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a dozen swans posted:Let's all look at how pretty the new Rout art is. Isn't Norn supposed to be like 8+ feet tall? The perspective makes her look a lot shorter there. It is nice that Igor did both versions. His Norn art is one of my favorites, and his version is a lot better than Swanland's will ever be.
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Madmarker posted:That's the thing, he isn't that bad........for the time he was printed. Creatures sucked in old magic, they got better. Hey now, there were plenty of creatures that were good in Old Magic. It just so happened they were degenerate combo enablers that were attached to a creature body. "Goblin Recruiter, though, he was a chump. No way anybody was gonna break that." - me circa 1997 Mercury Crusader fucked around with this message at 22:11 on May 22, 2014 |
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Everblight posted:I still can't believe how badKangee is. 2UW for a 2/2 legendary Flier? Already worse than Wind Drake. But wait! For the low low sum of 5UW you can get a 3/3 flier! That makes other 1/1's into 2/2's! Symmetrically! In Masques/Invasion standard, for FNM I played a domain deck that mostly won with Ordered Migration but also included a copy of Kangee because it was hilarious
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# ? May 22, 2014 22:14 |
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Skimming through stuff for the possible read through of Purifying Fire (I'll give it a rest before I pour posts into the thread again, don't worry). A bit of an insight into Tarkir for you, thanks to Sarkhan being mad: Also I had totally forgotten that Young Pyromancer was based on an already existing character.
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# ? May 22, 2014 22:22 |
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Bugsy posted:Isn't Norn supposed to be like 8+ feet tall? The perspective makes her look a lot shorter there. It is nice that Igor did both versions. His Norn art is one of my favorites, and his version is a lot better than Swanland's will ever be. the guy posted about the art on the spoiler thread. He said making her taller was throwing off the composition of the piece
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# ? May 22, 2014 22:22 |
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Elesh norn's only 8 feet tall? I always thought it was about the size of a cathedral, since the original art looks like the inside of one. Doesn't help that it has the stats of a titan.
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Mercury Crusader posted:Hey now, there were plenty of creatures that were good in Old Magic. To be fair, the card was not breakable with the cards that existed in 1997.
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# ? May 22, 2014 22:27 |
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Elyv posted:To be fair, the card was not breakable with the cards that existed in 1997. Oh yeah, definitely, but it's still weird to me that it was once this weird card that didn't really do much and now it's banned in Legacy. Back when Onslaught block kicked in and Goblins were the red tribal of choice, I knew Goblin Recruiter was ready for action. Chill la Chill posted:Elesh norn's only 8 feet tall? I always thought it was about the size of a cathedral, since the original art looks like the inside of one. Doesn't help that it has the stats of a titan. The stats on some creatures/legends are weird when I think about it. Emmara Tandris is 5/7 for whatever reason, though I don't know the lore behind her. For all I know she really can punch a Craw Wurm to death barehanded. Mercury Crusader fucked around with this message at 22:32 on May 22, 2014 |
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Flavour Emmara has Voice of Resurgence's card text, basically. It kind of amazes me that they only worked out that they wanted all the guild champions to be one rarity (and that they wouldn't let Ral bugger stuff up by being a 'walker as opposed to the other creatures) so late, and that the resultant changes screwed so much up. I think Bayer in the books just said "sod it" and ploughed ahead with her ability to summon massive elementals - likewise, they couldn't get new art in time. Sleep of Bronze fucked around with this message at 23:02 on May 22, 2014 |
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a dozen swans posted:Let's all look at how pretty the new Rout art is. Elesh Norn really does have the best design. The Praetors are all cool, but she really has an "Angelic but also totally and horrifyingly alien" thing going on that just knocks it out of the park. I hope we get more card art with her on it.
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# ? May 22, 2014 22:58 |
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Her only weakness is doorways.
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# ? May 22, 2014 23:00 |
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Entropic posted:Her only weakness is doorways. It's a folding hat. Really convenient like that. Doubles a boomerang too.
