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SiGmA_X
May 3, 2004
SiGmA_X

pathetic little tramp posted:

I too have a line item for blow, but I don't think we're on the same page here.
Does yours come in ziplocks/etc? If so, probably a different concept of blow.

Nocheez posted:

I wish my wife only spent $15 on discretionary things a month. Hell, I wish that I did, too.
Srsly...

canyoneer posted:

Learn this lesson.
I learned that lesson by having $600 tied up in PayPal purgatory for 3 months and spending 12+ hours on the phone with customer service people. :suicide:
That sounds like a pain in the rear end! Maybe link a SmartyPig account (or other online savings account) to the PayPal, simple transfer and it would/could keep the savings off budget and out of mind.

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Zo
Feb 22, 2005

LIKE A FOX
Yeah paypal is super sketchy. When I was botting diablo 3 I moved around $25,000 through paypal and at one point my account got locked with a few grand sitting in it (I withdrew regularly but this was a bad moment) and I was sweating pretty hard. Luckily I managed to convince them to generously allow me access to my own money in the end.

I still keep a few hundred in paypal just because it's convenient for a lot of things, but I treat it as cash that can disappear at any time.

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


Zo posted:

botting diablo 3 I moved around $25,000 through paypal

Maybe ten years ago I worked with a dude who did this with D2 in college. Earned enough poopsocking through the summer to pay tuition for the year and played varsity rugby to get back in shape.

On the shadier side of e-commerce, at around the same time I shared a place with a guy who had an ebay habit. He'd buy a bunch of dumb stuff on it like warhammer minis or computer parts, but in a way that necessitated more buying. "Hey, this new video card I bought is PCI-E so I guess I need a new motherboard now" -> "Welp my old chipset isn't supported time for a new CPU" -> "Crap it won't fit in my old case let's see what's selling" -> "I have room for a new audio card might as well get one" -> "Cool 5.1 surround sound let's get new speakers" etc etc. Dude literally paid for a new computer part by part, paying shipping to Canada every time, and return shipping/restocking fees for the coupla RMAs that had to be processed. All so he could play some MMO all the time, which ultimately ate what little money he had directly (sub fees/buy 2 win crap) and indirectly (eating out a few times a week so he could play more). After a period of just not showing up to work he eventually lost his job and had to move away. He was otherwise a pretty cool dude and did eventually grow out of it, but that whole period was pretty :psyduck:

I think I got a free LCD monitor out of it though so I'll call it a wash.

moana
Jun 18, 2005

one of the more intellectual satire communities on the web

Zo posted:

Yeah paypal is super sketchy. When I was botting diablo 3 I moved around $25,000 through paypal and at one point my account got locked with a few grand sitting in it (I withdrew regularly but this was a bad moment) and I was sweating pretty hard. Luckily I managed to convince them to generously allow me access to my own money in the end.
No kidding. My ex played online poker and needed to use Paypal to xfer money from the sites to his bank. That was around the time Paypal froze everyone's accounts that were using other payment processors, and we ended up with $80k stuck in paypal for over 6 months before they unfroze it.

I'm the luckiest person in the world, though, and we got the cash back just in time to buy a house in 2009. Then we split up a year later and I paid him out half his share of equity in the house. Then my home value appreciated another $100k. My lucky star is as invincible as SloMo's delusions.

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost

SiGmA_X posted:

Maybe link a SmartyPig account (or other online savings account) to the PayPal, simple transfer and it would/could keep the savings off budget and out of mind.

Thanks everyone for reminding me about how lovely PayPal can be. The above suggestion is perfect as I do have a smartypig account already.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe
Yeah it's dirt simple to just open a no fee savings account at an online bank and auto transfer funds there. The ultimate in out of sight out of mind might be having it setup on the payroll side before it gets to your account. That's a pretty common recommendation for people who get raises.

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost
We're not that bad at saving or anything. My wife trusts me to make the financial decisions for our household, and I wanted to surprise her with something nice down the road.

In fact, our SmartyPig just crossed the 50% goal for our new house fund! It took 16 months, but we're getting closer every day.

Fleshpeg
Oct 23, 2001
Stop harassing me!
Me. That person is me. After playing around with an online cash flow/tracking tool from my bank on a whim, I found out my average dining+grocery costs for this year have been around $1000 per month for a single person and I'm sure it's been that way for a while. I knew I ate out a lot, but it was easy to ignore since pretty much everything is financially in-order. That's what the cost of convenience is when you don't pay attention.

I guess the moral of the story is that it's worth keeping an eye on where your money is actually going even if the sum of all the numbers ends up looking sane at the end of the month.

