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Galler
Jan 28, 2008


If cost of living in Ohio is anything like not-chicago Illinois then 50k allows for a pretty comfortable life and isn't too bad for a junior position. Not saying it's fantastic or anything but it's probably reasonable depending on experience. 32k is bullshit though.

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FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

guppy posted:

That isn't great pay for that role.

I make 44k as a embedded Linux Engineer. :haw:

Although it IS a 2 man company and next project I am being bumped up to 85k.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

ratbert90 posted:

I make 44k as a embedded Linux Engineer. :haw:

You'll make more once you have resume fodder under your belt.

quote:

Although it IS a 2 man company and next project I am being bumped up to 85k.

I hope you have that in writing. Are you number two of this two man company?

The Electronaut
May 10, 2009

guppy posted:

That isn't great pay for that role.

Yea... Especially for someone with at least a secret. Now, I know there is a glut of people with clearances post Iraq and Afghanistan but still.

I made a well into six figures during my summer camp time. I'm back into six figures after retiring for three years and picking up a refresher job that paid around thirty percent less but with a completely poo poo oncall situation. Got pinged on LinkedIn about this gig about six months ago and ran with it. No oncall, had to stay late like twice in the past four months, no weekend work. This is for an org that realizes it is a multinational around the world business and it needs personnel to run it properly.

Daylen Drazzi
Mar 10, 2007

Why do I root for Notre Dame? Because I like pain, and disappointment, and anguish. Notre Dame Football has destroyed more dreams than the Irish Potato Famine, and that is the kind of suffering I can get behind.
What can I say? My company pays for poo poo when it's not the primary for the contract, and while $50k wasn't an incredible amount it certainly did allow me to live rather comfortably. Of course, that's in the past now so I'm spending most of my days studying for my VCP in the hopes something will come along. Unfortunately the only calls I've been getting are from headhunters who think I'd be a great fit for a helpdesk job in Cleveland or a desktop support role in Atlanta paying an astounding $14.50/hr

The only upside to any of this is that I get to throw yet another line on my resume about overseeing Commvault backups and doing Exchange mailbox restores. God help me.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Sickening posted:

I would have politely told him to gently caress off. Your car isn't their loving platform for advertising.

Well, we were a tiny little computer shop with 3 people, and I used my own car for the service calls, so it wasn't too out of line in theory, but when it became obvious that I wasn't going to be a billboard like his car was, he just kind of dropped it.

guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob

Daylen Drazzi posted:

What can I say? My company pays for poo poo when it's not the primary for the contract, and while $50k wasn't an incredible amount it certainly did allow me to live rather comfortably. Of course, that's in the past now so I'm spending most of my days studying for my VCP in the hopes something will come along. Unfortunately the only calls I've been getting are from headhunters who think I'd be a great fit for a helpdesk job in Cleveland or a desktop support role in Atlanta paying an astounding $14.50/hr

The only upside to any of this is that I get to throw yet another line on my resume about overseeing Commvault backups and doing Exchange mailbox restores. God help me.

I'm not suggesting it's a bad salary to live on. I'm saying your skillset is worth more.

Daylen Drazzi
Mar 10, 2007

Why do I root for Notre Dame? Because I like pain, and disappointment, and anguish. Notre Dame Football has destroyed more dreams than the Irish Potato Famine, and that is the kind of suffering I can get behind.

guppy posted:

I'm not suggesting it's a bad salary to live on. I'm saying your skillset is worth more.

I certainly hope so - I spoke with a Robert Half recruiter the other day and I'm scheduled to do a Skype one-on-one with him on Wednesday, but the little toad flat-out told me that the best I could expect with my skillset was in the $20-25/hr range, then explained that he'd love for me to make more money since that would make him more money, but in his one year of experience doing recruiting after just graduating from college with a degree in CIS it just wasn't very likely. Had to put a cork in my mouth before I told him to piss off, but it was a near thing.

Sonic Dude
May 6, 2009

Daylen Drazzi posted:

I certainly hope so - I spoke with a Robert Half recruiter the other day and I'm scheduled to do a Skype one-on-one with him on Wednesday, but the little toad flat-out told me that the best I could expect with my skillset was in the $20-25/hr range, then explained that he'd love for me to make more money since that would make him more money, but in his one year of experience doing recruiting after just graduating from college with a degree in CIS it just wasn't very likely. Had to put a cork in my mouth before I told him to piss off, but it was a near thing.

Robert Half can eat a bag of dicks. The contracts are not employee-friendly (well, contractor, I guess) and the pay is always poo poo. I only stay connected to a couple of their recruiters on LinkedIn so that I can see the jobs they post and then ask someone I know at that company if the job is worth it. It usually isn't - RH posts "systems engineer" jobs that are actually second-shift helpdesk, and other assorted shenanigans.

