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AAA DOLFAN posted:Oakland certainly has the experience to feel out what too picks are worth in the nfl draft year after year. St.Louis maybe if Clowney is still there and a team like the Bills or Falcons decides they absolutely need him. Oakland, hell yeah. Reggie loves picks more than he loves his mother. I'm not sure if the cheap 2nd rounder they got last year to move down from 3 to 12 was a product of them not having an original 2nd rounder/the overall weakness of last year's draft or if cheap trade downs are just their front office MO. The above tweet tells me otherwise if it's true and for that I am happy. With the 90 something extra underclassmen declaring and pushing some 1st round picks into the 2nd and the dearth of talent on their roster, Oakland would be dumb not to trade down unless they love Mack or Watkins.
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I think the only team in the top 10 who could successfully demand a massive haul is the Texans. Everyone else will have to settle for a good but not great trade (or just not trade). The only exceptions I could see would be if Mack or one of the top tackles slips towards the end. Just too much depth in the draft, otherwise. Coldforge fucked around with this message at 21:40 on May 7, 2014 |
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Coldforge posted:I think the only team in the top 10 who could successfully demand a massive haul is the Texans. Everyone else will have to settle for a good but not great trade (or just not trade). The only exceptions I could see would be if Mack or one of the top tackles slips a bit to 9 or 10. There is depth but only a small handful of elite prospects.
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Toymachine posted:There is depth but only a small handful of elite prospects. I don't see the elite being that elite, except at WR. And even then, the success rate of 1st round WRs & the massive depth at that position takes a lot away from them. Edit: I think it's far more likely that teams will just stick with their pick if they don't get what they're asking for.
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Toymachine posted:St.Louis maybe if Clowney is still there and a team like the Bills or Falcons decides they absolutely need him. I know they're in my division and all but I would still be disappointed if the Rams had a shot at Clowney and passed on him. Seeing a defensive line of that caliber is just too loving historic to pass up, even if it means the death of Russell "Future Winner of the Ben Roethlisberger Douche of the Year Award" Wilson
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The drat Dolphins ruined everyone else's chance of fleecing the Raiders when they made fun of them last year. Now they're going to be so gun-shy.
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Toymachine posted:With the 90 something extra underclassmen declaring and pushing some 1st round picks into the 2nd and the dearth of talent on their roster, Oakland would be dumb not to trade down unless they love Mack or Watkins. If Watkins and/or Mack are available at 5, you take them in that order. If not, trade down smartly to get extra picks in the deepest draft in years(maybe ever).
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Chichevache posted:I know they're in my division and all but I would still be disappointed if the Rams had a shot at Clowney and passed on him. Seeing a defensive line of that caliber is just too loving historic to pass up, even if it means the death of Russell "Future Winner of the Ben Roethlisberger Douche of the Year Award" Wilson If Russell Wilson's wife really did cheat on him with Golden Tate, I'm not sure he deserves the douche award.
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Chilichimp posted:If Russell Wilson's wife really did cheat on him with Golden Tate, I'm not sure he deserves the douche award. I'm not sure he deserves it under any circumstances but rap made a joke and a bunch of idiots ran with it sooooooooooooo 
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i love too troll seahawks fan's online, and i used to be married
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Kalli posted:Whenever I try to think about what Jeff Fisher thinks I come to the realization that he just wants to point at people and have some backup linebacker dive into the side of their knee. trigger warning
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Coldforge posted:I think the only team in the top 10 who could successfully demand a massive haul is the Texans. Everyone else will have to settle for a good but not great trade (or just not trade). The only exceptions I could see would be if Mack or one of the top tackles slips towards the end. There are 5 or 6 elite prospects and 3 quarterbacks who could all conceivably garner high trade interest.
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Bigass Moth posted:There are 5 or 6 elite prospects and 3 quarterbacks who could all conceivably garner high trade interest. I don't disagree. I just think the depth at several positions makes a team overpaying for one of them unlikely. Clowney, Mack or a top tackle could all be possible.
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my Chefs wishlist for their pick (I think its #22) 1. Odell Beckham 1. JFF 2. Teddy Bridgewater 3. Ha-Sean Clinton Dix 4. Brandin Cooks 5. Zach Martin 6. Calvin Pryor 
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I'm almost certain the Bucs are going QB in the top two rounds. Now they're trying to trade Glennon. They've been clear about how uninterested they are with Glennon and I wouldn't be shocked to see them grab any of the top 6 QBs within the first two rounds. Fingers crossed for Bridgewater.
