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Waffleman_ posted:Its legacy continued into at least 2002 though, it seems. 2004.
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Waffleman_ posted:Its legacy continued into at least 2002 though, it seems. I looked into it and its really weird. Apparently, Anna Miller's had an almost Hooter's style appeal to people in Japan and was almost like a proto-maid cafe. But then most of the franchises collapsed in the 90s when the bubble economy burst and I guess the rise of maid cafes was the final nail in the coffin. Really strange as the Hawaiian location is just a family style diner restaurant without any overt sexual overtones.
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# ? May 21, 2014 21:37 |
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Phanos posted:I looked into it and its really weird. Apparently, Anna Miller's had an almost Hooter's style appeal to people in Japan and was almost like a proto-maid cafe. But then most of the franchises collapsed in the 90s when the bubble economy burst and I guess the rise of maid cafes was the final nail in the coffin. Really strange as the Hawaiian location is just a family style diner restaurant without any overt sexual overtones. Just goes to show you how sexy you can make something that's not native to your culture, like French maids and Pennsylvania Dutch food.
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# ? May 21, 2014 21:39 |
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ChaosArgate posted:2004. gently caress, I got it confused with the second one.
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# ? May 21, 2014 21:40 |
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Akane route, chapter 12: The last stand 1/1: New Year's Day Goon: Hmmm, it's the start of a new year. Goon: This is Kasumi-san's card. Goon: It feels a little childish, but that's Kasumi-san for you. Happy new year! I hope this year turns out great for everyone. Goon: This is Hikari's. It's hard to believe that high school's almost over. Suddenly, there's so little time left in our high school lives. Let's make sure we don't regret any of the memories we make. Goon: This is Akane's. It's different from what I expected, but it's cute. A Happy New Year (very tiny English that I can't make out) Happy new year! Let's have another good year! Goon: This is Akai-san's. It's very, um... it's very her. Let's have a good year! There are still no words. Takumi and Jun's cards are also the same. (ding dong) Goon: Coming! Goon: (Who is it?) Goon: (OH GOD!) Soubanchou: ... Goon: Whoa whoa whoa, Soubanchou... Goon: No, I mean, uh, brother... Soubanchou: You're coming with me. Goon: Y, yes sir! Amusing etymology note: The rude/imperative way to say "Come with me" in Japanese is literally to say "Lend me your face." I find this hilarious. Goon: (Wh, what's going to happen to me?) Akane: Oh, you're here! Come on in! Goon: Akane! Akane: Sorry to pull you out of the house so early in the year. Akane: My brother said he would bring you over, and wouldn't listen to me. Soubanchou: ... Goon: Don't, uh, don't worry about it. Goon: (Does this mean he's accepted me?!) Akane: Now that everyone's here, we can start eating our osechi! Goon: (Wow! I get to start the year by eating Akane's cooking!) Goon: Thanks for the meal! Akane: Eat up! Akane: Oh yeah, remember when we played house when we were kids? Goon: Of course I do! Yes, Akane, I remember it as though it were a sepia-toned flashback ago... wait didn't we already have this flashback? Mechanically, it's because you are able to dodge the Soubanchou fight and still see this scene, though it's a bit different if you do so. Akane: Hehe, you did remember. Goon: Didn't we play until the sun went down? Goon: Oh, can you pass me that kuri kinton, Akane? Akane: Yes, dear. Akane: Oh, wow, I can't believe I said that! Soubanchou: Hey, rear end in a top hat! Soubanchou: That kuri kinton was mine! Goon: You may be my brother now, but I'm not about to hand this over! Soubanchou: You want some, punk?! Yep, it's another fight! This time, we're at the (surprisingly huge) Ichimonji house! Hey, does anyone remember that Yu-Gi-Oh! episode where they have a duel at a Chinese restaurant, and everyone's so used to Epic Duels(tm) that they just keep eating without batting an eye? Uh. I don't, either. Soubanchou: I'm drawing the line here! Soubanchou: I won't let you take this kuri kinton away from me, rear end in a top hat! Projecting much, Kaoru? Soubanchou: Do you even remember who invited you here?! This fight is exactly the same as before, so there's nothing really worth mentioning here mechanics-wise. Soubanchou: You're not happy with just Akane, you're stealing my kuri kinton too?! Defeating Soubanchou earns you "The right to eat kuri kinton" Akane: You did it! Akane: Now, no more complaints out of you, Onii-chan! "Akane: We won!" "Goon: What are you doing here? You didn't even do anything!" "Akane: An artist spent a couple days of his life modeling my haregi, we might as well use it!" Goon: Yes! That kuri kinton is mine! Goon: ...Huh? Akane: Oh, sorry. The food's all gone. Goon: Nooooooooo! 