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Baronjutter posted:"too difficult to fail" There's a youtube channel linked earlier where a dude is doing a playthrough on the hardest difficulty. It does not seem impossible by any stretch of the imagination, but money is harder to come by, his people are more restless, and foreign factions are much more difficult to keep happy (there's a point where he almost gets invaded by the Axis, and has to immediately put down embassies and praise them before the situation gets too out of hand). I feel like there's a lot of ways to toe the line and flirt with failure for big rewards. It also looks like it's easier to be a complete totalitarian rear end in a top hat and win by oppressing your people into the ground. I don't know, to me it looks like the game will be pretty damned amazing.
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# ? May 23, 2014 06:50 |
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As I play 4 while waiting for 5 to come out tomorrow, something came out of nowhere and struck me as a fix/feature I desperately want: less annoying tornadoes. Every other disaster is okay, poo poo happens and is broken and I can go back to fixing it. Tornadoes spend about a month on my map tearing poo poo up and I can't fix it despite life going on otherwise because they hang around like assholes. My desire for this might have something to do with the fact that 3 tornadoes just snuck behind my defenses.
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# ? May 23, 2014 06:57 |
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Alkydere posted:As I play 4 while waiting for 5 to come out tomorrow, something came out of nowhere and struck me as a fix/feature I desperately want: less annoying tornadoes. Every other disaster is okay, poo poo happens and is broken and I can go back to fixing it. Tornadoes spend about a month on my map tearing poo poo up and I can't fix it despite life going on otherwise because they hang around like assholes. http://forum.kalypsomedia.com/showthread.php?tid=21861 I'm not sure it works, but maybe this mod can help you.
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# ? May 23, 2014 07:02 |
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Sedisp posted:Yeah that struck me as kind of silly. Entirely optional quests don't really take away player agency. I don't know about that. I own Tropico 2, and that's painful to play, to me at least.
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# ? May 23, 2014 08:31 |
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Phanos posted:So Ars Technica put out a review for Tropico 5 a few hours ago: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/05/tropico-5-review-empire-building-with-a-bit-too-much-guidance/ I'm still going to play the shot out of it as soon as I can. Bloodly posted:I don't know about that. I own Tropico 2, and that's painful to play, to me at least. Tropico 2 was pretty easy. Wait was that the pirates? The pirates one was really hard.
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# ? May 23, 2014 08:34 |
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The one thing the reviews haven't touched on at all is the multiplayer aspect, probably because the servers weren't up. I do wonder how that will work, but I'm sure you goons will be able to tell us all about it. They're selling the eras thing, but I'm just more curious about how the multiplayer works. Do you work with each other, or do you try to screw each other over, and how do you "win" a match, by taking out the other El Presidentes? Press builds don't get the multiplayer I guess. Or people just wanted to see how the game played compared to Tropico 4 without getting other people in the way or something.
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# ? May 23, 2014 08:58 |
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IAmTheRad posted:The one thing the reviews haven't touched on at all is the multiplayer aspect, probably because the servers weren't up. I do wonder how that will work, but I'm sure you goons will be able to tell us all about it. They're selling the eras thing, but I'm just more curious about how the multiplayer works. Do you work with each other, or do you try to screw each other over, and how do you "win" a match, by taking out the other El Presidentes? From the brief preview stuff I saw, it looks like sandbox missions have victory conditions like "points," money, or one or two other things. Presumably points are achieved via doing things during the game, like exporting goods first, achieving happiness, etc. I doubt it's just killing the other presidentes, or it'd be a really boring RTS.
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# ? May 23, 2014 11:05 |
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It sounds like much like sandbox it's sort of a "make your own goal" system. It encourages both cooperation (for resources) and competition (for land) so my best guess is you do what you want.
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Dirk the Average posted:From the brief preview stuff I saw, it looks like sandbox missions have victory conditions like "points," money, or one or two other things. Presumably points are achieved via doing things during the game, like exporting goods first, achieving happiness, etc. I doubt it's just killing the other presidentes, or it'd be a really boring RTS. TotalBiscuit's video showed that you can set up different goals for sandbox games. There are research victories in addition to the points and money (which iirc is swiss bank account money.)
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# ? May 23, 2014 11:28 |
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Mokinokaro posted:TotalBiscuit's video showed that you can set up different goals for sandbox games. There are research victories in addition to the points and money (which iirc is swiss bank account money.) I assume all of this applies to multiplayer games as well, which is why I brought it up - it'd give a bit more dimension to games.
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# ? May 23, 2014 11:32 |
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Hm, has anyone received keys from GMG yet? I'm so used to them giving out the keys days ahead of time, but I guess that's just if the games can be preloaded.
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# ? May 23, 2014 12:13 |
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SubNat posted:Hm, has anyone received keys from GMG yet? I'm so used to them giving out the keys days ahead of time, but I guess that's just if the games can be preloaded. Yeah if it can't be preloaded they usually hand it out once its ready to be downloaded. There's been a few snags where the publisher simply forgets to let them release it and it might take a few more hours but they should be good today.
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# ? May 23, 2014 13:23 |
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Just got my key from GMG, doesn't look like there's any preloading though.
