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Gaz-L posted:Isn't John Doman playing one of the mobsters? (Rawls from The Wire) Amazing casting for Great White Shark, though.
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I'm loving how Agents of SHIELD has become an exercise of hinting that they're going to go with the blatant redemption arc for Ward, only to smack it out of your hand and go, "NOPE!" "Look, Garrett told Ward to kill his dog years ago and he instead scared the dog away with a warning shot! He's not such a bad guy after-- haha, just kidding. He shot the dog after that. He's a loving rear end in a top hat."
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May 7, 2014 03:14
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May 7, 2014 04:15
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Gavok posted:I'm loving how Agents of SHIELD has become an exercise of hinting that they're going to go with the blatant redemption arc for Ward, only to smack it out of your hand and go, "NOPE!"
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May 7, 2014 05:07
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achillesforever6 posted:He has to kill things from far away where he can't feel as bad It made strangling Patton Oswalt to death really difficult.
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Gavok posted:It made strangling Patton Oswalt to death really difficult. Nooooo, not Oswalt 
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Gavok posted:It made strangling Patton Oswalt to death really difficult.
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May 7, 2014 05:50
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This is a Whedon show, Ward is getting his redemption eventually to become the snarky anti-hero. I mean Buffy had murderer and attempted rapist Spike become the sacrificial hero, even Ward hasn't sunk to that level yet.
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That was after Whedon had abandoned the show for Angel and let Marti Noxon run it but didn't want to change the redeemed evil vampire is the key ending. Ward has broken two cardinal rules killed a comic relief character and killed a dog he'll get a deathbed redemption at best.
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SirDan3k posted:That was after Whedon had abandoned the show for Angel and let Marti Noxon run it but didn't want to change the redeemed evil vampire is the key ending. Ward has broken two cardinal rules killed a comic relief character and killed a dog he'll get a deathbed redemption at best. Well I meant the Whedon term loosely given that it's not a "true" Joss Whedon show but redemption is still redemption! What I mean is that Ward isn't going to die slowly while shouting "I always thought you were a bitch" to Skye he's going to either save the day or team up with them because deep down there is good in him.
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Waterhaul posted:Well I meant the Whedon term loosely given that it's not a "true" Joss Whedon show but redemption is still redemption! What I mean is that Ward isn't going to die slowly while shouting "I always thought you were a bitch" to Skye he's going to either save the day or team up with them because deep down there is good in him. Even Spike never killed a dog. In TV logic killing a dog is worse than attempted rape.
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XboxPants posted:Even Spike never killed a dog. In TV logic killing a dog is worse than attempted rape. It's more basic then that. Any violence directed at a hero/heroine can be forgiven by the hero/heroine and only serves to portray the hero/heroine as super humanly righteous but forgiving the violence directed at the universally innocent, and slightly characterized, is seen as a betrayal of the hero/heroine's role in the story. Ward's violence was directed at established archetypal characterizations while a villain who gets redeemed's victims are only characterized after the fact as a part of the emotional crucible they must endure to be cleansed of sin. Redeeming Ward would be far to unconventional for the level the show operates at. Buffy as a whole is a bad example as they had the soulless monstrosity gets their soul back redemption shortcut.
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It's not like there haven't been characters in comics that have done worse things than Ward and been redeemed afterwards (usually due to their death). Ward dying to prevent Garrett from killing Skye is exactly the kind of thing I could see them doing in the finale.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:It's not like there haven't been characters in comics that have done worse things than Ward and been redeemed afterwards (usually due to their death). Ward dying to prevent Garrett from killing Skye is exactly the kind of thing I could see them doing in the finale. We'll get our cake and eat it too. He'll die sacrificing himself for the team, then take a trip to Tahiti and come back with super powers.
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ToastyPotato posted:I still maintain the best possible show would have been one about Bruce's parents and their involvement with Gotham's secret societies for rich people. You could still get the Cobblepots that way, and get some Arkham stuff going too. I agree, or even as someone suggested just GCPD. You could reference the Bat, but these are the guys working every day, etc in this crazy city. With the idea of the show centering on the Wayne family, you could end it on the day they take Bruce to the Zorro film. End of show. We all know what happens.
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Mimir posted:Odds on a time skip before season 2? Fantastically low. Now a time skip BETWEEN seasons? Higher. But if it were to happen I wouldn't expect it before the "Toootallly no Justice League movie... WE SWEAR!" comes out.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:It's not like there haven't been characters in comics that have done worse things than Ward and been redeemed afterwards (usually due to their death). Ward dying to prevent Garrett from killing Skye is exactly the kind of thing I could see them doing in the finale. I think most people are okay with that. I would be. What nobody wants is Ward re-joining the team somehow.
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So do ya'll think that this (edit for clarity: Agents of SHIELD) will tie in more directly with GotG by the end of the season? Yea we got Kree, but something a little more substantive than an offhand reference? I mean, GotG could be the biggest movie coming out this August after all.
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May 7, 2014 21:55
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ToastyPotato posted:Fantastically low. Now a time skip BETWEEN seasons? Higher. But if it were to happen I wouldn't expect it before the "Toootallly no Justice League movie... WE SWEAR!" comes out. "I Can't Believe It's Not a Justice League Movie"?
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hi liter posted:So do ya'll think that this (edit for clarity: Agents of SHIELD) will tie in more directly with GotG by the end of the season? Yea we got Kree, but something a little more substantive than an offhand reference? I mean, GotG could be the biggest movie coming out this August after all. Only one episode left, so probably not.
