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agarjogger
May 16, 2011
Why this is supposed to be a problem or contradiction for the party that is still happy to parrot "The US isn't a democracy, it's a republic", I don't really get.
Yes they have a populism. A populism which includes everyone who agrees with them, and no one who doesn't. That's not a populism, but it doesn't matter since the whole drat country ties themselves in knots to find a way to take the Republicans at face value.

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VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Internet Webguy posted:

‘‘I believe I did use the ‘N’ word in reference to the current occupant of the Whitehouse,’’ Copeland said in a April e-mail that was sent to the two other commissioners and forwarded to the resident. ‘‘For this, I do not apologize — he meets and exceeds my criteria for such.’’

What criteria would those be?

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ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

Bait and Swatch posted:

So Rush was seriously saying the United States should operate as a "true" democracy using a majority rules vote for major legislation?

The conservatives would never get a drat thing passed. This is exactly the thing that Republicans constantly bitch about with the population on the coasts being more liberal. The constant crying about tyranny of the majority would be priceless if this actually happened in the US, as the GOP loses out on every major issue if put to a national vote.

This is the same political party that is actively sabotaging the right of everybody that isn't wealthy and white to vote. I imagine this is also a state's rights and local government thing so they can use it to gently caress up government on a local level. As in, anywhere where whites are the majority will go back to "black people have a curfew and can be arrested for standing around because the white majority says so." That, of course, can be used to arrest non-white people and give them just enough criminal record to prevent them from voting ever again.

Maybe I'm cynical but really, this is the GOP we're talking about and I imagine they'd do that sort of thing the instant they could get away with it.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Bait and Swatch posted:

So Rush was seriously saying the United States should operate as a "true" democracy using a majority rules vote for major legislation?

The conservatives would never get a drat thing passed. This is exactly the thing that Republicans constantly bitch about with the population on the coasts being more liberal. The constant crying about tyranny of the majority would be priceless if this actually happened in the US, as the GOP loses out on every major issue if put to a national vote.

There's this idea in the far right/tea party that they are the REAL SILENT MAJORITY of the nation and that the minority Democrats and evil socialists are only winning because of voter fraud, control of the liberal media, and other shenanigans that lead to a conservatism at siege feeling. If you buy into this whole silent majority bullshit, the whole majority rules makes logical sense.

No clue if Rush is believing his own nonsense with this demand or if he's just beating the drum to keep his viewers thinking that THEY are the TRUE, GOD FEARING, CONSERVATIVE AMERICAN MAJORITY to keep them in that siege mentality and information bubble.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

sleepingbuddha posted:

Batman is an ultra rich dude that could feasibly spend that money helping the poor but instead squanders it on paramilitary equipment used to beat the living poo poo out of those poor people. Of course he's the Republican ideal.

*Putting on the dork hat*

I loving hate this argument. This doesn't even apply to the Nolan movies, the ones that reflect the most realistic you can make Batman. You know what would have happened if Bruce Wayne had spent all his money trying to improve Gotham instead of ninja training and poo poo? The entire population would have been driven into an insane rage state and beaten everyone else to death.

I once tried to go through all the people who could be stopped by improving living conditions in Gotham through investing in infrastructure, championing a higher wage, funding better education - the stuff that stops real world crime. It would stop, at most, the Falcone family and the Penguin. Meanwhile, you still have two terrorists who want to destroy all of humanity, two dozen psychotic criminal geniuses who don't give a poo poo about money, just about racking up a high enough body count to prove a respective point, a career criminal who is out to prove himself and doesn't want to even try integrating into modern society, and a goddamn zombie. Improve the infrastructure all you like, the day Joker jacks a nuke its not gonna mean poo poo.

Spacedad posted:

You're forgetting that he also beats up mentally ill people a lot too.


Joker is just a guy with schizophrenia.
Who once made Darkseid piss himself.

Anyway, Content.

After being chewed out for removing same sex relationship from Tomodachi Life, Nintendo have pledged to be more open and inclusive in the future. How would a shithead say this?

