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May 19, 2014 22:54
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Its the mirror universe Yalta Conference.
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May 19, 2014 22:57
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JFairfax posted:wait what? is that Slavoj Zizek? That's what I thought. I have no idea if it is, but trying to find out I got this: 
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May 19, 2014 23:00
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JFairfax posted:What you need to do is go through the job specification. How many years experience are they looking for? Are you ticking all of their required skills and experience? The aim is to be realistic in your appraisal of your skills and experience so that you can push back and say 'no, I hit every criteria for this role and deserve the top of the bracket'. Well, I don't hit every top criteria, part of the interview process established that with appropriate training and support I'll be there one day. There was at least one candidate who was probably worth the top end of the bracket, but there's actually no need for them to hire someone costing that much (and they'd probably not stay in that rle long enough to be worthwhile). I'm the best choice, and I'm probably worth what they're offering. I am jumping 2-3 grades up the ladder here so it's not bad- I'm probably just (thinking about) being greedy.
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May 19, 2014 23:12
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I will be quite seriously disappointed if I don't hear they're dead shortly. Was this around kent?
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May 19, 2014 23:22
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@Squalitude Being greedy is fine, you just need to be able to justify it! And also being willing to walk away from the offer if it's really not acceptable, and it sounds like in this situation you have more to loose if the negotiation goes wrong. If you can't genuinely say you hit all of the criteria for making top of the bracket, the other thing is a competing offer - but if you haven't been talking throughout the process about you interviewing for another role they will probably not believe you if you say you got an offer for £2k more from another company. I had a mate who is a recruiter and there was one time when a lady went and interviewed with a client of his, and she got offered. She made him go back, get a higher offer, got everything she wanted - but ended up staying with her current firm. Basically used that offer as leverage to get a higher salary. I laughed 'cause he got played properly, and he really worked his balls off to get the client to come back with a higher offer and they were not amused. Anyway, I digress. You can try being greedy if you want, but you have to be prepared for it backfiring as it doesn't sound like you have too much leverage in this particular situation and a more to loose than gain. Once you're not a temp and you're in perm full time job then you can start playing the game of getting up that ladder.
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May 19, 2014 23:22
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What in the unholy gently caress is going on here? How is Farage even within fifty feet of him?
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May 19, 2014 23:46
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Hungry posted:What in the unholy gently caress is going on here? How is Farage even within fifty feet of him? Both on Newsnight tonight.
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May 20, 2014 00:02
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TheHoodedClaw posted:Both on Newsnight tonight. At the same time? Can I expect a lispy beatdown?
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May 20, 2014 01:03
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TheHoodedClaw posted:Both on Newsnight tonight. Does Question time know that Farage is cheating on it?
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May 20, 2014 01:13
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Who's that floppy haired prick on the right? He looks like I'd hate him.
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May 20, 2014 03:05
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Jakabite posted:Who's that floppy haired prick on the right? He looks like I'd hate him. Looks like the Telegraph columnist, Tim Stanley: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/author/timstanley/ He's mentioning a pic on his Twitter feed, so probably is him. He's a Tory, but a thoughtful, rather melancholy one, so perhaps not completely hateful.
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May 20, 2014 06:12
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Umiapik posted:He's a Tory, but a thoughtful, rather melancholy one, so perhaps not completely hateful. A thoughtful, rather melancholy rat is still a rat.
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May 20, 2014 07:03
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Umiapik posted:Looks like the Telegraph columnist, Tim Stanley: It is him, and I find him odious, high handed, and slimy. So yeah, pretty good for a Tory.
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May 20, 2014 09:57
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LemonDrizzle posted:Housechat? Housechat. 
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May 20, 2014 10:55
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TinTower posted:There are council elections on Thursday too. In Liverpool, a Lib/Lab marginal is beset by accusations of homophobia. This time, it's the Labour Party: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ4w41ZYY9A Fluo fucked around with this message at 11:52 on May 20, 2014 |
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May 20, 2014 11:48
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What's the current UKMT ISP of choice? BE Internet was a great recommendation, though I cancelled after they got absorbed by Sky. Any current ones like them?
