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mr. mephistopheles: Dec 2, 2009

Intel&Sebastian posted:

I think they're sincere about school choice, they just want all the choices to be terrible, profitable and maybe a little bit Jesus.

Voters, yeah. Legislators, though? If they actually care about choice it's a distant second to profitability.

# ? May 22, 2014 17:40

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# ? Jun 4, 2024 16:12

Lessail: Apr 1, 2011; tell me how vgk aren't playing like shit again

p.s. help my grapes are so sour!

SedanChair posted:

Wow is "intersex" somehow tumblr SJW now?

everything is tumblr bow down before it

# ? May 22, 2014 18:18

happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

VitalSigns posted:

I think "vouchers" is right-wing code for "don't allow the government to negotiate price like an insurance company" so the medical industry can bill the government for all they want while still denying care to the sick when their vouchers don't cover the full inflated sucker price.

Radish posted:

"Vouchers" is just the magical republican cure all to any governmental issue. You still have the government paying for it (since even they know charity isn't going to cover squat and someone has to foot the bill for things we are accustomed to like social security and education) but the glorious private industry provides the service since they are always more efficient. I don't think it's any more thought out than another cash grab where they funnel public money into the pockets of their friends.

There is also the evil intent in the long term of 'vouchers'.
The Right Wing are touting them today as it's sounds like they are helping give people money.
If Obamacare was overturned and a voucher system set up, how easy and quick would you think they would reduce the amount of the voucher each year?
Sure they will give it 10-20 years of $8000 vouchers, but then it would be lowered, and lowered, until voted out and hey presto back to ye goode olde broken insurance system again.

Vouchers are bait and switch.

# ? May 22, 2014 18:25

quiggy: Aug 7, 2010; [in Russian] Oof.

SedanChair posted:

Wow is "intersex" somehow tumblr SJW now?

"Tumblr" now means "gender-related terminology I don't know" hope that helps.

# ? May 22, 2014 18:26

FMguru: Sep 10, 2003; peed on;
sexually

happyhippy posted:

Vouchers are bait and switch.

Yep, just like "block grant" Medicaid to the states.

The next economic downturn, the next budget crisis, guess what gets trimmed in the name of "tightening our belts" and "learning to live within our means"?

# ? May 22, 2014 18:30

Intel&Sebastian: Oct 20, 2002; colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Interesting bit here from a great American:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/22/1301242/-Issa-releases-email-excerpt-supporting-White-House-on-Benghazi

quote:

House Republicans may have already decided to move their #Benghazi conspiracy theorizing to another venue, but Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa can't stop chasing himself down the rabbit hole. Here's his latest attempt to stay relevant:

A still-classified State Department e-mail says that one of the first responses from the White House to the Benghazi attack was to contact YouTube to warn of the �ramifications� of allowing the posting of an anti-Islamic video, according to Rep. Darrell Issa, the Republican chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. [note: Dkos has this part formatted as if it's a quote from another story but there's no external link on it]

It turns out the attack was not a spontaneous response to the video, but the email shows that the administration genuinely believed their initial view that it was. Hardly the stuff of scandal�in fact, it's quite the opposite�but it does raise an interesting question:

[the following is some rando's twitter posting]
Did Issa mess up & accidently prove WH point? Or intentionally throwing tantrum to undercut Gowdy since he's not on select comm?

I think it's too much to hope that Issa did this as a poo poo fit for basically being told he's a complete failure on this exact issue, but I really don't see any apparent reason to release it

# ? May 22, 2014 20:03

thefncrow: Mar 14, 2001

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Interesting bit here from a great American:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/22/1301242/-Issa-releases-email-excerpt-supporting-White-House-on-Benghazi

I think it's too much to hope that Issa did this as a poo poo fit for basically being told he's a complete failure on this exact issue, but I really don't see any apparent reason to release it

I would guess that it's because while that looks to justify the administration's sincere belief that the video was behind it to normal people, the crazies see that memo and think "Aha! More proof of Obama trying to push a blatantly false cover story!"

# ? May 22, 2014 20:08

Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

Darkman Fanpage posted:

O'Keefe might be investigated by the FBI.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fbi-urged-investigate-james-okeefes-706353

More important question, what the hell is O'Keefe doing at Cannes?

Zeroisanumber posted:

Maybe? The VA system is notorious for slow, badly delivered medical service. Setting up a government-run insurance program for Vets and then moving them into the public hospital system isn't a terrible solution to the problem.