Nintendo Promises to Push Gay Agenda on Children


gently caress YOU!

quote:

Earlier this month, the Japanese company Nintendo declined to introduce same-sex marriage in “Tomodachi Life,” a life simulation handheld video game marketed to children over the age of eight. Following the #Miiquality push (Mii is a digital avatar used in the game), Nintendo said it “never intended to make any form of social commentary with the launch of” the game.

The company, however, later stated in future releases of the popular game they will “strive to design a gameplay experience from the ground up that is more inclusive, and better represents all players.”

The push to introduce homosexual marriage in video game content is part of an aggressive agenda to normalize and force cultural acceptance of a lifestyle many Americans oppose on religious and moral grounds. The progressive left has politicized the same-sex movement and has fashioned the forced acceptance of the gay lifestyle into a civil rights movement. Indoctrinating children is key to the movement and this is why video game content is targeted.

“Children, like soft wax, are very malleable,” Soviet propaganda during the Stalinist period declared. “We must rescue children from the harmful influence of the family… We must nationalize them. From the earliest days of their little lives, they must find themselves under the beneficent influence of Communist schools.”

In much the same way the progressivist left believes children must be nationalized and rescued from reactionary Judeo-Christian ethics. In order to normalize what was previously considered aberration behavior, the left is pushing the gay agenda into avenues of mass media, television, cinema and video games.

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.
I still get a kick (a sad kick) out of how "representing all players" becomes "converting our kids to teh ghey". If only we weren't so permissive...

Conservatives take everything that is good in this world and pervert it.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

Fulchrum posted:

I once tried to go through all the people who could be stopped by improving living conditions in Gotham through investing in infrastructure, championing a higher wage, funding better education - the stuff that stops real world crime. It would stop, at most, the Falcone family and the Penguin. Meanwhile, you still have two terrorists who want to destroy all of humanity, two dozen psychotic criminal geniuses who don't give a poo poo about money, just about racking up a high enough body count to prove a respective point, a career criminal who is out to prove himself and doesn't want to even try integrating into modern society, and a goddamn zombie. Improve the infrastructure all you like, the day Joker jacks a nuke its not gonna mean poo poo.

You're right, the world of DC is a fundamentally conservative one. Villains are just evil, improving society will never placate them.

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


anonumos posted:

I still get a kick (a sad kick) out of how "representing all players" becomes "converting our kids to teh ghey". If only we weren't so permissive...

Conservatives take everything that is good in this world and pervert it.

The latter part is a quote from the Soviet Union for some random reason.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

SedanChair posted:

You're right, the world of DC is a fundamentally conservative one. Villains are just evil, improving society will never placate them.

This the same world where one of the biggest villains around is a billionaire industrialist who inherited his wealth, ran for president on the Republican ticket and opposes his enemy out of pure egocentrism with the only public reasoning being that relying on Superman makes people weak?

Hey, maybe its a comic and it doesn't try to espouse a political view, just try to tell a cool story. Comics usually aren't very good at trying to be directly political - see Marvels Civil War, where even the writers couldn't tell who the hell was on what side.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
Or maybe ostensibly simple morality plays have a deeper meaning whether the writers intended there to be or not.

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


Orange Devil posted:

Or maybe ostensibly simple morality plays have a deeper meaning whether the writers intended there to be or not.

No, you don't understand, the world is black and white and why doesn't DC cater to my political fantasies.

It's always weird when D&D decides to focus on pop culture and how much it applies to the latest loving scandal or whatever.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
Look can someone just tell me how problematic Spider-Man is before Wednesday because if I have to think on my own about things aside from forcing literally every media I consume into one size fits none political slots so I can smugly chortle at people who consume 'conservative media' while pretending that media that's more focused on being 'liberal' than anything else wouldn't be equally insufferable I may just freeze up.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Wayne Entprises does support some good things, like a free clinic for poor people run by a recurring character called Dr. Leslie Thompkins.
Most storylines only have him attending charity balls or opening nights to reinforce he's a rich hedonistic bachelor, you never get to see the Wayne Enterprises projects or expenses. It would be a boring comic indeed.
Still, Bruce does squander a lot of it for lovely toys.

