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LemonDrizzle posted:That's not true - there are three outcomes that are possible and plausible: SNP 3/Labour 2/Tories 1, SNP 3/Labour 2/UKIP 1, and SNP 2/Labour 2/Tories 1/UKIP 1. The later would happen if the polls have been overstating the SNP's share, which could be the case if their ex-Lib Dems don't turn out. But I'd bet that it goes 3/2/1 with the Tories keeping their seat. ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:So the election campaigns are in full swing and I'm fully stuck in coalition hell in Portsmouth and yet this drops through my door... We always keep our promises.... to alter the UK's constitution with our single MEP. Stottie Kyek posted:The SNP just told their members to vote against a bill supporting a living wage and taking action on blacklisting and zero-hours contracts, they're not especially left-wing themselves. They make a big noise about how post-independence they'd support anti-poverty measures though, but they aren't using the powers they have right now for it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-27386503 The SNP are by no means bright-red socialists, but their track record in power and their manifesto is to the left of Labour and that doesn't look likely to change when Labour criticises benefit universalism as "something for nothing". I support the amendment in principle (despite it probably being against EU law) but as far as I can tell Labour proposed that amendment with no plans for how to fund the extra expenditure, but it would probably necessitate cuts elsewhere. twoot fucked around with this message at 22:00 on May 15, 2014 |
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Stottie Kyek posted:The SNP just told their members to vote against a bill supporting a living wage and taking action on blacklisting and zero-hours contracts, they're not especially left-wing themselves. They make a big noise about how post-independence they'd support anti-poverty measures though, but they aren't using the powers they have right now for it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-27386503 That's a shame since it was probably the most explicit statement in the summary of their EU manifesto  Everything else is the generic "we want good things to happen" crap that every party claims. Least worst option though? I really don't think I can vote for the party of  again.
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frontlineKHAAAN! posted:Right, if I see any pictures of Nige tomorrow I'll be sure to deface them. Up yours Essex Chronicle. Thing that worries me is that its indicative of the people here, and how they're likely to vote. I don't want our fat bloated toad of a tory Simon Burns, but don't want a Kipper (or God Forbid Nige himself). I'll never be able to go in a pub again  e: Argh, Esther McVey, IDS's winged monkey on QT. Evil woman. Trickjaw fucked around with this message at 22:42 on May 15, 2014 |
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Anyone who tries to get on Murdoch's good side (ie at the moment the SNP & Tories, as far as I'm aware) should be aware that doing so means you must be totally ready to bend over and accept a full on media campaign for 0 hour contracts, which is what most of the backroom staff at The Times/Sky News are on.
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:Anyone who tries to get on Murdoch's good side (ie at the moment the SNP & Tories, as far as I'm aware) should be aware that doing so means you must be totally ready to bend over and accept a full on media campaign for 0 hour contracts, which is what most of the backroom staff at The Times/Sky News are on. Doesn't seem like much of a stretch for them.
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:Anyone who tries to get on Murdoch's good side (ie at the moment the SNP & Tories, as far as I'm aware) should be aware that doing so means you must be totally ready to bend over and accept a full on media campaign for 0 hour contracts, which is what most of the backroom staff at The Times/Sky News are on. Soon it'll be nothing but citizen journalists (i.e. whatever they find doing the rounds on social media) with a permanent WE CANNOT VERIFY THE AUTHENTICITY OF THIS VIDEO graphic burning into your newfangled 'flat screen' televisions. How was it there, anyway? I always avoided that channel like the plague, and they still employ the dynamic shitehawk duo, but whenever I've seen it recently it's been surprisingly decent, going into depth and taking some critical stances on the official lines. Is there a selective Murdoch line everyone follows, or is it just full of renegades and rebels?
