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If comic book time bothered me at all, the last couple of issues of Mighty Avengers would've given me an aneurysm.
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twistedmentat posted:I've been reading the Cable and Hope adventures, but holy gently caress Bishop. I hate how he's a "Don't worry guys, all the horrible poo poo i'm doing has a really good reason, but i'm not going to tell you because that would make you try to stop me, but trust me when I say I need to kill this baby and most of the population of the planet" guy. At least with the killing most of the population thing, he figured it wouldn't matter because once he killed Hope that future would be undone and those people would never get killed. Morality can get weird with time travel- you're doing evil things to achieve (in his mind) a good outcome, but part of that good outcome is those evil things never happening.
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May 9, 2014 06:40
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Gavok posted:I haven't seen anyone mention how laughably terrible Origin II's ending is. Hey don't you be mocking Beerfest and the Landfill move. It's fantastic when done with a straight face*! *= See Mobile Suit Gundam 00, where they open the second season with a full on Landfil, replacing one of the deceased characters with his never before mentioned twin brother.
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May 9, 2014 12:33
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Or Smallville pulling it with Jimmy Olsen.
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May 9, 2014 12:55
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Sefer posted:At least with the killing most of the population thing, he figured it wouldn't matter because once he killed Hope that future would be undone and those people would never get killed. True, but its really annoying how through all of Messiah Complex Bishop is trying to kill baby hope and just keeps trying to explain his actions by saying "She's going to destroy everything!". I'm into X-force now where they go to Cables time and meet Deadpool who's even crazier than normal.
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May 9, 2014 17:49
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Did anyone read No More Humans? I quite enjoyed it. It was fun.
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May 9, 2014 18:32
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Good news: Wood is off X-Men after #17. Bad news: He's being replaced by loving Marc Guggenheim UGGGGGGGGH.
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May 9, 2014 20:30
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Just put that book out of its misery. Please, Marvel.
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May 9, 2014 20:41
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Like they don't have anyone else they can call up? Carey just did an OGN for them. Liu? Some new up and coming writer? Anyone!
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May 9, 2014 20:47
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krakagar posted:Did anyone read No More Humans? I quite enjoyed it. It was fun. I liked it, but I am sick unto death of Beast As Moral Compass when he's pretty clearly abandoned any claim to such by, you know, breaking time.
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May 9, 2014 20:50
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Suben posted:Like they don't have anyone else they can call up? Carey just did an OGN for them. Liu? Some new up and coming writer? Anyone! New and upcoming writer? Well you get either Humphries, Bunn or Hopeless then  And despite having a run of bad issues I think the concept of an all girl X-Men team is something they should keep around on principle.
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May 9, 2014 20:50
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If only Marvel had some talented and comparatively underworked female writers already on-staff that they could give the all-female X-book to. Oh, they have two of them? Wait what
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May 9, 2014 20:53
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Suben posted:Good news: Wood is off X-Men after #17. Maybe we will get the Guggenheim that writes Arrow.
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May 9, 2014 23:07
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I love Mike Carey so I bought that OGN and it was pretty cool, I haven't read a main X-Book since he left, sticking to side titles, but it was nice to get my one Cannonball line. I am seriously sick of Salvador Larocca, though, what a waste of the larger format.
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May 10, 2014 00:03
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Suben posted:Good news: Wood is off X-Men after #17. Is that good news because it got terrible or because of the stuff that came out about him? I stopped reading after the Battle For The Atom, for no good reason, but I liked it up to that point. Especially the issue with Jubilee and Wolverine hanging out. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 00:35 on May 10, 2014 |
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May 10, 2014 00:30
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I've liked Adjectiveless, probably more than Uncanny, but I think I'm the only one.
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May 10, 2014 00:35
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Hakkesshu posted:I've liked Adjectiveless, probably more than Uncanny, but I think I'm the only one. I like it too, but I wish they'd have some focus. A lot of the books seem to be like that; between events they are focusless. Same thing with Avengers.
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May 10, 2014 00:56
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I liked the No More Humans OGN. I have not been a big fan of Bendis's run at all (nor Wood's), so it felt like "finally, a real X-Men story again!" Though, yeah, Beast is such a sanctimonious prick that it's just absurd. I'm willing to entertain that he's specifically being written like that, i.e., the audience is supposed to think he's a prick. And it's getting a bit old having the Phoenix pop its head up every couple months or so. Each appearance is written like its such a huge deal, but its totally not because it happens constantly now. Clearly, everyone (characters and creators alike) are obsessed with the real Jean, so they should just bring her back already.
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May 10, 2014 05:00
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Good money says Bendis ends his X-Men run with the return of the real Jean Grey.
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May 10, 2014 05:13
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Neo_Reloaded posted:I liked the No More Humans OGN. I have not been a big fan of Bendis's run at all (nor Wood's), so it felt like "finally, a real X-Men story again!" I think the worst thing about it to me is that it felt like a total deus ex machina. It feels like Carey wrote himself into a corner and tacked the Phoenix to the end of the story to return things to the status quo.
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May 10, 2014 05:17
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:I liked it, but I am sick unto death of Beast As Moral Compass when he's pretty clearly abandoned any claim to such by, you know, breaking time. Also straight up willing to kill entire planets as one of the Illuminati, don't forget!
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May 10, 2014 14:02
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Rhyno posted:Good money says Bendis ends his X-Men run with the return of the real Jean Grey.