Come over here to Cbus! Where there's like 3 employers and everyone knows everyone.

Fellatio del Toro
Mar 21, 2009

Yeah gently caress Robert Half. I get all dressed up, pay for parking downtown, they make me fill out tax paperwork and poo poo, interview, and then tell me they're looking to fill a .NET dev position that pays... $13/hr.

Fellatio del Toro fucked around with this message at 22:23 on May 10, 2014

Cavepimp
Nov 10, 2006
My 6 month stint with Robert Half wasn't too horrible. The first contract paid ok and the second was a contract to hire that landed me my current permanent position, so it's not all bad. Totally depends on the client, I would guess.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Volmarias posted:

You'll make more once you have resume fodder under your belt.
2 years in 1 month, 5 projects.

quote:

I hope you have that in writing. Are you number two of this two man company?

I am the 2nd employee. It's technically my friend, my boss, and me. And yes, I do actually have that in writing. Feels good man. :unsmith:

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

ratbert90 posted:

I am the 2nd employee. It's technically my friend, my boss, and me. And yes, I do actually have that in writing. Feels good man. :unsmith:

So which one is the one that's an awful EE that you vent about? :allears:

(Don't answer that.)

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Volmarias posted:

So which one is the one that's an awful EE that you vent about? :allears:

(Don't answer that.)

Contract company we work with. :v:

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster
Pillbug

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

A guy with a (non brain dumped) MCSE and 12 years of experience (as long as 9 of those weren't tier 1 or something) knows so much that he can know as many or as few shortcuts as he wants.

this is the key point and the "military"

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
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Fellatio del Toro posted:

Yeah gently caress Robert Half. I get all dressed up, pay for parking downtown, they make me fill out tax paperwork and poo poo, interview, and then tell me they're looking to fill a .NET dev position that pays... $13/hr.

That can't be anything but an H1-B scam. "WHAA WHAA Uncle Sam, we just can't fill these positions so we need to hire more slaves from the orient!"

Krobar
Sep 25, 2003
President - Bob Saget Fanclub

Sonic Dude posted:

Robert Half can eat a bag of dicks. The contracts are not employee-friendly (well, contractor, I guess) and the pay is always poo poo. I only stay connected to a couple of their recruiters on LinkedIn so that I can see the jobs they post and then ask someone I know at that company if the job is worth it. It usually isn't - RH posts "systems engineer" jobs that are actually second-shift helpdesk, and other assorted shenanigans.

Come over here to Cbus! Where there's like 3 employers and everyone knows everyone.

I'll second this. People who don't like Ohio don't know Columbus. I feel bad too as I haven't been able to read this thread in a couple months, we had something at my company (in Columbus) that Daylen would have been good for, but we just hired a guy Thursday.

I will say the job market here is better than anywhere else in Ohio for tech people, just avoid Robert Half (as others have said) and I'd probably not plan on being at Chase very long if you end up there, though it is good for starting to develop contacts throughout the city.

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

Sirotan posted:

Just register for that Meraki webinar under a half dozen different pseudonyms, wifi problems solved! :v:

You just reminded me of something that has been pissing me off for a while now.

I sat through the Meraki webinar, got the email and attempted to contact the rep. Except I am in New Zealand and the rep is based in San Francisco. The webinar ended at 12PM our time which is 5PM PST. No answer on his phone so left a message with the relevant details. Also sent a follow up email. Heard nothing for a few days so sent another email and still nothing. :argh:

I really wanted that AP after sitting through an hour of hearing how awesome they are :(

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?
The new annual leave request form at my place states that you must give them a reason for having time off. Hahaha :fuckoff:

VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

Literally putting down "Personal time off".

dogstile fucked around with this message at 11:55 on May 12, 2014

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

dogstile posted:

The new annual leave request form at my place states that you must give them a reason for having time off. Hahaha :fuckoff:

Every request: "Personal Day" or maybe "I want to take a day off. That is the reason."

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

I would literally fill in "A reason"

Daylen Drazzi
Mar 10, 2007

Why do I root for Notre Dame? Because I like pain, and disappointment, and anguish. Notre Dame Football has destroyed more dreams than the Irish Potato Famine, and that is the kind of suffering I can get behind.
My response would be along the lines of "Because I am an adult and can decide if I don't feel like coming in to work" or maybe "Mental Health Day". Let them try and figure the reason then.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
"My Little Pony erotic fan art doesn't draw itself"

nitrogen
May 21, 2004

Oh, what's a 217°C difference between friends?
"Job Interview"

"filming midget scat porn"

You can see where this is going.

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA
May 29, 2008

I'm sad because I was supposed to work from home all week to finish up a project that I can't get done if I keep getting interrupted, but I have to go in today to quit because I got a newjob and now I'll probably have to come in for the next two weeks to document everything I know/do that nobody else knows about.