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May 20, 2014 12:56
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Mr. Flunchy posted:What's the current UKMT ISP of choice? I thought that said UKIP ISP of choice for a second. I use Andrews & Arnold. Bit pricey but you get what you pay for (awesome service) and they're cool guys who have a lot to say about things like internet filtering. I had a problem when my account went live and the CEO himself helped me out on IRC out of hours and wrote a blog post about it 
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May 20, 2014 13:06
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Mr. Flunchy posted:What's the current UKMT ISP of choice? I've used Zen (zen.co.uk) since BT politely asked me to leave about 8 years ago. They're a little bit more expensive than the kinds of deal you can get with the big ISPs, but their customer service is second to none, in fact they've won the PCPro ISP award every year for as long as I can remember. Heartily recommend to family and friends, and no ones had a problem with them. Great thing is month to month contracts (except for fibre), so if you don't like them or they're too expensive just cancel. The data usage limits are sensible, and they don't do any traffic management, and they're a small enough ISP to not be required to block certain sites.
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May 20, 2014 13:31
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The amount of times ISP chat comes up it might be useful if whoever makes the next OP includes the recommendations in it.
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May 20, 2014 13:42
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ISPreview is also a pretty good site/resource for finding an ISP.
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May 20, 2014 13:46
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I'm on Plusnet Fibre and they're all right, basically exactly the same thing and price as BT Infinity (because they're owned by BT) but with UK based call centres. Also like most places they do referrals based signups so if you know someone with it, then you / they can get slightly cheaper internet (I assume it's not allowed here so get someone irl to sort it out)
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May 20, 2014 14:57
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Mr. Flunchy posted:What's the current UKMT ISP of choice? My previous ISP was BE and after I moved flat I switched to Virgin Media. Made a big difference not having to pay line rental and having 50 times the download speed.
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May 20, 2014 16:26
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I've used Vivaciti in the past and they were great. Same as other have said about small companies, excluded from the bollocks thats attached to larger providers with personalised service. Since I tend to have very high bandwith usage there LLU package was ideal for me.
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May 20, 2014 17:04
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BBC posted:UKIP leader Nigel Farage has pulled out of a musical carnival organised by his party after supporters clashed with protesters in the street. 
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May 20, 2014 19:01
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So UKIP tried to hold a 'diversity carnival' in Croydon to try to counter their racist reputation. It didn't go well. Edit: Oh goddamnit! Still, my link has more photos (and a working link  )
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May 20, 2014 19:04
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From Wikipedia:quote:Winston Truman McKenzie (born 23 October 1953) is a British politician and former boxer, notable for having joined every major political party and having stood as an independent or minor party candidate on numerous occasions without success. Man, this guy is the journeyman's journeyman.
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May 20, 2014 19:31
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Zero Star posted:
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May 20, 2014 19:44
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So I'm voting in the Euro elections this Thursday, and my area is the South-West. Would this thread's fine Internet detectives kindly fill me in on which candidates are poo poo, which are less poo poo, and which are hardly poo poo at all? I'm discounting the Tories, the BNP, the English Democrats, UKIP, and An Independence From Europe for obvious reasons.
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May 20, 2014 19:50
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Darth Walrus posted:So I'm voting in the Euro elections this Thursday, and my area is the South-West. Would this thread's fine Internet detectives kindly fill me in on which candidates are poo poo, which are less poo poo, and which are hardly poo poo at all? I'm discounting the Tories, the BNP, the English Democrats, UKIP, and An Independence From Europe for obvious reasons. Looks like your options are green or labour, I'd go green myself, but then I had better options than that sorry list :P e: also, in the old pollinator topic, just had to shepherd a honey bee outside because they're as thick as poo poo and unable to notice things like open windows (but I love them anyway, and will be getting a big one tattooed on me soon
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May 20, 2014 20:13
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Darth Walrus posted:So I'm voting in the Euro elections this Thursday, and my area is the South-West. Would this thread's fine Internet detectives kindly fill me in on which candidates are poo poo, which are less poo poo, and which are hardly poo poo at all? I'm discounting the Tories, the BNP, the English Democrats, UKIP, and An Independence From Europe for obvious reasons. Loving the Tories listed alongside that lot. Thinking about it though, are there any non-joke alternatives to the Tories, or are they all loons? I'm including UKIP among the joke parties.
