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VJeff posted:This is the key thing that all the other Abridged parodies, including Yu-Gi-Oh, the one that started this whole nutty trend, just seem to lack: a genuine unabashed affection for the source material. All the others Abridged serieses I've watched are too busy shittalking the thing that's responsible for their existence that they forget to actually be entertaining. I felt like Yu Yu Hakusho Abridged had that similar quality -- keeping the important stuff faithful but having a lot of fun with it. I suppose it's not a coincidence that Lanipator is so heavily involved in both (Rip YYH Abridged)
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TARDISman posted:That's the big problem I have with the entire "Abridged" series thing. Everyone's so focused on cranking them out so they can get views and by getting views, they get that sweet, sweet ad revenue. The main reason Yu Gi Oh and DBZ work is that it's been long enough that people can be nostalgic about the series. You can't be nostalgic and go "Boy I remember back in the day when Attack on Titan did some crazy stuff" when "back in the day" was about 4 weeks after the episode aired. Its worth pointing out that to my knowledge, neither Yugioh or DBZ abridged get any money from ad revenues. Its actually why they started their gaming channels, in the hope that by providing some completely original content they can get money to fun their primary work.
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May 14, 2014 07:15
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I don't know about YuGiOh, but I know TFS had some major problems with takedown requests throughout the first season. I think they finally got episode 1 put back on their account sometime last year. So I can see why they're taking every precaution to emphasize the parody nature of the series and avoid any more issues.
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May 14, 2014 07:21
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Caros posted:Its worth pointing out that to my knowledge, neither Yugioh or DBZ abridged get any money from ad revenues. Its actually why they started their gaming channels, in the hope that by providing some completely original content they can get money to fun their primary work. Fair point, and that's where I actually stopped watching DBZ Abridged. I thought the whole Nappa joke was played out and just got unfunny by the time they started doing Two Saiyans Play. That combined with most of my friends jumping on it like it was Napoleon Dynamite and quoting it all the time kinda killed it for me.
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May 14, 2014 07:28
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TARDISman posted:That's the big problem I have with the entire "Abridged" series thing. Everyone's so focused on cranking them out so they can get views and by getting views, they get that sweet, sweet ad revenue. The main reason Yu Gi Oh and DBZ work is that it's been long enough that people can be nostalgic about the series. You can't be nostalgic and go "Boy I remember back in the day when Attack on Titan did some crazy stuff" when "back in the day" was about 4 weeks after the episode aired. TFS's Attack on Titan Abridged is hilarious and I will fight you if you say otherwise.
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May 14, 2014 07:58
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TARDISman posted:Fair point, and that's where I actually stopped watching DBZ Abridged. I thought the whole Nappa joke was played out and just got unfunny by the time they started doing Two Saiyans Play. That combined with most of my friends jumping on it like it was Napoleon Dynamite and quoting it all the time kinda killed it for me. Man, I didn't find Nappa funny at all and I audibly groaned when he came back as a ghost. The movie producer bit was funny though.
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May 14, 2014 08:13
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VJeff posted:Man, I didn't find Nappa funny at all and I audibly groaned when he came back as a ghost. Did you at least laugh when he showed up in the christmas special?  - Tonight you will be haunted by three ghoooooosts! And they're all me. *Pop* *Pop* Hi.
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May 14, 2014 08:16
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I thought Nappa was the funniest part of the early parts of DBZA, but eventually he leapt into his own meme form and they recognized it and downplayed him heavily over time and even point out how tired his sthick is in the Kai Abridged series. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo5Rhn8zuPA
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May 14, 2014 09:06
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^^Just realized we haven't heard from the Narrator in a long time^^Shindragon posted:We already know his Perfect Cell voice, it's gonna be glorious. Seriously? Where is that? Also, as a guy that never watched the series growing up I had no idea Bojack was an actual character. I can NOT loving wait to see if they do his movie 
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May 14, 2014 09:52
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I've never understood why Bojack is so popular. He's got a really boring character design, and what even is his deal? He's a pirate that was sealed inside King Kai's planet, or some poo poo? Zangya and Bujin were more visually interesting.
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May 14, 2014 10:13
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Ad revenue? Abridging was done way before that was even a thing to exploit, like years before Pewdepie. It's really old in internet standard.
