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pd187 posted:Guys, guys, guys... When I swear Alex Jones can't get more obvious of him being a money whore, he some how outdoes himself.
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May 14, 2014 15:59
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McDowell posted:Purify your essence with Alex Jones! That sounds dirty
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I can't understand how people can actually think the Sandy Hook shooting was a hoax for all the reasons Centripedal Horse mentioned and more. Normally, I don't get worked up over conspiracy theories, but that one pushes my buttons. It's absolutely ghoulish to attack and harass the parents of murdered children. It's hard for me to not lose my poo poo when some dumbass tries to convince me that it was a false flag operation orchestrated by the Illuminati to steal our guns. And wow, Alex Jones's snake oil has some hilarious reviews. quote:He was turned on to Alex Jones because he wanted to know more about the creator of such an amazing product. He now gets angry a lot and yells at the "New World Order" (whatever that is) as he watches TV. You should see him sitting in his recliner with a turkey leg responding to Alex's rants with gorilla like incoherent grunts. They truly have their own language (Incidentally Alex should probably go down to a quarter dose). But when when the hubby puts on his work clothes... my...my...my. It seems like when I am in the kitchen he passes the window every 10 minutes with something over his shoulder: fence posts, bags of mulch or rocks (in the evenings it's me- wink wink). 
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May 14, 2014 16:29
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Lightning Jim posted:When I swear Alex Jones can't get more obvious of him being a money whore, he some how outdoes himself. But wait... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4629k9WazE ...there's more!
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Alpacalips Now posted:I can't understand how people can actually think the Sandy Hook shooting was a hoax for all the reasons Centripedal Horse mentioned and more. Normally, I don't get worked up over conspiracy theories, but that one pushes my buttons. It's absolutely ghoulish to attack and harass the parents of murdered children. As I have been saying, it is a form of political denial. Running around screaming '9/11 is an inside job' is a lizard brain way of convincing people not to cooperate with the Neoconservative agenda. Similarly people who love their guns will accept that 'Sandy Hook is an inside job' because it is a way of rejecting any attempt to implement gun control.
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May 14, 2014 17:07
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Alpacalips Now posted:I can't understand how people can actually think the Sandy Hook shooting was a hoax for all the reasons Centripedal Horse mentioned and more. It's really easy to figure out. They just think everyone fell for it and all the officials are in on it. Whether they hauled the kids off and executed them or simply relocated them all over the world, somehow everyone was either involved or duped. The conspiracy nuts just think they're smart enough to see it
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May 14, 2014 17:56
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Sandy Hook conspiracy theorists are almost as low as you can go (holocaust deniers are the only thing lower). At least 9/11 truthers usually don't harass the families of that event's victims. I was wondering why this mass shooting has conspiracies attached to it, while others don't. I think it's because the details of this shooting are so horrible that its conspiracy theorists have to deny it, since they know that admitting to themselves it happened as it really did would force them to change their beliefs, especially if they're already gun nuts.
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If you know people who were at one of the false flag mass shootings does that make you part of the conspiracy?
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^Everyone and everything are part of the conspiracy, no matter your level of knowledge.ponzicar posted:Sandy Hook conspiracy theorists are almost as low as you can go (holocaust deniers are the only thing lower). At least 9/11 truthers usually don't harass the families of that event's victims. No, they just showed up to "protest" at ground zero and interrupted events
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McDowell posted:Purify your essence with Alex Jones! I do not avoid women, Mandrake... but I do deny them my essence
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ponzicar posted:I was wondering why this mass shooting has conspiracies attached to it, while others don't. It's because the popularity of conspiracy theorism is increasing at this time. Fewer people had access to the internet's echo chambers when Columbine happened.
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I'm vaguely tempted to start a Boston Marathon Bombing denial thing just to see if anyone'd buy it.
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I see what you guys mean. I guess I'm too well-adjusted to understand conspiracy moon bats. chairface, there are actually people who think that Boston Marathon was staged with the help of "crisis actors". Last year, I worked with a couple who were convinced that the Boston Marathon bombing was a false flag operation designed to incite hatred against foreigners. When I asked them who they thought was behind it, they said they didn't know. And when I asked them why someone would go through that much trouble to promote xenophobia when they could just run propaganda, they also didn't have an answer. It's like they have actual backwards thinking, because for all of the mental gymnastics they go through to create supposed patterns and connections, they skimp on basic "Who" and "Why" questions.