Do you spend much time at VA hospitals? Putting them into the general health care ecosystem would not work very well, unless thousands of psychologists nationwide are interested in getting training on PTSD issues. Shinseki got the VA to finally move to a nationwide computer system and has made a number of other changes that seem to have really helped people in the system.

The VA has come a long way in the past decade and they've still got a ways to go, but the system was actually starting to recover from all the cuts that happened in the 90's. Also remember that the Nehmer suit against the VA has been adding hundreds of thousands of vets to the roster that weren't previously there. In 2010, they literally had to get every single soldier that was in Vietnam screened for heart related issues. Combining all of those vets with the numbers coming back from OIF/OEF created massive issues that it appears many hospitals were unable to handle. Unfortunately, people seem to have died unnecessarily.

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This is oddly similar to the GOP whining about Americans dying in Benghazi after actively attempting to block extra funding. The right has spent decades trying to cut the VA's budget and now they're suddenly upset that something bad happened? Sorry but you can't spend your entire political career trying to convince people that government is the problem (tm) and then act all surprised when there's a problem. Well, I guess you can if the media never calls you on it, but it's still frustrating.

Sir Tonk fucked around with this message at 20:25 on May 22, 2014

# ? May 22, 2014 20:20

McNerd: Aug 28, 2007

Intel&Sebastian posted:

I think it's too much to hope that Issa did this as a poo poo fit for basically being told he's a complete failure on this exact issue, but I really don't see any apparent reason to release it

I assume everyone on the Benghazi investigation committee would have eventually seen these records and had the same chance to leak this information, and any Democrat on that committee would immediately have done so? Issa may have been hoping the Democrats would boycott the committee as a form of protest (as some had speculated) and the Republican members would keep quiet, so this might never come out. But the Democrats just announced whom they will be sending, so Issa may have decided to release the information himself as damage control.

# ? May 22, 2014 20:27

The Bunk: Sep 15, 2007; Oh, I just don't know
where to begin.; Fun Shoe

Sir Tonk posted:

More important question, what the hell is O'Keefe doing at Cannes?

Bought a ticket to France so the Tea Party News Network could say something like

TPNN posted:

O�Keefe, whose hidden camera work previously exposed corruption at both ACORN and NPR, premiered his latest blockbuster, �Expose: Hollywood�s War on U.S. Energy� at the Cannes Film Festival on Wednesday.

It's not like it was a festival selection or anything, but The Hollywood Reporter picked up on it so I guess it worked to a certain extent.

# ? May 22, 2014 20:37

woke wedding drone: Jun 1, 2003; by exmarx; Fun Shoe

quote:

Expose: Hollywood�s War on U.S. Energy

Who bankrolled that film, I wonder? Oh wait, I'm fresh out of wonder.

# ? May 22, 2014 20:52

beatlegs: Mar 11, 2001

Zeroisanumber posted:

Maybe? The VA system is notorious for slow, badly delivered medical service.

There are long waiting lists, which are due to lack of resources and funding, but the actual medical service vets receive in the VA once they see a doctor is very good. Long waiting lists are also due to the fact that we have constantly been at war since 2003. Iraq produced a huge amount of wounded/traumatized vets which basically overloaded the system, and congress (GOP) has refused to increase VA resources to meet the demand. Maddow did a fantastic rundown of this issue in her first segment last night:

http://on.msnbc.com/1qWwUkY

# ? May 22, 2014 21:01

BornAPoorBlkChild: Sep 24, 2012

time for some good old British nationalism!

Positive Nationalism... sure.

quote:

Nick Griffin MEP is pushing for the newly formed Alliance of European Nationalist Movements to take concrete steps to present nationalist MEPs and their parties in a more positive light. "Despite decades of systematic dehumanisation and vilification," says Nick, "public sympathy for nationalists is growing all over Europe.

that sure is some irony!

http://www.bnp.org.uk/news/national/science-our-side

quote:

Science Is On Our Side

By Joshua Tindall - The left seem to love using the argument that we all have ancestors who are African, so it is foolish to be an ethno-nationalist! As many of you will know, when this claim is studied further, it actually supports ethno-nationalist theory. Oh the irony...

The theory of evolution has pretty much proven that we all originated as a single-cell organism. Does that mean we are all single-cell organisms? No! The same can be said for us all having African ancestors!

Divergence and the path evolved is what is important, not the source. Where we came from is not even near as important as where we went and how we developed and changed to survive our new challenges.