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May 20, 2014 20:20
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Darth Walrus posted:So I'm voting in the Euro elections this Thursday, and my area is the South-West. Would this thread's fine Internet detectives kindly fill me in on which candidates are poo poo, which are less poo poo, and which are hardly poo poo at all? I'm discounting the Tories, the BNP, the English Democrats, UKIP, and An Independence From Europe for obvious reasons. Same region, I'm gonna vote Green even though it pains me to do so because of their loving stupid views on nuclear power. They were polling higher than the Lib-Dems last time I checked, so they do actually have a chance at a seat.
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May 20, 2014 20:21
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Loonytoad Quack posted:Same region, I'm gonna vote Green even though it pains me to do so because of their loving stupid views on nuclear power. They were polling higher than the Lib-Dems last time I checked, so they do actually have a chance at a seat. That's a common refrain in this thread. I think people significantly overestimate what sway local councils and / or the European Parliament have over nuclear power in the UK which really is a matter for Westminster.
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May 20, 2014 20:24
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Darth Walrus posted:So I'm voting in the Euro elections this Thursday, and my area is the South-West. Would this thread's fine Internet detectives kindly fill me in on which candidates are poo poo, which are less poo poo, and which are hardly poo poo at all? I'm discounting the Tories, the BNP, the English Democrats, UKIP, and An Independence From Europe for obvious reasons. I have no idea how reliable it is but rs21 has a Euro elections post which includes a Greens or Labour guide. http://rs21.org.uk/2014/05/20/rs21-guide-to-the-european-elections-our-predictions-and-recommended-votes/
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May 20, 2014 20:27
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Kegluneq posted:So UKIP tried to hold a 'diversity carnival' in Croydon to try to counter their racist reputation. It didn't go well. Oh dammit, I wasn't working today, I could have gone and witnessed this first hand. Very disappointed :/
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May 20, 2014 20:38
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Party Boat posted:I have no idea how reliable it is but rs21 has a Euro elections post which includes a Greens or Labour guide. http://rs21.org.uk/2014/05/20/rs21-guide-to-the-european-elections-our-predictions-and-recommended-votes/ That site gives a glowing review to Glyn Ford, but doesn't mention its reasons. I don't know him, so what makes him so fantastic?
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May 20, 2014 20:41
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I'm not really seeing why I should vote tactically for Labour in the South West. The Greens, while  over nuclear, are still further to the left, and more involved in Europe.WHATEVER YOU DO THOUGH GUYS DON'T VOTE UKIP THOUGH HERE HAVE MY 5000 WORD ESSAY ON IT 
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May 20, 2014 20:48
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If you've got no attachment to Glyn Ford then either Green or Labour is as good as the other - SW England is currently 3 Tories, 2 UKIP and 1 Lib Dem and will probably go entirely bluey-purple. e: The article's author claims that the Greens have no chance in SW England, but I think his attachment to Ford is blinding him a little - the Greens placed ahead of Labour in SW in 2009. Party Boat fucked around with this message at 21:02 on May 20, 2014 |
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May 20, 2014 20:53
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A quick check on Wikipedia says Ford did some heavy-duty antifascist work when he was an MEP, and has a strong record on science. The Greens may have a better party platform, but apparently they're not bringing their A-game in the South-West due to perceived unelectability, which raises the question of how much you trust the candidates they've got there to deliver what they're promising.
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May 20, 2014 21:01
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Party Boat posted:I have no idea how reliable it is but rs21 has a Euro elections post which includes a Greens or Labour guide. http://rs21.org.uk/2014/05/20/rs21-guide-to-the-european-elections-our-predictions-and-recommended-votes/ That guy's analysis is absolutely terrible. He's basing the entire thing off cross-tabs from national polls, which means the margins of error on the vote shares he's using are so large as to render his conclusions meaningless. His suggestion that the Greens might get an MEP in Scotland is particularly absurd since some proper polls have been done there and the Greens consistently poll below UKIP, the Tories, and Labour's potential third MEP. In the South-West, we're almost certain to get at least two Tories and two UKIP MEPs. The last two seats will probably be tossups between Labour, the Lib Dems, (despite their woeful national ratings, they're pretty well dug into a number of south west constituencies at the local level, which may or may not be enough to get them something here), the Greens, and third slots for the Tories/UKIP. On an individual level, the first candidates for Labour and the Greens are both pretty unobjectionable, so take your pick. e: if I had to make a best guess at the South-West MEP distribution, it'd be UKIP 3, Con 2, Green 1 but that's based off nothing more than historical results and national trends. LemonDrizzle fucked around with this message at 21:30 on May 20, 2014 |
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