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Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
Jesus Christ, Heritage. I only got the header from Facebook, but wow:

quote:

Meet the Standford Senior Who Stood Up for Marriage Against Intolerance

Stanford University business major Judy Romea persevered against student-led opposition to a pro-marriage conference

:fuckoff:

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Centripetal Horse
Nov 22, 2009

Fuck money, get GBS

This could have bought you a half a tank of gas, lmfao -
Love, gromdul

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

Jesus Christ, Heritage. I only got the header from Facebook, but wow:


:fuckoff:

Wow, that is one of the most devoid-of-meaning articles I have ever read. Except for a single paragraph 1/3rd of the way down, it seems like they got out of their way to not actually say what position the organization holds on marriage. Instead, it's a bunch of doublespeak about "sexual integrity" and the "culture of dialog and tolerance."

[insert Princess Bride "you keep using that word" image, here]

Isn't any person or organization battling to expand marriage so that more people can enter into marriage pro-marriage by definition? How could anyone possibly be any more pro-marriage than the people who want to let more couples get married? Tut, tut, I am disappointed in anti-marriage activist Judy Romea.

Hazo
Dec 30, 2004

SCIENCE



Haha I checked out the website for that girl's hate group

quote:

The Stanford Anscombe Society (SAS) is a student group that promotes discussion regarding the roles of the family, marriage, and sexual integrity in the lives of Stanford students both now and after graduation. SAS is neither religiously nor politically affiliated, instead basing our positions on human principles. We hold that the family is the key unit of a stable society, and we define the family as one man and one woman bound together by marriage, along with any children that they might have. SAS defines marriage as a union, until death, between one man and one woman. We promote the idea that sexual integrity is necessary for this family unit to be successful.
There is no :rolleyes: big enough. Just be honest that you're right-wing shills.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
'SAS defines marriage as a union, until death'

So are they anti-divorce, too?

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Hazo posted:

Haha I checked out the website for that girl's hate group
There is no :rolleyes: big enough. Just be honest that you're right-wing shills.

Shills get paid, these people are dumb enough to believe it for free.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

McDowell posted:

'SAS defines marriage as a union, until death'

So are they anti-divorce, too?

Yeah, the religious right is commonly anti-divorce as well, defending the "Biblical" version of marriage while conveniently forgetting that the Bible says it's just ducky to have multiple wives or capture women as slaves from neighboring communities and forcibly marry them.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

McDowell posted:

'SAS defines marriage as a union, until death'

So are they anti-divorce, too?

It didn't say whose death; just have an abortion. You've killed a baby! Free divorce.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Yeah, the religious right is commonly anti-divorce as well, defending the "Biblical" version of marriage while conveniently forgetting that the Bible says it's just ducky to have multiple wives or capture women as slaves from neighboring communities and forcibly marry them.

But they aren't politically or religiously affiliated!?! :confused:

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

Jesus Christ, Heritage. I only got the header from Facebook, but wow:


:fuckoff:

According to my Stanford alumni buddy there is no such thing as a "business major" at Stanford. Make of that, what you will.

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.

McDowell posted:

But they aren't politically or religiously affiliated!?! :confused:

"...basing our positions on human principles [of Biblical origin]."

skaboomizzy
Nov 12, 2003

There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.
HGTV cancelled the pilot of a show about flipping houses because the two hosts are the usual brand of horrible right-wing fundies. Bristol Palin is leading the outrage train on FB. It's funny the way this "free market of ideas" tends to work sometimes, right?

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*

rightwingwatch.org posted:

As leader of OSA, Benham has condemned the interfaith Sandy Hook memorial, protested in front of mosques while shouting “Jesus Hates Muslims” and blamed the Aurora shooting on the Democratic Party, which he said promotes a “culture of death.”

He has also protested LGBT pride events, interrupted church services during a sermon by “sodomite Episcopalian bishop” Gene Robinson and was found “guilty of stalking a Charlotte abortion doctor after passing out hundreds of ‘wanted’ posters with the physician's name and photo on it.” OSA* even blamed the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on abortion rights.