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Lord of the Llamas posted:That's a shame since it was probably the most explicit statement in the summary of their EU manifesto The way the BBC article puts it is that the EU regulations as they stand wouldn't allow it. It could be related to imposed austerity measures reduce how much you can raise the wage by in one go, it could be that a minimum wage rise must occur nationally and not by sector. It could also be that it would impose extra restrictions on companies attempting to take contracts as they'd have to be vetted as able to pay the new higher wage, meaning that it could impose monopolies? Basically, it makes the EU pledge make more sense: there's currently issues regarding living wage due to EU regulations, elect us and we'll try our best to fix them. Stottie Kyek posted:The SNP just told their members to vote against a bill supporting a living wage and taking action on blacklisting and zero-hours contracts, they're not especially left-wing themselves. QuantumCrayons fucked around with this message at 23:51 on May 15, 2014 |
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UKMT, font of all Correctness, could you remind me the qualifications needed to teach in the UK? I know we have teachers in the thread. A Italian friend of mine is looking to start and has asked me for the right track to point to.
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Ha. Called it a few says ago, that nice indian chap UKIP were trotting out as Small Business spokes-token (Someone here posted his archived website, and I can't remember names) has been done for having 7 illegal immigrants working in his restaurant. Andrew Neil just bagged ol' Nige on This Week with it, and Nige blamed the guy's son then said they (plural) were appealing againt Immigration about it, thus shooting himself in his foot. I wish Neil had gone for it and asked why he employs immigrants to hand out his leaflets, but there will be another day, I suppose. Mind you, as soon as Nige started wibbling, the signal went out 
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QuantumCrayons posted:They support nationalisation of public services, (generally) support a living wage (see above), universality of healthcare at the point of service and further education open to all for free. That's pretty left-wing. The SNP support anything that will give them a vote in September.
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Spangly A posted:UKMT, font of all Correctness, could you remind me the qualifications needed to teach in the UK? I know we have teachers in the thread. A Italian friend of mine is looking to start and has asked me for the right track to point to. A good bet is to check out the DfE teacher training site. It covers both entry to Initial Teacher Training or if qualified overseas what steps to take to get certified here. If your friend is going to apply for ITT, then they will need the equivalent of English and Maths GCSEs at C or above (to teach primary you also need GCSE Science at grade C), a degree (for secondary teaching it'll have to be relevant to the subject they wish to teach) at at least a pass, but you will struggle to get onto a training course with less than a 2:2 and for some courses there's a huge amount of competition. The options for actual ITT courses ranges from the traditional PGCE (university based training) to School-based training (SCITT and Teach First). SCITT tends to be run by private companies, but you approach the school first and get the school to sponsor your application. I don't know the procedures for overseas qualified teachers, except that their training/certification is very similar to SCITT except it may be very short or even just an assessment. If you go through ITT, you gain QTS after one year and then you have to do a one year probation (NQT) which is done as an employed teacher. Failing this results in being barred from teaching, so it's best to find a good school where you'll get plenty of support and a decent mentor. As far as I know, overseas qualified teachers who gain QTS don't need to go through NQT. I did ITT in 2011/12 through a company called E-qualitas, and was based in a primary school (I did the now defunct GTP) and got paid a salary to train. I would only recommend this to someone who is absolutely certain they can study on their own, I found it very difficult and wish I had gone the university route (I think the PGCE is superior for theory/support, but gives less in class experience). I've found that for instance my behaviour management is much better than most recent PGCEs but my teaching experience was limited by only training in one school (with a six week placement in a second school), whereas PGCE students get more varied classroom experience at different schools. E-Qualitas is a fairly decent trainer and they also do trainign/assessments for overseas qualified teachers, it might be worth contacting them for advice. If you have specific questions I'd be happy to try to answer them but I know there are more experienced teachers and teachers with secondary experience here too.
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Jedit posted:The SNP support anything that will give them a vote in September. Who cares why they support it? The important thing is they do support and it and they do follow through on it.
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As we know, students now have free tuition, babies have more incubators and ARE BOYS have proper body armour because all politicians mean what they say, especially with elections so close.
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KayTee posted:Golding's appearance on the Daily Politics is here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0441qzj/daily-politics-15052014 Well see we've got to give the fascists a platform and equal publicity because then everyone will see how stupid they are and make fun of them until they leave and change their ways and embrace multiculturalism in an unironic manner
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Ddraig posted:As we know, students now have free tuition, babies have more incubators and ARE BOYS have proper body armour because all politicians mean what they say, especially with elections so close.
