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Slo-Tek posted:The food is sweet, salty, delicious, cheap and plentiful, and there is little or no infrastructure or incentive to walk anywhere, and all the manual labor jobs are done by illegals. Also the work hours are long. Being healthy is for the wealthy. If you are a blue collar schlub, you don't have time or inclination or company to make it to the gym during the work week, and your knees are probably shot from being fat anyway. I understand perfectly the socioeconomic factors that cause obesity. What I am finding harder to reconcile is the sheer cognitive dissonance they must experience given their physical state. They are supposed to be upstanding Americans who take care of themselves, who stay pure and off the drugs blah blah. If they are going to champion the realms of personal responsibility and good moral ethics, why does it not click in their heads that they have all mostly failed at one of the most important responsibilities there is. A responsibility to your own health. They beat that drum of responsibility when an addict is having trouble with cocaine. 'It were all his fault for doing them drugs, that's why he is hosed up and he deserves our scorn'. However, faced with certain health issues they are unable to reflect on themselves and see their own problems? Actually, I lurk in this thread a lot and I think that is the problem. Freepers lack any self awareness whatsoever. It's like they are championing the freedom to choose between a bad option and a good option, and then choosing the bad option every single time. Edit : and yes I agree with your student. American food is absurdly, disgustingly sweet. I cannot tolerate it. a neurotic ai fucked around with this message at 21:29 on May 16, 2014 |
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I like how they try to cover for the failure of the 'American Spring' protest by saying they would never support overthrowing the US government, even though literally every other thing they post is about overthrowing the US government. But remember: Revolt is coming.
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May 16, 2014 21:51
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Dropped by after work to see what was up at the White House, only a single rascal scooter towing a giant Texan flag and a bunch of extraordinarily silly looking people.
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May 16, 2014 22:14
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Slo-Tek posted:The food is sweet, salty, delicious, cheap and plentiful, and there is little or no infrastructure or incentive to walk anywhere, and all the manual labor jobs are done by illegals. Also the work hours are long. Being healthy is for the wealthy. If you are a blue collar schlub, you don't have time or inclination or company to make it to the gym during the work week, and your knees are probably shot from being fat anyway. Also that food is scientifically formulated in both flavor and texture to override the part of your brain that says "stop eating."
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May 16, 2014 22:21
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Can D.C. survive 'unstoppable' ice melt?quote:To: MeshugeMikey quote:To: MeshugeMikey This is potentially the dumbest thing I have ever read.  quote:To: MeshugeMikey quote:To: MeshugeMikey quote:To: oldbill quote:To: circlecity quote:To: MeshugeMikey quote:To: GGpaX4DumpedTea quote:To: MeshugeMikey quote:To: MeshugeMikey quote:To: Gamecock
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May 16, 2014 22:24
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Maybe they're trying to get the world to spin the other way by making every scientist ever roll around in their graves at once. Wow.
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May 16, 2014 22:27
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quote:quote:  For real, the sea has to rise 7000km to reach the equator. What is that, like a million miles? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ6MmhwTcX4 Anonymous was apparently involved in the OAS thing, which is cute. That would explain the Fawkes masks.
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May 16, 2014 22:37
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oldbill's post may be the stupidest post I've ever read on the internet. Ever. A triumph for Freep. 
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May 16, 2014 22:47
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Warmachine posted:oldbill's post may be the stupidest post I've ever read on the internet. Ever. A triumph for Freep. quote:To: oldbill
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May 16, 2014 22:50
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Warmachine posted:oldbill's post may be the stupidest post I've ever read on the internet. Ever. A triumph for Freep. Yeah, holy poo poo. No wonder they think global warming is a hoax, they literally do not understand science on any level whatsoever. What kind of jobs do these people have? You always hear them talking about "shoulda gone to school for a real subject, like science!" yet, clearly, none of them are scientists.
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May 16, 2014 22:52
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I dunno, no one can be that stupid. This feels like Poe's law biting you guys in the rear end.
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May 16, 2014 22:53
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ReidRansom posted:I dunno, no one can be that stupid. This feels like Poe's law biting you guys in the rear end. quote:To: oldbill; cripplecreek
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May 16, 2014 22:54
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Warmachine posted:oldbill's post may be the stupidest post I've ever read on the internet. Ever. A triumph for Freep. That post has to be a joke. I refuse to believe anybody is that stupid, my brain won't let me. It would take like 2 seconds of him thinking about what he said to make him wonder why all the people at the equator don't fall to the south pole or get flung into space and realize that his theory makes no sense.