From Africa, many early humans moved to different climates, and this caused different types of evolution to take place (differences in the rate of breeding, differences in intelligence, differences in aggressiveness, etcetera).

These differences are what makes the world we live in so diverse today. The cultures that enrich this world are not coincidental; cultures are different because the peoples making the different cultures are different.

Are these differences not worth preserving? If we allow the mixing of peoples to continue, then the genuine global diversity will be destroyed. Multiculturalism and multiracialism is not beneficial, it causes all of the peoples and cultures to form together as a mongrel people and mongrel culture. Mixing many positive things together doesn't always produce something positive.

Who does this social experiment benefit? Our masters! If there is only one people and one culture, then the New World Order is easier to obtain. We're easier to control, and for the sake of the greedy profiteers, we're easier to sell to. One people, one culture, one currency, one customer and one government - that is the aim!

The nations that consist of people of European descent are the first to be attacked by these monsters who only seek to control. We, as the distinct nations and peoples of Europe, America and other white nations, must resist the forces that seek to destroy us.

We are nationalists - the true protectors of genuine diversity.

# ? May 22, 2014 21:02

kik2dagroin: Mar 23, 2007; Use the anger. Use it.

quote:

CALLER: Hi, Rush. Thanks for taking my call.

CALLER: This is Cranbury, New Jersey, b-u-r-y. Our American post office, our US post office here is called the Todd Beamer Post Office. Remember him?

RUSH: Oh, Todd Beamer, yeah, "Let's roll."

CALLER: Okay, he brought it down. The reason why Americans tend to give President Obama the benefit of the doubt is because he got the bad guy. He got Osama Bin Laden. Now, you used the word before "ignorance." Of course the root word of "ignorance" is "ignore." Americans aren't gonna ignore the fact that President Obama was not the one that sent us into Iraq for no reason. And then, furthermore, me and my wife pay $16,000 a year for health insurance. I'm a proud American, Rush. I don't want it for free. I understand the free market system. I can afford maybe seven, five, but $16,000, I'm being victimized, and I don't like it. And at least President Obama pretends or says that he's concerned about the fact that I'm being victimized.

RUSH: Yeah.

CALLER: I don't want the government to run the health care system, but I don't want to be victimized.

RUSH: Now, you are explaining to me how an Obama supporter would look at this or how you look at it?

CALLER: How I look at it, Rush. I'm paying the $1600 a month and it's a major health insurance company.

RUSH: Now, are you telling me that -- so you're a seminar caller. You think that Obama is getting a pass because he got bin Laden and because he's fighting the insurance companies, they're the bad guys, they're the reason you're paying 16 grand, and Obama is doing battle with 'em?

CALLER: Rush, in Cranbury we could smell the buildings burning. Anybody can go on YouTube and bring up President Bush saying that he didn't even care where Osama Bin Laden was. These things were important to Americans. That's why we're patriots. My father stormed the beaches of Okinawa. You don't just ignore the one who attacked you.

RUSH: Okay. So I got it, I got it. You have been very helpful. You've been very helpful. I would in no way ever assume an intelligent person thinks the way you do. But, I have had to deal with it here in this call, because what you are telling me is that Obama's getting a pass on all this 'cause he didn't send us into Iraq, Bush did, and he got bin Laden, and Bush didn't even care about bin Laden. He didn't care where bin Laden was. And now you're paying $16,000 a year for health insurance, and, by God, Obama's not happy about it, and he knows you're being victimized by the evil insurance companies and so Obama, he's getting your vote, he's getting your support because he's on your side.
...
PELOSI: Maybe when we go into war we should be thinking about its consequences and its ramifications. You would think that would be a given, but maybe it wasn't. And so we go into a war in Iraq -- go into Afghanistan, leave Afghanistan for Iraq with unfinished business in Afghanistan. Ten years later, we have all of these additional veterans. In the past five years, two million more veterans needing benefits from the VA. That's a huge, huge increase.

RUSH: So you see, Bush. Ten years later, we have all these additional veterans. So this anger that you just heard on CNN, this incredulity, they're gonna blame it on Bush, unnecessary wars. We didn't need a war to get bin Laden. Osama was killed by Obama without a war, we didn't need a war. Bush, these two wars, they were wasted, and now all of these wounded vets are coming back, and poor Obama, he can't handle the load. Nobody could, because it was Bush's fault.

