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You could try using it's XMP settings, but a quick google search tells me that it'd use 1.7V at those settings(1600 C9). You could try loosening some of the timings and see if it'll stabilize at 1.5V, if you're so inclined. Also at the risk of getting yelled at, I'd argue that while upgrading your RAM from 1333 is definitely is something you should look into doing eventually, it's hardly a critical flaw in your machine, especially since you have a dGPU.
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I kinda tried that since I now have a fancy UEFI BIOS where I can move a slider for "more faster". It changed the timings to 9-11-11 something and I believe it goes up to 1.5V. The computer is indeed a little faster - I was kind of surprised since any AMD CPU I'd ever overclocked made little to no difference. Skyrim haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaates it. 
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May 16, 2014 01:34
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Hace posted:Also at the risk of getting yelled at, I'd argue that while upgrading your RAM from 1333 is definitely is something you should look into doing eventually, it's hardly a critical flaw in your machine, especially since you have a dGPU.
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May 16, 2014 02:18
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Huh. Is that why Fry Cry 3 runs an asston better on the 4670k than my Phenom II with the same GPU? Better framerates at higher detail I mean.
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May 16, 2014 02:38
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Panty Saluter posted:Huh. Is that why Fry Cry 3 runs an asston better on the 4670k than my Phenom II with the same GPU? Better framerates at higher detail I mean.
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May 16, 2014 02:49
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Huh. Did you all know that mismatching your RAM sticks - which are identical in terms of manufacturer, model, speed, and latency and differ ONLY by production run can cause BSODs and lockups? I sure didn't until a few days ago. I don't remember what prompted me to check but this computer had been a little flaky (especially under load) and it was REALLY bitchy if I dared overclock it. Now that I have paired them by production run everything is just peachy. Even with a mild overclock. Of course it doesn't help that Gigabyte went to great lengths to obfuscate how to pair RAM sticks on the board... 
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May 20, 2014 02:21
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Unfortunately any sticks can fail to work together if they haven't been specifically sold in a matched pair for dual-channel applications. That doesn't mean they won't work if not sold in a matched set, but you can't depend on it.
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May 20, 2014 02:25
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Yeah, again I don't remember what prompted me to check on it but run to run variations are a thing for sure. I wouldn't have thought the effect would be so dramatic but on the other hand at high speeds even the latency based on trace length on a PCB make a difference. I'm just stoked that the board wasn't bad. The last time I had a problem like this it was a Socket A Soyo that ran shittily for a couple of years before just up and dying.
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May 20, 2014 02:30
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Gigabyte boards are pretty notoriously crappy, though usually you notice that with power delivery quality issues. For example, high voltage spikes to the CPU causing hangs or reboots, and needing a supplemental power connector for the PCIe slots because they cut down on power traces to save money. You can usually work around those issues by disabling LoadLine Calibration and potentially some power saving modes in the BIOS, and plugging in the supplemental power connectors that the motherboard manual says are optional (not actually optional).
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May 20, 2014 02:43
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Haven't had too many issues with the two Gigabytes I've had so far but my last one was definitely happier when I finally got a PSU with a proper 8 pin EPS connector. Worse case I can always replace the board. No, the issue I have with the RAM slots is that the design is completely the opposite of how I would think of it. Maybe I'm the deviant here but when I see two (non-adjacent) blue slots and two black slots I think that you pair by color. Not so with Gigabyte, although the manual doesn't really illuminate that very well. It says you have to pair slots 3_1 and 3_3, and 3_2 with 3_4. Again this tells me that the pairs are non-adjacent but if you look at the diagram you will see slots 3_1 and 3_3 are adjacent, as are 3_2 and 3_4. So basically it's backwards from how my brain works but maybe I'm in the minority.
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May 20, 2014 02:57
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Panty Saluter posted:Huh. DRAM is one of the most finicky things from a hardware point of view; we're lucky it works as well as it does in consumer hardware, honestly. Both Intel and AMD have patents galore on techniques to improve DDR training, performance and general stability. And all their work can be undone if the board design isn't done correctly; the mobo vendors certainly don't have time to test every stick ever, so you can end up with the perfect corner case of a motherboard on the edge of its specification with a DRAM stick at the edge of its tolerances that manifest every now and then as instability for the end user.
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movax posted:DRAM is one of the most finicky things from a hardware point of view; we're lucky it works as well as it does in consumer hardware, honestly. Both Intel and AMD have patents galore on techniques to improve DDR training, performance and general stability. And then add in the "must make common overclocker benchmarks 0.1% faster" factor and it's a miracle some of these board vendors ever ship a BIOS with truly stable DRAM defaults.
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Well I had hoped to see if Wolfenstein could actually make use of it's recommended i7 and 8 threads. But even if it did, it looks like it's plagued by by a bunch of other weird poo poo, the strangest of which is using OpenGL from 2009. Well onto Watch Dogs for that info I guess
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May 22, 2014 17:32
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Pricing for Intel's Devil's Canyon CPUs has leaked:: The Core Core i5 4690K is $254.01, the Core i7 4790K is $362.96. These CPUs are slated for launch June 2nd.
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May 23, 2014 23:05
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quote:The sources also state that all three processors should be valid on both the 8-series and 9-series motherboards Ooo
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May 23, 2014 23:20
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Anandtech posted:...new packaging and higher quality TIM... But the quality of the TIM wasn't the problem. Was this copied from an Intel press release?
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May 24, 2014 00:25
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Alereon posted:Core i5 4690K is $254.01, ...only months after I finally pulled the trigger on a Haswell i5-4670k and it's like $10 more. Every. loving. time.