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chairface posted:I'm vaguely tempted to start a Boston Marathon Bombing denial thing just to see if anyone'd buy it. I have some really bad news for you.
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chairface posted:I'm vaguely tempted to start a Boston Marathon Bombing denial thing just to see if anyone'd buy it. There's an extremely vocal group of fangirls on tumblr who believe that the brothers were set up and that the whole thing was a hoax. It's like everything awful about fandom plus everything awful about conspiracy theorists all rolled into one awful mess. There was even fanfiction less than a week after the bombers were caught. Erotic fanfiction (no not slash thank god although I'm sure that exists now)
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chairface posted:I'm vaguely tempted to start a Boston Marathon Bombing denial thing just to see if anyone'd buy it. You could try starting a Boston Marathon denial group instead.
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ponzicar posted:Sandy Hook conspiracy theorists are almost as low as you can go (holocaust deniers are the only thing lower). At least 9/11 truthers usually don't harass the families of that event's victims. See also the issue brought up before in this thread: It provokes enormous anxiety, especially in already ill people, that the world is a place where horrible things can happen without a reasonable explanation. Therefore, creating a just, or at least explainable world, wherein great conspiracies explain away the randomness and tragedies in life, alleviates the fear.
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Animal-Mother posted:It's because the popularity of conspiracy theorism is increasing at this time. Fewer people had access to the internet's echo chambers when Columbine happened. There are dozens of Columbine conspiracy theories and have been since the day it happened.
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moller posted:There are dozens of Columbine conspiracy theories and have been since the day it happened. I suspect there have been a dozen conspiracy theories for almost every mystery since Ug found Gronk dead outside his cave with a bloody rock lying ten feet away. The internet means we get to hear every single one of them.
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Centripetal Horse posted:I suspect there have been a dozen conspiracy theories for almost every mystery since Ug found Gronk dead outside his cave with a bloody rock lying ten feet away. The internet means we get to hear every single one of them. For example, after Nero was assassinated there were a lot of people (especially in the eastern empire) who thought he escaped and was going to take over again with the assistance of the Persians, the Roman's hated enemy. This was a huge theory that actually had a large impact on early Christianity-- the book of Revelations was pretty much written in code that meant 'look out, Nero is coming back and he's going to slaughter us all'. Revelations was hardly the only work of that type in that era either, just the only one that managed to make it into the cannon of a modern religion. A lot of historians explain that as 'well it's not like they had an effective way to spread news back then' but given that people still do that stuff today I suspect it's all due to the lizard-brain looking for patterns.
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Centripetal Horse posted:I suspect there have been a dozen conspiracy theories for almost every mystery since Ug found Gronk dead outside his cave with a bloody rock lying ten feet away. The internet means we get to hear every single one of them. Well yeah but in the case of Columbine disinfo.com pretty much rose to fame because of Columbine conspiracies, and Salon had a writer who covered them pretty extensively. I remember reading about them on webpages at the time. Mid-1999 is not an era buried in the mists of history or anything. moller fucked around with this message at 11:26 on May 15, 2014 |
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Doctor Spaceman posted:You could try starting a Boston Marathon denial group instead. All Boston Marathons before 2013 were just fiction made up to lure people to the bombing site.
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platedlizard posted:Revelations was hardly the only work of that type in that era either, just the only one that managed to make it into the cannon of a modern religion.
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Strudel Man posted:Sorry, I don't mean this to be snotty, it's just something that bugs me. You mean "canon." Cannon is the artillery-piece, canon is the set of official books and doctrines. He's obviously talking about that time the Muslims used bibles as ammunition against the Crusaders 
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AATREK CURES KIDS posted:He's obviously talking about that time the Muslims used bibles as ammunition against the Crusaders If we're tearing things up faster than a Kleenex at a snot party, the last book of the New Testament is "Revelation" - singular, not plural.
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AATREK CURES KIDS posted:He's obviously talking about that time the Muslims used bibles as ammunition against the Crusaders She  Strudel Man posted:Sorry, I don't mean this to be snotty, it's just something that bugs me. You mean "canon." Cannon is the artillery-piece, canon is the set of official books and doctrines. Mister Mind posted:If we're tearing things up faster than a Kleenex at a snot party, the last book of the New Testament is "Revelation" - singular, not plural. Fair enough 
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Pfft, you're clearly a man playing a role. Falsepost attack.
