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Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

vandalism posted:

spinning Santier's Spear like a madman

Clearly this incident was divine punishment for your sins.

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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Killing the spiders in Brightstone Cove is more satisfying than any enemy in either Dark souls game imo

vandalism
Aug 4, 2003

Chomp8645 posted:

Clearly this incident was divine punishment for your sins.

But I don't pvp, so I shouldn't feel bad about it!

Red Mundus
Oct 22, 2010

King of Solomon posted:

I'm starting to get really frustrated by the BoB Arena. Matches never take too long to find, but losing is loving harsh. Not only does it count against my covenant progress (I don't care too much about that, but it's stupid), but I don't get an orb, meaning I've basically wasted my time. Plus, the people in the arena are actually occasionally pretty good at PvP or have phantom range like crazy (the worst was when I got hit by a greatsword combo from what seemed like triple its range), making the duels basically impossible.

E: I just want red eye orbs man. :smith:

I strongly suspect that people are CE'ing themselves the red orbs at this point. Hell, you can do it even with VAC on and not get nabbed for it as long as you are offline. It sucks because I can't figure out why any game dev would design a system in such a way.

King of Solomon
Oct 23, 2008

S S

Red Mundus posted:

I strongly suspect that people are CE'ing themselves the red orbs at this point. Hell, you can do it even with VAC on and not get nabbed for it as long as you are offline. It sucks because I can't figure out why any game dev would design a system in such a way.

Even though it's easy to cheat them in right now, I don't really feel comfortable doing that.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Doesn't getting caught by VAC wipe out your steam account? Maybe its people who just make a new account for every game

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

I didn't know combustion had 360 degree tracking. I guess I should have used it more often. Also I don't know people complain dex weapons are weak when twinblades exist; a single combo has one shot me every single time on two characters.

e: Haha the guard break counterattack for a caestus is just a haymaker.

RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 22:54 on May 16, 2014

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Jose posted:

Doesn't getting caught by VAC wipe out your steam account? Maybe its people who just make a new account for every game

It bans you from online features on the game engine that you cheated on (Source, Unreal, etc)

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR


BobTheJanitor posted:

My guess is because it had a life regen effect (at least, if the wiki isn't lying) and they realized that people would probably keep it to just put it on and hide in a corner and wait to save their flasks.

It's not lying, but the barrel doesn't actually have any sort of special effect attached, much less regeneration. Rather unfortunate.

Paracelsus
Apr 6, 2009

bless this post ~kya

Rirse posted:

Mostly the constant homing magic everywhere, with the water slowing you down so you can't dodge them.
Roll towards the missile and to the side, or just plain walk perpendicularly to the path of the beam. Use available cover to approach whenever you can. Bows or spells make it easier to kill the Priestesses quickly. For the bit you're at, you probably want to bait out the mutated guys and draw them back to a more protected area before tackling the Priestesses they're near.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

Red Mundus posted:

Hell, you can do it even with VAC on and not get nabbed for it as long as you are offline.

No you can't. Dark Souls 2 doesn't have an offline mode in the traditional sense; the 'offline mode' in the game disconnects you from the Dark Souls multiplayer servers, but you are always connected to Steam because you need it to run the game.

turtlecrunch
May 14, 2013

Hesitation is defeat.
Presumably "go offline" means not only in DS2 but Steam overall.

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR


CJacobs posted:

No you can't. Dark Souls 2 doesn't have an offline mode in the traditional sense; the 'offline mode' in the game disconnects you from the Dark Souls multiplayer servers, but you are always connected to Steam because you need it to run the game.

Cut your internet and take Steam into Offline Mode. He is right.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

CJacobs posted:

No you can't. Dark Souls 2 doesn't have an offline mode in the traditional sense; the 'offline mode' in the game disconnects you from the Dark Souls multiplayer servers, but you are always connected to Steam because you need it to run the game.

You could unplug your modem and lose the Steam connection

E: Double beaten

Asehujiko
Apr 6, 2011

Mazed posted:

Well, it finally happened.



I caught the Emerald Herald being cute.
I never noticed that that was a coat and a shawl that happen to line up really well, I always thought it was a dress.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
I can't even find a CE for the PC. I searched for one and found a bunch of 360 ones but none for the PC, and I didn't really feel like digging through shady sites full of hackers. Not gonna risk poking around those places just for some red eye orbs.

