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why oh WHY posted:I don't think it's going to matter nearly as much with Repels getting an auto reuse. Hoenn was my favorite region so I'm super excited.  And with Repels on auto-use it'll be even easier.
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Magres posted:Time to break out M-Venusaur to fry all the water 'mons in Hoenn You calling surf lovely? Any bets on which of our current favourite features will be dropped this time?
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May 7, 2014 21:57
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Darth TNT posted:Any bets on which of our current favourite features will be dropped this time? The Repel prompt.
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Darth TNT posted:You calling surf lovely? Surf is literally the only battle-useful HM I can think of, and it would be better as a TM at this point. The only difference between HMs and TMs is that you can't overwrite HMs.
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May 7, 2014 21:57
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Magres posted:Surf is literally the only battle-useful HM I can think of Waterfall and Defog.
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May 7, 2014 21:59
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I groaned every time I saw a tree I needed to cut in Y. Get rid of HMs.
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May 7, 2014 22:01
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Magres posted:Surf is literally the only battle-useful HM I can think of, and it would be better as a TM at this point. The only difference between HMs and TMs is that you can't overwrite HMs. Strength and Fly are both usable, though not great.
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May 7, 2014 22:02
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Yeah, please loving ditch HMs, or at least the inability to overwrite them.
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May 7, 2014 22:04
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Cerony posted:If there gonna add newer Pokemon to the Hoenn dex then I know the perfect place for Larvesta/Volcarona. Darth TNT posted:I never played ruby or sapphire, but I was hoping for Z. Were R/S the games with the crap load of HM's or was that the platinum line? Crosspeice posted:It could be the same as Gen III with the new games, remakes, then third version. Kalos is the Hoenn of this generation. Magres posted:Surf is literally the only battle-useful HM I can think of, and it would be better as a TM at this point. The only difference between HMs and TMs is that you can't overwrite HMs.
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May 7, 2014 22:04
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Blhue posted:Strength and Fly are both usable, though not great. Waterfall. How can you guys forget Waterfall. It's one of the, if not the, best Physical water move.
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May 7, 2014 22:05
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Purple D. Link posted:Seriously, I've never understood the water route complaints considering Repels have existed since the beginning. Especially comparing it to stuff like gen V where you'd find a pokemon within two or three seconds of touching a patch of grass. Just try playing Emerald again, you can go for a while without finding any wild pokemon in the water.
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May 7, 2014 22:07
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fade5 posted:That really is goddamn perfect, hell they could also throw Heatran in there; Heatran's still DPPt (or event) only otherwise. No it's not, you can also catch it in Black 2 and White 2.
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May 7, 2014 22:09
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less laughter posted:No it's not, you can also catch it in Black 2 and White 2. 
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May 7, 2014 22:12
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They should replace the need for HMs with Key Items that do the same thing. A small hatchet for Cut, a portable jetski for Surf, calling up some rich character you befriended at some point during the game so you can ask him/her for a lift in their private helicopter instead of using Fly. It'd work.
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May 7, 2014 22:13
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Waterfall. How can you guys forget Waterfall. It's one of the, if not the, best Physical water move. I didn't say Waterfall because someone else already had. I do hate that there's two different water HMs though. When you need to climb waterfalls, you're either forced to tote around two dudes with them or one who has both (and can only usefully use one in combat).
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May 7, 2014 22:13
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less laughter posted:Waterfall and Defog. Defog is an HM? Didn't know that  I haven't found it in XY and haven't played any older gens since Gen 2 (well, half of Gen 3 but never finished it because I got X) I don't think they should get rid of the HM moves, by any means. They're useful as hell. I just want them to go the Rock Smash route and all become TMs
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May 7, 2014 22:16
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Magres posted:Defog is an HM? Didn't know that Not anymore, but it was in gen IV.
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May 7, 2014 22:18
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Line Feed posted:They should replace the need for HMs with Key Items that do the same thing. A small hatchet for Cut, a portable jetski for Surf, calling up some rich character you befriended at some point during the game so you can ask him/her for a lift in their private helicopter instead of using Fly. It'd work. A protein shake instead of Strength.  e: vvvvv Zigzagoon and Linoone are still the coolest* first-route Normal Pokémon in the series so they'll do just fine. *maybe second to Sentret and Furret JordanKai fucked around with this message at 22:26 on May 7, 2014 |
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Line Feed posted:They should replace the need for HMs with Key Items that do the same thing. A small hatchet for Cut, a portable jetski for Surf, calling up some rich character you befriended at some point during the game so you can ask him/her for a lift in their private helicopter instead of using Fly. It'd work. But then what will happen to all the world's zigzagoons?
