayan (season 28) ... you can't write TV that good. [*] Caramoan- The second FvF season and arguably a better season than the first one. Cochran provides an object lesson on how to learn from your mistakes when playing as a returner, becoming a genuine, unironic challenge beast and strategic mastermind. He and JT are the only two players to complete a perfect game for a reason, and even with the all-time-great play of Cochran there's zillions of reasons to watch-including two of the all-time greatest tribal councils. In a row. A must watch season of Survivor. [*] Blood v. Water- An on its surface stupid gimmick- returning Survivors and their family members make up all of the contestants, giving this a knockoff FvF feel right after the second- combines with a confirmed terrible gimmick- the return of loving Redemption Island- combines with a really weak field of returners (Candance for the third loving time? Rupert for the FOURTH? Kat?!) to make a, conversely, completely strategically revolutionary season of Survivor. The Blood gimmick makes it so many of the pre-merge votes were uncertain as tribes attempted to prevent couples from entering the merge, and the RI complication made many votes unsure as tribes had no idea who to send, as they could easily boomerang back into the game out of RI and pair up with their partner again. A strong winner who controlled the game extremely well caps a surprisingly strong season. [*] Cagayan- This is not a good season of Survivor, not in the traditional sense. However, it is an utterly insane season of Survivor. Many of the contestants are mentally unhinged and have no idea what they are doing, yet are playing full tilt. Many to most of the tribals have major bombs dropped and vote scrambling occur at the tribal itself, and one player in particular- Tony -is an utter loon in the best possible way. He's like Russell Hantz but likeable. Also includes the arguably stupidest play in Survivor history. Wow that's a lot of show to watch. Abridge it? Yeah sure. Watch China, Tocantins, Samoa, or Cook Islands, they're what the Survivor thread considers the best seasons with no returning players. Fans v. Favorites, Heroes v. Villains, and Caramoan (Fans v. Favorites 2) are the best seasons of Survivor overall; however, a lot of their appeal is in knowing the characters who are participating from their seasons. In other words, you'll have to watch everything I listed to get the full effect of the greatness of Micronesia/ HvV/ Caramoan. (The problem with getting into Caramoan is it requires watching two of the worst seasons of Survivor- South Pacific and Nicaragua- to gain the full effect. These are widely considered to be in the top three of worst Survivor seasons, so as a courtesy I will give a short description of the returners from that season (in addition to a short description for the Redemption Island returners, since it is arguably on that list as well) so as the casual viewer can be fully prepared to jump in to one of the all-time great seasons without watching at least two seasons of absolute garbage. Seriously, Nicaragua and South Pacific are horrifically bad.)
Glossary of Terms ...Used to be only one HII in the game, usually at Exile Island, now there is one HII for each tribe, usually located at their camp. TPI (Tyler Perry Idol): The second, and completely overpowered, version of the HII allowed the owner to play the idol after votes were read and negate them. This allowed Yul to utterly control and eventually win his season of Survivor because the idol was so powerful, as everyone against him couldn't vote for him or anyone in his alliance as he promised to play it on everyone in his alliance if they were targeted. Thus, everyone in his alliance was untouchable. The producers of Survivor recognized its game-breaking power and rebalanced it to what the current HII consists of today. Unfortunately, apparently, and this is not a joke, this is 100% true, Tyler loving Perry texted Jeff Probst after Caramoan aired and said that an idol that could be played after the votes were read should be re-instituted into the game, apparently (and, I guess, somewhat understandably, considering Cook Islands was like 7 years before Caramoan) completely unaware of how much that idol had broken the game. Where it stops being defensible is Jeff Probst (you know, the guy who loving HOSTED EVERY SINGLE SEASON OF THE SHOW) thinking that was a genuinely good idea and using his cachet as EP and host to reimplement that idol into Cagayan. Admittedly, there are some minor changes into how the TPI, as it is called, was implemented and used- the TPI was harder to find, only added to the game after the merge, and could only be used by the person who found it on him or herself and could not be given or traded, but still, it was essentially an invisible, permanent get out of jail free card and was separate from the regular HIIs, so it led to the possibility of someone finding and owning both the TPI and HII (which actually happened in Cagayan), making them essentially guaranteed to enter the FTC.
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Maybe I'm dumb or maybe it's indicative of Cagayan. I can't figure out which play is "arguably stupidest play in Survivor history." This season has a few real standouts.