Christ, these assholes deserve a lot worse than just getting their dumb show pilot cancelled.

skaboomizzy
Nov 12, 2003

There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.
Good catch, and thanks. I didn't know they were THAT terrible.

agarjogger
May 16, 2011
Oh my god. Oh my God. How in gently caress's name did this guy suppose he was going to hide this poo poo? HGTV had absolutely no choice, so they can hardly be condemned for making one.

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun

Hazo posted:

Haha I checked out the website for that girl's hate group
There is no :rolleyes: big enough. Just be honest that you're right-wing shills.
Are they named after noted Catholic philosopher and vociferous opponent of abortion Elizabeth Anscombe?

EDIT: holy poo poo I totally forgot about her claim in "Contraception and Chastity" that if contraception is moral, then same-sex marriage is okay.

(surprise! She thinks both are wrong)

Ghost of Reagan Past fucked around with this message at 06:47 on May 9, 2014

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

Found this in GBS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ6bUfOVf1g

It's from Answers in Genesis so I assume you're meant to support the creationist dad, but from the trailer he just seems like an evangelical jerk who has no idea what he's talking about compared to the guy who actually researches and teaches evolution for a living. :shrug:

Barudak
May 7, 2007

skaboomizzy posted:

HGTV cancelled the pilot of a show about flipping houses because the two hosts are the usual brand of horrible right-wing fundies. Bristol Palin is leading the outrage train on FB. It's funny the way this "free market of ideas" tends to work sometimes, right?

Huh I wondered what happened to that program. Good to know I don't have extra reasons to get pissed while watching HGTV beyond it being filthy house porn and seriously lady you can't throw a shitfit at the contractor for telling you your house has illegal wiring.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

agarjogger posted:

Oh my god. Oh my God. How in gently caress's name did this guy suppose he was going to hide this poo poo? HGTV had absolutely no choice, so they can hardly be condemned for making one.

You'd think they'd have done the background research on those guys before deciding to produce a show with them.

agarjogger
May 16, 2011

Jason Benham posted:

"For us to take credit for building a successful business would be like a shovel taking credit for digging a hole. We're simply the tools God chose to use to build a successful business."

These guys say this poo poo all the time, and I only ever hear it as a humble-brag, almost invoking divine blessing on their wealth. Anyone familiar with the evangelicals, what's going on here?

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

Mercury_Storm posted:

quote:

As leader of OSA, Benham has condemned the interfaith Sandy Hook memorial, protested in front of mosques while shouting “Jesus Hates Muslims” and blamed the Aurora shooting on the Democratic Party, which he said promotes a “culture of death.”

He has also protested LGBT pride events, interrupted church services during a sermon by “sodomite Episcopalian bishop” Gene Robinson and was found “guilty of stalking a Charlotte abortion doctor after passing out hundreds of ‘wanted’ posters with the physician's name and photo on it.” OSA* even blamed the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on abortion rights.

Wow what the gently caress?



Are you kidding me? Take a look at these motherfuckers!

:smugdog: :smug:

God isn't real because these guys aren't covered in boils.

Centripetal Horse
Nov 22, 2009

Fuck money, get GBS

This could have bought you a half a tank of gas, lmfao -
Love, gromdul

agarjogger posted:

These guys say this poo poo all the time, and I only ever hear it as a humble-brag, almost invoking divine blessing on their wealth. Anyone familiar with the evangelicals, what's going on here?

If your business is divinely blessed, literally nothing you do can possibly be wrong. You are exceptional and deserve success and wealth, otherwise God would've chosen a different shovel. Your employees deserve minimum wage, and deserve to be abused and treated like poo poo. Otherwise, God would not have hired them to work in His business.

I am not saying that these people necessarily treat their employees like poo poo, only that it's okay if they do, because God.

skaboomizzy
Nov 12, 2003

There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.

agarjogger posted:

These guys say this poo poo all the time, and I only ever hear it as a humble-brag, almost invoking divine blessing on their wealth. Anyone familiar with the evangelicals, what's going on here?

God is a for-profit deity. Why else would he ask for 10% of your earnings?

agarjogger
May 16, 2011

Centripetal Horse posted:

If your business is divinely blessed, literally nothing you do can possibly be wrong. You are exceptional and deserve success and wealth, otherwise God would've chosen a different shovel. Your employees deserve minimum wage, and deserve to be abused and treated like poo poo. Otherwise, God would not have hired them to work in His business.