Paiz
Jan 14, 2004
Here's an idiot on Reddit. Dude moves, applies to a new job and quits his current job without waiting to get offer from the place he applied to. Of course it ends badly.

http://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/25k0tq/in_a_bad_spot/

quote:

Before I go further, this is entirely my fault and was result of my poor judgement.

I was making decent money. There is another company in my area that does the exact same thing as my last employer but with better pay, work environment, and benefits.

I decided to pursue that company. My family just moved the beginning of may, paid $300 day care, $650 security deposit and $700 first months rent. I had about $400 leftover.

Now, against good judgement, after I applied for the new company, I decided to leave my current job to give myself a couple weeks off. The new company constantly hires, I have experience in the field, might as well, right? Of course I'm going to get hired.

So I had my interview 5 days ago. Today got the email telling me they were not going to hire me. I'm beyond scared. My wife is not working right now. I'm scared to loving tell her. I applied for a similar job, but I'm loving scared. I have upcoming rent, internet, phone, etc to pay for, and I have about $60 in the bank and no source of income.

I am scared reddit, I don't know what I'm going to do.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
Well, I got an interview, time to kick back for a few weeks before the new job kicks in.

Golluk
Oct 22, 2008
I was always a bit nervous taking afternoons off for "appointments" (interviews), during my last job. I didn't give my two weeks until i had recieved and sent back the signed offer. Generally they ask when you can start, and that's when you give yourself a couple weeks.

Speaking of bad with money. My brother went to college for CS, graduating right at the .com crash. Then went to university for CS, right up to finishing his thesis for his masters, but dropped out. Never really working in his field, but still racking up solid 5 figure debt in student loans.

And instead of working on getting a job in his field, or paying down his debt, what money he did make beyond, and even sometimes more, he spent on comics, anime, and figurines. Resulting in multiple threats from my parents of kicking him out (still lives at home).

He just recently got some work through our dad, and spent 360 dollars on some figurines and comics. It seems he's content being low enough income to qualify for support payments that cover his interest, and a bit of principle on his loans.

Meanwhile I've paid off my loans, saved an emergency fund, and am working on getting my retirement savings going. While paying 400 R&B.

I just have to remind myself that it's better to not need the assistance he gets from our parents, but even I wanted to yell at him over that last purchase.

Golluk fucked around with this message at 21:37 on May 14, 2014

Magic Underwear
May 14, 2003


Young Orc

Paiz posted:

Here's an idiot on Reddit. Dude moves, applies to a new job and quits his current job without waiting to get offer from the place he applied to. Of course it ends badly.

http://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/25k0tq/in_a_bad_spot/

If this stupid motherfucker has $60 in his bank account, how was he planning on surviving the two weeks+ until the first paycheck at the job he assumed he would get?

Devonaut
Jul 10, 2001

Devoted Astronaut

Paiz posted:

Here's an idiot on Reddit. Dude moves, applies to a new job and quits his current job without waiting to get offer from the place he applied to. Of course it ends badly.

http://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/25k0tq/in_a_bad_spot/

Holy poo poo. I just can't believe that's real.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Reading it, it sounds like he left his old job after applying to the new one, not even getting the interview. If so, :stare:

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
it's like seeing a computer you want to buy on ebay and selling your old one before placing the bid

oh I'll just head on down to the job store and try on another

Xenocides
Jan 14, 2008

This world looks very scary....


Magic Underwear posted:

If this stupid motherfucker has $60 in his bank account, how was he planning on surviving the two weeks+ until the first paycheck at the job he assumed he would get?

Payday loan silly. :)

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





Jeffrey posted:

it's like seeing a computer you want to buy on ebay and selling your old one before placing the bid

oh I'll just head on down to the job store and try on another

No it's worse because not having a computer for a few days is a inconvenience. not having a job with $60 in the bank is life ruining.

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


Strong Sauce posted:

No it's worse because not having a computer for a few days is a inconvenience. not having a job with $60 in the bank is life ruining.

Without computer how would you place bid?:ironicat:

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

Strong Sauce posted:

No it's worse because not having a computer for a few days is a inconvenience. not having a job with $60 in the bank is life ruining.

Well yeah, different order of magnitude in impact, analogous thinking.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
It reminds me of when my brother was watching Everybody Hates Chris and at one point they really hammer home that it was the 80s - His mother says in one episode "It's OK, I'll just go down to the job centre and get myself a part time job". And I was just thinking "Yeah, like it's that easy anymore. I wish"

Also I am pretty bad with money but I finally got myself a savings account (High interest for the first year but the catch is that I can't touch it until the end of the first year in November). I currently have between £400-500 in my main account (and it kinda hovers there) but I have roughly that in the savings account as well, so it feels nice that it'll be there accruing interest for November. Also I'm on a job contract that last at least until november so I have at least got stability until then while I find something better. :)

BioEnchanted fucked around with this message at 19:03 on May 15, 2014

Oh_Yeah
Jul 4, 2009
The guy at work I mentioned prior pays $250 a week for some type of lease on his Nissan Navara. All up he would have paid around $60k for it. I can't get specific details because he is pretty unaware of the details of his loan contract, so I am not even sure what type of lease it is, but I know he was suckered into something real bad. The topic came up after he said he skipped a car payment to buy some weed and he was 'pretty high right now'...hahah.