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May 5, 2014 23:25
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Occupation posted:hey human fish here's my updated entry for the newbie guide: These posts, while great for those of us who have already seen the show, are pretty terrible for "newbies". You blatantly spoil the outcomes of entire seasons both in the particular season one is reading about e.g. your Caramoan entry straight up says that Cochran wins, and the results of future seasons e.g. your Cook Island summary basically goes "Parvati sucks in this season but is REALLY REALLY GOOD in later seasons hint hint". It's genuinely in a newbies best interest to actively avoid your season suggestions, so I really don't think calling it a newbie guide is appropriate. It either needs to be heavily spoiled, completely rewritten so as to not spoil entire seasons, or just removed entirely. Please don't take this the wrong way; you're clearly a huge Survivor fan who has gone a long way to make sure people new to the show see the seasons you really enjoyed. But you do it in a way that removes much of the excitement if and when newbies watch those seasons. When I started watching Survivor I read those suggestions wanting to get an idea of which seasons to watch and ended up really regretting it; so many great surprises were spoiled.
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LostRook posted:Maybe I'm dumb or maybe it's indicative of Cagayan. I can't figure out which play is "arguably stupidest play in Survivor history." This season has a few real standouts. Hashtag chaos Kass Also, LMFAO at Tony registering that website. He's still an obnoxious an insufferable oaf, but that it some masters level trolling.
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That's kind of the point of it: It's meant to be a spoiler-filled summation of the past 27 seasons so they can jump into the jargon-filled discussion without losing a step See also: Thrones, Game of Also because I remember what this thread was like before that op was posted which was every other page someone going "what seasons should I watch" and the responses being some variant of "watch Tocantins, Coach is really funny and JT is a great winner" Anyone who wants to post in this thread should expect spoilers for the show, it's been running longer than some of the people reading this thread have been alive Ed: Also I literally do what you just said, I posted a short list of the seasons to watch and that's that, it's only on explanation of why you, the hypothetical new viewer, should watch those seasons that I go into spoilers because it's necessary There's no way to explain why you should watch them without posting spoilers NieR Occomata fucked around with this message at 00:07 on May 6, 2014 |
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May 6, 2014 00:05
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Euthyphro posted:Can we take a moment to talk about Tony's masterstroke revenge to the "Fireside Chats" Spencer has been posting on Twitter? "Come on. It's survivor in its 28th season no one gives a poo poo"
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May 6, 2014 00:07
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Occupation posted:That's kind of the point of it: It's meant to be a spoiler-filled summation of the past 27 seasons so they can jump into the jargon-filled discussion without losing a step This is idiotic. Game of Thrones? No one recommends that you just read a summation of what happened and then start watching live. No, you start from episode 1. I especially take issue with: There's no way to explain why you should watch them without posting spoilers. What?? Here's one: Tocantins is a beautiful, unique location with really fun characters and strong players. Knowing who wins REMOVES the reason to watch. So dumb. If it's a "spoiler filled summation" then how about you... I don't... SAY THAT AT THE START?
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May 6, 2014 00:16
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Have you read the game of thrones thread? because that's literally what they do, summarize the events of the past seasons and episodes of that season if it's not the premiere. it's full of spoilers So um
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May 6, 2014 00:22
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Occupation posted:That's kind of the point of it: It's meant to be a spoiler-filled summation of the past 27 seasons so they can jump into the jargon-filled discussion without losing a step I see where you're coming from-- you definitely can't get into details about why the seasons are good without spoilers. Maybe the best way to handle it for newbies is thinking of certain vague tags that make a good season, and labeling the recommended seasons that way? Something like: Unpredictable- Amazon, Pearl Islands, Micronesia, Phillipines, Caramoan, Cagayan Historically relevant- Borneo, Australia, Pearl Islands, All Stars Palau, Samoa, Heroes vs. Villains Big characters- Pearl Islands, Panama, China, Tocantins, Heroes vs. Villains, Cagayan Emphasis on strategy- Micronesia, Samoa, Heroes vs. Villains Emphasis on survival- Borneo, Australia, Africa Interesting Hidden Immunity Idol strategy- Cook Islands, Fiji, Micronesia, Samoa, Heroes vs. Villains, Caramoan A big dominant player- Borneo, Palau, Samoa, Redemption Island, One World I dunno, even those are kind of spoilery, but may be a better hook for a season than explicitly stating the winner.