2/9: Praised for a perfect week I've skipped most of these because it's just Akane saying the same two things on repeat, but this one's different. Why? Because, with all of the Banchou-fighting we've been doing, most of the characters like Goon more than normal, leading to this unexpected development after a week of kendo practice: Goon: (This week went perfectly!) Kasumi: Wow, I underestimated you. Kasumi: You have a lot of different talents, don't you? Goon: (Awesome!) This explains why we got a New Year's card from Kasumi this run, and not in the previous run. 2/14: Valentine's day Hikari: Gunma-kun. Goon: Hey, Hikari. Hikari: Here, take this. It's chocolate. Goon: Thanks! Goon: ...It's huge. Goon: It looks like a lot of love was put into this. Hikari: Uh, well... Hikari: Gotta go! Goon: (Huh? Hikari?) Takumi: How's it going? Takumi: With your Valentine's chocolate, I mean. Goon: Not bad, I guess. Takumi: Good for you. Me, I don't seem to be getting very many because I'm a senior. Goon: Probably. Takumi: I probably can't even donate any to you... Girl: Takumi-senpai! Takumi: Yeeeessss? Girl: I made some chocolate for you, senpai! Takumi: Tee hee, thanks! Girl: Oh, Takumi-senpai, you're so cuuuute! Goon: (...They're being played.) Goon: (Hey, it's Jun.) Goon: Yo, Jun! Jun: Y, yo. Goon: You look happy. Goon: You must've gotten some chocolate from Akai-san. Jun: Y, yeah... Jun: She said she made it herself... Goon: Whoa! Jun, she's so into you! Jun: Into... me. Goon: Jun? Because Jun's twitching face is the most emotion we've seen from him this whole game, it deserves its own gif. Here you go: Jun: YEEEEEESSSSSS!! Goon: (He is such an innocent.) Akane: Hey, uh... Goon: Akane? Akane: Hey, um, if you want, uh... Akane: Would you like this? Goon: Wow, that is one huge chocolate. Akane: I worked really hard on it. Akane: I thought, "what if this is my last chance?" Goon: Last chance at what? Akane: Oh, nothing. Nothing at all. Akane: Anyway, I hope you enjoy it. Bye! Goon: (Last chance at what?) Homura: Gunma. Goon: 'Sup, Akai-san? Homura: Prepare to be amazed! Homura: Here, take this. How do you like it? Goon: W, wow. I am amazed. Is this chocolate cake? Homura: Yeah, because if I gave you a regular old chocolate, it'd be boring. Homura: Wanna split it with me later? Goon: S, sure. Goon: (That explains it. I was wondering why she gave me a #7.) Kasumi: Hey, just who I was looking for. Kasumi: You're on your way home right now, aren't you? Want to go home together? Goon: Hey, Kasumi-san. Well... Goon: Yeah, that's fine. Kasumi: Good. I wanted to talk to you about something. No, I don't know why Kasumi is wearing different clothes from last run. For comparison: Kasumi: Oh yeah, I should give you one. Kasumi: You want some chocolate too? Goon: What? Kasumi-sensei, you're giving me some? Kasumi: Yeah. It's giri chocolate, of course. Kasumi: Open up the glove compartment. Goon: Oh, okay. Kasumi: You can have the chocolate in there. Goon: Seriously? I can have it? Kasumi: As much as you want. So, how was your haul this year? Goon: N, not bad. Kasumi: Oh? "Not bad"? I wonder if my giri chocolate is the first one you got today... Goon: (You don't have to keep saying "giri" over and over.) Goon: I got 4 chocolates this year. Well, not bad. 2/18: Exams? Don't need 'em! Goon: All of the entrance exams are today. Goon: I told Kasumi-sensei that I was gonna go to college, but what do I really want to do? Option 1: Go take the college entrance exams Option 2: Take the employment exams instead Option 3: Become a kendo instructor and open my own dojo Goon did not choose the sword. The sword chose Goon. Goon: I'll become a kendo instructor and open my own dojo. Goon: I should be able to make it with my talent and abilities. Time to work hard! 2/23: Bomb warning Ha! You can't hurt me now, bombs! Later tonight: The end! vibratingsheep fucked around with this message at 07:53 on May 22, 2014 |
# ? May 22, 2014 03:17 |
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"I wish you happy and ?????, and you will be my friend forever from Akane with love" It's especially hard to make out because it's a weird font on top of being blurred, but I think that's what it says. (Akane's name really looks like M**** for example.)
