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DNS
Mar 11, 2009

by Smythe
Terminator Salvation is really poorly served by being aired right after T2. I don't know if there's a way to make it look good, but this definitely isn't it.

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Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

CPL593H posted:

Disagree.


No this actually owns because some big Twilight fans probably rented it and then watched the bar scene.

Dissapointed Owl
Jan 30, 2008

You wrote me a letter,
and this is how it went:
Spielberg rules butts.

Discount Viscount
Jul 9, 2010

FIND THE FISH!
I'm way behind on Spielberg, I only saw Close Encounters and the Indiana Jones trilogy for the first time back in February, outside of random snatches flipping through TV over the years. (For some reason it seems like I always would see the ending of Close Encounters.)

He and Cameron are incredibly busy people.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I'm about to brave the Godzilla thread, but I just want to say to you all that Godzilla (2014) owns like hell.

Man we weren't on the same page for ASM and Cloverfield but I'mma check Godzilla out on your word.

I was going to anyway. BUT STILL!

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
Don't blame me, you were gonna anyway.

SALT CURES HAM
Jan 4, 2011

Friedpundit posted:

"considered responsible for destroying 70s filmmaking."

Wow, way to over-condense m8.

I dunno, I can kinda see it? Spielberg laid the groundwork for the end of New Hollywood and the beginning of the blockbuster era, which if you have a particular attachment to the New Hollywood era of film could be taken as destroying it.

Spielberg loving rules though and I think he's only made a couple movies that I didn't at least kinda dig.

Yoshifan823 posted:

That ending might not even be real though.

I dunno, it works on a literal level but kinda doesn't gel with the tone of the rest of the movie.

SALT CURES HAM fucked around with this message at 22:29 on May 17, 2014

Dissapointed Owl
Jan 30, 2008

You wrote me a letter,
and this is how it went:
America: Where you can show whatever the gently caress that was that just happened in Hannibal on TV, but you cannot show a nipple.

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe
Another attempt to do something other than just shave all my facial hair off has failed yet again :smith:

If I could just grow those little bits of hair that combines the upper-lift hair to the chin hair, I could do a decent beard. But nooo.

EDIT: vvv patchy on the sides, scraggly on the chin, luscious and rich 70s-porn-star on the upper lip?

MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 23:12 on May 17, 2014

SALT CURES HAM
Jan 4, 2011
To be fair Hannibal is only a thing because it constantly abuses loopholes. You can't show horrifying poo poo like the human violin actually happening, but showing the aftermath as a still tableau is perfectly okay.

e: MisterBibs I think we have the exact same facial hair. :psyduck:

SALT CURES HAM fucked around with this message at 23:03 on May 17, 2014

Dissapointed Owl
Jan 30, 2008

You wrote me a letter,
and this is how it went:

SALT CURES HAM posted:

To be fair Hannibal is only a thing because it constantly abuses loopholes. You can't show horrifying poo poo like the human violin actually happening, but showing the aftermath as a still tableau is perfectly okay.

Explain the nose.

Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010
What's this about the end of Minority Report not really happening? Because they put him in one of those cells?

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



MisterBibs posted:

EDIT: vvv patchy on the sides, scraggly on the chin, luscious and rich 70s-porn-star on the upper lip?

Same here. In my case, it's combined with a weak chin that practically necessitates having some kind of scraggly-rear end goatee. Welcome to Hell!

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer

Syncopated posted:

What's this about the end of Minority Report not really happening? Because they put him in one of those cells?

There's one read that says that the end is just a dream he's having inside the tube. There's not alot to back it up but it fits. Also, as I said, the last shot is really close in many ways to the last shot of Solaris, which y'know is a situation where a character is choosing to live in a nice fantasy rather than reality.

Sprecherscrow
Dec 20, 2009

axleblaze posted:

There's one read that says that the end is just a dream he's having inside the tube. There's not alot to back it up but it fits. Also, as I said, the last shot is really close in many ways to the last shot of Solaris, which y'know is a situation where a character is choosing to live in a nice fantasy rather than reality.

"It was all a dream" endings are pointless enough as is I don't know why people would go looking to find one. You could make the suggestion for any movie ever, but what does it add? How would it enrich your appreciation of the movie? Weirdos man, I tell you what.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Sprecherscrow posted:

"It was all a dream" endings are pointless enough as is I don't know why people would go looking to find one. You could make the suggestion for any movie ever, but what does it add? How would it enrich your appreciation of the movie? Weirdos man, I tell you what.

Yeah, even if it is plausible I instinctively and immediately reject anything that supports the notion. I think by far that's the least interesting thing you could do to a movie.

SALT CURES HAM
Jan 4, 2011

Dissapointed Owl posted:

Explain the nose.

