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El Scotch posted:Fine boot-strapping. A true patriot. Why do you need to call me a murse? What the gently caress is a murse? You went out of way to do that. Why? Explain yourself.
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^^^ I'm really drat glad that wasn't what you edited out, I want answersSybilVimes posted:These articles are click bait, the premise is that they know 100k, 120k, 250k is an 'absurd' amount to be saying 'we're poor' with, they want you to be outraged that someone could be so out of touch, and thus click on the link, then share it with all your friends. I wonder if there's a group with even more money than that who really do think these people are struggling, and they share these articles to laugh at the pretentious paupers with their airs and graces, who don't even own a property in Monaco
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General China posted:If you have ever been to a university you cannot apply ( Only one poster I know of gets through this and he is too cool to apply anyway ) update your lexicon and embrace the precariat or wallow in the mire of your upcoming mechanised irrelevance.
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Spangly A posted:update your lexicon and embrace the precariat or wallow in the mire of your upcoming mechanised irrelevance. Are people who don't have degrees the new lumpenproletariat? If so, I'm a member of the elite lumpenproletariat. General China fucked around with this message at 00:14 on May 8, 2014 |
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General China posted:Are people who don't have degrees the new lumpenproletariat? A sarcastic questioned asked by a man who hasn't been unemployed for a long time. The answer is an unironic "yes, that is how you are treated." My dearest bootstrapping middle-class father was told to either go to college and get a more relevant degree inbetween interviews at mcdonalds because they didn't think his city&guilds fellowship was useful enough. Since then he has finally understood that his own union-member father was right.
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General China posted:If you have ever been to a university you cannot apply ( Only one poster I know of gets through this and he is too cool to apply anyway ) As a Scotsman, I attend university, but at the behest of the prole, socialist free education. Can I still apply?
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General China posted:Why do you need to call me a murse? I assumed you were a dude, my bad.
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SybilVimes posted:These articles are click bait, the premise is that they know 100k, 120k, 250k is an 'absurd' amount to be saying 'we're poor' with, they want you to be outraged that someone could be so out of touch, and thus click on the link, then share it with all your friends.
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Seaside Loafer posted:For what purpose? just loving ad traffic is that what you are saying? Is that really that outlandish?
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Seaside Loafer posted:For what purpose? just loving ad traffic is that what you are saying? Look at MailOnline or Buzzfeed/ect if you want to see this expanded to be an entire business model.
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El Scotch posted:I assumed you were a dude, my bad. You mean your mad. Your man bad. It's man time in the man lab
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CptAwesome posted:Is that really that outlandish?
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Seaside Loafer posted:Well no but from a big newspaper?!? Ad revenue is where they make their profits. You didn't think they were in it for the honest and in-depth journalism, did ya?
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I wouldn't say it's that outlandish. It's just business, after all.
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SybilVimes posted:These articles are click bait, the premise is that they know 100k, 120k, 250k is an 'absurd' amount to be saying 'we're poor' with, they want you to be outraged that someone could be so out of touch, and thus click on the link, then share it with all your friends. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr5EvZDjUFY
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What about if you went to university, dropped out and then spent the next couple of years working in the WKD brewery literally acting as a part of the conveyor belt, then the grolsch and carling brewery on night shift when liverpool won champions league, working in the St Ivel factory putting chocolate things on supermakert cream deserts and working in a factory making shopping trollies (hint, machine welding the frames is much more fun than putting the wheels on in a cold cold factory at 6am)? Does that make you working class or lapsed middle class? I'm confused.
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LemonDrizzle posted:Labour made a thing. Started out being funny then I realised "Oh  " when they kept listing things that Labour either tried to push through or wanted to anyway.Answers Me posted:This is so terrible, i wish parties wouldn't so this poo poo. I was thinking voting Green but since I've seen this I might have second thoughts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDsV8YumePk The Farage impression is perfect, though. And yes, political parties – and referendum campaigns – can send leaflets to anyone on the electoral roll. They're also exempt from the TPS. It's one of the reasons the Yes vote in the AV referendum failed so badly is that they refused to use the Freepost allowance. TinTower fucked around with this message at 06:16 on May 8, 2014 |
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Funny, thing is, if you look at the articles in the Spectator and Telegraph that we've just been talking about, it's pretty clear that the ad pretty accurately reflects how Conservatives actually think.