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May 6, 2014 00:25
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mancalamania posted:I see where you're coming from-- you definitely can't get into details about why the seasons are good without spoilers. Maybe the best way to handle it for newbies is thinking of certain vague tags that make a good season, and labeling the recommended seasons that way? Something like: I love this way of doing it. Just something quick about why I might want to watch that season.
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Occupation posted:Have you read the game of thrones thread? because that's literally what they do, summarize the events of the past seasons and episodes of that season if it's not the premiere. it's full of spoilers Game Of Thrones is a serial narrative. There's absolutely no reason to jump into Season 4 without having already watched the first three seasons, and if for some reason you do then it makes sense to read a recap of those three seasons so you're caught up on the story. Every Survivor season is unique, returning players aside, and there's not a major need to know the previous seasons. You can watch Season 28 of Survivor having never seen anything else. You may be a little lost in conversation in this thread (and i think your jargon guide is a huge assist to that) and you may miss some elements like repeat challenges or returning players. But the season is still its own thing. And I mean, your spoiler descriptions are fine if people want to read them but why not stick them under black bars or at least put a very clear and hard to miss warning before them? The problem right now is that your spoiler free suggesting is one blocked paragraph while your spoiler filled descriptions is a giant, well formatted, and fun to read page of stuff. I love your newbie guide and it helped me hugely when I was getting in, but posting "There are big spoilers" after "Why?" or reformatting the non-spoiler suggestions like mancalamania suggested to make it more pronounced would probably help some people from getting accidentally spoiled by reading on like I did.
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May 6, 2014 01:38
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Caramoan was a poo poo season. About the only redeeming part was the tribal on Phillip's boot episode with Malcolm's idol shenanigans and Eddie's poo poo-eating grin. I don't know if I should spoiler that but whatever. They should really stop doing seasons with returnees mixed in with new players; though I'd be ok with something like Philippines' setup with a couple of formerly medivacced returnees added amongst the first timers.
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May 6, 2014 02:10
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Does anyone have that caramoan gif where Phillip goes on and on about how everyone in the tribe is a member of stealth r us and Malcolm's standing next to him going 
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May 6, 2014 03:15
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ColdBlooded posted:Caramoan was a poo poo season. Wrong
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Occupation posted:Does anyone have that caramoan gif where Phillip goes on and on about how everyone in the tribe is a member of stealth r us and Malcolm's standing next to him going There is this one, but I can't find a better quality version - 
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May 6, 2014 04:23
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I would have hated Caramoan if it hadn't introduced me to Malcolm. As it is I really don't remember anything memorable besides Malcolm, Dawn's teeth, Brenda drowning, Reynold's strange mastery of tossing things, and Phillip looking like he poo poo in the pool.
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May 6, 2014 04:26
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Caramoan had a fantastic mix of people. It was a great season.
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May 6, 2014 05:12
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Without a solid 3 person alliance, is it a reasonable strategy for a top player to try to make the final four with another top player? If you go to the final four with three goats (or close to goats...) then you're the obvious target to vote out so your only hope would be an immunity win. With another top player, if you don't win immunity and the other top player also loses, you have another shot at making top 3 by convincing the goats to vote for the other guy. I think Kass, Woo and Trish are the only solid alliance possible as their goals are aligned: they all need to make the final three together or they have no shot at winning. I don't think Trish has done enough recently to keep up with Tony, Tasha or Spencer. As counter-intuitive as it might seem at first look, I think the power players left (Spencer, Tasha, Tony) should be aiming to get rid of a bottom-feeder this week to avoid being in a minority to the goats.
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May 6, 2014 05:22
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I really think you can't fully appreciate Caramoan without at least watching South Pacific. I know South Pacific got a bit boring towards the end but it isn't as bad a season as people make it out to be.
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May 6, 2014 05:47
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The Lord Bude posted:I really think you can't fully appreciate Caramoan without at least watching South Pacific. I know South Pacific got a bit boring towards the end but it isn't as bad a season as people make it out to be. It was entirely boring. One solid alliance of five Pagonged the entire thing. In the meantime, the other tribe was full of terrible people being terrible. The only moments of tension were Ozzy voting himself off, Cochran flipping, and everybody collectively hoping that Ozzy didn't win final immunity.