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# ? May 22, 2014 04:17 |
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You know, at first, I was a bit bitter that we weren't going to hang out with Kamen Rider Stronger, but being King of the Banchos is fine by me.
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# ? May 22, 2014 04:20 |
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Akane route, final chapter As usual, I've uploaded the entire ending to YouTube, so you can see and hear everything in motion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-we_opSsBLY I especially recommend watching the beginning, as Wakamoto chews on the scenery like he was born to do it (spoiler: he was born to do it). 3/1: Graduation day Goon: I graduate today... Goon: It's the last day I'll ever wear this uniform. Goon: It's the last day I'll climb this hill as a high school student, isn't it. Goon: (Soon, the graduation ceremony will start.) Goon: (Hmm?) Jun: Hey, someone shady is looking for you! Goon: Huh? Familiar voice: Oh, there you are. Familiar voice: Hey, you. Familiar voice: You're coming with me. Goon: Part-Time Banchou? Goon: Yeah, okay. Jun: Are you gonna be alright? Jun: I'll go with you, we'll-- Goon: It'll be fine, don't worry about it. Goon: This is something I have to take care of myself... Soubanchou: You bastards! What are you doing here? Soubanchou: NOOOOOOO! AKANEEEE! Soubanchou: I, I can't let this happen! Muscle: Soubanchou! Kogarashi: Please, you have to be strong! Fireball: Think of what's best for her! Soubanchou: You'll all pay for this, you bastards! Soubanchou: Let go of me! Fireball: We need to get him out of here, fast! Kogarashi: Indeed... This way, Banchou. Part-Time: This is all we can do for you. Part-Time: The rest has to come from you, Sis. Part-Time: You'll be fine. Good luck, Akane-chan Goon: Akane. Akane: We're going to be so busy with the graduation ceremony soon, and, uh... Akane: Umm. I'm sorry to pull you away like this. Goon: Don't worry about it. Goon: What did you need to talk about? Akane: I've been such a burden on you. Akane: I'm sorry for these last three years. Goon: Why are you apologizing? Goon: Because of you, Akane, I had a lot of fun. Goon: I should be the one thanking you. Akane: I... I don't want to graduate. Goon: Why not? Akane: Well, you know I have a lot of problems at home... Akane: And I have to work all the time, so I never had time to have fun like everyone else... Akane: And you know how my brother is... Akane: I... I... Goon: ...Akane. Akane: But you always invited me out, you never got annoyed at me, and you were always there for me. Akane: Because of you, these three years have been so much fun. Akane: I can't stand the thought that today is going to pull us apart! Goon: Hey, even after we graduate, we can still see each other like we do now. Akane: That's not what I mean! Akane: Not because we go to the same school, or because we're classmates, or because we're friends... Goon: That's not true, I-- Akane: Don't say it! Akane: You don't have to, I know you're trying to be nice to me. Akane: But please, hear me out. Akane: I already gave up on it once. I thought that I couldn't do anything about it. Akane: But it didn't work. Akane: Because I realized that you were that boy-- Akane: The one I could never forget. Akane: I've spent a lot of time thinking about this. Akane: I couldn't sleep last night... Akane: That's why I decided. Akane: Goon: Huh?! Akane: I... Akane: I love you! Akane: I want to be with you forever! Goon: Ah... Goon: Akane, I-- Akane: What? Goon: I love you too. Akane: Really? Akane: In spite of who I am? Goon: Not in spite of who you are. Because of who you are. Goon: I love how you're always so optimistic and cheerful no matter what, Akane. Akane: Thank you. Akane: I'm so happy right now! Goon: Wow, the silent bell - it's ringing. Goon: It looks like God is cheering the two of us on. Akane: Yeah... I'm so happy. Akane: Goon-kun. Goon: ? Akane: I love you! (Bone-crunching noises) Goon: (Gwagh!) And that is how the curtain closed on my three years of high school. When I look back, it feels like all I did was go to Kendo practice. In any case, I'm glad that I managed to graduate. I'm going to keep honing my skills at Kendo, and teach local children the way of the sword. Oh yeah, Akane has started going to culinary school. We're on different paths now, so we may have fewer opportunities to see each other. But that just means we'll value our time together even more. I'm still pretty scared of her brother, but I think I'll just keep beating him as usual until he can't complain