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headlight
Nov 4, 2003

darkpriest posted:

I have only shot one creampie scene that is real.

I would say the majority are fake.

Perhaps I'm stating the obvious - but then in creampie (or fake facials) scenes where fake cum-ala-turkey baster is substituted in, will filming often finish up with the male actor not cumming?

Your threads have clearly shown that acting and producing porn is a highly professional business but it seems unreal to finish shooting and pack up without actually getting a happy ending :) If the male actor does get to cum does footage get shelved but not included in the final cut (or just not taken at all)?

Thanks for the thread by the way - I've read most you have done over the years and they are always a fantastic insight to a completely different world.

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MettleRamiel
Jun 29, 2005

luscious posted:

Um. This doesn't really make any sense if you understand female anatomy. Female ejaculation comes out of the same hole as pee does. I think you might be mixing up creampies and squirting as I don't think that injecting liquid into your urethra is preferred to just peeing (which is what 95% of squirting porn is). I have actually never heard of that.

They inject it into the vagina. Watch some of Porno Dan's scenes and you will see exactly what I mean. There is a hard cut to the girl's face for a few seconds (while she suddenly stops moving) and then a quick pan back down where we male talent pulls out and she "squirts."

luscious
Mar 8, 2005

Who can find a virtuous woman,
For her price is far above rubies.

MettleRamiel posted:

They inject it into the vagina. Watch some of Porno Dan's scenes and you will see exactly what I mean. There is a hard cut to the girl's face for a few seconds (while she suddenly stops moving) and then a quick pan back down where we male talent pulls out and she "squirts."

Yes, I understand what you are explaining - my point still stands. Female ejaculate does not leave the body through the vaginal opening but from the urethra. This is a technicality that doesn't need any more discussion. Squirting is so faked but men seem to have some understanding of it now and I guess pissing all over everything is more accepted now :confused: Either way, squirting doesn't really happen "on command" like porn makes it seem.

MAKE NO BABBYS
Jan 28, 2010

luscious posted:

Yes, I understand what you are explaining - my point still stands. Female ejaculate does not leave the body through the vaginal opening but from the urethra. This is a technicality that doesn't need any more discussion. Squirting is so faked but men seem to have some understanding of it now and I guess pissing all over everything is more accepted now :confused: Either way, squirting doesn't really happen "on command" like porn makes it seem.

I know your thread and thus I know that you know what you're talking about. I have managed to squirt on a few rare occasions, but I will say that many (in my experience, so probably only 'some' in the general sense, but) men have very little understanding of how that actually functions. Whether that's due to porn or it's actual frequency or what, I don't know. I'm sure if I were a porn star or prostitute, I could totally see the value in being able to mimic that response. It can be kinda heart breaking once you've said that you are capable of squirting to a new partner to explain that "yeahhhhhhh that's a rarity, it's not an every day thing nor something I can do on command." when they're like, soooooo set on it in the moment.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

MAKE NO BABBYS posted:

I know your thread and thus I know that you know what you're talking about. I have managed to squirt on a few rare occasions, but I will say that many (in my experience, so probably only 'some' in the general sense, but) men have very little understanding of how that actually functions. Whether that's due to porn or it's actual frequency or what, I don't know. I'm sure if I were a porn star or prostitute, I could totally see the value in being able to mimic that response. It can be kinda heart breaking once you've said that you are capable of squirting to a new partner to explain that "yeahhhhhhh that's a rarity, it's not an every day thing nor something I can do on command." when they're like, soooooo set on it in the moment.

Check out Cytherea if you want to see a professional "squirter". Don't know if it's real, but it's her claim to porn fame.

luscious
Mar 8, 2005

Who can find a virtuous woman,
For her price is far above rubies.
I actually believe Cytheria to be someone who has great control of herself and is capable of squirting. A thing that should be noticed about her is that it's never really "on command" and I honestly don't think that anyone would be able to replicate receiving pleasure while peeing the way that she is able to while orgasming. Even most of the girls that I know who do "squirt" (pee) only do a little bit at strategic times - not gushing everywhere a bunch of times.

MAKE NO BABBYS
Jan 28, 2010
Exactly. I hate to try to speak for other women but mine has never occurred in the manner that it does in porn, other than as portrayed in maybe one or two of in the Crash Pad series. It's more of a "press on the spongy pad while I'm already super turned on and stimulated, see gushing fluids." Queer/lesbian porn is far more accurate.

