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QuintessenceX posted:I feel like there was some discussion from Rich Thomas or someone high up awhile ago on why that website was wildly inaccurate when it comes to Exalted. Still, it sounds like the final phase of playtesting is happening and that means we're probably about 2-3 months out from a pdf, I'd imagine. Yeah, while that June release date is probably going to be joke, this is the last stages of finishing up the game and there aren't going to be anymore six month delays, and a summer release is likely.
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NutritiousSnack posted:a summer release is likely. I want you to be so right! I have been working on story lines for exalted and just holding out till 3rd Edition to use them. Of course, things may change with the canon. Either way, I just want that sweet PDF to hit the doors of all us people eagerly waiting. Imagine if you can the recruitment threads for exalted! There are going to be so many games of exalted to apply for!
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QuintessenceX posted:So has P3 of playtesting started yet? Also, have any sample evocations been released? I know that we had Volcano Cutter but we don't know the specifics of it's powers. Part 3 of Playtesting (Mental charms) has not been released yet. And as far as I can remember there have not been any sample evocations released, though I could be wrong on this front. I don't really know much about the exact time frame it takes to release material once it has been finished, but I would be surprised if Ex3 was released before July and maybe even August at the current pace. Edit: To add a little more content to this post, according to Mørke's latest GoFundMe update he is feeling better and the entire charm set is nearly complete bar Craft. NIV3K fucked around with this message at 10:32 on Apr 29, 2014 |
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GimpInBlack posted:Also repeating over here: For folks who aren't down with the crunch-heavy rules approach Exalted has always taken (and by all accounts will continue to take in 3E), I've been working on a Cortex+ hack of the game, taking Fantasy Heroic Roleplaying as the base (but with some inspiration from Cortex+ Drama and Cortex+ Action). TG goons are a smart bunch, I'd love some feedback. I've just read this over and it's really fantastic. My only questions are why you put medicine under the Eclipse's proficiencies, and why you cut War. In regards to the Crime Excellency, you say it can be used to assist the running of "large-scale criminal enterprises", but that capability's not expressed in any of your Crime Charms. Also, here's how I'd distribute your Caste abilities: DAWN CASTE Brawl, Melee, Ranged ZENITH CASTE Endurance, Inspiration, Leadership TWILIGHT CASTE Making, Medicine, Occult NIGHT CASTE Acrobatics, Crime (Includes stealth), Investigation ECLIPSE CASTE Bureaucracy, Socialise, Travel I wish I could offer some criticism on the mechanics - I'm not too familiar with Cortex+ - but I like what I see and the work's appreciated! P.S. I've done plenty of work on my Exalted Hack for anyone who's been following it. It's not done yet, but I'm getting there!
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Bigup DJ posted:I've just read this over and it's really fantastic. Thanks! Bigup DJ posted:My only questions are why you put medicine under the Eclipse's proficiencies, and why you cut War. I cut War mainly because I didn't want to deal with a mass combat system when I was writing the hack, and because I felt like Brawl, Melee, and Ranged were the most important distinctions for fighty Excellencies. Moving Medicine to Eclipse was for a few reasons. They needed a third Excellency since Bureaucracy and Socialize collapse into Negotiation while Ride and Sail collapse into Travel. Linguistics never really felt broad enough to be a whole Excellency on its own, so its Charms got folded into other Excellencies. Meanwhile, Twilight had four really good Excellencies in the form of Occult, Medicine, Investigation and Making. None of those really collapsed down in a way I liked, so after thinking about it for a while I decided that "wandering physician" was a strong enough concept that it warranted giving Medicine to the Eclipse. Bigup DJ posted:In regards to the Crime Excellency, you say it can be used to assist the running of "large-scale criminal enterprises", but that capability's not expressed in any of your Crime Charms. That's a description of when you can apply your Excellency dice to a roll. Large groups and organizations in Cortex+ are handled just like characters, so basically any Charm can be used on anything from one dude yo a mob of dudes to a Guild branch office. Likewise, you can use any Charm that fits on any action that includes your Excellency, so most of them can apply to large scale criminal enterprises. Bigup DJ posted:Also, here's how I'd distribute your Caste abilities: Hmm... I kinda like merging Crime and Stealth, but I was intentionally avoiding having Socialize and Bureaucracy as separate Excellencies. Because of how the system handles organizations and crowds, I don't want two Charmsets that do basically the same thing, just against individuals vs. against groups. Especially with paring down the Excellencies to three per Caste, it feels redundant. Giving Nights Investigation makes them even more the Batman Suns, which I'm not opposed to. On the other hand, taking it away from Twilights kinda pigeonholes them more as the wizard Caste, which I'm not as sure I like, and giving them back Medicine returns us to the problem of Eclipses only having two Excellencies--and that's not even getting into how a change in Excellency spreads ripples out to the Terrestrials and the Sidereals.  Bigup DJ posted:P.S. I've done plenty of work on my Exalted Hack for anyone who's been following it. It's not done yet, but I'm getting there! Cool! I'll try to check it out this weekend when I'm not phone posting from France. GimpInBlack fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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A couple posts from the "Ask a Playtester" thread over on WW:quote:Just as a general response to unasked questions, the biggest issues I have had in 3e are related to 2e. I get bits of stress going into combat as a left over from mental associations with 2e's combat. I under-plan, because while things were slow and painful in Ex2, the systems are so fast and smooth for 3e in comparison there is some 2e related chunk of my brain that tells me that fighting off a bunch of blood apes will take hours upon hours of time. So I don't always have enough material for when the players go off on a new derail direction. quote:I am in much the same boat with 2e. I will throw out a warning that the mechanics are quite different from 2e and 1e... one of the things I still have headaches with. They're not really like anything I've encountered before in any White Wolf/OPP/CPP/storyteller game. Since they're from a white wolf forums poster they should be taken with a grain of salt, but it's still pretty encouraging w/r/t combat being usable. The bit about the mechanics not really being like 1e/2e/Storyteller-in-general at all is interesting, I'm assuming he's referring to more advanced mechanics than the "assemble a dice pool based on your points in a stat + skill" bare metal stuff.