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May 10, 2014 14:18
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OK Octopus posted:Also straight up willing to kill entire planets as one of the Illuminati, don't forget! Yeah, I was trying to stick with the events happening in a single 'franchise,' so to speak, which is why I didn't mention his turn in Secret Avengers or his current New Avengers appearances... but even if there were any real grounds for Beast to be The Moral One in the X-Books (there aren't), they get neatly destroyed by his appearances elsewhere. Not exactly thrilled with Phoenix Ex Machina, either, but Moral Compass Beast just irks me with all his sanctimony.
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May 10, 2014 14:20
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Marc Guggenheim on X-Men? That's the "fan-favorite X-Men and former Amazing Spider-Man writer" Mike Marts was teasing? gently caress outta here, man. Considering what a clusterfuck Marts's last tenure was outside of Astonishing and New (which he inherited from Mark Powers), I fully expect all the non-Bendis X-books to become editorially mandated boring crap by the end of the year.
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May 10, 2014 14:28
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Rhyno posted:Good money says Bendis ends his X-Men run with the return of the real Jean Grey. I'd almost say his run would be worth it if he did but I can't see it happening. From every interview his given over the year he seems to hate the character of OG Jean. I wouldn't be surprised if Young Jean stayed around given that's the version of the character he wants. Of course it's Bendis so his run ain't going to to end for another 5/6 years or so. Also I finally read No More Humans and it was so good. The ending didn't bother me at all, somebody told Carey to do a mini event but have things back to where they were when he was finished so he did. Really wish he'd come back and do another team book.
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May 10, 2014 15:52
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I am pretty sure the whole reason he used the time poo poo in the first place is so he could have an easy way to put all his toys back in the box at the end.
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May 10, 2014 15:57
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Neo_Reloaded posted:I liked the No More Humans OGN. I have not been a big fan of Bendis's run at all (nor Wood's), so it felt like "finally, a real X-Men story again!" Beast is explicitly a sanctimonious prick, I don't know how anyone could misconstrue it. The Watcher showed up just recently with the specific purpose of telling him that. He's part of the Illuminati, for God's sake.
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May 10, 2014 19:31
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CharlestheHammer posted:I am pretty sure the whole reason he used the time poo poo in the first place is so he could have an easy way to put all his toys back in the box at the end. Nah, he did time poo poo because the original five X-Men are a great group of teen heroes. Spider-Man has always been pretty youthful even as an adult, but the core X-Men grew up way too fast. Maybe they will go back at some point, but I wouldn't mind if they stuck around, and the time travel stuff became a footnote.
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May 10, 2014 23:00
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Waterhaul posted:I'd almost say his run would be worth it if he did but I can't see it happening. From every interview his given over the year he seems to hate the character of OG Jean. I wouldn't be surprised if Young Jean stayed around given that's the version of the character he wants. Of course it's Bendis so his run ain't going to to end for another 5/6 years or so. He hated the Wasp too but he went out of his way to bring her back right at the end of his run.
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May 11, 2014 05:06
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Rhyno posted:He hated the Wasp too but he went out of his way to bring her back right at the end of his run. Yeah, but he had been the one to take her off the board; that can't be said for Jean Grey. Bendis does seem, for all his faults, to try and put all the toys back in the toybox in roughly the same condition as he got them out.
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May 11, 2014 05:10
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krakagar posted:I came here to talk about how great Cyclops was, how much fun it was to read and how touching and awkward Scott and Corsair's relationship is and how Rucka has pretty much nailed it, plus it was a whole bunch a fun and alla y'all are just complaining about eye-beam head buts and skunk girl fidelity and Jeegus priorities people this was a drat fine and drat fun X-book a++ would buy again. Finally got around reading this and oh my gosh it was such a fun read. That last page made me smile so much.
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May 11, 2014 18:41
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Teenage Fansub posted:Is that good news because it got terrible or because of the stuff that came out about him? Why not both? But in terms of pure creative, because the book took a giant nosedive in quality as soon as BotA started.
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May 11, 2014 22:12
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Show us that trick with the paper clip again Magneto! 
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May 12, 2014 05:23
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Yeah, but he had been the one to take her off the board; that can't be said for Jean Grey. Heaven forbid that the next creative team might have to make a convincing plot before they set up their own status quo. I mean, he ended his Daredevil run with Matt Murdock in loving jail. Yet he basically made his entire Avengers run absolutely meaningless by the time he was finished.
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May 12, 2014 14:24
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Rhyno posted:He hated the Wasp too but he went out of his way to bring her back right at the end of his run. Maybe he knew that Remender wanted to use her and brought her back because of that.
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May 12, 2014 14:26
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notthegoatseguy posted:Heaven forbid that the next creative team might have to make a convincing plot before they set up their own status quo.
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May 12, 2014 16:58
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Endless Mike posted:I actually wish Marvel or DC would do a DC Challenge-style book in modern times, but I realize that's incredibly wishful thinking given modern production times. Wasn't Countdown like that?
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May 12, 2014 17:04
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WickedHate posted:Wasn't Countdown like that? Not intentionally...
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May 12, 2014 17:26
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Uh wait, was Raze impersonating Laura, who then stabbed Triage, but then turned back into Laura, claimed she was being controlled, then turned into Scott, and Young Hank punched him?
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twistedmentat posted:Uh wait, was Raze impersonating Laura, who then stabbed Triage, but then turned back into Laura, claimed she was being controlled, then turned into Scott, and Young Hank punched him? That is exactly how I took it.
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