As for faking it, yeah, either urine or real good control of internal muscles allowing one to "squirt" an inserted liquid.

darkpriest
Dec 11, 2000

pentyne posted:

Porn is always mentioned as a "billion dollar industry" so I was curious if you could estimate how much tax revenue the state of CA gets for being a/the major hub for filming and production. I'd expect it to be close to $100 million.

That figure is more likely talking world wide and also including the sex toy market.

Definitely not going to be 100 million. There is a larger affect however. The companies start hiring free lance crews in Las Vegas or even out of country in Europe and the performing pool moves, then it will impact the local economy in ways that can't be predicted.

darkpriest
Dec 11, 2000


Who makes a camera that doesn't have a removable battery? Clearly they wanted to design it so you had to purchase multiple bodies to do any sort of commercial project.

I was really excited for this camera till I saw it in action. Not really a full frame camera, no matter what BM tries to spin. Add the battery issue and the camera isn't a great choice.

darkpriest
Dec 11, 2000

spatula posted:

darkpriest, how old were you when you first discovered pornography and how did you come across it?

I'd say I saw my first playboy around 12 or 13. Then saw Penthouse and Hustler magazines when I was 14 or 15. Didn't see my first porn movie till I was in High School. Those VHS tapes were difficult to get your hands on and even more difficult to view alone.

darkpriest
Dec 11, 2000

Incendiary Pig posted:

Ever worked with performer/MMA fighter War Machine? He used to date Christy Mack, and according to her he was really abusive. Is that something that would get you blacklisted from the industry?

I doubt anyone would hire him anymore.

darkpriest
Dec 11, 2000

Jeza posted:

What does it feel like dating a girl less than half your age? Do you have much in common with her at all? Do you ever plan to "settle down" in the conventional sense - like, retire and get married or something? (Just in general, not with her in particular.)

If that kind of question is too personal then I apologise, just pass 'em over.

She's really mature for her age. Very easy to get along with. She has that Canadian stereotype. Down to earth, very nice and honest. Age has never really bothered me before. I've dated all over the map. From much younger to women older then me. All comes down to how you get along.

I was married several years back. After awhile she hated my job more and more and eventually left.

darkpriest
Dec 11, 2000

El Spider posted:

from a consumer's point of view, why would i pay to see asses in yoga pants when i can just look out my window and jack off for free?

Why would anyone watch porn at all if you can just go have sex?

darkpriest
Dec 11, 2000

Tab8715 posted:

What's your take on this?

Biggest Filer of Copyright Lawsuits - xart.com

Granted, it's shame their business is hurt but it's still doesn't sound like justice to go for $150,000 per stolen movie.

I think it is fantastic. People don't steal cars because they know they could end up in jail. You'd be pretty angry if you came home and a bunch of your stuff was stolen.

darkpriest
Dec 11, 2000

MettleRamiel posted:

Realizing that most squirting in porn is faked, I love when there is an unexpected squirt in the middle of a scene. Are there any movies that you made where this happened and if so, which ones? I will immediatly pick them up!

Also, assuming girls get paid more for doing more things, let's say that a girl is hired with no expectations of anal and somehow during the scene she gets a cock in her rear end. Does her pay for the day suddenly go up or do you have to yell "cut!" and stop the scene?

I did a scene for Wicked with Summer Brielle and she suddenly squirted while riding me.

Anal doesn't work that way. You can't just shove it in there. Most likely if a that happened the girl would turn around and punch the guy. Nearly all anal scenes we shoot, there is a cut before the first anal position to allow the girl to warm up and slowly work it in.

darkpriest
Dec 11, 2000

Mymla posted:

How often do girls get injured from falling off the furniture they're precariously balancing on while wearing high heels? Or from being dropped by the male co-stars holding them while doing this weird standing 69 thing? How common are penile fractures?


How loose is your rear end in a top hat when you can accidentally get a cock in it.

Rarely have I ever heard of any injuries on set. Once in a blue moon, that involves falling or being dropped.

There have been two male performers in the past five years who both broke the penises when a girl came down at the wrong angle during riding positions. Pretty awful experience. Lots of blood.

darkpriest
Dec 11, 2000

Zerok posted:

Thanks for the answer.

Do you see doing that kind of work until you retire? Don't you get bored after a while? Or with the fact that there's a lot of porn genre, new girls, new things to shot makes it more manageable and renew the fun you have doing this?

I'm not sure where the industry will be in ten years. I'm not sure I will physically be able to still do this in ten years. The job takes a ton out of you, especially when you have long production runs.

One thing is for sure, there is nothing boring about this. It is a high stress job, which by itself makes it not boring. On top of that you are dealing with very attractive women day in and day out. Some you know over the years and then constantly meeting new models. I can't imagine anyone become bored of that.