I haven't been keeping up with season 2, so... you first? :v:

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming
The Story of Film: An Odyssey is basically a perfect Saturday afternoon watch, but it reminds me of that Spielberg video posted earlier. It takes every opportunity to poo poo on Hollywood, to the point where it becomes distracting.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I'm about to brave the Godzilla thread, but I just want to say to you all that Godzilla (2014) owns like hell.

This is good to hear. See you there once I catch it tonight.

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

Facial hair chat: mine looks exactly like Christian Bale's in Out of the Furnace. I can't get the mustache to connect to the beard either.

Sprecherscrow
Dec 20, 2009

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Yeah, even if it is plausible I instinctively and immediately reject anything that supports the notion. I think by far that's the least interesting thing you could do to a movie.

It's a film with interesting stuff about the surveillance state and consumerism and free will. It's a film in which Tom Cruise does a Super Mario Bros. platforming sequence on a highway. But some people are going to argue that the plot, the base literal plot, is something different than what's on screen for no goddamn reason. I hated the ending of Inception not because I wanted to know for sure whether or not it was a dream, but because I knew that was all anyone was going to talk about afterwards. It's more frustrating to hear it applied to a movie that doesn't invite it so directly.

SALT CURES HAM posted:

I haven't been keeping up with season 2, so... you first? :v:

They showed a more graphic version of the flashback from the film Hannibal.

SALT CURES HAM
Jan 4, 2011
Oh.

Well then. :stare:

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

morestuff posted:

The Story of Film: An Odyssey is basically a perfect Saturday afternoon watch, but it reminds me of that Spielberg video posted earlier. It takes every opportunity to poo poo on Hollywood, to the point where it becomes distracting.

The guy's voice is some good easy listening. And they cover a ton of movies I've barely even heard of, especially in the earlier episodes.

BOAT SHOWBOAT
Oct 11, 2007

who do you carry the torch for, my young man?

Sprecherscrow posted:

I hated the ending of Inception not because I wanted to know for sure whether or not it was a dream, but because I knew that was all anyone was going to talk about afterwards. It's more frustrating to hear it applied to a movie that doesn't invite it so directly.
The entirety of Inception is a metaphor for the film-making process and getting an audience to "suspend their disbelief". People arguing about the ending is important - obviously there is no answer, the film ends - but since people are so convinced either way about what happens, they've been successfully incepted.

Sprecherscrow
Dec 20, 2009

BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:

The entirety of Inception is a metaphor for the film-making process and getting an audience to "suspend their disbelief". People arguing about the ending is important - obviously there is no answer, the film ends - but since people are so convinced either way about what happens, they've been successfully incepted.

Yes, I've read the whole reading and the 1:1 allegory of each character (JGL is the producer, Leo is the director) and found it equally pointless. It's a valid way to look at things, but again how does it enrich your appreciation of the film? I'll admit this reading helped shape my view of film, since it made me realize a reading could be true to the text and still be really loving stupid.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
Wait a minute, what the hell, Branagh is doing the live action Cinderella? That should be interesting.

Dr. Puppykicker
Oct 16, 2012

Meanwhile

morestuff posted:

The Story of Film: An Odyssey is basically a perfect Saturday afternoon watch, but it reminds me of that Spielberg video posted earlier. It takes every opportunity to poo poo on Hollywood, to the point where it becomes distracting.

The best part is when the narrator claims that even the name "Hollywood" is a lie, because holly does not grow there.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
... that's not even why it's called that! It reminded the wife of some guy who bought land there of a place with a similar name!

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:

The entirety of Inception is a metaphor for the film-making process and getting an audience to "suspend their disbelief". People arguing about the ending is important - obviously there is no answer, the film ends - but since people are so convinced either way about what happens, they've been successfully incepted.

I just like the homoerotic banter between JGL and Tom Hardy.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer

Sprecherscrow posted:

"It was all a dream" endings are pointless enough as is I don't know why people would go looking to find one. You could make the suggestion for any movie ever, but what does it add? How would it enrich your appreciation of the movie? Weirdos man, I tell you what.

I think for Minority Report people just like it because they wanted a darker ending than the happy Spielbergian one that we got. I've never had a problem with the ending as is in the slightest, so I did reject the idea of the "it's all a dream" thing but I still think the Solaris thing is kinda neat.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this

axleblaze posted:

I think for Minority Report people just like it because they wanted a darker ending than the happy Spielbergian one that we got. I've never had a problem with the ending as is in the slightest, so I did reject the idea of the "it's all a dream" thing but I still think the Solaris thing is kinda neat.

I think it works really well both ways, both plotwise and thematically. I don't like it just because it's "darker", I like it because it's ambiguous. We don't know, and neither does he, and I think to acknowledge that it could be a dream isn't simply to fold to a desire for edgy darkness.

