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MassRafTer posted:Austin wasn't planned to be THE GUY in 96, but he was in the second half of 97 and was being kept really really strong because of it. Sometimes the long term plan works like with Hogan/Savage, sometimes it doesn't like Hogan/Warrior, and sometimes all the pieces are there long term like with Sting, they just need to be arranged in the right positions. Then at the end you kick the board over because chess is stupid. But I don't get it. Which piece in chess' only purpose is to be double crossed? Or did this analogy fall apart like a chinese motorcycle? Chess might be stupid.
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21 Hoot Salute posted:That article mentioned the possibility of Sting's team before Piper's team became a thing. I'd guess Savage and DDP with someone else and doing the Savage turn a month later but I can't think of anyone for that final spot other than maybe Giant. That would mean Giant wouldn't be on team WCW though, although he hadn't become Lex Luger's best friend yet so it might work.
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Cromulent posted:I loved Piper as a kid but I think everything he's done in the last 20 years has been horrible and cringeworthy. That TNA/Russo "shoot" where he accused him of killing Owen, but then throwing in his stock lines from 1985 ("Just when you've got the answers, I change the questions"). Terrible stuff. His podcast is pretty funny. And sometimes his twitter does weird poo poo.
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ChampRamp posted:I don't think it was previously reported, but it appears Lee Marshall died of esophageal cancer
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LividLiquid posted:Meltz said it in the obit. He was a heavy smoker. I knew it said that he was a heavy smoker, but I'm 99% sure he didn't give a cause of death. E: My mistake ChampRamp fucked around with this message at 00:23 on May 9, 2014 |
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Last week's Observer posted:Marshall’s death was attributed to cancer of the esophagus. He was 67. Marshall was well known as a heavy smoker. This week we learned about his career as King News on an LA rap station. 1990 article posted:On a recent morning, King News reported how the "gangbang b.s." was behind a shooting during a graduation party in Norwalk in which one youth was killed and nine wounded. "Oh, yeah, you gang bangers sure know how to party," he said sarcastically... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJD1oDKKMdM
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Daniel Bryan posted:If you want to hear a little bit about how Bischoff ran things in WCW, listen to Part 2 of Austin's interview with Eric. Eric credits Turner wanting Thunder as the time he said "We're finished." I find that hard to believe. Bischoff is pretty notoriously full of bullshit on just about anything he talks about ever.
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I thought Bischoff always said Thunder was a bad idea for the sensible reasons that you're paying talent you already can't afford even more to do another TV show and overexposing your stars. He also claims it made their balance sheet look even worse because Turner wouldn't pay for the production.
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coconono posted:Overexposing talent? Like running Hulk Hogan well past his sell-by date? Doing Piper/Hogan so many times you can't even keep the matches straight? Listen Eric Bischoff has a deep, deep respect for the business and I won't hear otherwise 
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Tonight, witness the fall out from the Great American Bash 97! Did anyone have elevated liver enzymes? Will DDP seek his revenge? What will happen with Piper and Ric Flair? Will Sting come back from his home planet? Find out tonight! Episode 1 features: Wrestling Observer Newsletter MOTY 1997: MORTIS VS GLACIER Malenko vs Chavo La Parka vs Super Calo Syxx vs Rey for the CW title Ultimo Dragon vs Chris Jericho PLUS THE NITRO DEBUT OF VICIOUS AND DELICIOUS AND SO MUCH MORE! Episode 2 features: Public Enemy vs La Parka and Damien 666 Alex Wright vs Chris Jericho Steiners vs Harlem Heat Hector Garza vs Villano IV Chavo challenges for the CW title Pro Wrestling Torch MOTY 1997: MONGO VS KONNAN Glacier and Ernest Miller vs High Voltage and your main event DDP VS SCOTT HALL! PLUS SO MUCH MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tune in at 8 PM for Nitro, 7:30 for Cowboy Who? and maybe stuff after? http://www.psp-tv.com/r/BadMoviesWorseWrestling
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Q_res posted:Bischoff's entire post-WWE existence has been pulling whatever he can out of his rear end to justify why it wasn't his fault WCW went down in flames. Problem being, it was, even more so than Russo. Not according to the poll.
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Mongo doesn't suck as much as I remember him sucking. His finisher is a tombstone piledriver which is always cool.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Mongo doesn't suck as much as I remember him sucking. His finisher is a tombstone piledriver which is always cool. Nah he's still pretty lovely. He's earnest though and trying very hard.
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fatherdog posted:Giving a tombstone piledriver to someone as clumsy and inexperienced as Mongo doesn't strike me as having been the best of ideas. This is the same company that made him an announcer. Best of ideas are not something they believed in.