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quote:@timkawakami 3m quote:@timkawakami 6m I like this. Endorsed. (it should be noted that Kawakami is an untrustworthy idiot)
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It wouldn't surprise me if the 49ers stayed put at 30, but I'd guess Baalke goes all Billy Draft Ace the ridiculous amount of Day 2 picks they are holding into high 2015 selections.
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LiquidFriend posted:It wouldn't surprise me if the 49ers stayed put at 30, but I'd guess Baalke goes all Billy Draft Ace the ridiculous amount of Day 2 picks they are holding into high 2015 selections. I think that's exactly it, the goal would be to flip them (perhaps bundled) for early picks next year.
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Eric Galko from optimum scouting just said a thing:quote:-There’s a real possibility that Eric Berry is traded on draft day, with the Falcons being most likely. The price tag is something around a second-round pick. Probably more pre draft garbage, but yes please!
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Shath Hole posted:Eric Galko from optimum scouting just said a thing: I would be pretty sad over this. He's a top five safety in the league and he just got over a pretty rough injury with flying colors.
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So glad the Eagles signed loving Malcolm Jenkins
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It just sucks how expensive Eric Berry is, he's a top-5 pick on those old-school contracts. Trading him for a 2nd and grabbing Calvin Pryor as his replacement wouldn't be a bad move. I do love Eric though
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Parmesan Basil posted:I would be pretty sad over this. He's a top five safety in the league and he just got over a pretty rough injury with flying colors. If this happens, you should just pledge your allegiance to the Atlanta Chiefs
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Pron on VHS posted:It just sucks how expensive Eric Berry is, he's a top-5 pick on those old-school contracts. Trading him for a 2nd and grabbing Calvin Pryor as his replacement wouldn't be a bad move. I do love Eric though
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Trading Berry for a 2nd rounder would be seriously assed up. His cap number is going down a ton next year, we'd eat almost $5m of his current cap number, and he's an elite player just entering his prime years. I'd be...seriously pissed if that went down.
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Why would they get rid of him? What's the angle here because it doesn't seem like it makes sense for KC at all?
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The angle is he is expensive for a box safety. I amend my earlier statement, it would be dumb guys. I even have his jersey and watch all his Adidas commercials on Youtube. I am just a loving miser
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Shath Hole posted:Why would they get rid of him? What's the angle here because it doesn't seem like it makes sense for KC at all? I can see the reasoning: His current cap # is 11m+, which is ridiculous for a SS The Chiefs have decent options at safety (Abdullah and Commings) Chiefs are down draft picks and need to backfill a lot of positions Chiefs could REALLY use his $8m+ cap hit for next year as they have key players at more important positions to extend (Smith and Houston) I'd do it for a pick in the 15-20 range but no one is going to give that up so I hope he goes nowhere.
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You free up space by getting rid of players on the downside, like Flowers and Hali. Those two cuts alone free up 16.5 million in cap space, which is plenty to extend Alex Smith and Justin Houston. E: Oh I forgot, walk away from the awful contract they gave to Chase Daniel. He'd give about 4 million in relief.  I do find it interesting that this trade, along with the Flowers trade and Alex Smith wanting Peyton Manning money is leaking on draft week. LiquidFriend fucked around with this message at 00:37 on May 8, 2014 |
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Jesus christ, Raiders: move back in the draft, pick up literally anyone with the new first pick and with the new second send it for Eric Berry hire me Oakland
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Glazer said the Texans want 3 first rounders and a second rounder for the first overall pick lol so the texans are getting Clowney
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Blitz7x posted:Jesus christ, Raiders: move back in the draft, pick up literally anyone with the new first pick and with the new second send it for Eric Berry Isn't SS like the lone position of strength on the Raiders?
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Blitz7x posted:Glazer said the Texans want 3 first rounders and a second rounder for the first overall pick lol Sounds reasonable
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Pron on VHS posted:Isn't SS like the lone position of strength on the Raiders? There is no position of strength
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Blitz7x posted:There is no position of strength What about QB? 
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quote:Former Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel maintained he would be excited to go to whatever NFL club drafts him during his media interviews Wednesday at the NFL Play 60 Youth Football Festival.
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Blitz7x posted:There is no position of strength But.. but.. Rod Streater
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Eric Berry is awesome but he's essentially on a 2/$20m deal. Who has need and cap space for that, Eagles and Jets? Too rich for Idzik and for some reason Rex hates safeties. He laughed at the Jairus Byrd contract.
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gently caress you Marcel Reece owns.Shame about the whole FB-obsolescence
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Marcel Reese is a better Mike Tolbert, who cares about his roster position
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