Tars Tarkas
Apr 13, 2003

Rock the Mok



A nasty woman, I think you should try is, Jess.


Weirdo theories that sort of make sense are fun. Hence Ferris is all one character, everyone but Angelica is dead in Rugrats, real life in The Matrix is just another layer of The Matrix, all that dumb stuff about The Shining, Smurfs are commies, and Fight Club is Calvin & Hobbes. It's fun to have fun, hence why people have fun, which is sort of weird to have to explain, but there you go.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.
With Minority Report, its also based on a Philip K Dick story and never knowing what was real was a big theme in his work and his real life.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Tars Tarkas posted:

Weirdo theories that sort of make sense are fun. Hence Ferris is all one character, everyone but Angelica is dead in Rugrats, real life in The Matrix is just another layer of The Matrix, all that dumb stuff about The Shining, Smurfs are commies, and Fight Club is Calvin & Hobbes. It's fun to have fun, hence why people have fun, which is sort of weird to have to explain, but there you go.

Ferris is all one character, though.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Re: Spielberg chat - My girlfriend and I are currently at a local park, where there's an inflatable screen that will be showing The Goonies shortly. There's a bunch of people out here in lawn chairs and we've got sandwiches and chips and cookies and stuff. This should be fun :D

(I know Spielberg didn't direct it but he wrote and produced it!)

DNS
Mar 11, 2009

by Smythe

SALT CURES HAM posted:

I dunno, I can kinda see it? Spielberg laid the groundwork for the end of New Hollywood and the beginning of the blockbuster era, which if you have a particular attachment to the New Hollywood era of film could be taken as destroying it.

Spielberg loving rules though and I think he's only made a couple movies that I didn't at least kinda dig.

I've always been skeptical of that narrative. I think you have to make note of how New Hollywood's ascent happened to coincide with the age of the conglomerate - studios that had been major players since the 20s and 30s were being taken over by multinationals, and they would never do business the same way again. Maverick directors set on making one giant, ambitious turkey after another vs. the belt-tightening, marketing-driven corporate mindset that was spreading throughout the business was always going to be a bloody showdown, even if Lucas & Spielberg didn't come along to show everyone what kind of business they could be in. That's how I see it anyway, someone with more perspective could chime in and set me straight.

Tars Tarkas posted:

Weirdo theories that sort of make sense are fun. Hence Ferris is all one character, everyone but Angelica is dead in Rugrats, real life in The Matrix is just another layer of The Matrix, all that dumb stuff about The Shining, Smurfs are commies, and Fight Club is Calvin & Hobbes. It's fun to have fun, hence why people have fun, which is sort of weird to have to explain, but there you go.

"It was all a dream" isn't fun or weird though, which is why I don't embrace it. Except in Brazil, where it redeems the overlong climax.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

Weird Slice of Life: I was walking around in Wal Mart looking for a movie prop when I saw Dog the Bounty Hunter walking toward me. I nodded to him and he grumbled "Sup, boy." It made me laugh. He's an interesting looking man for sure. He lives like 10 minues from me so I was bound to run into him sooner or later.

SALT CURES HAM
Jan 4, 2011

DNS posted:

I've always been skeptical of that narrative. I think you have to make note of how New Hollywood's ascent happened to coincide with the age of the conglomerate - studios that had been major players since the 20s and 30s were being taken over by multinationals, and they would never do business the same way again. Maverick directors set on making one giant, ambitious turkey after another vs. the belt-tightening, marketing-driven corporate mindset that was spreading throughout the business was always going to be a bloody showdown, even if Lucas & Spielberg didn't come along to show everyone what kind of business they could be in. That's how I see it anyway, someone with more perspective could chime in and set me straight.

It's not necessarily the more corporate outlook in general, but rather the specific type of movie that exemplified it that I'm talking about. Every summer blockbuster, every big-budget effects extravaganza owes its existence to Spielberg and Lucas.

Hewlett
Mar 4, 2005

"DANCE! DANCE! DANCE!"

Also, drink
and watch movies.
That's fun too.

CelticPredator posted:

Weird Slice of Life: I was walking around in Wal Mart looking for a movie prop when I saw Dog the Bounty Hunter walking toward me. I nodded to him and he grumbled "Sup, boy." It made me laugh. He's an interesting looking man for sure. He lives like 10 minues from me so I was bound to run into him sooner or later.

Looks like the Celtic Predator... :crossarms:

has become the Celtic prey.

DNS
Mar 11, 2009

by Smythe
Are there any types of movie screens where you can sit really close and not see the perforations?

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Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Hewlett posted:

Looks like the Celtic Predator... :crossarms:

has become the Celtic prey.
YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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