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If you want to backup your poo poo you'll need to use Helium (which is exactly what the toolkit would do, which is run adb backup). Do that. Once done you'll unlock the bootloader with fastboot which will wipe the device. Allow it to boot up (this is important now). Boot back to the bootloader and with fastboot flash a custom recovery, then with the recovery flash the superuser app of your preference.
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LastInLine posted:Tunga is right. Just install the SDK and do it the way you're supposed to. It's a matter of typing three lines. With a Mac or a Linux box it's even easier, since you don't have to mess around trying to get Windows drivers to work.
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Anyone have any idea why this happens seemingly randomly? I'm running Cm 10.2 on a Galaxy S II. It'll look fine for a while, then out of nowhere the first four characters of the labels for the home screen icons, and occasionally the menu as well get replaced by ellipsis. A reboot seems to fix it temporarily.
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Stockwell posted:Anyone have any idea why this happens seemingly randomly? I'm running Cm 10.2 on a Galaxy S II. It'll look fine for a while, then out of nowhere the first four characters of the labels for the home screen icons, and occasionally the menu as well get replaced by ellipsis. A reboot seems to fix it temporarily.
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May 11, 2014 11:19
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LastInLine posted:it's got to be the launcher. is that Trebuchet or some third party launcher? Yeah its Trebuchet, I didn't really think about the launcher being the issue for some reason. It's odd since it's been working fine for months and haven't done any updates recently. Anyways I installed Nova launcher and it seems good so far, pretty responsive compared to Trebuchet as well.
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ScarletBrother posted:Is there a way to use WiFi tether on a rooted N4 running 4.4.2? I have an unlimited data plan and I don't want the carrier to be able to detect tethering and change it. TIA. http://repo.xposed.info/module/de.makuser.nexussms
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May 12, 2014 01:38
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I got the Nexus rooted, no thanks to Helium which didn't recognize the backup files since I didn't buy their pro version. So far so good, but is there a way to permanently grant a app access? I hate having to go into Adblock every 15 minutes because it kills the internet.
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May 12, 2014 02:52
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Rirse posted:I got the Nexus rooted, no thanks to Helium which didn't recognize the backup files since I didn't buy their pro version. So far so good, but is there a way to permanently grant a app access? I hate having to go into Adblock every 15 minutes because it kills the internet. Isn't there a checkbox on the popup that says "remember this decision" or "don't prompt again" or something?
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May 12, 2014 03:56
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Vykk.Draygo posted:Isn't there a checkbox on the popup that says "remember this decision" or "don't prompt again" or something? Yeah I finally saw that and it stopped having that issue. Also thankfully while Helium failed, I did a second backup that did work.
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May 12, 2014 04:24
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Is Quiet mode working for anyone on CM 10.1? I have to configured to silent everything from 22:00-07:00 but I still head notifications in that window, toggling seems to fix it for that night but the next day the same thing happens.
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May 12, 2014 08:37
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Ashex posted:Is Quiet mode working for anyone on CM 10.1? I have to configured to silent everything from 22:00-07:00 but I still head notifications in that window, toggling seems to fix it for that night but the next day the same thing happens. I don't know what device is yours but you should try update CM to 10.2.1 stable if you can, I have it on a Galaxy S and an Asus TF201 and quiet mode works perfectly.
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Guillermus posted:I don't know what device is yours but you should try update CM to 10.2.1 stable if you can, I have it on a Galaxy S and an Asus TF201 and quiet mode works perfectly. Well shoot, I have an i9100 and 10.1.3 is the latest stable. Guess I'll keep waiting for CM11.
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Ashex posted:Well shoot, I have an i9100 and 10.1.3 is the latest stable. Guess I'll keep waiting for CM11. The "M" releases are now the "stable" apparently since CM11 M4. They touch on it a bit in the release notes for the recent M6 update: http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/cyanogenmod-11-0-m6-release There's a version for i9100, and personally on the GS4 I've been happy with CM11 since M2, so I'd recommend giving it a shot.
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wolrah posted:The "M" releases are now the "stable" apparently since CM11 M4. They touch on it a bit in the release notes for the recent M6 update: http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/cyanogenmod-11-0-m6-release I saw that in the release notes but I'm still a little hesitant to flash it. I have clear memories of CM8/9 being buggy on release and having to wait for .1 to get rid of the flakiness.
