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Lemon Curdistan posted:What is there that's missing from the current spell list that you absolutely must have? What justifies giving Wizards and Clerics even more options and increasing their power? Nothing that's a must-have, really. I haven't even looked into it all that well and thought about. I guess I wouldn't mind more utilitarian spells?
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Looking over the advanced moves, yeah, Cleric and Wizard need to be done. Original: The Scales of Life And Death When someone takes their Last Breath in your presence, they take +1 to the roll BORING New: The Scales of Life And Death When someone takes their Last Breath in your presence, roll +WIS. *On a 10+ they are able to make a deal with the deity you worship. *On a 7-9 you are still able to call upon your deity to make the deal, but will owe something great as well.
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May 18, 2014 21:46
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Deltasquid posted:Nothing that's a must-have, really. I haven't even looked into it all that well and thought about. I guess I wouldn't mind more utilitarian spells? ...you realize that the Wizard can do literally anything given enough time and some questing for appropriate materials, right? Ritual's a huge move.
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May 18, 2014 21:47
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Mors Rattus posted:...you realize that the Wizard can do literally anything given enough time and some questing for appropriate materials, right? Ritual's a huge move. I always forget about ritual. Probably because the wizard player in my group does as well and keeps solving problems with fireballs. 
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May 18, 2014 21:59
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I wouldn't mind just reflavoring "fireball" to "attack spell thingy" just because I like Melf's Acid Arrow.
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May 18, 2014 22:10
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Fenarisk posted:I wouldn't mind just reflavoring "fireball" to "attack spell thingy" just because I like Melf's Acid Arrow. I wouldn't mind letting the wizard pick an element and letting all attacks be reskins, really. If I want my astral magic, I should get it!
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May 18, 2014 22:11
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Have elements be like the fighter's signature weapon qualities. Fire: +2 damage Acid: +1 Piercing, Messy Force: Forceful Cold: Stunning
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May 18, 2014 22:19
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Rulebook Heavily posted:Have elements be like the fighter's signature weapon qualities. A good idea. Don't forget to put lightning, wind, earth, water and astral in there somewhere. I guess Wind and force are the same though.
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May 18, 2014 22:24
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Deltasquid posted:I wouldn't mind letting the wizard pick an element and letting all attacks be reskins, really. If I want my astral magic, I should get it! Fenarisk posted:I wouldn't mind just reflavoring "fireball" to "attack spell thingy" just because I like Melf's Acid Arrow. Not that I would try to discourage anyone from writing homebrew content from the game, but there's not really anything stopping either of you from doing these things with just the core playbooks. Any Dungeon World GM who would look down his nose at a wizard who says "my fireball manifests itself as an acid arrow" or "I am an ice wizard so all my poo poo is loving cold as hell" is GMing the wrong system.
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May 18, 2014 23:27
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Wizard and Cleric are done! Not sure what else to call them because frankly any other archetype name (priest, initiate, mage, witch, etc) are taken, so whatever. Spell books are not attached because I'm not changing the spells and I'm not rewriting all that poo poo. Wizard: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwKVEg-l1p9SLVZRNTdaWTh5VzA/edit?usp=sharing Cleric: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwKVEg-l1p9SbnhGVWtud19TSEU/edit?usp=sharing
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May 19, 2014 00:22
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On the topic of redone basic wizards, I'm making a Gandalf playbook. This is just page one, I need to finish some stuff on the second page, but it's been fun to write. EDIT: Hey Fenarisk you should put all of those playbooks into a nice .zip I can link in the megapost I keep not updating. gnome7 fucked around with this message at 00:44 on May 19, 2014 |
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May 19, 2014 00:38
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Fenarisk posted:Wizard and Cleric are done! Not sure what else to call them because frankly any other archetype name (priest, initiate, mage, witch, etc) are taken, so whatever. Spell books are not attached because I'm not changing the spells and I'm not rewriting all that poo poo. Arcanist and Bishop?
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May 19, 2014 00:41
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^^^ I like Arcanist, was also thinking Wizzard gnome7 posted:On the topic of redone basic wizards, I'm making a Gandalf playbook. This is just page one, I need to finish some stuff on the second page, but it's been fun to write. Once I get some more feedback and make any balance changes/tweaks, I'm filling out bonds and then plan on just that.
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May 19, 2014 01:00
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Chaplain for the Cleric, perhaps.
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May 19, 2014 01:02
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Fenarisk posted:Wizard and Cleric are done! Not sure what else to call them because frankly any other archetype name (priest, initiate, mage, witch, etc) are taken, so whatever. Spell books are not attached because I'm not changing the spells and I'm not rewriting all that poo poo.  Fenarisk, you're the best. A few of my current DW group will be hopefully be using your updated classes this week...If we can sort out 6 Schedules. I'll report back with feedback!
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Fenarisk posted:Wizard and Cleric are done! Not sure what else to call them because frankly any other archetype name (priest, initiate, mage, witch, etc) are taken, so whatever. Spell books are not attached because I'm not changing the spells and I'm not rewriting all that poo poo. Neat! I just started a campaign and two of my players are these. The third is a Gladiator and the fourth has yet to decide between the Merchant Prince or the Noble. (Yes, it is the Four Man Band set-up and they did it on purpose.) I'll compare them to the base and show them to the relevant players and see what they think. Question: Is there anything about the Gladiator, the Merchant Prince or the Noble I should watch out for or be prepared to encounter?
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May 19, 2014 02:49
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Fenarisk posted:^^^ For the Barbarian, the backgrounds don't give any bonuses. Not sure if that was intentional or not.