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General China posted:Why do you need to call me a murse? Dumb sexist shite is what it is.
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General China posted:Why do you need to call me a murse?  Edit: 'Murse' is dumb, patronising and sexist. The correct term for a male nurse (lol) is 'nursette'. Kegluneq fucked around with this message at 08:32 on May 8, 2014 |
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Barclays will be cutting 19,000 jobs worldwide and 10,000 in the UK by 2016: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27321589quote:Barclays is to cut 14,000 jobs this year - half of them in the UK - as part of a new strategy, the bank has said. That's gonna hurt.
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So, I guess Oxford is kind of horrible, too. (TW: rape.)
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ufarn posted:So, I guess Oxford is kind of horrible, too. (TW: rape.) I was linked this by my sister. I went to the same school as this guy, and didn't know him personally but knew him. (edit: St Paul's, not Oxford) The only issue I have here is that this guy is still innocent until proven guilty and if he is proven innocent I doubt he's important enough to have the media mention that, so now he gets 'attempted rapist' be his top Google result for any prospective employer... So sucks to be him. Also lol banter squadron. Edit: also on the subject of missed appointments and fines, I think SOMETHING is needed. Even if it's just text alerts and guilt calls. Yes £160m as someone pointed out is not proportionally a huge amount but you can't put a price on wasting the already pressured time of a GP and then expecting the entitlement of a no-consequences reschedule, having hosed up if you don't have a valid excuse (E. G. The person who got the date wrong - yeah it's not malicious, but it's still a gently caress up). Perhaps if you repeat offend with no valid reasons they levy a penalty on your bookings. Seems reasonable to me. If you can't respect the service being provided then you have to pay for it. A fine for something like that might be worth it, of course there needs to be consideration that enforcement might be more costly than the Revenue from the fines. Charging flatly for appointments won't work as it will just make people go to A&E which is already laughably overstretched. Lord Twisted fucked around with this message at 09:11 on May 8, 2014 |
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ufarn posted:So, I guess Oxford is kind of horrible, too. (TW: rape.) Despite its name the oxford union is actually entirely separate to the university and more than one administrator has wished it did not exist.
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What world are you living in? Almost all chicken in the UK is not Halal, about 5-10% of chicken slaughtered in the UK is Halal. goddamnedtwisto posted:Advocates of ritual slaughter will say (with some justification) that ritual slaughter actually causes less suffering, on average. The thinking goes that because the boltgun doesn't always render the animal unconscious but merely stunned, they are in considerable distress for quite some time before the killing blow. Ritual slaughter, done right, only distresses the animal for a few seconds. In pre-boltgun days halal/kosher slaughter was considered to be easily the kindest method of slaughter (the rapid exsanguination guaranteeing death in seconds) No no no no no no no. Ritual slaughter does not cause less suffering "on average". 99+% of the time that bolt gun ceases brain function immediately, whereas brain function is gradually reduced over the course of a minute or more without stunning. Not only that, cows can wake back up after having their throat slit because they have other blood vessels that feed the brain, not just main neck arteries and veins. You're really really mistaken with a lot of the stuff you're saying here. Would you care to explain how halal/shecita slaughter differed from traditional slaughter in pre-boltgun days that made it "easily the kindest method of slaughter"? Cos it sounds like you've read a couple of wikipedia articles and rushed into the thread to denounce bigotry at the expense of animal welfare.
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twoot posted:Look at MailOnline or Buzzfeed/ect if you want to see this expanded to be an entire business model. But traffic is slowly going out of fashion as the metric for a successful website, popbitch did an angry but accurate article on it a while back. I'll link to it when I get home, but the take away is always be clicking on daily heil links as it dilutes their worth not increase them.
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Kegluneq posted:This post is self explanatory. Don't be such a prick.
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Larry_Mullet posted:What world are you living in? Almost all chicken in the UK is not Halal, about 5-10% of chicken slaughtered in the UK is Halal. Killing animals for food is wrong, quibbling over which is the more humane way of dispatching them (they are both terrible) is missing the point.