Speaking of invasions, I just had a pretty great one. I invade the world of 'TheDiddler' in Hunstman's Copse. He's being escorted by white phantom 'Kill la Jill', and both of them are sporting greatswords. They're fighting the two undead by the start of the level, so I apply both of my buffs and charge in, trying to kill the host while they still have their hands full. I nearly succeed, but Kill la Jill starts whacking me in the back of the head with a club. Not sure where his greatsword went, Diddler chugs estus back to full, so I have to make a strategic retreat to heal.

They try to pursue me across the bridge, drawing the attention of the sickle fatty. Again I nearly kill the host, but Kill la Jill saves the day with his club again. Fatty gets gutted and now I'm at a disadvantage again. I back off but they don't follow. I look back and see that Kill la Jill is at half health. He evidently has no healing whatsoever. Meanwhile the host his disguised himself as a totally inconspicuous torch, and they're obviously trying to bait me. I respond by shoving a lightning bolt into the host, and now they come charging after me. I manage to vanquish Kill la Jill, but Diddler escapes again. To make matters worse I have low health and no healing left. I move in to try and secure the kill, but he's gone. A little later I realize he's run all the way back to the loving bonfire to summon a sunbro to protect him. Oh, and Kill la Jill is back.

Well against 3 players with almost no health, the odds are next to impossible. One hit and I'm dead. I withdraw to where the 4 torturers are, but even with their help I can't fight them. All I can do is channel lightning at them from across the path while they fight. I actually manage to vanquish Kill la Jill a second time doing this. The other two are at full though, and the only obstacle between them and the boss is me. In a desperate gambit I try to lure them onto the rope bridge, hoping I can knock them off with force spam. Sunbro chucks a sunlight spear, and I gently caress up the dodge and go tumbling off.

But I won anyways. I have no idea why but the host tried to roll after me but instead went off the bridge a second before I did. He died from the fall first, so it counted as a victory for me, albeit in the dumbest way possible. I'll take it though.

turtlecrunch
May 14, 2013

Hesitation is defeat.
If you google "cheat engine" it is literally the first result.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Lunatic Sledge posted:

Pharros is probably in there!

I hear a lot of people mention getting Frejastomped; my favorite is the beam, though! Did you know that beam goes through walls/the fog door? True story. Host walks into Freja fight, I switch something out real fast, and as I approach the fog door to follow the host... nyyyeeewww. You Have Been Vanquished. Never even got to see the stupid spider.

:allears: Okay that's hilarious

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Wow, moon butterfly cuffs/anything + dual poison caestus + flame weapon + poison knives = easy wins in pvp. Until you hit a twinblade or something faster than you anyway. And hexers can't do poo poo to me because I know all the timing from my own hexing. :getin:

zfleeman
Mar 12, 2014

I wonder how you spell Tabasco.
I just ran through Drangleic. I'm a jumpy-dodgy dex guy. Is there some better armor I should have by now other than the thief's set?

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR


zfleeman posted:

I just ran through Drangleic. I'm a jumpy-dodgy dex guy. Is there some better armor I should have by now other than the thief's set?

The Barrel. 0 weight!

If you can't get that, honestly just get whatever looks good to you. Armor barely matters in places that are not PVP.

DelphiAegis
Jun 21, 2010

Tallgeese posted:

The Barrel. 0 weight!

If you can't get that, honestly just get whatever looks good to you. Armor barely matters in places that are not PVP.

Wait, where the hell do you get the barrel?

Mazed
Oct 23, 2010

:blizz:


I only PvP with Santier's Spear if I'm invaded myself. My world, my broken bullshit twirly stick. :smug:

a real rude dude
Jan 23, 2005

zfleeman posted:

I just ran through Drangleic. I'm a jumpy-dodgy dex guy. Is there some better armor I should have by now other than the thief's set?

If you're going all out with dodging I personally would just go with what looks nice, when you're dealing with light armour the difference is so negligible, if you get hit you're pretty boned anyway, go for the prettiest and lightest.

King of Solomon
Oct 23, 2008

S S

DelphiAegis posted:

Wait, where the hell do you get the barrel?

Cheat Engine, I'd imagine. It can't actually be found in-game.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.