Jst0rm
Sep 16, 2012
Grimey Drawer
what is your take on dp scenes? Do guys get paid more money to get that close or are they just as eager to get in there? Do you feel comfortable doing those types of scenes? As a hetro male I dont think I could do those myself.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



darkpriest posted:

There have been two male performers in the past five years who both broke the penises when a girl came down at the wrong angle during riding positions. Pretty awful experience. Lots of blood.

Aaaaaaaand now I have to ask how does a man's dick break. :magical: :cry:

El Spider
Nov 9, 2012

darkpriest posted:

Why would anyone watch porn at all if you can just go have sex?

you gave a pretty good reason why someone would in your reasoning why you're in the industry, i'm just offering what someone might think about yoga pants porn. where's the x factor in a jiggly rear end you'll see daily

luscious
Mar 8, 2005

Who can find a virtuous woman,
For her price is far above rubies.
People who have fetishes often have very specific fetishes. Yes, they can get off watching porn where their specific ~*~ultimate fetish~*~ isn't there but the goldmine shot? That's what they're looking for. It's not unusual for people who have smoking fetishes to want to watch someone smoke a certain brand (and they want you smoking real cigarettes because part of the fetish is killing the smoker, imo), or foot fetish guys to want your nails to be a specific colour... and that's pretty minor on the "special request-o-meter".

Fetish dudes are always willing to pay because it's hard for them to find exactly what they are looking for. Again, I go back to "cake farts" which I am almost certain was a custom clip made for someone before it went viral.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

Aaaaaaaand now I have to ask how does a man's dick break. :magical: :cry:

Well he explained the "how" but this is the "what": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penile_fracture

I've never seen anyone come in with that in my ED, but we've had one or two priapisms. That's one of those "get help NOW or you'll lose it" emergencies.

Atomizer fucked around with this message at 05:28 on May 18, 2014

Nckdictator
Sep 8, 2006
Just..someone

Atomizer posted:

Well he explained the "how" but this is the "what": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penile_fracture

I've never seen anyone come in with that in my ED, but we've had one or two priapisms. That's one of those "get help NOW or you'll lose it" emergencies.



"Vaginal intercourse, anal intercourse, and aggressive masturbation are the most common causes[1]"

Huh.

cf1140
Jun 28, 2008
In earlier threads you mentioned some negatives about women doing interracial porn, and I can't remember what those were. You also said that many stars won't do an interracial scene.

Lexi Belle did interracial early on as "Nollie." This no longer shows up on dogfart. Did she try to hide this so it didn't hurt her career?

Lara Brookes and Mae Meyers are two that did interracial but fit the profile of stars that don't do interracial; they both left the biz early? Did interracial have something to do with that?

Exioce
Sep 7, 2003

by VideoGames
It's the strangest thing that when getting hosed every which way on camera, the colour of the penis is what truly debases your person.

ante
Apr 9, 2005

SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS
How do those fat chicks that do anal go without eating for a day? :confused:

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
gently caress you

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
dark priest, who are your favourite (still) photographers?



also I noticed in a thread of yours years ago you stated that you didn't like (enjoy, whatever) anal, but then I noticed you did an anal vid.. was that a taste change or a business decision?

seems like anal is more popular than ever.. any comments?



also shaving pubes... any tips? shaving is easy, preventing ingrowns etc is not...

sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate

darkpriest posted:

The most commercially successful product is not a man and a women having sex. Transexual porn and gay porn tends to be the big earners.


Can you elaborate on this? Are there sales charts to look up to see what is doing best commercially?

luscious
Mar 8, 2005

Who can find a virtuous woman,
For her price is far above rubies.

echinopsis posted:

also shaving pubes... any tips? shaving is easy, preventing ingrowns etc is not...

Shave with the grain, towel off, apply unscented gel deodorant. If you get an ingrown hair, exfoliate. If you must take it out yourself use a sewing needle.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


What are your retirement plans, if any?

HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE
Mar 31, 2010


darkpriest posted:

Rarely have I ever heard of any injuries on set. Once in a blue moon, that involves falling or being dropped.

There have been two male performers in the past five years who both broke the penises when a girl came down at the wrong angle during riding positions. Pretty awful experience. Lots of blood.

:stare: I had no idea it was possible to break a penis

moflika
Jun 8, 2004

What initiation?

Well, for starters, you have to purify yourself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka...
Grimey Drawer

sonatinas posted:

Can you elaborate on this? Are there sales charts to look up to see what is doing best commercially?

