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elf help book
Aug 5, 2004

Though the battle might be endless, I will never give up
One of my monitors is always in vertical mode. :)

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DevCore
Jul 16, 2003

Schooled by Satan


JUMPMASTER :smug:



This backboard/table kills me.

Edit: Also, I fired up TBA on my PS3 the other day and holy poo poo 90% of the tables have updates that you have to individually open the game, direct to the PSN and download... It's so so so annoying. Why couldn't they release one patch that updates all the tables?

I tried going to the PSN and just grabbing them all, but they're nowhere to be found. Awful. And to add insult to injury, you can't download anything while you're playing.

DevCore fucked around with this message at 16:57 on May 14, 2014

JohnnySmitch
Oct 20, 2004

Don't touch me there - Noone has that right.
The other benefit to getting the PC version (besides portrait mode, which is awesome) is that you can pretty easily make a controller with real side pinball buttons (excuse the lovely blurry photo):

roffels
Jul 27, 2004

Yo Taxi!

Clouseau posted:

The iPad version is very good, but this season I swapped over to Steam in anticipation of the (eventual) DX11 version. I'm happy with both, but the portrait view on the iPad is excellent.

PC has portrait mode as well, for what it counts. But it's a bit of a pain for me to set-up Windows to rotate the monitor properly.

Clouseau
Aug 3, 2003

My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

roffels posted:

PC has portrait mode as well, for what it counts. But it's a bit of a pain for me to set-up Windows to rotate the monitor properly.

I'll need to play around with that, I haven't bothered with it yet.

In other news, the Medieval Madness Remake factory labor is being done on the Stern line but with Williams recreated parts and with a different QC team. Really, the most interesting thing about this news to me is that it really means that this is absolutely going to happen and probably on schedule. If it goes well for all parties involved, we'll probably see a bunch more Williams remakes entering the market.

Dre2Dee2
Dec 6, 2006

Just a striding through Kamen Rider...
I really like the iPad version the best and it's the one I play most, but I'll be damned if extra functions are a pain in the rear end to press (like Magna-Saver from Black Knight).

Doggles
Apr 22, 2007

Stern is partnering with Planetary Pinball and Chicago Gaming to manufacture the Medieval Madness remake. I imagine this'll help prevent the kinds of delays that JJP has run into with its Wizard of Oz table.

Stern's Facebook Page posted:

Planetary Pinball, Chicago Gaming and Stern Pinball announce Specialty Manufacturing Arrangement

CHICAGO, IL – MAY 14, 2014 – Planetary Pinball Supply (“PPS”), Chicago Gaming Company (“CGC”) and Stern Pinball, Inc. (“SPI”), today announced a specialty manufacturing arrangement pursuant to which SPI will make its manufacturing facility available to PPS and CGC to assemble their remake of the Medieval Madness (“MMR”) pinball game.

CGC, which has a long-standing business relationship with SPI, will assemble the game for PPS in SPI’s factory using SPI’s factory labor and production line assets. The game will be assembled with parts supplied by CGC which consist of original WMS specification parts combined with the new electronics and lighting systems designed by CGC. Final prep, packaging and shipment will be from CGC facility in Cicero, IL.

“We think this arrangement provides the best solution to insure the timely delivery of a high quality game for our customers who wish to own this legendary title” said Rick Bartlett, President of PPS.

“We have a long-standing relationship with SPI and its high capacity manufacturing operation will allow us to complete the MMR games in a timely fashion,” added Doug Duba, President of CGC.

“We’re looking forward to helping PPS and CGC exceed the expectations of Medieval Madness pinball enthusiasts,” said Gary Stern, President of SPI.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152406570289244&set=a.386178974243.167508.136972659243&type=1

Der-Wreck
Feb 13, 2006
Friday nights are for Wapner!

