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Mr. Maltose posted:And Prince. Prince is a crazy-rear end dude who will litigate at the drop of a hat. Which makes it funnier that Soft and Wet was one of the only names that wasn't changed in the ASB localization.
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We still don't really know if that Prince story is actually true or not.
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May 19, 2014 14:31
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The whole problem with using music names doesn't come from copyrights, it comes from trademarks. Most song, album, and artist names can't be copyrighted (unless they're sufficiently unique; I think Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap might be unique enough? Then again that term comes from a cartoon so who knows), but they can be trademarked. That basically means they can say that whatever they trademarked is a part of their brand and they can stop someone from using that trademark if they think it will lead to brand confusion. For using names in a manga, this probably shouldn't be a problem; Nobody is going to confuse the character "Gold Experience" in a manga for the Prince album "The Gold Experience." The problem is that if a company doesn't like the association of their character with a villain or just wants to try to get money for the use there's nothing stopping a company from suing. The court may rule that it's fine for Viz Media to use the name Vanilla Ice in their publication but at that point they've already spent time and money working it out in court. Most name changes are because the cheapest and fastest way to ensure they won't have legal troubles using names is to just change them before any problems can arise. Basically everything was changed in All-Star Battle because it was a small release for a niche audience that Namco-Bandai didn't want to spend any more money on than they did. Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer in any respect, I just find IP and copyright/trademark law kind of interesting. Take everything I said with a mountain of salt.
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May 19, 2014 15:21
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I get why they felt the need to change some names. I just wish they could have been more creative than "Zipper Man." And Eiffel. Seriously. What the gently caress is that poo poo. If past localizations have proved that was entirely unnecessary, Crunchyroll blew away all doubt.
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May 19, 2014 15:54
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:I get why they felt the need to change some names. I just wish they could have been more creative than "Zipper Man." And Eiffel. Seriously. What the gently caress is that poo poo. If past localizations have proved that was entirely unnecessary, Crunchyroll blew away all doubt. Zipper Man is beyond forgiveness, but at least there's a band "Eiffel 65", so you can pretend.
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May 19, 2014 16:45
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I'm gonna release an album called Zipper Man so that it can retroactively be a reference.
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May 19, 2014 17:53
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"Zipper Man" is still a reference to the album itself since it had a working zipper on it. It's silly but it works.
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May 19, 2014 20:05
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I cannot imagine why Vanilla Ice would not want to be associated with a huge dude in a speedo who kicks the poo poo out of dogs and has a power called "Cream"
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May 19, 2014 21:05
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That should be everyone ambition in life. On a different note, I just became aware that all of the major villains in JJBA (up to Part VI anyway) have Stands that deal with affecting time.
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May 19, 2014 21:11
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:That should be everyone ambition in life. Except for Cars. He doesn't have a Stand at all (the Jorge Joestar novel doesn't count).
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May 19, 2014 21:14
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:That should be everyone ambition in life. It's Araki's opinion that things that deal with time and space are the strongest of all, so that's why he gives them to his main villains so he can have creative final battles.
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May 19, 2014 21:16
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:That should be everyone ambition in life. Part VI's villain is the best at affecting time! Obviously Kars' ultimate evolution is a result of accelerating his personal time, as seen on the hit television program Star Trek Voyager.
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May 19, 2014 21:18
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SunAndSpring posted:It's Araki's opinion that things that deal with time and space are the strongest of all, so that's why he gives them to his main villains so he can have creative final battles. I'd like to see some more space fuckery rather than time fuckery. Also everyone's forgetting President Funny Valentine Of The United Statesof America, he didn't have a time power. 
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May 19, 2014 21:33
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CodfishCartographer posted:I'd like to see some more space fuckery rather than time fuckery. Also everyone's forgetting President Funny Valentine Of The United Statesof America, he didn't have a time power. Sure it did. It could move through dimensions into alternate timelines 
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May 19, 2014 21:44
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CodfishCartographer posted:I'd like to see some more space fuckery rather than time fuckery. Also everyone's forgetting President Funny Valentine Of The United Statesof America, he didn't have a time power. Space fuckery is basically an offshoot time powers especially since he pulls people from other dimensions instead of a far off place like China or something.
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May 19, 2014 21:55
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Speaking of which, I want to see an alternate universe where Dio used the stone mask on Jonathan instead of testing it on a bum first.
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May 19, 2014 21:59
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^Johnathan becomes a good vampire. Beats Dio up for good, smashes the Stone Mask, and then kills himself with the light of the rising sun. Joseph is never born, and it falls to the Zeppeli family to stop the Pillar Men. Edit: And if the Zeppelis somehow kill the Pillar Men and prevent mankind from getting killed off, Kira will keep murdering in Morioh until the end of his days, Diavolo will kill Trish and continue to take control of the world, and the universe will never reset because Dio dies before he meets Pucci. SunAndSpring fucked around with this message at 22:28 on May 19, 2014 |
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May 19, 2014 22:18
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Dio will bond with Zepelli in a completely different manner, Dio-Joseph will be outstandingly more tricky. Part 6 makes more sense because of course Vampire Jonathon would think to bring about a new and better world no matter what.