anymore. She's getting cuter by the day, so I'm a little worried, but we will always be able to walk our paths together. Because, like the legend this school has passed down through the years, our love will last forever. Two things. First: hurray! We now get to hear the real credits song, and not the guitar version used for secret characters! It's called Anata ni Aete, and is one of my favorites from Tokimemo. Second, while most of the info is still the same from playthrough to playthrough, we have one thing we're looking for in the credits: Takumi He said "I'm gonna become a host!" I mean, he has the looks for it, but is it really gonna be okay? Takumi's still the same. Kaedeko I hear that she works at a publishing company now, and is working hard as a writer for a crafts magazine. Takumi failed once again. Suck it, Takumi. Jun To make the best use of his talents, he went to a school with a great sports program, and seems to be working hard. C'mon c'mon c'mon Homura She got a job at Akai Orchards, and she's working hard in her own powerful way. YES! We did it, goons, Jun and Homura ended up together. Unfortunately, they don't provide too much detail on what happens to Homura and Jun after school, but I'm sure we can fill in the blanks ourselves. Everyone else has the same epilogues as before, so I'm not going to bother with that for future runs. THE END. There will be a brief intermission while I put out "carbon situations" at Fanime, followed by a poll on what you guys want me to do next with this LP!
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# ? May 22, 2014 05:10 |
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Wait, I thought Part Time Banchou was Akane. Did I miss something? Or am I just stupid?
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# ? May 22, 2014 05:32 |
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Look at their hair, it's fairly different. Then look back at the childhood updates, she's hidden in there. I had no idea either until I went back and looked. It was kind of misleading of VS to say her identity is obvious when we saw her once and never got her name. Sindai fucked around with this message at 05:49 on May 22, 2014 |
# ? May 22, 2014 05:47 |
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Sindai posted:Look at their hair, it's fairly different. quote:Holy poo poo.
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# ? May 22, 2014 06:06 |
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Please do a part-time banchou run next.
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# ? May 22, 2014 06:48 |
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It sounds like the Part-Time run is kind of boring, though? No dates, no stat requirements (other than "avoid everyone else"), just look up the list of events and reload until she shows up at the right places and times.
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# ? May 22, 2014 06:59 |
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Wait so how can you tell if your friends succeeded? Does each girl just have a "in a relationship" ending and a "not in a relationship" one?
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# ? May 22, 2014 07:17 |
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BlitzBlast posted:Wait so how can you tell if your friends succeeded? Does each girl just have a "in a relationship" ending and a "not in a relationship" one? It's based on who comes after them in the credits. Einander posted:It sounds like the Part-Time run is kind of boring, though? No dates, no stat requirements (other than "avoid everyone else"), just look up the list of events and reload until she shows up at the right places and times. Yeah, Maeka is a boring playthrough. But it's fast! By the way, I found a picture I missed while going through my footage. I'm editing chapter 12 for it, but I'm also putting it here. Soubanchou: Do you remember who invited you here?!
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# ? May 22, 2014 07:49 |
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Who did Takumi fail to impress this time?
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# ? May 22, 2014 09:06 |
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Waffleman_ posted:Holy poo poo. Well then, I completely forgot about her. I was honestly going entirely by hair color. Brown is way less common in this game than it is in real life.
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# ? May 22, 2014 09:37 |
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Hellioning posted:Well then, I completely forgot about her.