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Waterhaul posted:This is a Whedon show, Ward is getting his redemption eventually to become the snarky anti-hero. I mean Buffy had murderer and attempted rapist Spike become the sacrificial hero, even Ward hasn't sunk to that level yet. They underlined that he was working for a Nazi organization and this episode he murdered a dog (and ostensibly left the two meekest cast members to suffocate at the bottom of the ocean). This show can't afford to keep Bill Paxton on the payroll forever, it's more likely Ward is being set up as the next season's big bad, he sure isn't coming back from all that baggage in one 44 minute episode.
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Eh, it could go either way. They could use his inability to kill anyone he 'likes' from up close as proof there was good in him all along, or just that he's a coward who doesn't want to get his hands truly dirty.
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hi liter posted:So do ya'll think that this (edit for clarity: Agents of SHIELD) will tie in more directly with GotG by the end of the season? Yea we got Kree, but something a little more substantive than an offhand reference? I mean, GotG could be the biggest movie coming out this August after all. I don't see how they could pull off a tie-in when, by all accounts, GotG pretty much entirely takes place in space (Except perhaps a little bit of Peter Quill origin, which would take place on Earth in the 80s). There is only one more episode left in the season, I don't see any way to get there. Edit: Unless by tie-in you mean Agents of Shield has a Kree and GotG has Kree, because then sure, they could pull that off in the last episode. mikeraskol fucked around with this message at 00:31 on May 8, 2014 |
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mikeraskol posted:I don't see how they could pull off a tie-in when, by all accounts, GotG pretty much entirely takes place in space (Except perhaps a little bit of Peter Quill origin, which would take place on Earth in the 80s). There is only one more episode left in the season, I don't see any way to get there. I can only imagine now Peter's dad (Jason isn't it?) at an earth party going all Zaphod to some girl in the 80s "Hey baby, I'm from another planet, wanna see my spaceship? (ps i have coke)" But yea, I could see the first MCU offical mention of the existence of Kree coming from AoS in the last episode. twistedmentat fucked around with this message at 01:02 on May 8, 2014 |
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SIF already confirmed the Kree exist in her AOS episode.
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Starling City in Arrow is pretty much like Gotham City in the Batman comics. It pretty much gets destroyed every year. Last night's episode was pretty awesome though, and it did give a few great character moments (specifically between Felicity and Oliver). Also Merlyn is back and that was fun to see. He also had the best line of the night in regards to being out of arrows. One thing I wasn't too crazy about was the arrival or ARGUS and Waller saying that she would blow up a major metropolitan because some guys have super soldier serum running through them. It isn't like a contagious disease or anything but she is pretty much willing to kill a few 100,00 people anyway. When I saw the tanks pull up and the cop says they aren't army I thought it would be the League of Assassins and my expectations went sky high, so yea, I was disappointed. Otherwise pretty solid episode over all.
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Gotham showrunner gives first major interview about the show: http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/05/08/gotham-interview/ Is certain that it will be the best thing ever, with the best Bruce Wayne ever and the best cinematography of any Batman related thing.
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Aphrodite posted:The Flash has been ordered to series. As has iZombie.
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And Constantine too for series now. Here's the descriptions for Flash and iZombie quote:The Flash source
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My coworkers keep looking at me funny because of how giddy I am about the news today. Constantine and The Flash on television? Oh my god it is a great time to be alive. I do need to catch up on Constantine's solo comics run to catch up, though, and this makes a good excuse. Not familiar with iZombie, but it sounds like it could be good, quirky fare for The CW. It's a premise that's just silly enough to mix humor and horror well if they play their cards right.
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I forget, who's Shipp playing in The Flash?
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Gaz-L posted:I forget, who's Shipp playing in The Flash? I don't think his actual role has been announced yet. Might be wrong. Axel Serenity posted:Not familiar with iZombie, but it sounds like it could be good, quirky fare for The CW. It's a premise that's just silly enough to mix humor and horror well if they play their cards right. FoneBone fucked around with this message at 22:57 on May 8, 2014 |
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David Anders is awesome. I loved him in Revenant.
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I always felt Chew deserved a tv adaptation, but I guess the tv version of iZombie will serve that role.
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goldenoreos posted:I always felt Chew deserved a tv adaptation, but I guess the tv version of iZombie will serve that role.
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FoneBone posted:I don't think his actual role has been announced yet. Might be wrong. This sounds really interesting and I want to read it. That being said, the TV log line doesn't sound too bad, either. It doesn't sound like they changed things so dramatically it would be unrecognizable, and other characters can always be introduced later. I think the priority was just so heavy on The Flash that iZombie was just an additional thing to this point. It sounds like it could be a fun procedural, which The CW doesn't really have right now. I mean, I'd be really surprised if a gay wereterrier doesn't end up in this show eventually. It sounds perfectly campy, which is right up The CW alley.
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Threep posted:Chew's getting an animated movie instead Wait really? That's awesome!
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Axel Serenity posted:This sounds really interesting and I want to read it. That being said, the TV log line doesn't sound too bad, either. It doesn't sound like they changed things so dramatically it would be unrecognizable, and other characters can always be introduced later. I think the priority was just so heavy on The Flash that iZombie was just an additional thing to this point. It sounds like it could be a fun procedural, which The CW doesn't really have right now. Personally I wasn't a big fan of iZombie outside of Alred's awesome artwork.
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