ToxicSlurpee posted:

This is the same political party that is actively sabotaging the right of everybody that isn't wealthy and white to vote. I imagine this is also a state's rights and local government thing so they can use it to gently caress up government on a local level. As in, anywhere where whites are the majority will go back to "black people have a curfew and can be arrested for standing around because the white majority says so." That, of course, can be used to arrest non-white people and give them just enough criminal record to prevent them from voting ever again.

Maybe I'm cynical but really, this is the GOP we're talking about and I imagine they'd do that sort of thing the instant they could get away with it.

Not cynical at all, here's the fat druggie saying the exact poo poo a few years back:

http://mediamatters.org/video/2010/12/03/limbaugh-media-tweak-if-people-cannot-even-feed/174021

quote:

Limbaugh said, “This story raises a very unpolitically correct question. If people can’t even feed and clothe themselves should they be allowed to vote? Should they be voting? If people who are receiving government assistance, that is taxpayer assistance, if they weren’t allowed to vote can you imagine the political difference in this country? Can you imagine? It’s just a think piece, putting it out there for you to ponder?”

It's a background murmur now, but when Obama was just voted in the extreme nutjobs were saying a true 'democracy' could only be like the founding fathers.
Meaning only white male land owners.

Neremworld
Dec 3, 2007

by exmarx

Fulchrum posted:

Anyway, Content.

After being chewed out for removing same sex relationship from Tomodachi Life, Nintendo have pledged to be more open and inclusive in the future. How would a shithead say this?


I'm glad the Batmanchat is continuing just to piss off the person complaining about it.

Also, a clarification: Nintendo did not remove same sex relationships from Tomodachi Life.

It was never in the game to begin with. What they did was patch out a bug that could sort of allow it, which let you change your model without changing your character's internal data. So you could have a female-looking Mii who counts as male. They patched the bug out and people misunderstood and got angry.

To Nintendo's credit, they went "well, people apparently really wanted same-sex relationships in the first place, so we'll do our best to accomodate."

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR
To be fair, that was AFTER they said that they didn't mean to take it out but they also didn't mean to put it in and won't consider it in the future because it might offend the Flanderses.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Beamed posted:

No, you don't understand, the world is black and white and why doesn't DC cater to my political fantasies.

It's always weird when D&D decides to focus on pop culture and how much it applies to the latest loving scandal or whatever.

Yesh truly the application of pop culture to current eventsh and underpinning ideology and so on and so on ish totally inappopriate. Now let me tell you a dirty joke.

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Orange Devil posted:

Yesh truly the application of pop culture to current eventsh and underpinning ideology and so on and so on ish totally inappopriate. Now let me tell you a dirty joke.

Yeah, what's with this dumb idea about anti nuclear weapons in my movie about a giant monster destroying a city, D&D just had to try and read the approved Party line into everything don't they.

I sort of like the uncertainty of whether these Super villains would exist if it weren't for Batman. Though by far my favorite is The Wire option, the real villain is Gotham.

As for B:TAS and S:TAS (when younger) I always saw (and still do see) Gotham as New York, though I know this older guy who insist Gotham is Chicago and Metropolis is New York. And I used to see Metropolis as LA, for some reason (lost to the ages, younger me) thought it was on the West coast.

Hazo
Dec 30, 2004

SCIENCE



happyhippy posted:

Not cynical at all, here's the fat druggie saying the exact poo poo a few years back:

http://mediamatters.org/video/2010/12/03/limbaugh-media-tweak-if-people-cannot-even-feed/174021
Goddamn, I never can get over how they preface saying comically evil and undemocratic poo poo by saying "this isn't politically correct, but... :smug:" like it makes them some kind of edgy straight-talking hero. What a worthless sack of crap.


Unrelated, but football fans probably know that Carolina Panthers defensive end Greg Hardy was recently ordered to relinquish all his firearms after allegedly committing domestic assault. I can't believe the NRA and the usual GOP mouthpieces aren't outraged at this wealthy economic hero being stripped of his precious constitutional rights.