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Ddraig posted:As we know, students now have free tuition, babies have more incubators and ARE BOYS have proper body armour because all politicians mean what they say, especially with elections so close. In Scotland, yes, possibly (since NHS funding isn't being cut as much as the English one, if at all) and not ours to deal with. As far as political parties go, the SNP are pretty centre-left and pretty good at fulfilling what they say they're going to fulfil. Other parties may have actually implemented the policies previously, but the SNP are happy to continue to support the policies' implementations.
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Ddraig posted:As we know, students now have free tuition, babies have more incubators and ARE BOYS have proper body armour because all politicians mean what they say, especially with elections so close. Remember that referendum had already been funded, so giving body armour to babies wasn't even an option and they're morally in the clear! They were just sayin', you see I hope someone runs those exact same ads against Cameron and the kippers if they keep banging on about an EU referendum
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twoot posted:The later would happen if the polls have been overstating the SNP's share, which could be the case if their ex-Lib Dems don't turn out. But I'd bet that it goes 3/2/1 with the Tories keeping their seat.
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Trickjaw posted:And, somewhere in Portsmouth, as we mock, there is someone picking that up off the mat and things "That's exactly what we need. About time!" That's one of them edits where you shrink people's faces, right?
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Mister Adequate posted:That's one of them edits where you shrink people's faces, right? No mate, it's Essex.
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QuantumCrayons posted:Who cares why they support it? The important thing is they do support and it and they do follow through on it. Except they don't and they won't. As I said in the Independence thread, the SNP took action against the Bedroom Tax in the councils they controlled while firmly opposing it in those they didn't. They only took action on the national level when forced to do so by various councils requesting the same treatment as was being given to SNP supporters.
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Global Sustainability Institute says we're going to be out of domestic oil and gas in five years. If (as I suspect) they factored in shale gas, things might get a bit awkward for the pro-fracking proponents.
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Yes, the SNP have a tendency to be shifty, cynical shites. And yet they are still a better option for Scotland than taking the risk that the Tories win in a years time, continue swinging the Axe of Austerity, driving more people into poverty, quitting the EU and god only knows what other disasters await the UK. The SNP will not get my vote in an independent Scotland. In fact the SNP need to not exist in an independent Scotland. Stop the Tartan Tories from having an influence on the less awful wing of the party by having them no longer represent the same party. They are only united by a shared desire for independence (and presumably a shared desire for power).
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Darth Walrus posted:Global Sustainability Institute says we're going to be out of domestic oil and gas in five years. We stopped mining coal for a variety of reasons but 'running out' wasnt one of them - and forecasts for oil and gas show dwindling but still present supplies in the North Sea for years to come. This sounds like alarmist bollocks. Either way though: build nuclear.
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baka kaba posted:How was it there, anyway? I always avoided that channel like the plague, and they still employ the dynamic shitehawk duo, but whenever I've seen it recently it's been surprisingly decent, going into depth and taking some critical stances on the official lines. Is there a selective Murdoch line everyone follows, or is it just full of renegades and rebels? I dunno about upper management being told what to do, I wasn't there for very long, but down on the floor we just tried to do the best, fastest (hence the But I don't think anyone gives a poo poo about the Murdoch's opinions, everybody trying their hardest Not To Get Fired and not have the channel shut down, as it's basically a pit into which BSkyB pours money for no tangible gain. Here's a good blog piece by another ex-Sky bod http://fryingpanfire.com/2010/06/skys-the-limit/ quote:Life under Murdoch, at least my erstwhile parish Sky News, is not the plot to Tomorrow Never Dies. Rupert does not have a secret phone to editorial footsoldiers on newsdesks. When I was on the foreign desk, producers invoked the muscle of John Ryley, Head of News, when they were trying to swing the editorial eye. “John’s very keen” is a line often heard. Clever editors rebut with “let’s give him a call”. (by "strong-willed stakeholders" read "total pebbledicks")
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LemonDrizzle posted:How do you figure? The last reliable poll of Scottish euro voting intentions had it at SNP 33%, Lab 31%, Con 12%, UKIP 10%, Lib Dem 7%, Other 7%. Taking those figures at face value, that means that once the SNP and Labour have taken their first two MEPs, the SNP's corrected vote share drops to 11%, so if the Tories and UKIP both poll above 11%, they take the last two seats. The Tories are already there, and UKIP may well be too given the swing they've seen elsewhere in the country since the poll was conducted last month. I had been basing my posts on the last ICM poll which had the SNP at 38.