This is where they're gonna take this. Folks, they're getting away with blaming Bush for everything else. I mean, the public, 51-49, still blames Bush for the economy, not Obama. You just heard this guy from Cranbury, New Jersey. His insurance premiums are $16,000 a year precisely because of Obamacare. He's blaming Bush. And he's applauding Obama 'cause he thinks Obama is sticking it to the insurance companies, getting even with 'em. Everybody hates the insurance companies, Obama does too, and he's getting even with them for us. Wait 'til this guy finds out Obama's gonna bail them out so they can continue to charge him $16,000 a year.

But I remember, ladies and gentlemen, when the Democrats used to pretend we had to fight in Afghanistan. Remember, the whole time we're in Iraq, the Democrats said, "This is the wrong war. We don't need to be here. We need to be in Afghanistan. Afghanistan is where that war was launched. Afghanistan is where bin Laden is, Afghanistan." They couldn't wait to get into Afghanistan. But the wars are irrelevant. The problem is the covering up, the lying, the hidden waiting list, people dying because of the lying.

They're not dying because of the wars. They're not denying because of Bush. They're dying because the VA can't handle it and so they're coming up with hidden waiting lists and any number of other things to cover up the inability to handle treatment. And the people at the VA wanted to keep getting their bonuses, and the bonuses were rooted in numbers of people treated. So they had to doctor the waiting list to make it look like more people were moving off the waiting lists and getting treated, which is why they set up the secret waiting lists. They transferred people to those to get 'em off the main waiting list to make it look like they'd been processed.

That's why the waiting lists were secret, so nobody could find them. But the lid blew and people have found out about it now because of a whistleblower who has told everybody what was going on. Bush didn't do any of this. The Republicans didn't do any of this. The Democrats own the Veterans Administration, right now. Shinseki and these guys have been running it since Obama was immaculated. But nevertheless we now know that there are plenty of really, really ignorant, gullible people who just want to blame Bush for all this, so much has their hatred been ginned up, so much do they hate Bush. I mean, it took the media six years to make it happen, or five, but they pulled it off.
...
RUSH: Mike in Washington, you're next. Great to have you here, sir, on the EIB Network. Hello.

CALLER: Thanks, Rush. How are you?

RUSH: I'm great. Glad you called.

CALLER: Listen, I want to talk about this VA fiasco. I lay the whole thing right at Obama's and Democrat Party's feet. Obama, for six years has been cutting budgets, cutting budgets, and it sure as heck hasn't been the food stamp budget he's been cutting. If you want to go back even further, sometime in the early nineties, early in the Clinton administration, there was a big move on to convert VA beds to AIDS beds. You may remember it. The Clinton administration wanted to close down VA hospitals for AIDS patients.

RUSH: Yeah, I was gonna ask, "What do you think would be the case if...?" (chuckles) Well, never mind.

CALLER: You don't want to answer to that question.

RUSH: Yeah. If AIDS were involved in this VA scandal, what do you think would be the reaction? Do you think there'd be any delays and secret waiting lists and all that?

CALLER: There wouldn't be any delays.

RUSH: No. Not at all.

CALLER: The idea was to take it away from people who earned the right to the bed and give it to people who didn't earn the right to the bed.

RUSH: Well, I don't know about "didn't," but it's clear that Democrats are gonna pander to donors and constituency groups here

CALLER: Yup.

RUSH: You know, one of the most recent callers said, "Look, Obama doesn't like military people, they don't vote for him, and so they're not gonna be at the top of his list," like you say food stamp recipients will be.

CALLER: And there's not that many of us anymore.

RUSH: Veterans, you mean?

CALLER: Yeah. I mean, World War II had 15 million people in uniform. Vietnam had --

RUSH: Now, wait a minute. Wait a minute. You heard her. Nancy Pelosi today is saying that we got two wars, two unnecessary wars worth of wounded veterans.

CALLER: Yeah, right --

RUSH: And that they're flooding the VA system. (crosstalk)

CALLER: -- military manpower business. She's so full of it you won't even want to talk about it.

RUSH: (laughing) Well, you don't have to convince me. But she did, she's out there saying that these two unnecessary wars have flooded the VA with wounded that we wouldn't otherwise have had. And yet you're saying that this number pales in comparison to World War II vets, obviously true.

CALLER: Well, yeah, it's like the fire department. You don't close down the fire department because you have a couple of good years with no fires. You don't close down the VA because you have a couple of good administrations with not many veterans needing the facilities. But you've got to be there when it's needed. And the Democrat Party keeps squeezing, squeezing. When we have a time of relative peace, they squeeze it down, and then they scream and holler when there's not enough when something gets hot. It's mindless. It's insane.