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I've said this before, but I'm eager to see how well the intimacy/social mechanics of E3 work in World of Darkness.
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That sounds like good feedback. The game should be smooth for new players to pick up, and combat and social stuff both should be completely different from 2e to the point where 2e strategies make no sense, or only make sense for completely different reasons. The whole time I have been hoping the new Exalted is not too mechanically similar to 2E or the 1E nostalgia edition. But, at this point, I have heard quite a lot from playtesters and just want to see and try out the system myself.
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I have a weird question, have their been any good kung fu/anime fast action games like Exalted wanted to be?
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NutritiousSnack posted:I have a weird question, have their been any good kung fu/anime fast action games like Exalted wanted to be? Exalted never wanted to be a fast game - it's always been crunchy as hell.
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NutritiousSnack posted:I have a weird question, have their been any good kung fu/anime fast action games like Exalted wanted to be? Legends of the Wulin is ok
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Kenlon posted:Exalted never wanted to be a fast game - it's always been crunchy as hell. I should have said fast action I guess, I just mean games that emulate hand to hand combat or more 'fluid' weapon combat to simulate martial arts and action anime. Swagger Dagger posted:Legends of the Wulin is ok Check up on that now.
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Thanks for the cross-post comments! I don't browse the WW forums so this is indeed uplifting news. I do hope a PDF comes out in July as unlikely as it is. I am very excited about this, can't wait for all the forum games that will pop up too. We'll need a new Trad sub section for all the Exalted games.
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Swagger Dagger posted:Legends of the Wulin is ok It's kinda clunky, though, and EOS press is such a fuckup I doubt we'll ever get any supplements... I can't even get a physical copy of the book... Wuxia Fantasy is a genre that doesn't get enough love in rpgs. As far as I know, the only published games are Qin (which is low fantasy), Legends of the Wulin, Tianxia (FATE core based), Exalted and maybe Feng Shui.
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NutritiousSnack posted:I have a weird question, have their been any good kung fu/anime fast action games like Exalted wanted to be? I have fond memories of Jade Empire, if we are including games of the video variety. It was kind of wuxia KotOR
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NutritiousSnack posted:I have a weird question, have their been any good kung fu/anime fast action games like Exalted wanted to be? For all it's flaws, I think Asura's Wrath is as close as it gets to Exalted in vidjagame form as it gets.
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For everyone who's interested in The Argent Witches Lunar rewrite (eg. Me), Revlid's done new content + a full redraft for it here.
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Reward surveys are out.
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thatbastardken posted:Reward surveys are out. For some maybe. Must be doing them in waves.
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Oh huh, I probably should have come up with a sweet Exalted name for this by now. I'm betting they they probably won't print "Killfuck Soulshitter" and that's all that's coming to mind at the moment. I guess I'll just use my actual name like a boring person.
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Yeah that's what I did, gently caress putting some dumb fictional name in. Invincible Sword Princess didn't put my money in the kickstarter.
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LGD posted:Oh huh, I probably should have come up with a sweet Exalted name for this by now. I'm betting they they probably won't print "Killfuck Soulshitter" and that's all that's coming to mind at the moment. I guess I'll just use my actual name like a boring person. Dique of the Western Buttes
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Hmmm, think "Dickus who flies through the Buttes" is better.
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:Hmmm, think "Dickus who flies through the Buttes" is better. Lord Weed of the Bonerhilters.
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RPZip posted:Lord Weed of the Bonerhilters. *sigh* Do you even know the naming conventions of Exalted characters? *whispers* Boring troll...!
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Excellent. I, Justcalltheability Brawlorunarmed, have received and completed my survey.