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# ? May 22, 2014 09:48 |
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You'd be surprised, a lot of folks dye it. Though for the most part the standard dye looks a little more reddish brown.
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# ? May 22, 2014 10:36 |
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Now I want a sequel that's a dojo/restaurant management action-adventure simulator featuring Gun and Akane. So whose route are we doing next?
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# ? May 22, 2014 11:23 |
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Heartwarming. The bro-est run. Based on last poll and the taste from this run, perhaps Homura next? Though I'm probably in the minority opinion who wants to actually see what Hikari's route looks like instead of pushing it back forever.
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# ? May 22, 2014 12:05 |
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booksnake posted:Heartwarming. The bro-est run. Well, I still think Mei would be pretty fun but I'd quite like see Hikari's route as well, not just because crushing her hopes every time is brutal but she's a lot more interesting than the last game's childhood friend. Actually, those in this thread with a better understanding of Japanese culture, why is the childhood friend archetype so commom in Japanese media? It's not that common in the West so I'm curious if there's an obvious cultural reason.
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# ? May 22, 2014 13:16 |
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UrbicaMortis posted:Well, I still think Mei would be pretty fun but I'd quite like see Hikari's route as well, not just because crushing her hopes every time is brutal but she's a lot more interesting than the last game's childhood friend. What are you talking about? Girl next door is totally a western archetype as well. I imagine its popular for the same reason that its popular in the west. A down-to-earth girl that's practically your best friend and knows you better than anyone. Also generally a nice girl with a good heart that loves the protagonist for who he actually is rather than whatever persona he's trying to project. Phanos fucked around with this message at 14:01 on May 22, 2014 |
# ? May 22, 2014 13:46 |
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Whoops, I didn't feature the secret character enough, especially since I haven't done any mail ordering yet. D'oh! This is what you see if you order from the Hibikino Watcher: She also snuck into Maho's route: Happy Blue posted:Who did Takumi fail to impress this time? I honestly don't know! It wasn't Akane, Homura, Kaedeko, Kasumi, Mei, or Hikari. So it was either Kotoko, Miyuki, Kaori, or Miho. We didn't see either of his events that pins it down, though. UrbicaMortis posted:Well, I still think Mei would be pretty fun but I'd quite like see Hikari's route as well, not just because crushing her hopes every time is brutal but she's a lot more interesting than the last game's childhood friend. From the Tokimemo 2 introduction post: I posted:Why are the Japanese so fixated on childhood friends, anyway? vibratingsheep fucked around with this message at 15:27 on May 22, 2014 |
# ? May 22, 2014 15:24 |
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That ending was so sweet. Also, I think next we're gonna vote on whether we want to continue on with TM3 & TM4, or keep going on with TM2. That's a hard decision.
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# ? May 22, 2014 18:02 |
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Poulpe posted:"I wish you happy and ?????, "you happy and success" - it's a blackletter font, so it's tricky to make out, yes.
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# ? May 22, 2014 18:13 |
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Not to hype but my spouse just finished the Hikari route and I got a lil' misty-eyed at it. Also, the Kotoko route is pretty sweet and sour. This game is amazing, I know you're gonna keep going but thank you so much for sharing all this with us, Sheep.
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# ? May 22, 2014 18:29 |
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I really like this route, especially the ending. I played a bunch of Girl's Side 1 after reading this LP and had a lot of fun, but often found that the endings felt kind of disconnected from the rest of the game (usually because they tried too hard to force the magical true love legend into it). Akane's ending just fit her perfectly and still worked in the magical bell. And of course, everything involving Soubancho was amazing. I do hope we see more of Tokimeki 2 before continuing though. I'm really curious about why 3 is so terrible, but there are just so many really interesting characters in 2 that we've barely even seen.