Blue_monday
Jan 9, 2004

mind the teeth while you're going down
$250 a week? Wouldn't he be better off renting a car?!

OneWhoKnows
Dec 6, 2006
I choo choo choooose you!

Oh_Yeah posted:

The guy at work I mentioned prior pays $250 a week for some type of lease on his Nissan Navara. All up he would have paid around $60k for it. I can't get specific details because he is pretty unaware of the details of his loan contract, so I am not even sure what type of lease it is, but I know he was suckered into something real bad. The topic came up after he said he skipped a car payment to buy some weed and he was 'pretty high right now'...hahah.

If that's right and it really is $250/week, then that averages out to $1083.33 mo. Tell your friend he could have financed (to own) a Tesla Model S at that price.

GAYS FOR DAYS
Dec 22, 2005

by exmarx

Oh_Yeah posted:

The guy at work I mentioned prior pays $250 a week for some type of lease on his Nissan Navara. All up he would have paid around $60k for it. I can't get specific details because he is pretty unaware of the details of his loan contract, so I am not even sure what type of lease it is, but I know he was suckered into something real bad. The topic came up after he said he skipped a car payment to buy some weed and he was 'pretty high right now'...hahah.

Are you somewhere overseas? There's no way we're talking US dollars here, right? I'm assuming you're somewhere in Asia since you called it a Navara.

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
It has to be another country. I've never heard of a Navara so I looked it up. Here's the first line of the Wikipedia entry:

quote:

Nissan Navara is the name for the D22 and D40 generations of Nissan pickup trucks sold in Asia; in North, Central and South America and the Philippines it is sold as the Nissan Frontier.

What the gently caress is up with the weekly payments? I thought only places like Rent-A-Center charged per week.

Hip Hoptimus Prime
Jul 7, 2009

Ask me how I gained back all the weight I lost by eating your pets.
Can't remember if I've already posted here, but my sister in law is horrific with money. Her and her husband both live in the black hole of Detroit and refuse to leave because "everything is here!" She's constantly posting on Facebook about being broke but they refuse to do anything to change their situation like move or go to school so they can work better than poo poo jobs, etc.

They don't have a lot of debt, but they never have any money because any extra money they do have goes to stupid poo poo and booze/weed/cigarettes. I'm not fundamentally against vices like that, but if straits are that dire, I would think one could prioritize a little bit better. I'd love to go vacation in Colorado and legally use weed, but the difference is that my husband and I each have real jobs where we pay our bills, save money, and therefore have wiggle room for some recreational vice fun.

Also, my SIL just had a miscarriage (which in normal instances I would find to be very sad and stuff--so I'm not completely heartless, I swear!) but if they can't afford to take care of themselves I don't know how they'd raise a baby. Since neither of them has a good job I know they'll be part of the crowd that doesn't pay medical bills and makes costs go up for everyone else and they'd probably be asking for money and baby items too. My husband even tried to explain to her on the phone that for now, it might be for the best even if it doesn't seem that way. I feel bad because when I was growing up my parents never touched any money that was mine. If I got gift money I had my own bank account. When I had a part time job in high school/college I didn't have to give my paychecks to my parents so they could put food on the table. I was just encouraged to save it toward college or traveling or something I wanted to do for myself. My husband's family is completely different--his dad, my SIL and SIL's husband all would ask for money if they smelled it, so we really have to downplay the things we do so that they leave us alone. Before my husband wised up, they took really horrible advantage of his paycheck (which being lower enlisted Army isn't exactly rolling in cash).

In fact, I had to block SIL on my Facebook just so that when I go traveling next month for about 3 weeks, she isn't calling us asking us to send money because I can "afford" to do that (my plane ticket was $240, hostels I'm splitting with a friend and I'll pay about $100/week, street food and grocery I'll only need about $15/day in Central America, so VERY cheap trip where I'll probably spend just over $1,000, and I have an online job so I'm taking no time off work to pay my way, but they're ignorant and don't know these things).