I am not saying that these people necessarily treat their employees like poo poo, only that it's okay if they do, because God.

Hmm, this makes the Kingdom of God out to be a pretty lovely organization to be a part of. Christian Dominion worst dominion. Or none of these motherfuckers believe a word of their own religion, and actually challenge the authority of god more than I could ever hope to as a secular atheist.
Anyone else?

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

SedanChair posted:



Wow what the gently caress?



Are you kidding me? Take a look at these motherfuckers!

:smugdog: :smug:

God isn't real because these guys aren't covered in boils.

Yeah - it wasn't merely that these guys had some right wing views or something. They're batshit crazy bigots.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
There was a quote from William S. Burroughs:

"If you’re doing business with a religious son of a bitch, get it in writing. His word isn’t worth poo poo, not with the good Lord telling him how to gently caress you on the deal."

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

Jesus Christ, Heritage. I only got the header from Facebook, but wow:


:fuckoff:

Really getting sick of this right wing homophobes strategy of claiming to be victims of 'intolerance' when people call them out on their gay-bashing bigotry or they face consequences for it. I'd like to find a suitable way to efficiently torpedo it whenever if it comes up in a succinct and eviscerating manner.

agarjogger
May 16, 2011

Spacedad posted:

Really getting sick of this right wing homophobes strategy of claiming to be victims of 'intolerance' when people call them out on their gay-bashing bigotry or they face consequences for it. I'd like to find a suitable way to efficiently torpedo it whenever if it comes up in a succinct and eviscerating manner.

What they are basically asking for is freedom from criticism, which is already granted liberally to anyone who doesn't open their mouths in public. The persecution they seek relief from is the feeling of fear they feel before spouting their insane ideas, because they know that every time they do it in mixed company, they get ostracized. It would also be especially great if companies would defy the profit motive and cease to hide the bigotry of its management from the public. They demand three rather significant things, that are granted to pretty much no one under any circumstances. These expectations could come only from a privileged group.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
Is that giant blue Bitcoin logo on USA Today's website a normal feature or is it just there because of the story it links to?

Rexicon1
Oct 9, 2007

A Shameful Path Led You Here
I've gotten to the point where I can barely watch more than 10 minutes of anything about climate change before I start to want to flay my own skin and strangle the person talking about it.

As a scientist watching journalists pontificate about "why does the climate change study think it's the last word on climate change. You don't see people saying 'well this Is the end point of microbiology' haha isn't this silly!"

NO ONE FUCKINGSAIDTHAT THATS NOT HOW ANY OF THIS WORKS. YOU PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY CAPTAIN PLANET VILLAINS NOW.

e: Bill Nye is the closest thing I can consider as a martyr on this by subjecting himself to the endless waves of madness that erupt towards him in the hopes that he gets through to some people. Watching Sippy Cupp try and catch him with a pointless gotcha by asking "well cows produce the most greenhouse gases should we all be vegetarians? :smug: :smug:" Would have put me over the edge enough to fly across the table at her.

Rexicon1 fucked around with this message at 09:10 on May 9, 2014

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

Spacedad posted:

Really getting sick of this right wing homophobes strategy of claiming to be victims of 'intolerance' when people call them out on their gay-bashing bigotry or they face consequences for it. I'd like to find a suitable way to efficiently torpedo it whenever if it comes up in a succinct and eviscerating manner.

Call them cowards and tell them that it's the rhetorical equivalent of using a little girl as a human shield. You're not going to change their mind or convince them they're in the wrong, but you can at least do something that might get under their skin by challenging their manhood. It helps that it's a completely accurate comparison.

rkajdi
Sep 11, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

skaboomizzy posted:

HGTV cancelled the pilot of a show about flipping houses because the two hosts are the usual brand of horrible right-wing fundies. Bristol Palin is leading the outrage train on FB. It's funny the way this "free market of ideas" tends to work sometimes, right?

Oh Christ. Looks like Bristol is turning into the hill filth version of Andy Schlafly (less successful conservative troll of an infamous parent). God help us when Palinpedia shows up.

tote up a bags
Jun 8, 2006

die stoats die

rkajdi posted:

Oh Christ. Looks like Bristol is turning into the hill filth version of Andy Schlafly (less successful conservative troll of an infamous parent). God help us when Palinpedia shows up.