RUSH: This screaming and hollering, though, it's phony baloney, plastic banana, good-time rock 'n' roll anyway. I mean, they're complaining about it because it's a scandal. I mean, Obama had to go out and act mad about it. If he really was mad, it wouldn't have taken all these years to show it. But look, he's got a point here, folks, Mike does, because World War II vets, this is gonna shock you. World War II veterans were 11% of the American population back then. We're nowhere near that number, percentage-wise, today, with Afghanistan and Iraq and whatever other deployments there have been in the War on Terror.

Eleven percent of the population, World War II vets. Nowhere near that now. But I do think, you know, we'll find out soon enough, but the Democrats, they're still goaled in blaming George W. Bush for whatever. And Pelosi's little press conference this morning sets the stage for what I think Obama's unnecessary investigation -- it's like this Drew Griffin guy at CNN said yesterday when Obama announced the investigation, he actually went on CNN. I'm surprised he was back today. He went on CNN, said, "What do you mean investigate? We already know what happened here. We know about the secret lists. We know about the deaths. We know that people aren't being treated. What do you mean, investigate?"

Well, Pelosi's little presser today told us why. They're gonna do an investigation, they're gonna find out the VA has been flooded with injured and wounded vets because of two unnecessary wars started by George W. Bush. And that's all they're gonna have to say. They're into turnout here, folks. They've got to find something to turn people out. They can't turn people out in November saying, "Vote for us so you can keep on getting more of this," 'cause nobody wants more of what they've offered.

So they've got to scare everybody about the Republicans and what they're gonna do and how bad and mean they are, and Bush works magic in that regard. So just keep a sharp eye. (interruption) What was your question, Snerdley? 'Cause it's veterans. The reason they're worried that this could really hurt: veterans, veterans being wounded, veterans dying, veterans not being treated. That crosses party lines in most parts of the country.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/05/22/seminar_caller_tips_off_democrat_va_strategery_obama_cares_bush_didn_t
Oh we're just blaming Bush for everything these days. He certainly didn't put troops into two countries, directly causing those casualties in the first place. Nope!

quote:

[BOB] BECKEL: You know what the crap of this block is? That somehow you're equating Obamacare with the VA. The VA is owned and operated by the federal government. It is government-operated health care. Obamacare has nothing to do... Not a single hospital will be owned by the government, not a single doctor. It gives you a nice little thing to talk about here in this block. And, by the way, it's nice to see Rush Limbaugh again. We haven't seen him on this air for about, what, three hours?

RUSH: Yeah, see? I just want to play that. It's just so funny when these guys get mad. Of course, that's why this is the most talked about radio talk show in the country, and I'm the most talked about host in the country. I think one of the reasons... Can we be honest here? One of the reasons they use me is where else are you gonna hear this stuff? I mean, there are other places you hear it, but everybody else is uttering the same formulaic stuff.

Everybody is afraid... Not everybody. A lot of people are afraid to actually say what they really think about this. So his point here is, "The VA is owned and operated by the federal government. It is government-operated health care. Obamacare has nothing to do... Not a single hospital will be owned by the government, not a single doctor."

Bob, the doctors that remain in Obamacare are gonna be owned and operated, and they're gonna be totally subservient to whatever the law and the requirements are. The point is the federal government is going to be responsible. They're gonna be the deciding factor in who gets treatment and what kind. The VA scandal really comes down to rationing, and that is inevitable in any single-payer system.

Rationing is inevitable when you have a command-and-control central authority that determines how much is gonna be spent where. In the private sector, where the government has little say about what's spent except Medicare and Medicaid -- just normal, everyday health care transactions between the patient and doctor -- that's a self-contained transaction. Procedure and the price is dictated by a number of things.

But doctors... I mean, you could say they "ration" by having waiting lists in the office on a particular day and it may be slow. But what we know here is that the VA scandal is about rationing, and rationing is going to be part of Obamacare. Any system where you are underpaying the doctors, you're going to have to ration health care. "Rationing" is just a nice term for "death panels."

Some bureaucrat somewhere is gonna decide who gets treated and who won't be, and that same bureaucrat is gonna decide how much money is spent on whoever is judged worthy of being treated. Obamacare mandates services. Obamacare mandates fees. How is that so different from being operated by the government? You mandate services; you mandate fees. Mandate is pretty final -- and if the government's doing the mandating, how can you say they're not operating it?