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May 19, 2014 03:17
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Benagain posted:For the Barbarian, the backgrounds don't give any bonuses. Not sure if that was intentional or not.  Thanks for catching that.Edit: Fixed in the original post but here it is as well. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwKVEg-l1p9SOE80ZTdiYzZ2SkU/edit?usp=sharing Fenarisk fucked around with this message at 05:50 on May 19, 2014 |
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May 19, 2014 05:40
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This is all pretty great, Fenarisk, but why leave the class icons/bonds blank? edit: instead of just leaving the base ones, that is. I want to use the classes for my upcoming expo games, but the icons + bonds make them look more finished!
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May 19, 2014 07:52
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Just want to throw out God Botherer for Fenarisk's new Cleric. If he doesn't take it, I'll be forced to make it a playbook myself.
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May 19, 2014 07:57
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Xelkelvos posted:Neat! I just started a campaign and two of my players are these. The third is a Gladiator and the fourth has yet to decide between the Merchant Prince or the Noble. (Yes, it is the Four Man Band set-up and they did it on purpose.) I'll compare them to the base and show them to the relevant players and see what they think. The gladiator is a straight up scene-stealing murder-machine. I think the damage is a bit too great on that class and needs toned down, but it's worth seeing how it goes with your group.
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Fenarisk posted:^^^ Wizzard is perfectly fine, but is sorceror (Sourceror  ) already taken?
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The Supreme Court posted:I think the damage is a bit too great on that class and needs toned down, but it's worth seeing how it goes with your group. It's a pretty easy fix: change the "max damage" option to "reroll damage," and then lower the damage die to d8 unless the Gladiator is the only fighter-y class in the game.
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May 19, 2014 09:56
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Deltasquid posted:Wizzard is perfectly fine, but is sorceror (Sourceror I made a sorcerer. They are a feelings Mage, they need to have major feelings to cast their magic. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z_AGe0v6WCybfcQ-nIlZcu5-rieYVUqoI1sjlHB_lP8/edit?usp=docslist_api
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Lemon Curdistan posted:It's a pretty easy fix: change the "max damage" option to "reroll damage," and then lower the damage die to d8 unless the Gladiator is the only fighter-y class in the game. Unless the playbook The Supreme Court is using is seriously out of date, reroll damage is already how the move works. You could drop the damage die if you wanted, though. Current Gladiator is here, by the way. Not sure if the second post is updated with this link.
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GimpInBlack posted:Unless the playbook The Supreme Court is using No, it's just me, I have the original version.  Thanks for pointing out you made the change.
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Hugoon Chavez posted:This is all pretty great, Fenarisk, but why leave the class icons/bonds blank? Once I get some feedback on bugs/mistakes/balance changes, the final versions will have bonds. As for class icons, I'm pretty bad at computers and since I'm using zarathud's base template in word 2010 I don't really know how to do that. If I don't notice any other mixups in the playbooks I'll probably have them finalized by the end of this week.
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GimpInBlack posted:Unless the playbook The Supreme Court is using is seriously out of date, reroll damage is already how the move works. You could drop the damage die if you wanted, though. Haha, that'd be it! I've not checked any of by collection for updates at all.
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Ok, I'm going with Arcanist (wizard), Chaplain (cleric), and need to figure out something for Barbarian because I already used Berserker for an awesome playbook  Once I have the final names in I'm doing bonds and fixing the name slots up top, then letting them loose in a zip file for SA, because I don't think I could legally sell these since 80% of them are the same as the core books (plus not doing the spell lists for wizard and cleric). For the record God-Botherer was a very close pick.
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Deltasquid posted:You could call the Barbarian the Brute? That's already a totally different playbook!
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Lemon Curdistan posted:That's already a totally different playbook! God drat it. Call the barbarian the Neckbeardbarian and be done with it.
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May 19, 2014 17:13
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Call it the Rageaholic.
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May 19, 2014 17:15
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The Conan. The Angry One. The Outsider. The Viking. The Warchief.
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The Wanderer. The playbook is really more about being an outsider than 'zerking out.
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Lichtenstein posted:The Wanderer. Yeah, this works fairly well.
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Outlander, for maximum pulp.
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Are you going to revisit the Battlemind that Sage kind of half-made when DW first came out? Or is the Initiate enough of a monk analogue?
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As long as we're talking new classes, Johnstone Metzger released the three classes from his excellent DW adventures as a PWYW thing. The Dungeoneer is avoiding traps and finding treasures and being all Tomb Raider-y. One of the base moves is a dungeon-specific take on Trap Expert, and they have this advanced move: quote:□ Rope Tricks The Elementalist is a free-form caster who gets control of elements using a verb/noun system. quote:Master the Elements The Magnate is actually a different kind of class, in that it's not build around adventuring. Instead, you're basically a land or business owner of some repute, ill or otherwise. It's like a cross between the Operator and Hardholder from AWorld with a little warlord mixed in. quote:Entourage quote:□ Entrepreneur
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LordZoric posted:Are you going to revisit the Battlemind that Sage kind of half-made when DW first came out? Or is the Initiate enough of a monk analogue? Considering my original classes from a year ago were absolute trash, if people are actually liking my remakes of the core that much I could look at some others. Outlander is TOTALLY what the Barbarian is ending up, that's an awesome one. Edit: I'm eating lunch on my day off after working out, and the Neckbeardian will be done within the hour. Fenarisk fucked around with this message at 18:03 on May 19, 2014 |
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