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JFairfax posted:also why the gently caress are Procul Harum kidnapping girls in nigeria? Presumably they're a whiter shade of pale.
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Mr. Flunchy posted:Killing animals for food is wrong, quibbling over which is the more humane way of dispatching them (they are both terrible) is missing the point.  Y'know, it is possible to support / vote for / argue in favour of an intermediate position without giving up on a more extreme position.
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Larry_Mullet posted:No no no no no no no. I specifically said that that's what advocates of ritual slaughter claim, not that I was claiming it myself. As to your second part - the normal method of slaughter for large animals was a downwards cut with an axe through the spine, or hitting them with a hammer - in both cases this paralyses/renders unconscious the animals (normally) on the first or second blow but still left them taking minutes, if not hours, to die, and of course potentially left you trapped in a small area with a quarter of a ton of very pissed off, wounded animal. Stunning is purely to prevent that second part and has nothing at all to do with preventing cruelty. How did the aliens who built the pyramids kill their animals, by the way?
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Bozza posted:I've got no kids like, but the little theoretical bastards will be going to state school like Daddy, not posho schools, even if they did exist. My partner and I actually ran the numbers when we had kids, and once you add on things like food, rent, utility bills, transport to work, a bit of money to do things like replace your clothes when they wear out or pay someone to fix your boiler when it breaks and you can push that number up to £25,000+ quite easily (reminder: the median UK salary is £26,000). It gets a little better once the kids reach 5. State schools will look after them from 9-3 every day, but again, if your'e working, you'll need to stump up the money to keep them occupied until 5.30 or 6 or whenever you can get back to pick them up, and all after-school clubs cost money as well. I can easily see the vast bulk of a £30,000 salary disappearing if you live somewhere where rents are high and living near to work is impossible, like the South East. Particularly if you lack family or friends who can do child-minding off the books. Zephro fucked around with this message at 12:09 on May 8, 2014 |
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Saw James Dingleberry talk and you can't let that pass without posting this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wmuhKzYp4s James Delinglpole: A loving idiot who openly admits he doesn't know a thing about the things he believes. Amazing what a bunch of connections can do for an utter idiot.
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Seaside Loafer posted:For what purpose? just loving ad traffic is that what you are saying? Sites like Buzzfeed are entirely open about this. Their headlines ("17 Ambiguously Gay Cartoon Characters from the 1980s") are specifically designed to be as clickbaity as possible, and their articles are designed to be read quickly so that you can move on to the next intriguing headline - a selection of which are conveniently presented to you at the bottom of the piece. If they have any sense they're doing what Amazon and Netflix do as well and tracking what you read so they can learn about your individual preferences, then serve you up more articles based on that. Traditional newspapers face exactly the same commercial pressures. A few (the Times, the FT) are trying to make a mostly-subscription model profitable but if you decide not to pursue that strategy then chasing eyeballs by the million is your only other option.
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Serotonin posted:Don't be such a prick. notaspy posted:Here is that article about why it's OK to click daily mail links: Not really sure what to make of this. Yay for the alleged lack of profit, but I thought a better reason not to follow Mail links was simply to not give them the audience in the first place. It's not as if any of us were going to buy the actual paper anyway.
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Kegluneq posted:Not really sure what to make of this. Yay for the alleged lack of profit, but I thought a better reason not to follow Mail links was simply to not give them the audience in the first place. It's not as if any of us were going to buy the actual paper anyway. We might not buy the paper, but we will share it with our social networks as a 'look how stupid these fucks are' thing, and there may be some in our network that DO then buy it or spend the next hour reading their other articles. Before you say 'but that won't happen, we're all lefties', the fact that we're talking about links posted to this thread is proof of how it works as they intend - to deny there are right wing posters in this thread would be absurd, so someone sees something ridiculous on their FB feed or something from the mail, posts it here, and who knows, out of the 2000 people that read this thread, maybe 50 of them spend an hour reading the mail's other articles, and sharing the 'more rational' ones with their (presumed right wing) social network. Even if those 50 don't exist, advertisers don't really care THAT much if a person is left or right leaning, so those 2000 people clicking on the link to be outraged still get exposed to B&Q's latest sale items, or whatever.
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