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Ferrinus posted:Excellent. I, Justcalltheability Brawlorunarmed, have received and completed my survey. Never change.
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Wait, reward surveys are out? I backed this book to the tune of 500 dolla dolla bills and I haven't gotten anything. What tier's have gone out already?
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I was a poor plebian who only backed at the $110 level and I got my survey at around ~3pm today.
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QuintessenceX posted:Wait, reward surveys are out? I backed this book to the tune of 500 dolla dolla bills and I haven't gotten anything. What tier's have gone out already? Yeah same here. Bought the gold book made of gold and stuff. No email.
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Probably going to send out your survey with a gold embossed art preview of the Scroll of Swallowed Darkness 2.0 or something.
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Sending out KS surveys is awful and probably will take until tomorrow night to finish.
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I ain't got no kickstarter survey, just a bunch of horseshit on Holden's facebook saying how crafting's allegedly fun now and he wants to make a cool guy who crafts and fixes poo poo through application of mechanical engineering and basic programming, like this drat game wasn't already ninety percent voxel slingers in the main when it comes to the tabletop and online gaming ecologies!  Maybe next it'll be an open-world zombie sim, you chucklefucks! Perhaps you can integrate a roguelike procedural generator and some hats!
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God forbid the man talk about something he's excited about on his Facebook page.
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Stephenls posted:God forbid the man talk about something he's excited about on his Facebook page. This is not to say that "artifact guy" or "sorcery guy" are bad concepts, but I personally would be a lot more enthused if Holden was like "I was just playing with the diplomacy model and OH MAN IT'S COMPLETELY AWESOME. I just started a civil war in a Malfean cityscape just by chatting with Mnemon's blood ape while she went to take a piss." That would be new and different (and would get me far more curious).
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We actually don't want a system where you can easily get lolrandom results like starting a civil war in Malfeas by chatting with a blood ape for half an hour. We had that in 2e, where you could rewrite a culture by spending any two half-hour periods over the course of a year by speaking to anyone in that culture, and the result was, uh, dumb. And seriously contributed to that whole late 2e vibe of "The details of the mortal cultures of Creation are unimportant because it's all going to scatter like chaff in the face of Exalted influence anyway, so let's talk about Yozis and supernatural weirdness because at least material about that isn't just wasted wordcount that'll be rendered obsolete the first time one of the players uses Taboo-Inflicting Diatribe." This is completely unrelated to Holden and John being super-excited about a fun Craft system. That mostly comes from... well, as I said on Facebook myself, I remember the Skype conversation we all had where we tried to work out how to handle Crafts. And one of us said "Well, okay, what games have fun crafting systems?" And then the rest of us when "Um, there's... no, wait, how about... gently caress. There are no fun crafting systems, are there?" Stephenls fucked around with this message at 11:02 on May 10, 2014 |
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Stephenls posted:There are no fun crafting systems, are there? Which is a shame, because I loving love crafting. One of the best parts of tabletop fun - for me - is when someone stabs Ye Olde Badde Guye through the middle and I get to go "gently caress Yes, I made the sword that did that, that is awesome."
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Stephenls posted:God forbid the man talk about something he's excited about on his Facebook page. Gripers have to gripe. "But I wanted a red car" comes to mind. I look forward to crafting!...as soon as I get my backer survey.
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Stephenls posted:That mostly comes from... well, as I said on Facebook myself, I remember the Skype conversation we all had where we tried to work out how to handle Crafts. And one of us said "Well, okay, what games have fun crafting systems?" And then the rest of us when "Um, there's... no, wait, how about... gently caress. There are no fun crafting systems, are there?" The only good ones I've seen are ones that handwave it, like most superhero games. "I spend a point and have the thingy I need." or "I make a skill roll, get X effect I can blow during the next scene". Most of the unfun quality of Crafting systems comes from the time dilemma, where they almost invariably involve a character slaving over a forge for two days or two months or two years while the other characters get to do more interesting things. I don't expect Exalted 3e to fix that, but it always has the issue of either A) you pursue plots swiftly, in which case Builds The Things doesn't get to do much with her Craft charms, or B) the GM lets the plots halt so Builds The Things can have the year-long build session she needs just to make a 2-dot Manse for her Circle. The solution in my Exalted game was to have the PCs just hire an NPC crafter instead, who could sit at their hometown and refurbish the airship and manse and things like that instead of having a PC spend the time necessary to make those things go. They still needed to support the infrastructure and alliances necessary to make things happen, but nobody had to slave over a hot forge while the rest of the PCs sword-fought Fair Folk on a boat riding down a giant waterfall.
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Nessus posted:I ain't got no kickstarter survey, just a bunch of horseshit on Holden's facebook saying how crafting's allegedly fun now and he wants to make a cool guy who crafts and fixes poo poo through application of mechanical engineering and basic programming, like this drat game wasn't already ninety percent voxel slingers in the main when it comes to the tabletop and online gaming ecologies! And RPG elements!
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