That's pretty exciting news. It seems like Stern's factory is pretty good at pumping out the machines with little delay and this will really benefit Planetary Pinball. Here's hoping it does cut down on smaller pinball companies running into issues with manufacturing. If this works out well, it could bode well for a lot of the smaller companies producing machines, like Dutch Pinball perhaps.

As Clouseau mentioned as well, hopefully this will lead to seeing more Williams remakes out on the market. It will give a lot of people that never got to experience the quality of Williams tables in their hey-day a new chance to try them out.

Clouseau
Aug 3, 2003

My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.
Pinside folks have pointed out that there are a bunch of Big Bang Bars going up for sale right now, so they surmised that there might be a BBB remake in the wings. That would require them to get the rights for Capcom remakes from the guy who initially remade them years back though, and that might be fairly difficult. Planetary Pinball has also mentioned that there's some other potential crazy stuff coming like a DMD'd Funhouse with new rules and other crazy remakes. I'd love to see new stuff on the market, but good on them to make a partnership that will definitely ensure their project's completion.

Also, in addition to temp files for Lights Camera Action in the steam files for TPA, there's also files indicating that High Roller Casino (2001 Stern) is also coming up soon. Never played it, I would have liked to see DE Time Machine or maybe Sharkey's Shootout.

Der-Wreck
Feb 13, 2006
Friday nights are for Wapner!

I dig the idea of revamping old machines with new amenities, like Dutch Pinball's Bride of Pin-Bot 2.0. Since they're working with established tables that already have parts, playfields and other aspects available, it's easier for these smaller companies to build something new upon the foundations of tables already made. I would like to see some new stuff too but I'm always interested in seeing what people can do to old tables. I'm excited about the prospect of seeing a DMD'd Funhouse and what they could do with it. Plus, though revamping these old machines, it may help the small companies to build up funds and assets in order to start producing their old tables. As excited as I am about Dutch Pinball's Big Lebowski table, it concerns me that they are asking for a $8500 deposit on a name and idea alone. If they aren't able to get the funds, will this table ever come out? Look at the delays Wizard of Oz suffered from. I fear that Big Lebowski may never even see the light of day. They've released mock-ups of the playfield but I would be concerned with putting down a couple grand without seeing something more substantial.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

I'm somewhat surprised about the lack of a big reproduction scene in pinball. The digital pinball scene is better than ever, and I wonder if that's driving a surge of interest in the hobby?

Niwrad
Jul 1, 2008

The Stern-MMR deal is great news. They have the resources in place to crank out machines and it keeps the lines running.

I think the rights to Capcom might be easier to acquire. The guy who owns them filed bankruptcy and might be forced to liquidate. On the other hand he's a little crazy and seems to get off on hoarding things from pinball collectors so maybe those odds are slimmer. It'd be an interesting title to reproduce but I've heard the game is really nothing special.

Der-Wreck
Feb 13, 2006
Friday nights are for Wapner!

canyoneer posted:

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man


8 thousand dollars, dude.

Lone Goat
Apr 16, 2003

When life gives you lemons, suplex those lemons.




canyoneer posted:

I'm somewhat surprised about the lack of a big reproduction scene in pinball. The digital pinball scene is better than ever, and I wonder if that's driving a surge of interest in the hobby?

Me and buddy got into physical pinball last summer solely because we were playing the free table on Pinball FX2 for a month, and we've pulled like 4-5 of our friends into it since then.

Clouseau
Aug 3, 2003

My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.
Completely anecdotally I'd say that stuff like Zen Pinball and TPA are driving a lot of people to the hobby (they reignited my love of pinball for sure), but that's not all of it. One big thing I'd say is that the generation of kids that got to play games during pinball's last huge peak in the early nineties are all in their late twenties and thirties and can now buy machines/ are excited by the prospect of pinball in a barcade. If Stern is going to cling to life during the next drop in the market, they need to make sure that their machines get somewhere where kids could get a hold of them.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

canyoneer posted:

I'm somewhat surprised about the lack of a big reproduction scene in pinball.