Remember... We're gonna replay the sound bite of Obama telling a woman, "Your mother? Nah, nah. She's too old to get a pacemaker. No, no. We'll just give her a pill and have her enjoy the last of her days." I mean, what do you think that is? And what do you think he's assuming his power is going to be once Obamacare is implemented? Can you imagine a citizen of this country having to ask the president whether her mother is going to get medical treatment?

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Let's go back to June 24, 2009, primetime, ABC. A member of the audience, Jane Sturm, says to Obama, "My mother is over 105. But at 100 the doctor said to her, 'I can't do anything more unless you have a pacemaker.' I said go for it; she said go for it. The specialist said, 'No, she's too old.' When the other specialist saw her joy of life, her will to live, he said, 'I'm gonna go for it.' That was over five years ago.

"My question to you, Mr. President, outside the medical criteria for prolonging life for somebody who's elderly is there any consideration that can be give up for certain spirit, a joy of living, a quality of life, will to live, or is it just a medical cutoff at a certain age?" This is a woman asking if the federal government will consider somebody's will to live and happiness at age 100 in giving them a pacemaker, and listen to this answer.

OBAMA: I don't think that we can make judgments based on people's spirit. That'd be a pretty subjective decision to be making. I think we have to have rules that say that we are gonna provide good quality care for all people. End-of-life care is one of the most difficult sets of decisions that we're gonna have to make. But understand that those decisions are already being made in one way or another. If they're not being made under Medicare and Medicaid, they're being made by private insurers. At least we can let doctors know and your mom know that, you know what, maybe this isn't gonna help. Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller.

RUSH: Now, you want to tell me this isn't rationing? Do you want to tell me this isn't the federal government determining who gets medical treatment and who doesn't? And how is that different from the VA? Here's a woman... Again, folks, this was back in 2009. This is five years ago, and already citizens were conditioned to think they had to ask the president or the government if a family member is gonna get medical care!

What is that, if not rationing?

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/05/22/beckel_has_another_cow_over_me_the_va_and_obamacare_rationing
This seriously isn't that loving hard: Undergoing surgery past a certain age can be a death sentence. What do you do when they die under the knife? You think a surgeon or hospital wants to take on that liability? The answer to all of these questions is, of course, tort reform

# ? May 22, 2014 23:15

Intel&Sebastian: Oct 20, 2002; colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Rush should really take more combative calls, even if they're screened for just concern trolling republican callers and people who barely know what they're talking about. He's not awful at it or anything and I imagine it'd be a lot more of a goose for his callers hate boners than the lazy improvised hours upon hours of poo poo talking.

# ? May 22, 2014 23:24

Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...est-victim.html

I'm curious why O'Keefe hasn't been jumped by someone at this point, the dude has hosed up so many peoples' lives while fighting for whatever it is he believes in.

Anyway, his latest "film", being true to form, was very heavily edited and one curious Mr. Fox has the tape.

quote:

At the end of O�Keefe�s video, Fox is heard saying, �Obviously there are projects that we are working on ahead of time, that we�re working on now, that do sound like they would be interesting to your clients.� But his stipulations have been cut.

�We have them caught in total deception,� Fox says. �This phone call reveals exactly how they work. They willfully portray it in the wrong light. They edit it so it sounds like you said something that you didn�t. Luckily I had the full tape.�

Not that this is news to anyone around here, but I'm still amazed that any news organization outside of Drudge and Breitbart is even discussing O'Keefe at this point. Although I guess this one didn't get the coverage his previous ones did, but it's still generating chatter.

# ? May 22, 2014 23:35

woke wedding drone: Jun 1, 2003; by exmarx; Fun Shoe

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Rush should really take more combative calls, even if they're screened for just concern trolling republican callers and people who barely know what they're talking about. He's not awful at it or anything and I imagine it'd be a lot more of a goose for his callers hate boners than the lazy improvised hours upon hours of poo poo talking.

Don't mess with success.

# ? May 23, 2014 00:22

Intel&Sebastian: Oct 20, 2002; colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

He's not exactly succeeding at the moment

# ? May 23, 2014 00:28

psychic chasms: Oct 23, 2012; SCREWED UP CLICK TILL THEY LAY ME IN MY CASKET

National Review really going for the gold this week.