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# ? May 23, 2014 15:02 |
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SubNat posted:Hm, has anyone received keys from GMG yet? I'm so used to them giving out the keys days ahead of time, but I guess that's just if the games can be preloaded.
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# ? May 23, 2014 15:03 |
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TheDK posted:Just got mine from GMG, but the game is still locked after activating on Steam. Well, according to Steam it'll unlock in around 3 hours, just wait around then, or restart Steam around that time and bamf, we'll be allowed to install. e: Still, anyone know roughly how large it is?
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# ? May 23, 2014 15:18 |
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SubNat posted:e: Still, anyone know roughly how large it is? System specs required says 4gb on both minimum and recommended which seems about right. Edit: VVVV like a rebel.
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# ? May 23, 2014 15:35 |
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Edit: ^^^^^ Beaten.
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# ? May 23, 2014 15:36 |
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Looks like it's unlocked on Steam!
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# ? May 23, 2014 16:27 |
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escalator dropdown posted:Looks like it's unlocked on Steam! After a quick restart of Steam, it is indeed unlocked! Installing now.
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# ? May 23, 2014 16:31 |
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It only downloaded 114mb of DirectX and vcredist files
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# ? May 23, 2014 16:39 |
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Mayor Defacto posted:It only downloaded 114mb of DirectX and vcredist files Tropican software is veeeeryyy efficient at compressing files, gringo!
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# ? May 23, 2014 16:44 |
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Tropico 5 is showing up as an ~2GB download for me.
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# ? May 23, 2014 16:47 |
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Almost loaded here. Llamastan shall live again!
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# ? May 23, 2014 16:49 |
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Mayor Defacto posted:It only downloaded 114mb of DirectX and vcredist files Restart Steam maybe? Just finished a 1.9GB download and install, and have the starting menu loaded, so it's definitely up.
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# ? May 23, 2014 16:52 |
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This has really bizarre amounts of gamepad support. I can't actually select anything while using the gamepad (that I can find) but I can do practically everything else.
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# ? May 23, 2014 17:01 |
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Mayor Defacto posted:It only downloaded 114mb of DirectX and vcredist files Blargh, I have the same problem, steam client is 100% up to date, restart doesn't help. Ugh, according to the forums, it appears to be a gift copy problem, as in if you weren't the one who actually bought it as part of a multi-pack purchase you get the stupid 114mb install. Maneki Neko fucked around with this message at 17:11 on May 23, 2014 |
# ? May 23, 2014 17:08 |
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So why was TotalBiscuit on an NDA about talking about the later eras of the game? Are there UFO buildings you can unlock?
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# ? May 23, 2014 17:09 |
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Maneki Neko posted:...if you bought as part of a 4 pack or something. Yup.
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# ? May 23, 2014 17:10 |
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So far things I've noticed:
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# ? May 23, 2014 17:11 |
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*edit* Done, thanks! tehsid fucked around with this message at 18:22 on May 23, 2014 |
# ? May 23, 2014 17:13 |
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Speedball posted:So why was TotalBiscuit on an NDA about talking about the later eras of the game? Are there UFO buildings you can unlock? We don't know. Joystiq wasn't allowed to show anything past the world war era too.
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# ? May 23, 2014 17:13 |
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Oh Tropico, how I have missed you.
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# ? May 23, 2014 17:14 |
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So I'm a huge idiot thinking of going home early from work to play tropico but I got a 4 pack. Am I screwed until they fix it or is there a work-around? I remotely installed and it says there's a ~100 meg file waiting for me at home.
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# ? May 23, 2014 17:15 |
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Alkydere posted:So far things I've noticed: Good! Locking the Rum Distillery and higher education behind eras was a brilliant move for difficulty. Same with locking traits behind dynasties. 4 never gave me problems with this, ever. It alt-tabbed just as easily as 5. I prefer the new VA.
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# ? May 23, 2014 17:18 |
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Orv posted:Oh Tropico, how I have missed you. The writing is still excellent, definitely on par with 4. New Penultimo is way too dignified for my tastes though. Love his stache and hat though. Also, I just noticed that you can actually see what goods are piling up in your docks, so you know if that giant pile of loot you're about to offload is llama wool or oil or furniture made from exotic and endangered trees.
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# ? May 23, 2014 17:19 |
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Baronjutter posted:So I'm a huge idiot thinking of going home early from work to play tropico but I got a 4 pack. Am I screwed until they fix it or is there a work-around? I remotely installed and it says there's a ~100 meg file waiting for me at home. Currently screwed, we'll see if there's a workaround.
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# ? May 23, 2014 17:21 |
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Man I don't entirely remember the soundtrack from 4 but there is just an abundance of noodling in this one.
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# ? May 23, 2014 17:22 |
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goddamn you all, this is going to be the longest day of work ever. Keep posting your early impressions though!
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# ? May 23, 2014 17:25 |
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Orv posted:Man I don't entirely remember the soundtrack from 4 but there is just an abundance of noodling in this one. It feels like there was more variety with Tropico 4, yeah. evvv: I hope so.
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# ? May 23, 2014 17:29 |
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nutranurse posted:It feels like there was more variety with Tropico 4, yeah. Just a thought but maybe it changes based on era?
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