You mean pinball, the real-life version of which costs thousands and thousands (and thousands) of dollars to participate in? Yes, a real mystery alright.

802.11weed
May 9, 2007

no
Didn't the BBB remake use NOS boards? I wonder what a new one would use, considering that a clean capcom power driver board is 400 bucks.

I'd like to see remakes of the big classics but without toys, I can't be the only bastard who doesn't care about 'em.

In other news, I wish they'd bring Black Knight's brothers to TPA. Jungle Lord, Pharaoh and Solar Fire. I just picked up a Jungle Lord and it is very fun. The art is kind of awful but it's a great game.

Casnorf
Jun 14, 2002

Never drive a car when you're a fish
I am a dumb. Last night I bought my first pin. Now I get to go to work all day and think about what I've done.

It's Hot Shot, the four-player version of one I loved in TPA.

MarxCarl
Jul 18, 2003

802.11weed posted:

Didn't the BBB remake use NOS boards? I wonder what a new one would use, considering that a clean capcom power driver board is 400 bucks.

The Medieval Madness is using Planetary's new board sets, so i'd expect they'd just run the ROM's in an emulator on their CPU and let their new driver boards take care of the rest. Course the bigger problem is the Capcom security ROM which supposedly cannot be cracked, not sure if that can be done under emulation. This was the reason given for not running more BBB or going ahead with the Kingpin run, as they couldn't make anymore Security Roms, so no more actual Capcom CPU boards.

There could be code for Williams boards for BBB out there though, as Williams owned the rights and was thinking of running BBB between Star Wars Ep.1 and Wizard Blocks. Lyman Sheats supposedly did some code for it.

Same Great Paste
Jan 14, 2006




For Junkyard, anyone have any deep strategies? Other than avoiding assembling the toast gun for as long as possible to keep the video mode the easy one, there aren't any real protips that I can figure out or find elsewhere.

It sure "feels like" I'm missing subtleties with the table, but damned if I can figure out what they are.

JohnnySmitch
Oct 20, 2004

Don't touch me there - Noone has that right.
Me and a group of friends at work have been getting into pinball a lot lately (thanks to all the Chicago barcades that have been popping up), and we've done a few mini tournaments among us. I have access to a 3d printer, so I've made trophies for a few of them, and thought I'd share:









^ The last one is my favorite by far; I went all out and incorporated sound and lights into it - the right flipper button activates 2 pulsing RGB LEDs, and the left one plays a sound clip:

http://youtu.be/UW2QdH94oAA

Same Great Paste
Jan 14, 2006




Holy loving poo poo those are cool.

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
Nice! Should put a little ball bering in there to roll around the table.

DevCore
Jul 16, 2003

Schooled by Satan


I...I want one...

The Cheeto
Dec 14, 2011

Please watch these middle-aged men playing video games

Eegah posted:

Nice! Should put a little ball bering in there to roll around the table.

Even better you could model a 3d extruded layout of some simple shapes and stuff to represent bumpers, lanes, flippers, etc, so it has something to roll down through. You could also take the springs from some click pens and make a working plunger to shoot the ball with.

802.11weed
May 9, 2007

no
Hot drat those are neat. How big are they? I can totally see myself buying one to put on my desk.

Tony Phillips
Feb 9, 2006
Those are really great and I want one for my desk.

Squashy Nipples
Aug 18, 2007

Same Great Paste posted:

For Junkyard, anyone have any deep strategies? Other than avoiding assembling the toast gun for as long as possible to keep the video mode the easy one, there aren't any real protips that I can figure out or find elsewhere.

It sure "feels like" I'm missing subtleties with the table, but damned if I can figure out what they are.

Heh, I came to opposite conclusion based on 20 minutes of play: that the toast gun was easier, so you should rush it. Guess I'm wrong. :)

Bought the season 3 pack pretty much just to play Junkyard. Not sure if I really like the ruleset, but its got some fun shots.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

On the real machine you want to do Run from Spike once or maybe twice if you're good at it, after that you want to assemble the toaster gun.