Wiki posted:

During discussions of the 1968 Democratic National Convention protests, the men were arguing about freedom of speech with regard to American protesters displaying a Viet Cong flag when Vidal told Buckley to "shut up a minute", after Buckley had interrupted him, and, in response to Buckley's reference to "pro-Nazi" protesters, went on to say: "As far as I'm concerned, the only sort of pro-crypto-Nazi I can think of is yourself." The visibly livid Buckley replied, "Now listen, you queer. Stop calling me a crypto-Nazi, or I'll sock you in the goddamn face and you'll stay plastered."

Hate-following them on Facebook is an amazing rabbit hole.

# ? May 23, 2014 01:32

Phone: Jul 30, 2005; 親子丼をほしい。

Gore Vidal owns forever.

# ? May 23, 2014 01:43

Post 9-11 User: Apr 14, 2010

That some people think Buckley did anything other than embarrass himself in that discussion serves only to remind me that during the 2004 Presidential debates I was told, and I quote: "I just watched Bush trounce Kerry in tonight's debate."

"Trounce" is a red flag term, the verbal equivalent of a bowtie.

Post 9-11 User fucked around with this message at 01:50 on May 23, 2014

# ? May 23, 2014 01:46

woke wedding drone: Jun 1, 2003; by exmarx; Fun Shoe

That's all Buckley ever did, use terribly inappropriate but highfalutin' and obscure words, then threaten to punch you when it didn't work. Because obviously everybody was terrified of the justice fists of manly William F. Buckley.

Of course this sort of bluster kind of set the tone for the next fifty years.

# ? May 23, 2014 02:19

agarjogger: May 16, 2011

Please somebody post a poll that says most Americans are disgusted with the Republicans, and that at least 25% consider them the greatest single threat to this country, beating out terrorism, the Yellowstone caldera, and direct asteroid strike.

# ? May 23, 2014 02:30

Intel&Sebastian: Oct 20, 2002; colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Retweet if Pitt the Elder eats dingleberries #Earlofgaywadia

:laugh:

# ? May 23, 2014 02:34

RFC2324: Jun 7, 2012; http 418

agarjogger posted:

Please somebody post a poll that says most Americans are disgusted with the Republicans, and that at least 25% consider them the greatest single threat to this country, beating out terrorism, the Yellowstone caldera, and direct asteroid strike.

Please, this. I work with a tea party dickbag who is convinced that there is no way in the world tea party is gonna lose the upcoming election, I would like some ammo.

# ? May 23, 2014 02:58

Badera: Jan 30, 2012; Student Brian Boyko has lost faith in America.

RFC2324 posted:

Please, this. I work with a tea party dickbag who is convinced that there is no way in the world tea party is gonna lose the upcoming election, I would like some ammo.

...they already did? They got their asses whipped in virtually every single primary.

# ? May 23, 2014 03:15

agarjogger: May 16, 2011

Yeah, but like polls. To indicate that the members of this forum are not completely alone in the way we think about Republicans. We think quite harshly of them.

# ? May 23, 2014 03:18

RFC2324: Jun 7, 2012; http 418

Badera posted:

...they already did? They got their asses whipped in virtually every single primary.

Do you think a little thing like losing the primaries is gonna slow down a tea partier?

# ? May 23, 2014 03:20

beatlegs: Mar 11, 2001

Badera posted:

...they already did? They got their asses whipped in virtually every single primary.

Yeah but the winners of those primaries continue to act like radical fringers. As long as that's the case the Tea Party is effectively winning.

# ? May 23, 2014 04:21

Spacedad: Sep 11, 2001; We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

psychic chasms posted:

National Review really going for the gold this week.

Hate-following them on Facebook is an amazing rabbit hole.

Some Gore Vidal love/ownage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY_nq4tfi24

Edit: Also for fresh thread content, here's a Republican who confused a 1987 satire article mocking homophobic prejudice for a 'real' thing - a 'plot to sodomize your kids!'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiI_XfsNYdI

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jody-hice-gay-community-secret-plot-sodomize-children

quote:

There's more though. Hice, in his book, also calls local law enforcement in Elmira, New York "the Gestapo" after they arrested anti-gay demonstrators.

Here's the rub. In arguing against homosexuality in his book Hice cited a column by Michael Swift, who is gay, in 1987. Here's the column, as noted by Mother Jones:

quote:
We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of your shallow dreams and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your schools, in your dormitories, in your gymnasiums, in your locker rooms, in your sports arenas, in your seminaries, in your youth groups, in your movie theater bathrooms, in your army bunkhouses, in your truck stops, in your all male clubs, in your houses of Congress, wherever men are with men together. Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our image. They will come to crave and adore us.