Nah I'm just kidding, we all know why.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Tatum Girlparts posted:

'conservative media' while pretending that media that's more focused on being 'liberal' than anything else wouldn't be equally insufferable I may just freeze up.

Remember that anything not explicitly labeled "conservative" is a product of the mainstream liberal conspiracy oppressor.

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


KomradeX posted:

Yeah, what's with this dumb idea about anti nuclear weapons in my movie about a giant monster destroying a city, D&D just had to try and read the approved Party line into everything don't they.

I sort of like the uncertainty of whether these Super villains would exist if it weren't for Batman. Though by far my favorite is The Wire option, the real villain is Gotham.

As for B:TAS and S:TAS (when younger) I always saw (and still do see) Gotham as New York, though I know this older guy who insist Gotham is Chicago and Metropolis is New York. And I used to see Metropolis as LA, for some reason (lost to the ages, younger me) thought it was on the West coast.

It's not about finding symbolism in works, obviously there's merit there, but this idea of reading Bruce Wayne as a Mitt Romney parallel is pretty silly, and I find it hilarious that you think it's the same thing as Godzilla, which is a very literal analogue. Christ.

And the way I understood it is that Metropolis is NY by day and Gotham NY by night.

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Beamed posted:

It's not about finding symbolism in works, obviously there's merit there, but this idea of reading Bruce Wayne as a Mitt Romney parallel is pretty silly, and I find it hilarious that you think it's the same thing as Godzilla, which is a very literal analogue. Christ.

And the way I understood it is that Metropolis is NY by day and Gotham NY by night.

Who the hell thought Mitt Romney was Batman? I remember when Rush right Bane was a riff ob Bain Capital.

DC much to their detriment has focused far to much on Batman and not enough on Bruce Wayne to show how both sides are used to fight crime. Which is where the Batman just beats up the mentally ill and poor and nothing else is coming from. Now I'm not saying a comic based on the effects of the Wayne Foundations work withdrawal be entertaining but it did use to get more play.

Also upon hearing that Metropolis is New York in the day abs Gotham is it at night really makes sense to me.

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


KomradeX posted:

Who the hell thought Mitt Romney was Batman? I remember when Rush right Bane was a riff ob Bain Capital.

D&D during the election :v:

But regardless, let's focus on something real, like Fox's ridiculous framing of a murder:

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!



Just get them Bayonetta 2 and it'll all balance out.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Nintendo isn't the only one turning kids gay

Common Core is

quote:

Here’s a newly publicized example: A Republican Florida state legislator, Charles Van Zant, told an audience at a conference in Orlando that the organization that has won a $220 million contract from Florida to design standardized tests aligned to Florida’s new standards are trying to get young people to become gay. Specifically, he said, Think Progress reported:

These people, that will now receive $220 million from the state of Florida unless this is stopped, will promote double-mindedness in state education and attract every one of your children to become as homosexual as they possibly can. I’m sorry to report that to you.

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2014/05/20/florida-legislator-common-core-advocates-are-trying-to-make-your-children-gay/

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Gay so hard mohfuckers wanna find me

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

anonumos posted:

Conservatives take everything that is good in this world and pervert it.

Isn't this what they're accusing the gay mafia of doing?

happyhippy posted:

http://mediamatters.org/video/2010/12/03/limbaugh-media-tweak-if-people-cannot-even-feed/174021

Limbaugh said, “This story raises a very unpolitically correct question. If people can’t even feed and clothe themselves should they be allowed to vote? Should they be voting? If people who are receiving government assistance, that is taxpayer assistance, if they weren’t allowed to vote can you imagine the political difference in this country? Can you imagine? It’s just a think piece, putting it out there for you to ponder?”

Yeah, think of all those whites on welfare that wouldn't be able to vote. :rolleyes:

Sir Tonk fucked around with this message at 18:28 on May 20, 2014

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Sir Tonk posted:

Isn't this what they're accusing the gay mafia of doing?