I for one am excited about starting flamewars over which is a more legit OTP: Palin/Ryan or Palin/Cruz

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Spacedad posted:

Really getting sick of this right wing homophobes strategy of claiming to be victims of 'intolerance' when people call them out on their gay-bashing bigotry or they face consequences for it. I'd like to find a suitable way to efficiently torpedo it whenever if it comes up in a succinct and eviscerating manner.

You should'nt be sick of it, you should relish it.
Its the last wall of defense they have. Its the 'no, you are' nonsense kids do, not smart enough to have a proper retort so try to deflect it back.
And only those with similar thoughts believe what they say anyway, these lovely arguements don't win them more fans or followers.

If you want to eviscerate them, ask them which one will turn out to be actually gay at sometime in the future.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Rexicon1 posted:

I've gotten to the point where I can barely watch more than 10 minutes of anything about climate change before I start to want to flay my own skin and strangle the person talking about it.

As a scientist watching journalists pontificate about "why does the climate change study think it's the last word on climate change. You don't see people saying 'well this Is the end point of microbiology' haha isn't this silly!"

NO ONE FUCKINGSAIDTHAT THATS NOT HOW ANY OF THIS WORKS. YOU PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY CAPTAIN PLANET VILLAINS NOW.

e: Bill Nye is the closest thing I can consider as a martyr on this by subjecting himself to the endless waves of madness that erupt towards him in the hopes that he gets through to some people. Watching Sippy Cupp try and catch him with a pointless gotcha by asking "well cows produce the most greenhouse gases should we all be vegetarians? :smug: :smug:" Would have put me over the edge enough to fly across the table at her.

This, I have no idea how a scientist hasn't said something along the lines of "you are a loving idiot and are deliberately trying to mislead people with this unrelated crap." Its bad enough I'd be willing to bet a first grader could point out the dumb in their arguments. The best part of that video is where sippy cup challenged Nye to look her in the eye and say climate change is an issue then she looks shocked when he does it.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

Azuth0667 posted:

The best part of that video is where sippy cup challenged Nye to look her in the eye and say climate change is an issue then she looks shocked when he does it.

I honestly can't figure out where she was trying to go with that. Did she think he wouldn't?

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Chantilly Say posted:

I honestly can't figure out where she was trying to go with that. Did she think he wouldn't?

I think that like Michael Scott she thought it was a cool, dramatic thing to say and didn't think anything past that.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Chantilly Say posted:

I honestly can't figure out where she was trying to go with that. Did she think he wouldn't?

I think she was trying to discredit him by claiming that his priorities weren't properly aligned. I have a hard time believing she's stupid enough to think he wouldn't have done it. However that look she gave convinced me she is either that dumb or a drat good actor. I do like how Nye basically told the heritage dude that he was only there because of the kickbacks paid from the fossil fuel industry.

Acute Grill
Dec 9, 2011

Chomp
Since Nye is an advocate for a bunch of other science and education-related issues, I assumed she was thinking he'd back off and give a politician style non-committal answer (e.g. "Uh, well, I didn't say it was the most important but for many people...").

Acute Grill fucked around with this message at 14:51 on May 9, 2014

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
Bill Nye is an effective advocate because he's spent his entire adult life in the media, S.E. Cupp should know better than to play that kind of game with a guy who was talking about science on television when she was still wearing pigtails.

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MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Spacedad posted:

Really getting sick of this right wing homophobes strategy of claiming to be victims of 'intolerance' when people call them out on their gay-bashing bigotry or they face consequences for it. I'd like to find a suitable way to efficiently torpedo it whenever if it comes up in a succinct and eviscerating manner.

I've figured that since most of those types are all about "hating whiners" and "not being a pussy", mocking them for being precisely that should at least shut them up for a while. Trying to do anything more dignified is really just a waste of time and effort on your part.

Also, with regards to global warming and other sciency subjects, I recommend people watch the documentary A Flock of Dodos. It's about the evolution/"intelligent design" debate, but it goes a bit into why scientists are pretty terrible when it comes to fighting the anti-science crowd. It's because they don't have a pr firms to help promote their findings while countering whatever anti-science is trying to say and are pretty much incapable of filling the role themselves

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