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AATREK CURES KIDS posted:He's obviously talking about that time the Muslims used bibles as ammunition against the Crusaders That only happened in the fan history of the Crusades and it's widely considered to be a non-canon cannon.
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Mmann posted:That only happened in the fan history of the Crusades and it's widely considered to be a non-canon cannon. Or as it's otherwise known as: Crusader Kings 2.
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Mmann posted:That only happened in the fan history of the Crusades and it's widely considered to be a non-canon cannon. There were two instances, actually, but the second one was deuterocannonical.
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Ray and Shirley posted:But wait... Totally buying this coffee for some of my friends, saw it when I was in Austin last time but didn't have any cash on me. I wonder if it tastes better without fluoridated water?
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I know this happened a little while ago, but I'm curious where this ranks on the spectrum. The circumstances surrounding the death of Michael Hastings would make anybody question what actually happened right? Or was it simply a crazy paranoid man driving incredibly recklessly, running a red light at high speed? http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3492339
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platedlizard posted:There's an extremely vocal group of fangirls on tumblr who believe that the brothers were set up and that the whole thing was a hoax. It's like everything awful about fandom plus everything awful about conspiracy theorists all rolled into one awful mess. There was even fanfiction less than a week after the bombers were caught. Erotic fanfiction (no not slash thank god although I'm sure that exists now) Joan and Valerie, screaming from the gallery, say he must go free... That's loving insane.
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SlurmsMckenzie posted:I know this happened a little while ago, but I'm curious where this ranks on the spectrum. The circumstances surrounding the death of Michael Hastings would make anybody question what actually happened right? Or was it simply a crazy paranoid man driving incredibly recklessly, running a red light at high speed? Don't overcomplicate things. Sure, the CIA could have killed him, but is there any evidence at all? Like, actual evidence. Not feel good evidence.
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So here's a fun little thing I came across last night http://www.leftforum.org/content/zizek-delenda-est According to this guy famed Left Wing philosopher Slavoj Zizek is a CIA plant to discredit Socialism
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I've never read any Zizek but if his posts are anything like SMG's I can see why he would make people hate things associated with him. I understand the whole conspiracy theorist need to explain things away and assume they are all part of a plan; how somehow even a terrifying and monstrous plan is preferable to the knowledge that at any moment you can fall victim to terrorists, but what I don't understand is, well, is that really what's going on with a lot of these? Like, how is 'you can, at any moment, be slain by false-flag operations by the US Government' any different in a practical sense from 'you can, at any moment, be slain by Islamic terrorists.'? The conspiracy is something still in-progress and still ineffable so how is it alleviating fear? Whether the conspiracy is being plotted by terrorists half a world away or by shadowy cabals within the government, what's it matter? In both cases it's a conspiracy that is for all intents and purposes so beyond your ability to influence or prevent that it's no different than random chance? I mean, like, JFK, Sandy Hook and so on things are attaching conspiracies where there was none, and it was the actions of a lone man. But 9/11 and to a lesser extent the Boston Bombing WERE conspiracies! Just, you know, not by the US Government. How is it more comforting to assume your own government is out to get you, especially when your ability to defend yourself is the same in both cases.
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But you can! By not drinking fluoridated water, avoiding deadly HAARP rays with tinfoil, not getting vaccinated, and chugging some Alex Jones dick medicine.
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That's for the crazier conspiracy theories, yeah, but not the ones like Sandy Hook or 9/11 or other ones. Like, I just don't understand how replacing one vast, nebulous, and essentially ineffable force beyond your control with another is in any way helpful. What difference does it make whether the conspiracy meets in the White House or in some cave in Afghanistan?
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:That's for the crazier conspiracy theories, yeah, but not the ones like Sandy Hook or 9/11 or other ones. Like, I just don't understand how replacing one vast, nebulous, and essentially ineffable force beyond your control with another is in any way helpful. Umberto Eco's ur-facism. The enemy is simultaneously all-powerful and incredibly fragile. It's easier to get that sense of control when the Evil Force seems "closer" to you, and the Pentagon is closer to most Americans than Saddam's bunker or Bin Ladin's safehouse.
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