Goatse contraption :allears:

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Is Gavlan the only reliable source of poison throwing knives? I blew them all and I don't want to wait until the doors of pharros for more.

Flytrap
Apr 30, 2013

RBA Starblade posted:

Is Gavlan the only reliable source of poison throwing knives? I blew them all and I don't want to wait until the doors of pharros for more.

Yep.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Well poo poo. Fun while it lasted!

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

I'm Pacman Jones!
The VAC ban stuff usually gets blown out of proportion, and if people were getting banned just for using CE to give themselves some items there would probably be a whole lot of noise about it. I've run into a couple of invaders that either had their health locked at max, gave themselves 999999999 HP, or had a script that would refill their health instantly with (presumably) a button press. If those dudes are running around and playing, you're probably ok giving yourself some items.

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR


DelphiAegis posted:

Wait, where the hell do you get the barrel?

All I know is, I had to make some... sacrifices.



Losing my legs? Worth it!

Sauer
Sep 13, 2005

Socialize Everything!
I just noticed there's no boss tails to harvest in this game. You can cut the tails off of the Scorpion Queen boss but you don't actually get one as a weapon and no one else drops tails either. That was sort of fun in Dark Souls.

Edit: I have a feeling all this VAC stuff is blown way out of proportion. I've been using a hex editor to bump my SM down to reasonable levels on my oldest character since the game was released and haven't had any issues. I think its unlikely that From actually gives to many shits about cheaters in the game; they certainly didn't do much about it in Dark Souls.

Sauer fucked around with this message at 23:43 on May 16, 2014

Flytrap
Apr 30, 2013

DSauer posted:

I just noticed there's no boss tails to harvest in this game. You can cut the tails off of the Scorpion Queen boss but you don't actually get one as a weapon and no one else drops tails either. That was sort of fun in Dark Souls.

I know right? You pretty much had to build your entire character around using them (meaning that no-one ever did), but drat if i didn't collect every single one every single time.


Hmm, maybe I should actually make a dragon weapon build in 1...

Sauer
Sep 13, 2005

Socialize Everything!
Sniping the tail off of the Hellkite Dragon on the bridge in Undead Burg was a good way to set yourself up with an awesome weapon for the first half of the game. It didn't scale worth a drat though so you'd want to replace it eventually.

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR


DSauer posted:

Edit: I have a feeling all this VAC stuff is blown way out of proportion.

Well, I can tell you no one's been banned for CEing since launch.

Really, the only thing that'll settle this question is if VAC comes back.

Sauer
Sep 13, 2005

Socialize Everything!
I wouldn't be surprised if Valve called up From Software and told them, "That's not what VAC is for, knock it off chuckle fucks."

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR


The simple fact is, From chose not to use locally loaded VAC modules. Meaning that if there is any cheat detection, it is something like Cheatpunch for Rust.

Except that this is From Software. I really doubt they have the know-how to make something like Cheatpunch. Maybe Valve is lending expertise now, who knows?

Has there even been a single report of anyone getting banned for megamuling on consoles yet? That stuff would be dirt simple to detect, when you consider that eur0pa could make a tool in a day to do it.

Tallgeese fucked around with this message at 23:55 on May 16, 2014

Sauer
Sep 13, 2005

Socialize Everything!
Does server side VAC support require any actual coding or is it simply a toggle in your developer steam account? It could have just been something they turned on by mistake without having any actual support built into the game.

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR


DSauer posted:

Does server side VAC support require any actual coding or is it simply a toggle in your developer steam account? It could have just been something they turned on by mistake without having any actual support built into the game.

If you don't load usual VAC modules, you have to make your own anti-cheat which reports to Valve to issue a VAC ban.

That's really why Dark Souls 2 VAC is most likely toothless at the moment: it depends entirely on the competency of the Dark Souls 2 PC server team. You know, the one that apparently misunderstood what VAC was so badly that they seemingly just implemented a server-side check for any VAC ban and called it a day.

Not that I use KB+M for this, but don't you need an AHK script to fix issues with basic mouse clicking? That really doesn't signal well.

Tallgeese fucked around with this message at 00:10 on May 17, 2014

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Doctor Zaius
Jul 30, 2010

I say.
The mouse controls for DS2 aren't that bad... unless you want to unbind doubleclick, because if you do your character will just stop to do nothing whenever you double click.

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