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May 19, 2014 22:37
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SunAndSpring posted:^Johnathan becomes a good vampire. Beats Dio up for good, smashes the Stone Mask, and then kills himself with the light of the rising sun. Joseph is never born, and it falls to the Zeppeli family to stop the Pillar Men. But would Kira/Diavolo be such a problem without Stands? Kira, maybe, if only because he was an ordinary serial killer beforehand, but without his stand if he kept killing he'd probably get caught eventually.
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May 19, 2014 22:40
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They would still have stands more than likely. Dio didn't awaken stands so much as he awakened the Joestar family's stands. It's established Kira's stand awoke from his own killing intent and Diavolo's awoke from the stand arrow. Which more than likely was found without any involvement from Dio whatsoever so Diavolo still gets King Crimson. This is all in the scenario that Jonathan kills himself after being vampirized, which probably wouldn't happen because he would just live his life with Erina anyways and Joseph would probably still be born (Maybe).
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May 19, 2014 22:48
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I would have sworn that Kira was poked with the arrow like most of the other Morioh users because Akira gave no fucks and played William Tell constantly, but it's been so long since I've read Part 4 that I could totally be wrong.
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May 19, 2014 23:07
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He was, but that's how he got Bites the Dust. Killer Queen awakened from his desire to kill people without leaving evidence behind.
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May 19, 2014 23:13
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjfJKLueAKQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD1abQAYOVU This little kid knows so much about JoJo. So cute 
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Yeah, Kira got Killer Queen without the arrow and Diavolo gave his arrows away after getting King Crimson, which is how Dio got it. On the topic of main villains, there's one thing I never understood about Kars. If he respects nature so much that he's willing to avoid killing a flower by landing on it, why'd he have his squirrel-hand cannibalize that other squirrel?
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May 20, 2014 04:03
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Because squirrels are scum and everyone hates them.
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He was the Ultimate Lifeform at that point. gently caress nature. All is inferior.
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May 20, 2014 04:11
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Because it was insanely cool
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Yeah, Kira got Killer Queen without the arrow and Diavolo gave his arrows away after getting King Crimson, which is how Dio got it. Because even that facet of Kars is bullshit, everything about him was false in the end except for his lust for power.
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Because he saw a chance to kill something to the tune of dubstep, and not even the Ultimate Lifeform could resist.
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Because flowers are fabulous unlike squirrels.
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Goddamn, I've been a longtime JoJo fan, ever since the first English scanlations started appearing in the early 2000s, but I've never read past part 3 'cause the Duwang translation was so godawful. Now that the new translation is almost done, I've started reading it, and although I wasn't digging it at first, the whole Italian food chapter might be the best goddamn thing I've ever read 
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Hakkesshu posted:t I've never read past part 3 'cause the Duwang translation was so godawful. How does it feel to have no soul? Because I can not feel you. Your feelings, I can not feel you deeply.
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Hakkesshu posted:Goddamn, I've been a longtime JoJo fan, ever since the first English scanlations started appearing in the early 2000s, but I've never read past part 3 'cause the Duwang translation was so godawful. Now that the new translation is almost done, I've started reading it, and although I wasn't digging it at first, the whole Italian food chapter might be the best goddamn thing I've ever read How can you not like Duwang?
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Tonio's arc is the greatest thing
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grancheater posted:Tonio's arc is the greatest thing I can't wait for that for that to be animated so we can unleash weapons-grade food porn on all the Jojo newbies. 
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SunAndSpring posted:How can you not like Duwang? I mean, it's funny but if you're actually trying to understand Part 4 it doesn't work all that well.
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SALT CURES HAM posted:I mean, it's funny but if you're actually trying to understand Part 4 it doesn't work all that well. That only proves you've never read it because it's perfectly serviceable. It just looks terrible. I'd go as far as to say that Duwang is less bad than the part 3 scans and the part 5 translation.
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Uznare posted:That only proves you've never read it because it's perfectly serviceable. It just looks terrible. I'd go as far as to say that Duwang is less bad than the part 3 scans and the part 5 translation. Later parts of it, at least. Early Duwang is pretty bad. Basically once the translator figured out that the town is actually called "Morioh" and not Duwang it's completely readable.
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Duwang is grammatically terrible, but surprisingly accurate and understandable despite that. The Part 5 translation is the real crock of poo poo here, those fuckers were just flat out making poo poo up.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Duwang is grammatically terrible, but surprisingly accurate and understandable despite that. The Vento translation commits a far bigger sin: it's boring. At least Duwang is charmingly poorly translated, Part 5 is just flat. The last thing JoJo should be is boring or flat.
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