:toot:

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair
My reason for taking time off is "Because I have days available."

EDIT: My job doesn't ask anything, for the record. Unless there may be a delay in approval, then the boss asks if airfare or anything is on the line, which is a nice gesture.

Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 14:51 on May 12, 2014

Feral Bueller
Apr 23, 2004

Fun is important.
Nap Ghost
Reason for PTO: :911:

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?
Reason: "Need a day away from stupid loving administrative requirements that serve no useful business purpose."

It could also be fun to let them know via this mechanism when you have a medical appointment. Be sure to provide details, and remind them that because they asked, whatever process and system they're using must be HIPAA compliant. Have fun with that certification, assholes.

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
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Ynglaur posted:

It could also be fun to let them know via this mechanism when you have a medical appointment. Be sure to provide details, and remind them that because they asked, whatever process and system they're using must be HIPAA compliant. Have fun with that certification, assholes.

I like your style, but I would not trust any company with such an inane requirement to not misuse my healthcare information, HIPAA or not.

Roargasm
Oct 21, 2010

Hate to sound sleazy
But tease me
I don't want it if it's that easy
Maybe HR is collecting data to improve the workplace :downs:

Dudley
Feb 24, 2003

Tasty

dogstile posted:

The new annual leave request form at my place states that you must give them a reason for having time off. Hahaha :fuckoff:

VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

Literally putting down "Personal time off".

Our one has that box, although it's not mandatory. Because it's electronic I always post in my favourite of the day from the "Nice Gifs" thread.

mattfl
Aug 27, 2004

Man I love my bosses PTO policy. Here's how I took last Wednesday off. On Tuesday, "Hey boss, I'm gonna take tomorrow off, it's in my calendar and I've got no meetings or work due, see ya Thursday!" His response, "Alright, no problem!"

I've got 2 weeks already scheduled out in October for a vacation and he's even offered to let me make up extra time so I don't have to use all my PTO up for the trip.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?

Roargasm posted:

Maybe HR is collecting data to improve the workplace :downs:

My companies HR department is the managers and the sole admin girl who deals with handing out contracts and stuff :downs:

Crowley
Mar 13, 2003

Feels good, don't it?

:toot:

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009
Reason for requested time off:
code:
ALL WORK AND NO PLAY MAKES JACK A DULL BOY. ALL WORK AND NO PLAY MAKES JACK A DULL BOY. ALL WORK AND NO PLAY MAKES JACK A DULL BOY. 
Repeat as needed, make paragraphs or little ASCII-images of a guy with an axe or something.

Every so often I need to bail anywhere from 10-30 minutes early (riding the bus *sucks*), and my supervisor is "whatever".

Every time I take off an entire day at a time, it's :derp: "WHO WILL COVER WE NEED VOLUNTEERS EMERGENCY" :siren:.

Every time I return from taking a day or more it's :smithicide: on my end trying to clean up/catch up again.

Oh look, I'm out all next week. Luckily, I have alcohol already. And unlike ex-cow-orkers, I'll be doing my drinking at home...

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED
Reason for time off: "Feelin' fine."

And then take the completed form, put it back into the paper tray, and print out a page packed with ominous crazy sounding words and phrases (All work and no play, REDRUM, It Puts The Lotion On Its Skin, etc.) in an eggshell or very very very very pale yellow. Something visible if you really pay attention or hold it up to a light, but not to a casual skimming of the document.

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA
May 29, 2008

Crowley posted:

Feels good, don't it?

:toot:

Boo my boss left work early because of a family thing, so I can't quit face-to-face. I think I'm just going to wait until tomorrow and let him know.

Simpleboo
Oct 19, 2013

Just discovered that unlike what my supervisor had told me when I started in this dept half of the still working xp machines have not only no antivirus but some of them have Trojans and spyware. I love Mondays.

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

Dilbert As gently caress posted:

I showed an mcse how shift+right click allowed you to run as a different user. Yeah just..... Wow

But it's okay he has 12 years experience!

I remember one time I was working with two other techs from another division on a project and each one of us had a little thing like that we weren't aware of the others were. Just shows the importance of working in small teams really.

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Griffith86
Jun 19, 2008

mattfl posted:

Man I love my bosses PTO policy. Here's how I took last Wednesday off. On Tuesday, "Hey boss, I'm gonna take tomorrow off, it's in my calendar and I've got no meetings or work due, see ya Thursday!" His response, "Alright, no problem!"

I've got 2 weeks already scheduled out in October for a vacation and he's even offered to let me make up extra time so I don't have to use all my PTO up for the trip.

Pretty much how my office works.

I just say “Hey, I’m not gonna be in tomorrow, if anything comes up just shoot me an email”. He will also usually just let me take the day and not even count it towards PTO unless it’s an extended period of time (3+ days).

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