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Ashex posted:I saw that in the release notes but I'm still a little hesitant to flash it. I have clear memories of CM8/9 being buggy on release and having to wait for .1 to get rid of the flakiness. So take a backup and if it sucks you can revert? I know where you're coming from there, on my Evo I went back and forth a few dozen times both for CM7 and CM9 before they'd get stable enough to be worth switching to full time. That said a lot has stabilized in Android as a whole since then so neither I nor my housemates have done any downgrading since 4.2 on a variety of devices. Even if something does go wrong, when you have a popular device like that with a proper unlocked bootloader and custom recovery it's pretty hard to end up in a situation where restoring a backup won't solve everything in 15 minutes or less.
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wolrah posted:So take a backup and if it sucks you can revert? I know where you're coming from there, on my Evo I went back and forth a few dozen times both for CM7 and CM9 before they'd get stable enough to be worth switching to full time. That said a lot has stabilized in Android as a whole since then so neither I nor my housemates have done any downgrading since 4.2 on a variety of devices. Even if something does go wrong, when you have a popular device like that with a proper unlocked bootloader and custom recovery it's pretty hard to end up in a situation where restoring a backup won't solve everything in 15 minutes or less. I appreciate that Samsung users generally want a better experience out of their devices and CM fulfills that need, but as a Nexus user using CM by the middle of the Jelly Bean era meant buggy software with minor improvements over stock and once Xposed/GravityBox matured, I just gave up altogether. Like wolrah says though, a nandroid is but twenty minutes away if it doesn't work out.
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I feel the same about CM. I first used it in 2010 (CM7?) on a nexus one because I wanted proper arabic RTL and it was the first to have it, ran wonderfully on my phone. I stuck CM I use this phone for Work so I always try to stick with stable releases, that said M6 should be plenty stable and I've always got nandroid if it doesn't work out. Ashex fucked around with this message at 07:10 on May 13, 2014 |
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A little off topic, but can someone make a new thread for Rooting? The OP is banned and hasn't been updated in a few years.
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There was no CM8
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dissss posted:There was no CM8 Yeah, but at least it was stable.
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Rirse posted:A little off topic, but can someone make a new thread for Rooting? The OP is banned and hasn't been updated in a few years. It's just too broad a topic and would pretty much just say "Read xda for your phone's peculiarities and ask questions about rooted devices here" which isn't very informative and doesn't do anything this thread doesn't already do with its banned, old OP.
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LastInLine posted:The reason we haven't is because there isn't a common method for doing it, there isn't a single resource to point to, and there aren't common reasons for doing it. The consequences differ and use cases differ. 1) Sell your phone. 2) Buy a good phone. 3) Stop making terrible life choices. Simple  .
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Tunga posted:I did a presentation about rooting at work and at the end there was a slide on how to root non-Nexus devices. Show me your 32/64Gb sdcard, your easily removable battery or good camera 
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Guillermus posted:Show me your 32/64Gb sdcard, your easily removable battery or good camera I'm not picking on you (I remember working with you when you had the Nexus), but I'm asking genuinely.
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May 13, 2014 12:40
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LastInLine posted:Why do you need root? I mean, you have all of those things whether you root or not. Touchwiz, touchwiz...  Also titanium backup, Adblock. My Galaxy S4 is been a GPE for months now and I have the best of both worlds so rooting is still a good thing.My post was just a joke about the usual Nexus/Moto or you're inferior wich was a joke post aswell.
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I use root for Greenify, better battery stats, ad block, screenstandby to turn off screen when connected to HDMI, Titanium, to be able to find out the wi fi password if I've forgotten or its been hidden from me, and to install a custom ROM (an optimised Touchwiz ROM). All these things are useful to me and required next to no effort.
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Guillermus posted:Show me your 32/64Gb sdcard, your easily removable battery or good camera Which is a shame, because it would be trivial for other manufacturers/carriers to not make horribly locked down devices with deliberately included anti-root bullshit but there we go. Some are doing a better job than others on this side of things but even the "good" manufacturers still tend to have inconsistencies between devices, or allow you to unlock the bootloader via a nice easy official process and then you discover that rooting the thing is still an exercise in frustration. I recently rooted a Sony Xperia T where recovery partition lives inside the kernel. What the gently caress Sony.