I didn't mean for this to be so long, sorry about that! It's just annoying to deal with.

a podcast for cats
Jun 22, 2005

Dogs reading from an artifact buried in the ruins of our civilization, "We were assholes- " and writing solemnly, "They were assholes."
Soiled Meat

GAYS FOR DAYS posted:

Are you somewhere overseas? There's no way we're talking US dollars here, right? I'm assuming you're somewhere in Asia since you called it a Navara.

It's not inconceivable really. VAT included, the Navara can reach €35-40K in Europe, which at times isn't that far removed from US$60K.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Hip Hoptimus Prime posted:

In fact, I had to block SIL on my Facebook just so that when I go traveling next month for about 3 weeks, she isn't calling us asking us to send money because I can "afford" to do that (my plane ticket was $240, hostels I'm splitting with a friend and I'll pay about $100/week, street food and grocery I'll only need about $15/day in Central America, so VERY cheap trip where I'll probably spend just over $1,000, and I have an online job so I'm taking no time off work to pay my way, but they're ignorant and don't know these things).

Give her a small loan of $50 or so and stipulate that if she doesn't pay you back in a week, she'll never get any money again from you ever

And then you're done with her forever because she won't pay it back

fruition
Feb 1, 2014

EugeneJ posted:

Give her a small loan of $50 or so and stipulate that if she doesn't pay you back in a week, she'll never get any money again from you ever

And then you're done with her forever because she won't pay it back

What would be the point of that? She already knows the SIL is a waste of life, there needn't be anymore tests carried out to prove otherwise. People like this are so entrenched in the culture of poverty that even if they won the powerball tomorrow they'd be back to broke in two years MAX. The only thing that can help them is education and a necessity to change their ways but they sound plenty content drinking, blazing, and mooching.

Alien Arcana
Feb 14, 2012

You're related to soup, Admiral.

EugeneJ posted:

Give her a small loan of $50 or so and stipulate that if she doesn't pay you back in a week, she'll never get any money again from you ever

And then you're done with her forever because she won't pay it back

*doesn't repay loan*

*continues asking for money anyway*

Inept
Jul 8, 2003

Hip Hoptimus Prime posted:

Also, my SIL just had a miscarriage ... My husband even tried to explain to her on the phone that for now, it might be for the best even if it doesn't seem that way.

They sound bad with money, but your husband tried to tell her that having a miscarriage and losing her child was for the best? What the gently caress is wrong with him?

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007
Grimey Drawer

Inept posted:

They sound bad with money, but your husband tried to tell her that having a miscarriage and losing her child was for the best? What the gently caress is wrong with him?
Yeah not really a diplomatic thing to say.

But, I can think of a couple people in my family right now that are knocked up and definitely would be better off if they did not have a child. But you don't fuckin' say that to someone.

Inudeku
Jul 13, 2008
Congratulations Inept, your husband just told someone it's a good thing their child died. What a fantastic loving person.

moana
Jun 18, 2005

one of the more intellectual satire communities on the web

Inudeku posted:

Congratulations Inept, your husband just told someone it's a good thing their child died. What a fantastic loving person.
Not Inept, HipHoptimus, but yes. What a loving supportive brother. How can you be so insensitive?

Space Gopher
Jul 31, 2006

BLITHERING IDIOT AND HARDCORE DURIAN APOLOGIST. LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS SHIT DON'T STINK EVEN THOUGH WE ALL KNOW IT DOES BECAUSE I'M SUPER CULTURED.

100 HOGS AGREE posted:

Yeah not really a diplomatic thing to say.

But, I can think of a couple people in my family right now that are knocked up and definitely would be better off if they did not have a child. But you don't fuckin' say that to someone.

People say that poo poo all the time after personal tragedy and loss - they just have the diplomatic sense to wrap it up in nice-sounding platitudes like "everything happens for a reason."

Rick Rickshaw
Feb 21, 2007

I am not disappointed I lost the PGA Championship. Nope, I am not.

Space Gopher posted:

People say that poo poo all the time after personal tragedy and loss - they just have the diplomatic sense to wrap it up in nice-sounding platitudes like "everything happens for a reason."

I'm hoping that "might be for the best" is a misquote.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
edit: holy poo poo, wrong thread.

VideoTapir fucked around with this message at 16:29 on May 16, 2014

Bloody Queef
Mar 23, 2012

by zen death robot
E: responded to a moved post

Bloody Queef fucked around with this message at 16:35 on May 16, 2014

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

moana posted:

Not Inept, HipHoptimus, but yes. What a loving supportive brother. How can you be so insensitive?

Well they think Detroit is some sort of black hole that no one should live in so I wouldn't take their opinions to mean anything.

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Cranbe
Dec 9, 2012
Beep boop I am BFCbot. Kill all infant humans, for they are expensive. Beep boop

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