I'm guessing this has to do with the huge amount of people being in the closet and trans/gay porn being the only way they are willing to get off. Of course, on top of all the openly gay/bi/straight folks that enjoy it :)

TerryLennox
Oct 12, 2009

There is nothing tougher than a tough Mexican, just as there is nothing gentler than a gentle Mexican, nothing more honest than an honest Mexican, and above all nothing sadder than a sad Mexican. -R. Chandler.
Thanks for making the thread DarkPriest, read a lot of nice insight into the industry.

I read AA Gill's foray into writing for porn and it amazed me that there are companies to whom you can submit an script and they'll basically film the movie. Is that a thing?

http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/comment/articles/2011-02/28/gq-comment-aa-gill-hot-house-tales-making-of-porn-film/directing

That's one genre that I would like to see developed, integrating porn into a movie with a decent plot.

Avasculous
Aug 30, 2008

sonatinas posted:

Can you elaborate on this? Are there sales charts to look up to see what is doing best commercially?

I'd be interested in seeing elaboration too, but its notable that he said "commercially successful", not better selling.

My guess is that the market for straight porn is way, way huger, but also way more saturated with competition. So category-wise, straight porn probably outsells the hell out of gay/trans, but individual gay/trans productions are more likely to turn a profit than straight ones.

HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:

:stare: I had no idea it was possible to break a penis

Are you rethinking your picture caption?

luscious
Mar 8, 2005

Who can find a virtuous woman,
For her price is far above rubies.

sonatinas posted:

Can you elaborate on this? Are there sales charts to look up to see what is doing best commercially?

You can talk to camgirls to find out what is popular in the industry at any given time. IME, right now there's a lot more focus on fetish (femdom) and taboo (something that when they're not masturbating they don't care for but during a porn watching session they are).

I think that people are becoming more comfortable with indulging in things that are a bit risqué and after seeing so much "regular" porn and getting kinda "desensitized" to it they need to push deeper in order to get the same stimulation as they did originally. If you consider that, it makes sense.

That's my theory based on what men who are "totally straight otherwise" but want to do shows where they are fantasizing about getting hosed in the rear end tell me. I'm willing to answer more questions about this in the thread that I made, if anyone is interested.

Avasculous posted:

I'd be interested in seeing elaboration too, but its notable that he said "commercially successful", not better selling.

My guess is that the market for straight porn is way, way huger, but also way more saturated with competition. So category-wise, straight porn probably outsells the hell out of gay/trans, but individual gay/trans productions are more likely to turn a profit than straight ones.

To expand and add that quote: I think you're on point with the second part. I think that people who are looking for something really specific realize that they might have to pay for their specific fetish once they have seen all the pirated stuff on tube sites.

luscious fucked around with this message at 01:08 on May 24, 2014

Faux-Ass Nonsense
Feb 9, 2013

by Lowtax

TerryLennox posted:

Thanks for making the thread DarkPriest, read a lot of nice insight into the industry.

I read AA Gill's foray into writing for porn and it amazed me that there are companies to whom you can submit an script and they'll basically film the movie. Is that a thing?

http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/comment/articles/2011-02/28/gq-comment-aa-gill-hot-house-tales-making-of-porn-film/directing

That's one genre that I would like to see developed, integrating porn into a movie with a decent plot.

Thanks for linking that. It's amazing how Gill can write about literally anything and make it hilarious.

Also, w/r/t the companies that film your scripts: there's a film called Final Flesh that you should watch.

Rap Music and Dope
Dec 25, 2010
For some reason Euros really suck to

darkpriest posted:

I think it is fantastic. People don't steal cars because they know they could end up in jail. You'd be pretty angry if you came home and a bunch of your stuff was stolen.

umm... isn't the article more about some millionaires extorting money using an unreliable faulty method of capturing pirates and forcing the people to settle do to the suit costs and embarrassment towards the crime? Maybe I don't understand your reply, what is your car analogy supposed to mean?

wow, never thought there would actually be a use for that car analogy icon we have...


edit: Wow there was zero reaction in this thread to Gitmo money son requesting how to build a "gently caress machine" and asking if he can PM darkpriest. Come on guys.

Rap Music and Dope fucked around with this message at 23:42 on May 24, 2014

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



Rap Music and Dope posted:

edit: Wow there was zero reaction in this thread to Gitmo money son requesting how to build a "gently caress machine" and asking if he can PM darkpriest. Come on guys.

Come on now. You can't deny that would make for a funny thread.

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Mymla
Aug 12, 2010
Do you get a lot of hate mail from anti-porn people? Or aren't you famous enough?
If yes, anything you feel like sharing?

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