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fatherdog posted:Giving a tombstone piledriver to someone as clumsy and inexperienced as Mongo doesn't strike me as having been the best of ideas. No you see it's a joke because he never got to spike the ball because he was a defensive tackle
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Vince Russo did a Q&A with the usual bullshit, but it features WCW, so if you want a good laugh: http://www.pyroandballyhoo.com/thank-enjoy/
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quote:14. Who actually came up with the idea for David Arquette to win the World Title? LMAO
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Wow, they didn't take out any of the placeholders haha. I love the "Personal Thank You" Edit: I love Vince Russo "While all the shows were bounced off Vince for final approval, Vince never changed what Ed and I wrote. He just “tweaked” some things within the segment. If Vince is “the filter”, than how do you explain where ratings are today, compared to when Ed and I were writing the show?" Yeah and what about WCW's ratings Russo? hahah
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quote:72. Do you read the dirt sheets? If so, any favorites? That says a lot.
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epitasis posted:how did someone this illiterate edit a magazine he looked at the pictures.
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I'm guessing by the domain name that Russo was the one that came up with the phrase "pyro and ballyhoo" which is actually still being used in Raw scripts to this day. Does he still have Rihanna slideshows on his site? And also the "Are you sure you want to leave this page?" message when you try to leave. Cromulent fucked around with this message at 21:25 on May 14, 2014 |
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quote:I regret not standing up for myself more. I regret keeping my mouth shut and taking every barb and criticism that was thrown my way. I regret allowing myself to be the whipping boy for everything. But as I said earlier—on many occassions I have chosen to eat ****, because there was/is a higher power that I have to answer to. Yes, poor humble, quiet, Vince Russo. Always known for keeping his mouth shut!
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79. Do you have any pet peeves when it comes to pro wrestling? YES—naking referees look STUPID. I think that is ridiculous in 2014. There is NO EXCUSE for it—ZERO. I also hate when storylines, angles, characters, aren’t followed theough with. Another huge pet peeve of mine is when characters don’t stay true to THEMSELVES–meaning atht will do things that in retrospect their characters would never do. DRIVES ME CRAZY!!!
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...so the original Snitsky character ("It wasn't my fault!") was modeled after Russo, or the other way around?
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oldpainless posted:Hey you weren't there when this interview took place. You have to understand "Bro I HAD to answer that way. I HAD to rbo!"
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oldpainless posted:Hey you weren't there when this interview took place. You have to understand
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3/17/10 Observer funquote:Piper's interview largely made no sense as usual, first knocking Howard Stern (don't know if Stern said something about Piper on 3/10 when Hogan & Rodman were on his show), then got mad at the WWF, mentioning them by name but not Jim Ross by name. During the Hart-Smith match the previous week, Ross was knocking WCW calling them the seniors tour, the over-40 promotion and mentioned that he didn't believe there were any wrestlers in the WWF with one hip. Piper called the WWF liars saying that when he was there last year and beat Goldust, that he only had one hip then. He then ripped on his critics, and boy were there many, for knocking his friends saying he'd never turn his back on his friends and be a fair-weather friend because people said bad things about them (which was ironic since the whole idea of the interview segment was for him to eventually drop them from the match). Piper also said that the WWF was right about being no one hip wrestlers in the WWF, saying that there isn't one hip wrestler in the entire WWF and that's why everyone watches WCW pay-per-views and not WWF's (ironically, the two sides are still pretty much equal on PPV, it's Monday Night TV ratings where WCW has the big edge). quote:Disco Inferno (Glen Gilbertti) was fired on 3/4 when he refused to do a program which would have ended with him putting over Jacquelyn in the single match at Uncensored. The vast majority of the wrestlers were totally in support of Disco on that one and felt that putting over a woman in a singles match was a career killer. quote:Randy Anderson, who along with Arn Anderson (no relation although the two have been friends going back to their high school days more than 20 years ago) are both from Rome, GA originally, was given the key to the city and the Mayor called him Pee Wee Hermann instead of Anderson. quote:At the American Film Market '97 which is going on this week, only two movies with wrestlers were screened. "Bad Pack," a Magnificent Seven knockoff, stars Roddy Piper along with bodybuilder Ralf Moeller and is said to be no good (shocker, huh?). The other was Hogan's "Santa with Muscles," whose first screening attracted all of seven people and whose second screening attracted zero. quote:Ted Turner wasn't at the 3/3 Nitro in Atlanta because 1) An office assistant died and he was attending her funeral; 2) He was out of town on business and canceled at the last minute; or 3) He didn't want to do it and sent Harvey Schiller in his place. They are keeping the possibilities of doing something with Turner alive in the storyline. quote:Latest Jerry McDevitt quotes on Mark Madden. McDevitt said that Madden is to journalism what Heidi Fleiss is to dating and said, "What does it have to do with journalism when you are deliberately lying" in regard to Madden using the Pennsylvania reports shield law to protect his sources in the WWF lawsuit against WCW.
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oatgan posted:79. Do you have any pet peeves when it comes to pro wrestling? Vince Russo hates himself so much.
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