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Tunga posted:I'm not sure how serious this post was but this was pretty much the exact point I was making at the time. If you want a simple reliable consistent rooting method then you buy a Nexus phone (even some of the GPE devices have oddities) and accept any "sacrifices" that such a decision includes. Quoting myself: Guillermus posted:Touchwiz, touchwiz... Was a joke, I'm the first that recomments a Moto G/X to my friends but warn them about the lack of SDcard slot and camera being kinda lovely compared to lets say a good Xperia. Guillermus fucked around with this message at 16:18 on May 13, 2014 |
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Guillermus posted:Was a joke, I'm the first that recomments a Moto G/X to my friends but warn them about the lack of SDcard slot and camera being kinda lovely compared to lets say a good Xperia. Anyway I think it's an interesting debate. Talking about root to a bunch of Android developers was interesting because a lot of them knew nothing about it and one of our clients is a bank who actively block rooted devices so it's pretty relevant to what we do. We had some good discussion at the end about why people want root detection, how we should respond to requests from clients for us to do it, what it really achieves, and why lots of people who root are angry XDA dorks who poo poo up the Play Store page with angry reviews as soon as you block their devices and then the client wonders why their average rating is three stars. Tunga fucked around with this message at 16:41 on May 13, 2014 |
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Tunga posted:Anyway I think it's an interesting debate. Right now all my android devices are rooted and running custom roms. Galaxy S with CM 10.2.1, Asus TF201 with CM 10.2 and Galaxy S4 GPE rom (4.4.2). If I had a nexus or motorola my only reason to root would be exposed/gb and maybe adblock. Custom roms aren't as hot now since stock android is great.
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Tunga posted:We had some good discussion at the end about why people want root detection, how we should respond to requests from clients for us to do it, what it really achieves, and why lots of people who root are angry XDA dorks who poo poo up the Play Store page with angry reviews as soon as you block their devices and then the client wonders why their average rating is three stars.
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I don't get why would any dev block rooted users. Piracy should't be the reason because non-rooted users can still install non market apks.
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Guillermus posted:I don't get why would any dev block rooted users. Piracy should't be the reason because non-rooted users can still install non market apks. Maybe it has something to do with ad blocking? There was recently some drama about a dev whose app would request root permission, then wipe the user's hosts file so it could display ads. Eventually Google banned his developer account. e: https://pay.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/24e9qs/this_app_is_asking_for_root_permissions_to_clear/ The developer removed his comments after Google banned him but he got quoted a lot. Also he apparently replied to every review in Google Play with "please 5 stars". the kawaiiest fucked around with this message at 12:36 on May 15, 2014 |
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With root it's fairly easy to go into where apps store their data and poke around changing read and write permissions on certain files to bypass trial limitations, stop ads, sometimes access premium features if the app doesn't phone home to verify things beyond what their local config files say. There are also patching apps that require root to automate removal of adsense and market verification features, so blocking root users theoretically could be a hurdle stopping folks from purchasing, quickly ripping out license verification, then requesting a refund from the Play store.
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My #1 reason for root is being able to control what apps can respond to the media button. It drives me loving nuts when I push play on my car's stereo and like 6 apps think I wanted them to start playing poo poo. Using Autostarts I have that locked down to only the Audible app. Another great feature of that Autostarts is that you can control which apps run at startup and other irritating times. Other critical stuff I can't live without is Tibu, Adblock and SetCPU to run custom kernel profiles In summary the thread title is wrong.
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the kawaiiest posted:Maybe it has something to do with ad blocking? There was recently some drama about a dev whose app would request root permission, then wipe the user's hosts file so it could display ads. This is hilariously awesome, I don't care what anyone says.
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big mean giraffe posted:This is hilariously awesome, I don't care what anyone says. I think it's a problem because he's altering system files without the user's permission. I can completely understand not allowing users who have an ad blocker installed from using their app (I think some apps do this, they have a popup that says "sorry, you can't use this app because you have an ad blocker" or something), but messing with people's system files like that without permission is a dick move.
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the kawaiiest posted:I think it's a problem because he's altering system files without the user's permission. I can completely understand not allowing users who have an ad blocker installed from using their app (I think some apps do this, they have a popup that says "sorry, you can't use this app because you have an ad blocker" or something), but messing with people's system files like that without permission is a dick move. Isn't granting root permissions to an app giving your permission for it to do exactly things like that? In any case, that's a good example of (1) why most people shouldn't root and (2) why Google's changes to SD card handling is the right idea (though here it was app modifying system, it could easily be app modifying app).
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Syrinxx posted:My #1 reason for root is being able to control what apps can respond to the media button. It drives me loving nuts when I push play on my car's stereo and like 6 apps think I wanted them to start playing poo poo. Using Autostarts I have that locked down to only the Audible app. Another great feature of that Autostarts is that you can control which apps run at startup and other irritating times. Thank you so much for this. Having the Vienna boys choir start yelling at me everytime I start my car has gotten really old (gently caress you LG)
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Syrinxx posted:... and SetCPU to run custom kernel profiles
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