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# ? May 22, 2014 23:01 |
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Mercury Crusader posted:The stats on some creatures/legends are weird when I think about it. Emmara Tandris is 5/7 for whatever reason, though I don't know the lore behind her. For all I know she really can punch a Craw Wurm to death barehanded. Power doesn't necessarily mean punching strength. A character with small stature could have high power because they use magic or have superior skill at fighting or something.
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# ? May 22, 2014 23:08 |
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Applebees posted:Power doesn't necessarily mean punching strength. A character with small stature could have high power because they use magic or have superior skill at fighting or something. Exactly. This is why the fat neckbeard in a trilby would be a mighty legend if he were a Magic card, because he is skilled in the way of bushido* magic. *he probably still didn't like Kamigawa block
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# ? May 22, 2014 23:12 |
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Kenzo the hard-hearted is a beast in combat. 5/6 double strike. Eat poo poo tarmogoyf
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# ? May 22, 2014 23:13 |
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And yet Creative killed a 12/12 Human card for Hercules, because a human tribal character shouldn't be that big. drat you, Beyer!
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# ? May 22, 2014 23:14 |
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Applebees posted:Power doesn't necessarily mean punching strength. A character with small stature could have high power because they use magic or have superior skill at fighting or something. I like to imagine that she can throw a mean right hook.
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# ? May 22, 2014 23:14 |
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Elyv posted:To be fair, the card was not breakable with the cards that existed in 1997.
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# ? May 22, 2014 23:19 |
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Spiderdrake posted:I dunno, three goblins attacking for 15+ damage on turn 4 was sort of a thing by the standards of the day. Man, I do not know my old decks as well as I thought I did. How did you do that in 1997?
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# ? May 22, 2014 23:28 |
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Does anyone know of any good places to start if I want to build a cheap cube that I can then start adding more expensive cards to? I don;t mean a pauper cube, as I'm happy to use rares as long as they don't destroy my bank balance.
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Elyv posted:Man, I do not know my old decks as well as I thought I did. How did you do that in 1997? I think Song still sees play in pauper sometimes.
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newtestleper posted:Does anyone know of any good places to start if I want to build a cheap cube that I can then start adding more expensive cards to? I don;t mean a pauper cube, as I'm happy to use rares as long as they don't destroy my bank balance. Ways to build a budget cube, from cheapest to most expensive: -throw together 360 cards you own and get your play group to suggest substitutions, then trade for those -just proxy anything expensive (someone I know has a Highlighter Cube - you could probably find somewhere to bulk print in colour if you looked) -build a genuinely cheap cube where you actually own almost all of the cards (and then proxy up a really nice manabase) If you're looking for a list of generally cheap cube-tier cards, I found this post invaluable. e: also, get decent(or better) sleeves. a dozen swans fucked around with this message at 00:06 on May 23, 2014 |
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Spiderdrake posted:You cast Song of Blood, which was printed in the same set. Your one drop, two drop and three drop all get +4/+0. Unrelated, but the coolest thing was when Odyssey came out and people tried to use Song of Blood in Extended to make a threshold beatdown deck. It actually got played at a Pro Tour, I think. Mind you, this was when PT teams and playtesting weren't quite as tight as today. I want to say I've heard that Song was slated for reprinting in Odyssey block itself but they removed it at the last minute, same with Mulch. That might just be an urban legend though. Ahh, the days when Extended was Ice Age and up (plus duals).
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Elyv posted:Man, I do not know my old decks as well as I thought I did. How did you do that in 1997? I'm not sure about 15 Damage turn 4. But you could be pretty aggressive back in the day with Mogg Flunkies, Mogg Conscripts, Goblin Shrine, and Goblin King. Many a teen in 1998 thought they'd broken the game with a similar deck before going to their LGS and getting crushed by Necro or something equally degenerate.
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# ? May 23, 2014 00:03 |
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Sligh beat necro. I'm pretty sure that was the point of sligh and what got people qualified.JerryLee posted:I want to say I've heard that Song was slated for reprinting in Odyssey block itself but they removed it at the last minute, same with Mulch. That might just be an urban legend though. I've never heard the mulch thing but I can remember talking about mulch being an avenue for adding card advantage to green back in those days. It surprises me realizing I believed in the color pie existing back then. Sort of like thinking back and realizing you used to be catholic by accident or something.