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May 14, 2014 10:16
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Blue Star posted:I've never understood why Bojack is so popular. He's got a really boring character design, and what even is his deal? He's a pirate that was sealed inside King Kai's planet, or some poo poo? Zangya and Bujin were more visually interesting. He's not. He's just some guy Gohan got to beat the poo poo out of. Hell, I think Zangya's been in more games than Bojack.
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May 14, 2014 10:45
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Honestly I think the concept is more fun than the actual character, which is probably why the Abridged series has kept him a disembodied voice so far.
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May 14, 2014 11:34
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Triskelli posted:Seriously? Where is that? Though I do hope they do something drastic when Cell loses his cool. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 12:10 on May 14, 2014 |
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May 14, 2014 11:42
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Triskelli posted:^^Just realized we haven't heard from the Narrator in a long time^^ Voice spoilers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FETB5URGolM
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May 14, 2014 11:46
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Kild posted:Voice spoilers: God, this is going to be great. All three forms. Holy poo poo.
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May 14, 2014 12:17
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I'm still a little disappointed that Remix didn't get to do Cell since I felt he rocked the Perfect Cell voice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51bw1PXNRWo
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May 14, 2014 12:23
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I think I like Imperfect Cell better because of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uoQicKTZdg Whenever Cell's music started playing in DBZ I was like aw gently caress yeah, poo poo's gonna get real
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May 14, 2014 14:38
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Cell had amazing themes. It's kind of a shame that the very nature of an Abridged series makes it really hard to use slower paced songs, because this was just the best.
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May 14, 2014 17:21
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Mordaedil posted:God, this is going to be great. All three forms. Holy poo poo. I'm most excited for the second form, honestly. It'll be funnier than creepy-rear end Cell 1, without being like Perfect Cell and sharing a lot of Freeza's "Posh British" gimmick.
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May 14, 2014 17:25
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Captain Quack posted:Regarding the Saiyans race, they didn't seen to be a Race that trained to get stronger. They always seen, to me, a proud race of their natural "power level" and just go straight brawling sometimes get a little stronger in the process. Agreed. It's interesting that fine-tuned control of ki (being able to sense, lower/raise, or concentrate it) is virtually unheard-of to them. When your base power is already relatively overwhelming, why bother with the subtleties? The basics will suffice. Vire posted:I thought I remember a scene where vegeta was young practicing against a bunch of saibamen. So I am not sure that is true about them never training. Well, just because Saiyans are born powerful doesn't mean that they automatically know martial arts or the basics of using their ki. It would make sense that children would have to train a little bit to learn how to use their natural powers. Once they've matured, though, the idea of training probably seems unnecessary since they already outclass 99% of their potential opponents. By way of contrast, Goku was (1) naturally weak and therefore outclassed by most of his opponents, thereby requiring constant training to improve and (2) raised by people who valued training, rather than in the Saiyan culture.
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May 14, 2014 18:16
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surf rock posted:Agreed. It's interesting that fine-tuned control of ki (being able to sense, lower/raise, or concentrate it) is virtually unheard-of to them. When your base power is already relatively overwhelming, why bother with the subtleties? The basics will suffice. Yup, there is a great quote Apollo Creed says near the end of Rocky 3 that describes this well. "You fight great, but I'm a great fighter." There is a real difference. Even power wise they are about equal or nearly equal, Goku is a fighting genius, and years of actually learning how to fight paid off.
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May 14, 2014 18:38
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Cell was seriously the best villain and the best arc, especially because we'll be getting Mr. Satan soon to make things even better. And to continue the saiyan chat, I always saw it like Vegeta was just naturally gifted, so that he was dedicated to training and being strong and all that, but never really had to try to achieve things and was always on top. Goku, in contrast, as just a lowly "foot soldier", really did have to work hard to become stronger and overcome his obstacles. It's the typical shonen "Hard work and perseverance will triumph over evil" deal in its most basic form.
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May 14, 2014 19:12
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Chieves posted:Cell was seriously the best villain and the best arc, especially because we'll be getting Mr. Satan soon to make things even better. Mr. Satan will be a completely serious dedicated warrior wanting to avenge the deaths Cell caused.
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May 14, 2014 19:14
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WickedHate posted:Mr. Satan will be a completely serious dedicated warrior wanting to avenge the deaths Cell caused. He will be incredibly hilarious and you will quote everything he says.