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May 16, 2014 23:08
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Mr.Unique-Name posted:That post has to be a joke. I refuse to believe anybody is that stupid, my brain won't let me. It would take like 2 seconds of him thinking about what he said to make him wonder why all the people at the equator don't fall to the south pole or get flung into space and realize that his theory makes no sense. I took the liberty of pointing out the error in your logic.
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May 16, 2014 23:09
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Someone was asking about police attitudes towards right wing protest. Open Carry protests usually get a lot of cop videos of protesters being arrested and stuff like that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8UXEFhyBz4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g71VfyHiWPA Vahakyla fucked around with this message at 23:16 on May 16, 2014 |
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May 16, 2014 23:14
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I don't know. Sure it's absurdly stupid, but it's really not that much farther out there than the idea that Obama is a gay Muslim atheist who's been groomed from a young age to overthrow the United States by Bill Ayers as part of a global conspiracy to destroy freedom and Christianity. Also he's incompetent and can't actually talk without a teleprompter. And this is accepted by literally every single person on that forum.
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May 16, 2014 23:16
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Vahakyla posted:Someone was asking about police attitudes towards right wing protest. Open Carry protests usually get a lot of cop videos of protesters being arrested and stuff like that. Jesus, can you imagine the reaction if OWS were open carrying too? EDIT: I do just want to say that, the other week I sat down and read about the Ruby Ridge thing. While I hate just about everything about the Weaver family and their politics, it was still pretty hosed up. I was angry mostly because the behavior of the FBI and ATF ensured the existence of many of the Freepers we see today. It's like they did every single thing they could to fire up the ultra conservative crowd and create generations of conspiracy theorists. So, in a way, it's something like an example of law enforcement coming down hard on conservatives protesting. ColdSnickersBar fucked around with this message at 23:19 on May 16, 2014 |
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May 16, 2014 23:16
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Okay, back home and just uploaded 24 photos from OAS. I'm a little embarassed that they're not amazing, since I'm using an iPhone 4S, so no decent zoom at all, and also I was trying to not get too close both for safety and also to be not caught on camera with them unduly. In all seriousness, I have no problem walking about with a big "Legalize Marijuana" petition-board, since technically political advocacy isn't a problem for my clearance, but given that the clearance folks are extremely interested in the question "have you ever been affiliated with an organization which seeks to overthrow the United States Government by force?", I figured OAS gets perilously close to that categorization. I posted my photo-essay in Gibbis: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3634898 . If there's anything there better discusses here, feel free to cross-post the photo here. 
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May 16, 2014 23:20
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ColdSnickersBar posted:Jesus, can you imagine the reaction if OWS were open carrying too? Yeah. Ruby Ridge was really messed up. A guy who shot a US Deputy Marshal got away with it [As he should've]. That is how hosed up it was that it was considered justified.
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May 16, 2014 23:21
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Ocrassus posted:
That's because to conservatives "Personal Responsibility" like rules, exists to be applied to others.
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May 16, 2014 23:34
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Mr.Unique-Name posted:That post has to be a joke. I refuse to believe anybody is that stupid, my brain won't let me. It would take like 2 seconds of him thinking about what he said to make him wonder why all the people at the equator don't fall to the south pole or get flung into space and realize that his theory makes no sense. This is old as hell and not from freep, but it's one of my favorite posts ever talking about science. quote:One of the most basic laws in the universe is the Second Law of Thermodynamics. This states that as time goes by, entropy in an environment will increase. Evolution argues differently against a law that is accepted EVERYWHERE BY EVERYONE. Evolution says that we started out simple, and over time became more complex. That just isn't possible: UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying the Earth with huge amounts of energy. If there were such a source, scientists would certainly know about it.
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Vahakyla posted:Yeah. Ruby Ridge was really messed up. A guy who shot a US Deputy Marshal got away with it [As he should've]. That is how hosed up it was that it was considered justified. If something like Ruby Ridge happened again today we might actually see some poo poo from the modern militia movement. Which is, in a nutshell, probably why the DOJ are being so skittish about the Bundy folks.
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May 16, 2014 23:44
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Does anyone have that picture from Beck 9/12 rally a few years ago of all the white people lined up very respectably in front of the capitol police?
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Georgia Peach posted:This is old as hell and not from freep, but it's one of my favorite posts ever talking about science.
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May 16, 2014 23:47
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I am honestly surprised at the lack of Confederate flags in those pictures.