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JerryLee posted:Unrelated, but the coolest thing was when Odyssey came out and people tried to use Song of Blood in Extended to make a threshold beatdown deck. It actually got played at a Pro Tour, I think. Mind you, this was when PT teams and playtesting weren't quite as tight as today. I remember reading the same thing, they thought it was too powerful. The Extended days I miss are when I started following competitive Magic, which was around Darksteel. There were like 15 different viable decks; sure, most of them were combo decks, but there were some really interesting ones. Also RDW was viable and any format with a viable RDW/Sligh deck has to be pretty good.
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Cactrot posted:I bet if EDH talk were in it's own thread it would quickly plummet to the bottom of the forum. People only talk about EDH to complain about EDH being dumb. Let's find out, here's the new Commander Thread! Please redirect all qualms and praise for the beloved format there.
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Spiderdrake posted:You cast Song of Blood, which was printed in the same set. Your one drop, two drop and three drop all get +4/+0. Still the greatest tournament report of all time. "How I won the Mid-Atlantic regionals with my Song of Blood Deck" John M. Shuler posted:Hey there folks, I'll kill the suspense with my catchy title.
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BXCX posted:Let's find out, here's the new Commander Thread! Please redirect all qualms and praise for the beloved format there. I think you missed a critical time to use 'strictly better', but regardless thanks for the new thread!
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Armageddon being printed at Mythic for Vintage Masters.
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mcnealys baby posted:Armageddon being printed at Mythic for Vintage Masters. Kind of annoying, but I don't think I want to see Armageddon showing up very often in draft.
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The Lord of Hats posted:Elesh Norn really does have the best design. The Praetors are all cool, but she really has an "Angelic but also totally and horrifyingly alien" thing going on that just knocks it out of the park. I hope we get more card art with her on it. Her whole faction of white Phyrexians has the creepy porcelain-plates-grafted-directly-onto-bare-flesh look. It's definitely a very cool and nasty design that really sells the "White Villain" concept. I just realized that the unfortunate victims in the art are turning to porcelain and shattering. Ouch.
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# ? May 23, 2014 02:36 |
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IGN posted a video of Duels of the Planeswalkers 2015, and there are some interesting cards: It's hard to make out, but it looks like the returning mechanic this year is Convoke. I thought that would be the returning mechanic in M13 but hey two years off ain't bad.
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# ? May 23, 2014 03:01 |
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So who called Convoke again? I know someone did with the whole seeded Inspired thing.
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# ? May 23, 2014 03:03 |
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Looking at it again I think that black spell is called "Flesh to Blood" which is
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# ? May 23, 2014 03:06 |
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Looks like "Flesh to Dust" to me
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# ? May 23, 2014 03:07 |
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Attorney at Funk posted:Looks like "Flesh to Dust" to me A man can dream, can't he?
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# ? May 23, 2014 03:09 |
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"Cruel Sadist" is offensively pleonastic.
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# ? May 23, 2014 03:10 |
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jscolon2.0 posted:And yet Creative killed a 12/12 Human card for Hercules, because a human tribal character shouldn't be that big. drat you, Beyer! More than 5 combined P/T? Whoa that can't be a human soldier gotta be a catperson or an elf to do that guys.
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Using my power of squinting real hard, I got this. I might be off. Shadowcloak Vampire 4B (I think) Creature - Vampire Pay 2 life: Shadowcloak Vampire gains flying until end of turn. 4/3 Cruel Sadist B Creature - Human Assassin B, T, Pay 1 life: Put a +1/+1 counter on Cruel Sadist. 1B, T, remove X +1/+1 counters from Cruel Sadist: Cruel Sadist deals X damage to target creature. 1/1 Triplicate Spirits 4WW (I think) Sorcery Convoke Put three 1/1 white Spirit creatures with flying onto the battlefield. Flesh to Dust 2BB Instant Destroy target creature. It can't be regenerated. Seraph of the Masses 5WW Creature - Angel Convoke Flying Seraph of the Masses's power and toughness are each equal to the number of creatures you control. */*
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