Conservatives are so good at projection if we harnessed their power we could probably use it to watch TV on the moon or something.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Oh no! Not gay standardized testing!

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
So how exactly do you attract children to homosexuality? Is there some sort of benefit that homosexuality has over heterosexuality that children would find especially appealing?

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

Darkman Fanpage posted:

So how exactly do you attract children to homosexuality? Is there some sort of benefit that homosexuality has over heterosexuality that children would find especially appealing?

If you believe that sexual attraction is a choice, then presumably you believe children can be swayed by promises of being treated like a second-class citizen and risking ostracization and murder.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Darkman Fanpage posted:

Is there some sort of benefit that homosexuality has over heterosexuality that children would find especially appealing?

Homosexuality would probably spare me a shitload of terrible dates.

SatansOnion
Dec 12, 2011

Darkman Fanpage posted:

So how exactly do you attract children to homosexuality? Is there some sort of benefit that homosexuality has over heterosexuality that children would find especially appealing?

Cooties immunity? :v:

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
If you are in desparate need of funds, or want to get seen by your voting base, claim something makes you a terrorist or gay.

No doubt he's now booked into some after dinner speeches or TV interviews the next few weeks over it.

My Q-Face
Jul 8, 2002

A dumb racist who need to kill themselves

SedanChair posted:

You're right, the world of DC is a fundamentally conservative one.

I recall about 20-odd years ago an issue with Alfred reading "L. Rishbaugh's the Way Things Should Be", so, probably, yeah.

Beamed posted:

It's not about finding symbolism in works, obviously there's merit there, but this idea of reading Bruce Wayne as a Mitt Romney parallel is pretty silly, and I find it hilarious that you think it's the same thing as Godzilla, which is a very literal analogue. Christ.

And the way I understood it is that Metropolis is NY by day and Gotham NY by night.

I always thought they were different boroughs of the same city, like Manhattan and Brooklyn, only significantly bigger than New York.


Vanzant, who might have turned gay if he'd only had the right influence at the right time!

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Buried alive
Jun 8, 2009
To be fair to the guy, he seems to be saying that common core advocates and other organizations will make your kids gay, not the common core standards themselves. Still dumb as hell. It's all motivated by the fact that the organization offers support for gender-related issues. Speaking of which:

"The Wa-Po Article" posted:

...enhance the well-being of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, questioning, intersex, or two-spirit (LGBTQI2-S) youth and their families.

What the heck does two-spirit refer to?

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Darkman Fanpage posted:

So how exactly do you attract children to homosexuality? Is there some sort of benefit that homosexuality has over heterosexuality that children would find especially appealing?

Perhaps by having no sexual education and forcing oppressive religious views of sexuality on them so that they cannot develop naturally.

quiggy
Aug 7, 2010

[in Russian] Oof.


Buried alive posted:

What the heck does two-spirit refer to?

"Two-spirit" is the special snowflake version of "bigender", for people who feel that they are both male and female.

My Q-Face
Jul 8, 2002

A dumb racist who need to kill themselves

Sir Tonk posted:

Isn't this what they're accusing the gay mafia of doing?

I think you'll find almost everything they accuse anybody else of doing, they're masters of. Why are they so sure there was voter fraud going on? Why are they so sure that Democrats want to indoctrinate their kids? Why are they so sure about what kind of disgusting thoughts gay people have?

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

Notorious QIG posted:

"Two-spirit" is the special snowflake version of "bigender", for people who feel that they are both male and female.

Not exactly. A lot of indigenous American cultures had a few special roles for people they called "two-spirits," which were people that didn't exactly fit standard gender qualities. It's actually pretty damned old concept that western culture wasn't exactly friendly to. Even so, many indigenous cultures didn't really give a poo poo which gender you wanted to act like. Some tasks were considered masculine, some feminine, and some people crossed that aisle a lot. Some tribes actually had special social roles that could only be filled by two-spirits.

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Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

Notorious QIG posted:

"Two-spirit" is the special snowflake version of "bigender", for people who feel that they are both male and female.

I think it's more of a Native American thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-Spirit

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