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May 14, 2014 19:52
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They could use Mr. Satan's actual lines from the show and he'd still be second best character behind my boy Tween Gohan
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May 14, 2014 19:54
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I'm still excited for both Super Saiyan transformations Gohan will do and so annoyed at how much more content there is to cover before then.
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May 14, 2014 19:57
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surf rock posted:By way of contrast, Goku was (1) naturally weak and therefore outclassed by most of his opponents, thereby requiring constant training to improve and (2) raised by people who valued training, rather than in the Saiyan culture. And that's why there aren't Super Saiyans for a thousands of years. The Saiyans were just sitting there waiting to it naturally happen. On the other hand if you consider Broly canon it actually naturally happened.
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May 14, 2014 21:25
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Rigged Death Trap posted:He will be incredibly hilarious and you will quote everything he says. He'll have a bad case of exploding knees.
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May 14, 2014 21:33
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The one thing I can't wait to see is Krillin beaming Goku with a rock. If only to see what justification they give Krillin for even trying that.
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May 14, 2014 21:41
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Blue Star posted:I've never understood why Bojack is so popular. He's got a really boring character design, and what even is his deal? He's a pirate that was sealed inside King Kai's planet, or some poo poo? Zangya and Bujin were more visually interesting. Only bringing it up because I'm a pedantic rear end, but Bojack isn't actually sealed inside King Kai's planet. Bojack was sealed inside a star by the four Kaio's and released when King Kai died (Even though he was ressurected almost immediately. It IS however, funnier to have him be a pirate trapped inside the planet, so I let it slide for the abridged guys.
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May 14, 2014 22:00
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Dragonatrix posted:The one thing I can't wait to see is Krillin beaming Goku with a rock. If only to see what justification they give Krillin for even trying that. I sorta want them to go the Kai route and timeskip all the filler so we can get to psychotic SSJ2 Gohan as soon as possible. Like that General Tao subplot. It's alright, but I want the good stuff or it's gonna take forever.
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May 14, 2014 22:09
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Dragonatrix posted:The one thing I can't wait to see is Krillin beaming Goku with a rock. If only to see what justification they give Krillin for even trying that.  Dooooooóóóoooodge
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May 14, 2014 22:11
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I don't know how much Japan like bojack but I think a lot of his popularity in the west is mainly due to the fact that Bojack Unbound is just a really good DBZ movie. A point in his favor is that Bojack's strong but he's not invincible to the point of ridiculousness like Broly and Super 13.
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May 14, 2014 22:13
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Caros posted:Only bringing it up because I'm a pedantic rear end, but Bojack isn't actually sealed inside King Kai's planet. Bojack was sealed inside a star by the four Kaio's and released when King Kai died (Even though he was ressurected almost immediately.  King Kai never resurrects actually.
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May 14, 2014 22:26
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Blue Star posted:I've never understood why Bojack is so popular. He's got a really boring character design, and what even is his deal? He's a pirate that was sealed inside King Kai's planet, or some poo poo? Zangya and Bujin were more visually interesting. It's probably the best movie plus it's the only one that actually adds to DBZ a little rather than being a lovely side story.
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May 14, 2014 22:31
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Szmitten posted:I sorta want them to go the Kai route and timeskip all the filler so we can get to psychotic SSJ2 Gohan as soon as possible. I'm pretty sure Kai kept Krillin hucking a rock at Goku just for shits and giggles.
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May 14, 2014 22:41
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Petiso posted:
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Spiritus Nox posted:I'm most excited for the second form, honestly. It'll be funnier than creepy-rear end Cell 1, without being like Perfect Cell and sharing a lot of Freeza's "Posh British" gimmick. What's going to help, too, is that Semi-Perfect Cell does almost nothing but get his rear end kicked any time he's on screen. Seriously, Tien, Vegeta, Trunks, Gohan- even Goku fucks his last-ditch suicide maneuver. The guy was basically a punching bag, and it's going to be hilarious in abridged.
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Sticky Keys Man posted:What's going to help, too, is that Semi-Perfect Cell does almost nothing but get his rear end kicked any time he's on screen. Seriously, Tien, Vegeta, Trunks, Gohan- even Goku fucks his last-ditch suicide maneuver. The guy was basically a punching bag, and it's going to be hilarious in abridged. Not to mention being the source of the other old as balls internet meme associated with DBZ shoop da whoop
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