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# ? May 22, 2014 19:25 |
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A few details about the Akane route's characters, garnered from supplementary sources:
The dialogue in Akane's C ending ends this way: quote:Goon: By the way, that girl in the sunglasses called you Sis. What's that about? The official character popularity poll rankings: 1) Hikari 2) Kaori 3) Kasumi 4) Homura 5) Mei 6) Akane 7) Baseball 8) Miyuki 9) Miho 10) Kotoko Hikari won by a pretty big margin. There was a big gap between Kaori and Kasumi. 4-6 and 7-9 were really tightly packed together. And since so many people liked Hikari, Kotoko is a pretty dead last. vibratingsheep fucked around with this message at 20:01 on May 22, 2014 |
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Why is Kaori so popular? See seems like a rather boring character compared to the rest. I don't know anything about her, but she looks like the "damaged girl who we save with the power of true love" archetype. I guess that's a popular one or something?
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# ? May 22, 2014 20:47 |
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vibratingsheep posted:[list] Nice to see that Ryo and King finally tied the knot after all those years. (I couldn't think of a love interest for Ryu, nor are there any female characters who are canonically stronger or consistently tiered higher than him)
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# ? May 22, 2014 21:02 |
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Phanos posted:Why is Kaori so popular? See seems like a rather boring character compared to the rest. I don't know anything about her, but she looks like the "damaged girl who we save with the power of true love" archetype. I guess that's a popular one or something? This seem a bit too dark for Tokimeki Memorial. My guess is that she actually plays the quiet type who enjoys being with animals, at least according to the more common tropes I've seen in anime. Nemo Somen fucked around with this message at 22:16 on May 22, 2014 |
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Nemo Somen posted:This seem a bit too dark for Tokimeki Memorial. My guess is that she actually plays the quiet type who enjoys being with animals, at least according to the more common tropes I've seen in anime. Kaori is a hard run, but I think it's her reveal of why she is the way she is that made people emphasize with her. She's so popular she got her own manga story because Fans didn't want the sad ending that happens when you ignore her to be so but also knew Tokimemo 2's OTP was Protag-Kun + Hikari. Her main theme is trust, and that's all I'm gonna say without spoiling things. But as an aside, I think I she'd be very much a Japanese vs American fandom split. I suspect she'd be offputting for Americans as it takes her a really long time to warm up to you and Americans are impatient.
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# ? May 22, 2014 22:35 |
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I'm surprised Hikari scored so high. Nowadays the "canon" love interest would never be at the top (though still in a respectable position like the top 5). It doesn't hurt that from what we've seen of her, Hikari isn't exactly as boring as the usual childhood friend characters.
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# ? May 23, 2014 05:34 |
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Kay Kessler posted:I'm surprised Hikari scored so high. Nowadays the "canon" love interest would never be at the top (though still in a respectable position like the top 5). It doesn't hurt that from what we've seen of her, Hikari isn't exactly as boring as the usual childhood friend characters. To be fair, Hikari gets the most unique events (I think) and is probably the easiest character ending to get. So most people probably get her ending the first time they play the game. Also helps that she's a pretty good character. Keep in mind that Shiori also dominated the top of the popularity polls for the first game and she was super uninteresting compared to nearly the entire rest of the cast of the first Tokimeki Memorial.
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# ? May 23, 2014 06:10 |
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vibratingsheep posted:There are a few things at work here. The fact that this extra layer of meaning is possible is actually quite fascinating! Thanks.
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# ? May 23, 2014 14:29 |
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Speaking of Hikari, vibratingsheep, when/if you decide to do her run would it be feasible to complete while meeting every other girl? I figure if the run is so easy anyway and we've seen bits and pieces of her story you may as well add some challenge. (If there's enough unique content for just her run this isn't necessary of course- I just thought it might be interesting)
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# ? May 23, 2014 16:44 |
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I have a question for the thread, what happens if you trigger the Part Time Bancho fight while dating her?
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# ? May 23, 2014 19:57 |
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I think it was mentioned earlier that there are no dates on her route.
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# ? May 29, 2024 05:43 |
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Nemo Somen posted:This seem a bit too dark for Tokimeki Memorial. My guess is that she actually plays the quiet type who enjoys being with animals, at least according to the more common tropes I've seen in anime. "Love interest with traumatic past who eventually learns how to love again" is a very very common character type in Tokimeki Memorial. Some of it's pretty light ("my special talent is the only thing people care about, nobody actually knows me") and some of it less so ("I'm just a burden on my loved ones and I don't feel alive so I do lots of risky poo poo to get attention").
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# ? May 23, 2014 22:18 |