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May 7, 2014 22:24
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Simsmagic posted:But then what will happen to all the world's zigzagoons? I will hold them and pet them because they remind me of one of my childhood cattes 
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May 7, 2014 22:27
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JordanKai posted:Zigzagoon and Linoone are still the coolest* first-route Normal Pokémon in the series so they'll do just fine. Diggersby tho
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May 7, 2014 22:28
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So showdown has a custom metagame called almost any ability, where your pokemon can have almost any ability, which can produce some interesting combos. I put together a team designed to abuse hail and toxic, and have won all 3 of my matches so far. http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/almostanyability-117578728 The team consists of a magic guard blissey, flash fire skarm, snow warning avalugg, refridgerate dragonite, no guard porygon 2, and a regular abomasnow. I try to find openings for sweeps, but usually it just devolves into a switch off
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May 7, 2014 22:38
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I was amazed at how the first route in X/Y that I got that turned into Talonflame (named Col.Crazy in honor of Pokemon Quartz) completely rocked face. After seeing Gale Wing talonflames I will never make fun of first route pokemon ever again.
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May 7, 2014 22:42
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Simsmagic posted:But then what will happen to all the world's zigzagoons? Being a Pickup user that can actually fight in a pinch is awesome, I actually won two separate random battles with my item hunting team of Galvantula+5 Linoone. Belly Drum+Extreme Speed is legitimately terrifying since Linoone has just enough coverage with two of Shadow Claw/Seed Bomb/Play Rough to make it work, it's how I ended up winning those battles.  Yes Diggersby has Pickup, but it's only really viable with Huge Power.
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May 7, 2014 22:43
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Well I'm excited about the new remakes. Hoenn's a beautiful region with a lot of variety. Volcanoes, deserts, underwater paths, beaches, sunken ships, cities inside of an inactive volcano, cities on treetops, etc etc. Makes me really excited to see how they'll look with a big graphics update. Also I wonder if secret bases will be exchanged via streetpasses, seems like the kind of thing suited for it.
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May 7, 2014 23:00
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It'll be weird seeing Ruby/Sapphire in the XY engine, that's for sure.
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May 7, 2014 23:03
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Are trumpets still in? And secret bases? 
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May 7, 2014 23:06
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Brick Shipment posted:Are trumpets still in? Mega Rayquaza takes the shape of a giant trumpet. The first and only Dragon/Trumpet type. The Trumpet type is super-effective against all other types.
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May 7, 2014 23:11
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Brick Shipment posted:Are trumpets still in? We can only hope
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May 7, 2014 23:14
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I'm hoping for Mega Flygon that actually becomes a Bug/Dragon type. That way he'll be unique again instead of just worse Garchomp.
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May 7, 2014 23:15
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Geostomp posted:I'm hoping for Mega Flygon that actually becomes a Bug/Dragon type. That way he'll be unique again instead of just worse Garchomp. Flygon will always be the best three-stage Dragon in my heart. 
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May 7, 2014 23:19
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JordanKai posted:Flygon will always be the best three-stage Dragon in my heart. Ha, it doesn't even qualify as a three-stage Dragon since Trapinch is pure Ground.
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May 7, 2014 23:23
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I'm looking forward to how they change Ruby and Sapphire to be not aggressively awful, since literally everything about those two games besides the mon list is terrible (Ludicolo is GOD) Like seriously mannnnnnnnnn was gen III bad.
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Are you guys positive that these games actually take place in Hoenn? Groudon and Kyogre both have the ability to create new landmasses and seas, so maybe its possible that they made a new land that's similar but not quite Hoenn? 
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Never played any of gen 3 growing up so this'll be a nice way to experience it! Excitement!
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FPzero posted:Never played any of gen 3 growing up so this'll be a nice way to experience it! Excitement! Imagine if the entire world were a Zubat cave There, now you have played gen 3 Darth TNT posted:Any bets on which of our current favourite features will be dropped this time? No dressup, rollerskates will be removed, no Special Training, all the HMs will be game-necessary to progress, EXP Share reverts to held item Honestly at this point Pokemon should straight-up allow you to turn random encounters off Bravely Default style. There's no reason not to and all it does is make the game more tedious. NieR Occomata fucked around with this message at 23:47 on May 7, 2014 |
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May 7, 2014 23:42
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It was also a strange time where picking Charmander wasn't instant death against the first gym leader.
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Occupation posted:Imagine if the entire world were a Zubat cave This isn't true at all. Honen is not near as water route filled as people like to say.
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Dr Pepper posted:This isn't true at all. Oh, no, just 50%+ of the places that weren't water filled were literal loving caves of Zubat
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It'll be nice to play Gen3 in a world where people actually like Pokemon instead of as the lone weird kid in highschool who Still Plays Pokemon, What A Weirdo. Had nobody to trade with except my little brother, and I never got to see anyone else's hideouts or anything. Pokemon was just not cool during the GBA's lifespan. Thanks for bringing it back, DS.
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