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Shaocaholica posted:But the quality of the TIM wasn't the problem. Was this copied from an Intel press release?
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May 24, 2014 01:16
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Shaocaholica posted:But the quality of the TIM wasn't the problem. Was this copied from an Intel press release? It was indeed their wording, but it's likely just because that was the issue that "stuck". The thermal paste used matters though so it's not like there isn't improvement to be had. I've read that the stock paste is perfectly fine at worst though but I can't remember where.
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http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/intel_devil%E2%80%99s_canyon_delayed_to_late_september_2014.html Rumors that the launch is "paper" only and the processors won't be available for a while. I don't see anyone else reporting this though, and they have basically no sources. beejay fucked around with this message at 03:22 on May 24, 2014 |
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So how big of a deal is Devil's Canyon compared to Haswell? I'm pretty happy with my current X58 setup but I would love faster boot times and USB 3.0.
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May 24, 2014 07:31
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fookolt posted:So how big of a deal is Devil's Canyon compared to Haswell? I'm pretty happy with my current X58 setup but I would love faster boot times and USB 3.0.
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May 24, 2014 07:56
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Alereon posted:As far as we know it's basically Haswell that has all the thermal advantages of delidding, improving overclocking by running cooler. If you can overclock your CPU I'd hold off for Broadwell around January. At least we'll know about the thermal performance right away as someone will definitely compare the factory setup with a proper delid on day zero.
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Alereon posted:As far as we know it's basically Haswell that has all the thermal advantages of delidding, improving overclocking by running cooler. If you can overclock your CPU I'd hold off for Broadwell around January. Broadwell is on the same socket as Haswell and Devil's Canyon yeah? And where the hell is Haswell-E? 
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Broadwell is guaranteed to be at least "unofficially supported" by Z97, similar to the situation with Devils Canyon/Refresh and Z87. I'm guessing this means we will see a Z107 or similar as the launch platform for Broadwell.
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Shaocaholica posted:At least we'll know about the thermal performance right away as someone will definitely compare the factory setup with a proper delid on day zero. Unless they did it right and soldered like Sandy Bridge, in which case we'll be looking at comparing the factory setup and a softly weeping person
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Alereon posted:Pricing for Intel's Devil's Canyon CPUs has leaked:: The Core Core i5 4690K is $254.01, the Core i7 4790K is $362.96. These CPUs are slated for launch June 2nd. Same date as the WWDC keynote... unlikely to be a coincidence.
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Well, it's also the first Monday/weekday of the month.
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HalloKitty posted:Unless they did it right and soldered like Sandy Bridge, in which case we'll be looking at comparing the factory setup and a softly weeping person Small price to pay for knowledge sought by lots of people. Plus said person/company might be baller enough to not give a poo poo.
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Shaocaholica posted:Small price to pay for knowledge sought by lots of people. Plus said person/company might be baller enough to not give a poo poo. I recall Hermitage Akihabara did some sort of article/demo back when people discovered something was amiss in Ivy. Those guys were okay.
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fookolt posted:So how big of a deal is Devil's Canyon compared to Haswell? I'm pretty happy with my current X58 setup but I would love faster boot times and USB 3.0. I know it's been answered basically, but most of the buzz around Devil's Canyon is overclocking. A factory boost of 4.4 ghz was surprising (for the 4790k). There were some Haswell's that started to be unstable at that speed at any voltage. Considering the TDP has only increased by 4 watts this could imply some positive things for overclocking other than a simple thermal fix. But that's not a good enough reason not to wait for broadwell if you're willing to wait I think
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pmchem posted:Same date as the WWDC keynote... unlikely to be a coincidence. It's also a day before Computex 2014 kicks off. Not everything revolves around Apple.
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Ignoarints posted:I know it's been answered basically, but most of the buzz around Devil's Canyon is overclocking. A factory boost of 4.4 ghz was surprising (for the 4790k). There were some Haswell's that started to be unstable at that speed at any voltage. Considering the TDP has only increased by 4 watts this could imply some positive things for overclocking other than a simple thermal fix. But that's not a good enough reason not to wait for broadwell if you're willing to wait I think Well, my needs aren't that intense. Audio production, some basic video editing, and gaming is really all I do with my computer. I think I'll just move from X58 to Haswell now and then see what next year holds  It's kind of amazing to me that it's been running stable this long anyway.
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sincx posted:I think it's sad that the days of getting significant processing gains from upgrading every 2-3 years is over. I hear you. Even upgrading a GPU is almost questionable at this stage.
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I have a non-K 2600 and am holding out for Skylake. A new GPU will probably be required meanwhile, tho, for the Oculus Rift.
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sincx posted:I think it's sad that the days of getting significant processing gains from upgrading every 2-3 years is over. Actual clock speed gains like that are no longer the norm. However clock per clock performance increases have been steady. The issue is the CPU isn't a bottleneck for most games at the moment so it might not seem like anything is happening, at least for comparable Intels made for the last few years.
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sincx posted:I think it's sad that the days of getting significant processing gains from upgrading every 2-3 years is over.  What kind of mental gymnastics does it take to consider this anything but a positive? Have you ever, even once in the past decade, been limited in any capacity whatsoever by CPU speed?
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wheez the roux posted:
Yes! My i7 920 struggles slightly at Battlefield 3 & 4 physics. But not enough that I've felt pressured into upgrading yet... I think part of me is waiting for another jump like my Athlon X2 to Conroe then again to Nehalem. Now even with money spare to waste I don't feel the need yet.
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sincx fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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