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May 6, 2014 05:58
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The Lord Bude posted:I really think you can't fully appreciate Caramoan without at least watching South Pacific. I know South Pacific got a bit boring towards the end but it isn't as bad a season as people make it out to be. I think there is some value in it to be able to compare how far Cochran was able to come and to fully understand how crazy Brandon is originally (and what his family does to him during the family visit), but no it was really awful pretty much all the way through. The individuals were crazy and or awful people. Brandon was a creepy stalker, Coach was insane and worked people into a religious frenzy that was honestly uncomfortable to watch. They won a challenge and he starts screaming at them to stop celebrating and get on their knees to thank God for their win. But the gameplay itself wasn't that great either. People got away with terrible strategic decisions they shouldn't have (ie Ozzy getting himself voted out). The majority alliance made absolutely no effort to keep their tribe together and then act hurt and disgusted when someone flips.
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The players themselves were interesting to watch though - Cochran, Brandon, Coach. The entertainment value from watching survivor isn't entirely from the strategy.
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I always thought of South Pacific as the best of the dark ages of Survivor (21-24). While the season on the whole was trash, it had several memorable moments including one that somehow is always forgotten: Brandon giving away his Immunity necklace and immediately being voted out. It wasn't nearly as memorable as Erik in Micronesia just because of the characters involved, but it's still pretty amazing and somehow completely forgotten. I also think 23 had the best cast of 21-24, but that's not saying much. Dawn and Cochran were great casting, and Jim, Brandon, Sophie, and Christine all made some impression. It's sad that 2 great and 4 good castmembers makes 23 above the rest for its time, but it's the reality (compare that to Cagayan which batted about 14 for 18 in castmembers by my count).
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May 6, 2014 06:08
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Brandon is one of the worst and most troubling cast decisions of Survivor I genuinely was afraid for the people on the island with him when he was playing, then he got brought back simply because of name recognition with a complete disregard for how dangerous such a move could be for everyone else
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Occupation posted:Brandon is one of the worst and most troubling cast decisions of Survivor In caramoan maybe; In South Pacific he was so deeply religious that Coach was able to keep him under his thumb through faith; From what I heard in interviews everyone really liked him and would have handed him the million if he'd gotten to the end. It's only in Caramoan that he didn't have that stabilizing influence and he broke down after his tribal situation became antagonistic with Phillip.
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He wasn't ever really stable in South Pacific. He wasn't violent, but he wasn't stable. I remember people used to say during South Pacific that Brandon would stab you to death and then cry about it, and honestly that was only half joking. From right away he became obsessed with a Mikayla who hadn't really said one word to him, painting her as some sort of temptress and whore of Babylon trying to lure him away from his good Christian life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueEVgVFRsdA Then later in the game he was going through daily struggles about lying and being a good person, being desperately wanting to be seen as a good person. Then his father comes for the visit and basically tells him in no uncertain terms "don't be a pussy" and it's clear he struggles from this at home. He's a deeply disturbed person in a messed up family.
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Asiina posted:From right away he became obsessed with a Mikayla who hadn't really said one word to him, painting her as some sort of temptress and whore of Babylon trying to lure him away from his good Christian life. Ugh, that kind of mentality makes me want to vomit. He is a legitimately stupid person using some weaponized version of religion to take down women et al. just for existing and make him feel "morally" superior.
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May 7, 2014 19:54
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He's a messed up not terribly bright kid who grew up around Hantzes. Mix in a dose of religion and it's no wonder he's such a train wreck. On some level I kind of feel bad for the kid, he really doesn't know any better. Putting him on television twice was irresponsible of CBS. Keep in mind Russell is the most coherent member of the family with his life on track. The rest are all far worse.
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I'd forgotten about that whole thing. Just the way he created this whole narrative for this girl that wasn't even aware of him was disturbing to watch. On a  deserted island of all places. Hell, that was a script that wrote itself.
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Ghostpilot posted:I'd forgotten about that whole thing. Just the way he created this whole narrative for this girl that wasn't even aware of him, much less of his feelings towards her was disturbing to watch. On a Obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0qF7anaUhk
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May 7, 2014 20:09
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And Russell ended up dating Mikayla for awhile, didn't he?
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Sand Monster posted:And Russell ended up dating Mikayla for awhile, didn't he? How delightfully trashy the Hantzes are. 
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Sand Monster posted:And Russell ended up dating Mikayla for awhile, didn't he? Yeah Russell usually ends up dating at least 1-2 of the new castaways every year.
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