The problem though is that Hice didn't note that the piece was a satirical essay.

It's kind of hilarious to watch homophobes so scared of gays that they jump at shadows - well, to a point, when you consider their infantile prejudice does a lot of actual harm.

The satirical essay confused for a 'real' thing can be found here by the way: http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/pwh/swift1.asp

Makes you wonder how much of the fear of the "GAY AGENDA" over the years has been fueled by homophobes quoting sarcastic gay people out of context.

Spacedad fucked around with this message at 08:43 on May 23, 2014

# ? May 23, 2014 07:23

FuzzySkinner: May 23, 2012

Spacedad posted:

Makes you wonder how much of the fear of the "GAY AGENDA" over the years has been fueled by homophobes quoting sarcastic gay people out of context.

They always use this one book written in 1990 about gaining acceptance from mainstream society as a claim that the "GAY AGENDA" is an actual thing.

http://www.amazon.com/After-Ball-America-Conquer-Hatred/dp/0452264987

Pretty much what it says is "Uh, hey, we should try to tell people we're normal people, and show that in the media/real life".

But the believers in this crap freak out and cite the fact it uses "COMMUNIST BRAINWASHING TECHNICS!".

FuzzySkinner fucked around with this message at 12:29 on May 23, 2014

# ? May 23, 2014 12:26

Pander: Oct 9, 2007; Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.

I wonder if one could get a Tea Partier to make "no baby eating" as a major anti-Liberal stance if one could convince them A Modest Proposal was written by a Democrat.

# ? May 23, 2014 14:01

moths: Aug 25, 2004; I would also still appreciate some danger.

I wouldn't even risk it, grandma killing panels are still a talking point that people believe I'm.

# ? May 23, 2014 14:14

Dirk Pitt: Sep 14, 2007; haha yes, this feels good; Toilet Rascal

I heard Glenn Beck talking about building a history museum this summer for parents to take their kids to before sending them to indoctrination camps in the fall (public schools). I kind of want to see this, but I don't want to give Glenn money.

He was pleading with parents to not send their kids to public schools as well. But if they do, make sure to take them to his museum first so they know the truth. :eng101:

Dirk Pitt fucked around with this message at 17:09 on May 23, 2014

# ? May 23, 2014 17:01

Intel&Sebastian: Oct 20, 2002; colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

I imagine if you're of the mind to seek out and pay for what Glenn Beck is slinging these days, you probably have already taken any school age children out of public school. It's like Alex Jones pleading for his listeners to use stealth web browsers and not shower.

# ? May 23, 2014 17:05

ToxicSlurpee: Nov 5, 2003; -=SEND HELP=-; Pillbug

Dirk Pitt posted:

I heard Glenn Beck talking about building a history museum this summer for parents to take their kids to before sending them to indoctrination camps in the fall (public schools). I kind of want to see this, but I don't want to give Glenn money.

He was pleading with parents to not send their kids to public schools as well. But if they do, make sure to take them to his museum first so they know the truth.

He also wanted to raise a poo poo load of money to found a completely free, totally deregulated libertarian paradise city to show the rest of the world how stupid their "rules" and "social contracts" were.

I think at this point he's struggling to be relevant and this year's literally insane plan will totally work if you give him enough money, I swear! p.s. buy gold

# ? May 23, 2014 17:09

Slo-Tek: Jun 8, 2001; WINDOWS 98 BEAT HIS FRIEND WITH A SHOVEL

Are there any updates on Beckistan? Been a couple years now, they should have broken ground on their munitions factory/zombie hardened defense post by now, right?

# ? May 23, 2014 17:13

Dirk Pitt: Sep 14, 2007; haha yes, this feels good; Toilet Rascal

Slo-Tek posted:

Are there any updates on Beckistan? Been a couple years now, they should have broken ground on their munitions factory/zombie hardened defense post by now, right?

Is zombie a code word, similar to Amish in freep speak?

# ? May 23, 2014 17:20

moths: Aug 25, 2004; I would also still appreciate some danger.

What does "Amish" refer to?

Edit: Well that's bizarre. I assume it's to obfuscate racism?

moths fucked around with this message at 17:53 on May 23, 2014

# ? May 23, 2014 17:41

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# ? Jun 4, 2024 16:12

thefncrow: Mar 14, 2001

moths posted:

What does "Amish" refer to?

Amish is code for black people.

# ? May 23, 2014 17:45

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