I always start with the cuckoo clock to start the time machine mode and hope for the AFM videomode.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band
From what I've been able to find, it looks like pinballs are generally one and one-sixteenth inches in diameter, and made of (I think) polished steel. The powerball in Twilight Zone is ceramic -- are there any other games with unusual ball sizes or materials?

Niwrad
Jul 1, 2008

Casnorf posted:

I am a dumb. Last night I bought my first pin. Now I get to go to work all day and think about what I've done.

It's Hot Shot, the four-player version of one I loved in TPA.

Hot Shot is a really good EM table. Why would you feel dumb for picking it up?

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

Does Hercules using a cue ball count?

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Hercules used a pool ball for a ball iirc. But apart from that the standard pinball has been a 1 1/16" chromed steel ball for ages.

Some older games have a smaller (15/16") ball that is part of the tilt mechanism. It rests on a rail inside the cabinet, and if you lift the game it would roll forward, close a switch and cause the game to slam tilt.

Kinetic arcade games (pitch and bat games, bowling games, etc) that aren't true pinballs have used similar steel balls of varying sizes.

vvv Oh yeah, forgot about the mini-playfield on FG/Shrek

Collateral Damage fucked around with this message at 14:11 on May 16, 2014

Niwrad
Jul 1, 2008

prefect posted:

From what I've been able to find, it looks like pinballs are generally one and one-sixteenth inches in diameter, and made of (I think) polished steel. The powerball in Twilight Zone is ceramic -- are there any other games with unusual ball sizes or materials?

There is a 5/8" ball used on mini-playfields in I believe Family Guy and Shrek (probably more). Also the LE version of Avatar and Rolling Stone supposedly uses a ceramic powerball like in TZ. It's called Navi ball in Avatar and The Rolling Stone in Rolling Stone. I've never played the LE version of either though so not sure how it comes into play.

a shiny rock
Nov 13, 2009

Colorado goons, looks like there's a new place opening up on Main Street in Louisville. I saw them setting up yesterday and they had about a dozen machines in there including one EM.

roffels
Jul 27, 2004

Yo Taxi!

Collateral Damage posted:

On the real machine you want to do Run from Spike once or maybe twice if you're good at it, after that you want to assemble the toaster gun.

I always start with the cuckoo clock to start the time machine mode and hope for the AFM videomode.

I hate AFM videomode. Mamushka followed quickly by a multiball works best for me.

Squashy Nipples
Aug 18, 2007

roffels posted:

I hate AFM videomode. Mamushka followed quickly by a multiball works best for me.

Agreed, the AFM Video Mode is my least favorite part of AFM, and I LOVE AFM. I saw the extra ball once, but I couldn't get it.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Squashy Nipples posted:

Agreed, the AFM Video Mode is my least favorite part of AFM, and I LOVE AFM. I saw the extra ball once, but I couldn't get it.

I saw the cows once. But I've never finished that stupid video mode. :doom:

Niwrad
Jul 1, 2008

I really don't like video modes. I'm glad they are not appearing in newer games. The only one that seems decent is Black Rose.

If Lights, Camera, Action is the next game, that's pretty cool. When I was a kid there was one at the local bowling alley. It had these huge spotlights on top that you could set off (I think those came in all the games?). Only gripe is that I'm not sure these lower tier Gottlieb tables are worth $5 a pop. Would be nice for them to go back to $3 and use the $5 for the bigger name titles. I'll probably buy it either way as I'm a sucker for tables.

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roffels
Jul 27, 2004

Yo Taxi!

Niwrad posted:

I really don't like video modes. I'm glad they are not appearing in newer games. The only one that seems decent is Black Rose.

Dracula's wolf killing mode is pretty cool though. It's fast enough and is reflex-based.

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