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So... umm... gently caress it, I just don't know. ‘Nazi tattoo’ UKIP candidate in mystery powder naked photoshootquote:One of UKIP’s council candidates posed naked alongside a middle aged man poised to snort a mystery white powder from the posterior of a young woman — revealing tattoos which appear to be inspired by Hitler’s Nazi Third Reich.
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Why are news organizations keen on zero hours contracts? They're only really beneficial to employers with very unpredictable workloads - I'd have thought a daily paper or newsdesk would have a very steady flow of work and so would be better off just giving people regular contracts.
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Eggn0g posted:So... umm... gently caress it, I just don't know. All I can think of is, poor girl.
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Darth Walrus posted:Global Sustainability Institute says we're going to be out of domestic oil and gas in five years. They usually don't factor shale gas into reports like these, since it's mostly inaccessible without fracking. If anything, pro-fracking proponents will use this as an excuse to frack more. But they don't seem to know what they're on about based on their methodology, since they're just dividing known reserves by current consumption. As if consumption isn't steadily growing or anything. The actual figure is probably less than five years, unless we frack. (but yes, build nuclear)
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LemonDrizzle posted:Why are news organizations keen on zero hours contracts? They're only really beneficial to employers with very unpredictable workloads - I'd have thought a daily paper or newsdesk would have a very steady flow of work and so would be better off just giving people regular contracts. Because you don't have to mess around with disciplinary procedures if someone fucks up, you just stop giving them shifts. This is the same reason the contracts are for 13 months, you never become a permanent employee so they can fire you instantly if they don't want you.
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Given we're talking about UKIP, it would be interesting to note that surveys suggest UKIP voters aren't all disaffected Conservatives:Guardian posted:An average of 71% of Ukip voters agree with five leftwing ideological statements, far above the Conservatives (43%) or even the Liberal Democrats (65%). They are only a little behind Labour (81%). I think it's been said before that fascism is curdled socialism, but it might actually be possible to engage with these people sensibly from a left-wing position: basically Labour is to the right of its own base and people are turning to strange bedfellows. It reminds me of how in economic terms the BNP used to be to the left of Labour.
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Eggn0g posted:So... umm... gently caress it, I just don't know. That's a pretty good Stuka tattoo, tbh, most tattooists you ask for 'specific item X' and you're lucky if you get something that's the same overall genre - like you'd ask for a stuka and get a boeing 777. I'm not sure there's any potential way to get such a tattoo and it not say 'I'm a giant raging nazi' to anyone that sees it though - so probably best to get it dive bombing your anus. e: Kurtofan posted:All I can think of is, poor girl. I'm pretty sure I've seen her before in a 'lets mock porn of neo-nazis' thread.
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Obliterati posted:Given we're talking about UKIP, it would be interesting to note that surveys suggest UKIP voters aren't all disaffected Conservatives: LemonDrizzle fucked around with this message at 12:06 on May 16, 2014 |
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Nice to see we're still world leaders in unerotic pornography. 
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Eggn0g posted:So... umm... gently caress it, I just don't know.  I cannot imagine what would induce anyone to be a part of that particular poo poo sandwich. At least their appearance is consistently abhorent with their views.Uggh
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Eggn0g posted:So... umm... gently caress it, I just don't know. Its wonderful
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Obliterati posted:Given we're talking about UKIP, it would be interesting to note that surveys suggest UKIP voters aren't all disaffected Conservatives: There's been a lot of polling on this sort of thing. I think the most recent being this and this. Given that even half of Conservative voters are pro-nationalisation of the railways, it shouldn't be in the least bit surprising that a more eclectic group like UKIP would be in favour of some leftist populism. It'll be interesting to see how the party manage this in their 2015 election manifesto. The last one had full privatisation of the NHS and a flat income tax in it, which wouldn't exactly help them with working class Labour.
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