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The Rokstar posted:I am honestly surprised at the lack of Confederate flags in those pictures. It can't be purely coincidence, I would imagine that either word was spread on their forums or Facebook, and/or that their "Security" teams approached anyone with Rebel flags and told them to stow that poo poo so they wouldn't look backwards. Didn't even see any of the Southern state flags which coincidentally happen to have stars-and-bars. The flags I saw: regular American, the "III" 3%er American flag, might've been an Old Glory 13-star flag, tons of Gadsen flags ("don't tread on me") on poles, t-shirts, everything. The "Christian flag" you see in one photo, the apparent Anonymous flag, a few state flags (most visibly Maryland's epilepsy-provoking monstrosity), a "Connecticut Militia" flag, Teas flag, and a number of the "Come and Take It" Gonzales flags.
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:It can't be purely coincidence, I would imagine that either word was spread on their forums or Facebook, and/or that their "Security" teams approached anyone with Rebel flags and told them to stow that poo poo so they wouldn't look backwards. Didn't even see any of the Southern state flags which coincidentally happen to have stars-and-bars. Isnt having a three percenter flag basically saying "Why yes, I am a nazi."?
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May 17, 2014 00:48
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Berke Negri posted:Isnt having a three percenter flag basically saying "Why yes, I am a nazi."? Not really? It's a reference to a right-wing myth that 3% of colonials actively fought the British government.
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Berke Negri posted:Isnt having a three percenter flag basically saying "Why yes, I am a nazi."? no you're thinking of the 1% biker guys. The 3% thing is supposed to represent the 3% of colonists who actively fought in the Revolution. Not even going into how dubious that number is, they are literally comparing themselves to Revolutionary War soldiers.
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May 17, 2014 00:53
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I wonder what the overlap is between pocket constitution toting, three percenting, confederate flag waving, and over throwing the government militia types is. Just a huge fever dream of dissonance that somehow makes a person a 'patriot'. They probably are all involved in the meth trade too.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:no you're thinking of the 1% biker guys. The 3% thing is supposed to represent the 3% of colonists who actively fought in the Revolution. Not even going into how dubious that number is, they are literally comparing themselves to Revolutionary War soldiers. 
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May 17, 2014 01:19
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These are the points where I feel genuinely sad that people imagine themselves to be something special, but it's all in their head. Is there a good word (in German?) for empathy at seeing people's illusions crumble, or about to crumble, as they realize that they aren't brave, strong, admirable, loved, etc?
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May 17, 2014 01:21
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What, Harry Turtledove made a miniatures game?
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May 17, 2014 01:23
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Ocrassus posted:I understand perfectly the socioeconomic factors that cause obesity. Americans just have really, really hosed up views about health and fitness. People don't view fitness and eating healthy as something that just has to be done like car maintenance, it's viewed as a luxury or frivolity. When a lot of Americans see a really fit person they actually look down on them as someone who has too much free time that they've "wasted" on exercise rather than focusing on making more money like a real American.
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May 17, 2014 01:27
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If I didn't know that people actually had this delusion in real life, I'd think that a pretty cool statuette.
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MaxxBot posted:Americans just have really, really hosed up views about health and fitness. People don't view fitness and eating healthy as something that just has to be done like car maintenance, it's viewed as a luxury or frivolity. When a lot of Americans see a really fit person they actually look down on them as someone who has too much free time that they've "wasted" on exercise rather than focusing on making more money like a real American. N-not really? Unless you mean someone who is jacked then yes, they probably have a lot of free time. Gym membership/being in healthy shape is pretty reliable signaling in American culture that you're not perceived poor.
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Well it's also mixed with a weird envy-denial coating. "I could be that skinny too if I could afford to go to a gym" they say, having given up on their perennial lose weight resolution by February.
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America's bi-polar body issue complex would deserve a thread of its own (ideal is unrealistic for most but everyone is unhealthy sacks of poo poo who aren't even close to acceptable weight levels) and its probably only going to get worse as the revitalization of inner cities takes a privileged bent in that only people with wealth/high incomes can enjoy a more pedestrian/cyclist healthy lifestyle while the poor are shunted off to the abandoned housing bubble suburbs of yesteryear for fast food and long commutes and little options or incentive to be healthy and active. But that's a derail. Freepers are all fat rascal drivers because theyre all mental disability recipients or retirees.
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Shugojin posted:Well it's also mixed with a weird envy-denial coating. "I could be that skinny too if I could afford to go to a gym" they say, having given up on their perennial lose weight resolution by February.
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baw posted:Also that food is scientifically formulated in both flavor and texture to override the part of your brain that says "stop eating." Exactly like food in the rest of the developed world.
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