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I personally believe it should be, and I hope you guys can say good things that back up my opinion.
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# ? May 24, 2014 05:36 |
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Oh thanks for taking it so seriously. I don't really think there's a good reason for it to be 21 other than some inherent idea that people will be more responsible by 21, or something of the sort. Anyone got any studies to back that up? satanic splash-back fucked around with this message at 05:44 on May 24, 2014 |
# ? May 24, 2014 05:37 |
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Yes, drunk 18 year olds are one of america's greatest economic forces.
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# ? May 24, 2014 05:38 |
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It's already 18 in most civilized countries, which do not include the United Snakes of Amerikkka.
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# ? May 24, 2014 05:39 |
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:It's already 18 in most civilized countries, which do not include the United Snakes of Amerikkka. Like certain parts in Canada.
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# ? May 24, 2014 05:40 |
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:It's already 18 in most civilized countries, which do not include the United Snakes of Amerikkka. Brazil is not a civilized country fyi.
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# ? May 24, 2014 05:41 |
WindmillSlayer posted:I personally believe it should be, and I hope you guys can say good things that back up my opinion. I believe it shouldn't because I think more people will die from being stupid.
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# ? May 24, 2014 05:41 |
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:It's already 18 in most civilized countries, which do not include the United Snakes of Amerikkka. eureka, i've got it! america is bad!
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# ? May 24, 2014 05:41 |
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Kheldragar posted:I believe it shouldn't because I think more people will die from being stupid.
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# ? May 24, 2014 05:44 |
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If a baby wants to buy whiskey, I say let it. Just not on Sundays.
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# ? May 24, 2014 05:45 |
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Yes!
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# ? May 24, 2014 05:46 |
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In My opinion yes it should.
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# ? May 24, 2014 05:46 |
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Conversely, No.
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# ? May 24, 2014 05:47 |
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Alcohol is a nice addition to many social situations and can be enjoyed by people of all ages, even monkeys.
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# ? May 24, 2014 05:52 |
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What's the point of drinking if you can't legally gamble while you get trashed?
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# ? May 24, 2014 06:00 |
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I don't think that the drinking age should be lowered to 18. I base this opinion primarily off of alcohol related traffic deaths. A guy I went to school with drank at a friend's house with parental supervision and ended up driving his car into a tree later that night. He died. He was 18. I wasn't friends with him so I wasn't too broken up about it, but it's evident that he died because he got drunk as gently caress and did something astonishingly stupid because of it.madd posted:Many activities have ages of initiation. A person must wait until age 16 to start driving, age 18 to marry without parental consent, age 35 to become president, and so on.
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# ? May 24, 2014 06:04 |
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Lower drinking age to 16, raise driving age to 21. Problem solved.
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# ? May 24, 2014 06:08 |
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Extensive Vamping posted:Lower drinking age to 16, raise driving age to 21. Problem solved. I voted five because of this well reasoned response.
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# ? May 24, 2014 06:11 |
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Are there college freshmen who never drink? If you go off the idea that laws that are made to be ignored are worse than no law at all then yeah, I'm for changing it to 18. edit: or the age of finishing high school/starting college changed to 21. Actually, that would solve some other problems too. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 07:20 on May 24, 2014 |
# ? May 24, 2014 07:02 |
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Mandatory drunk driving for everyone between 18-21.
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# ? May 24, 2014 07:10 |
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I think it should remain twenty one because your brain isn't done developing until around that age. Alcohol has a terrible effect on the developing brain. I support the same age restriction for marijuana but not as much as for alcohol.
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# ? May 24, 2014 07:18 |
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Ordrakon posted:I don't think that the drinking age should be lowered to 18. I base this opinion primarily off of alcohol related traffic deaths. A guy I went to school with drank at a friend's house with parental supervision and ended up driving his car into a tree later that night. He died. He was 18. I wasn't friends with him so I wasn't too broken up about it, but it's evident that he died because he got drunk as gently caress and did something astonishingly stupid because of it. Rather then use an anecdote just use raw numbers. http://report.nih.gov/NIHfactsheets/ViewFactSheet.aspx?csid=24 quote:Since the early 1980s, alcohol-related traffic deaths per population have been cut in half with the greatest proportional declines among persons 16-20 years old.
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# ? May 24, 2014 07:28 |
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It probably should be illegal discrimination but the car culture we have in the U.S. demands a 21 drinking age at least to be honest. It just really sucks if you go to college in an urban area and no one has a car anyway.
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# ? May 24, 2014 07:42 |
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Ogmius815 posted:It probably should be illegal discrimination but the car culture we have in the U.S. demands a 21 drinking age at least to be honest. It just really sucks if you go to college in an urban area and no one has a car anyway. It really sucks when you're in an urban area with completely poo poo public transport. Pretty much all of Europe doesn't have that problem and tons of actual college areas have decent public transport. The rest of America, no one gives a gently caress go buy a car hippie.
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# ? May 24, 2014 07:53 |
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pentyne posted:It really sucks when you're in an urban area with completely poo poo public transport. Pretty much all of Europe doesn't have that problem and tons of actual college areas have decent public transport. The rest of America, no one gives a gently caress go buy a car hippie. No I mean the drinking age sucks when you go to college in an urban area with great public transport so no one has a car because no one needs one but there isn't any reason for you personally to be disallowed from drinking because there is almost no chance you will end up in a car.
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# ? May 24, 2014 08:13 |
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pentyne posted:Rather then use an anecdote just use raw numbers. I figured madd would be credible enough but thanks for the stats, friend.
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# ? May 24, 2014 09:33 |
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I don't even drink sheeple
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# ? May 24, 2014 09:57 |
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No because if I had to wait till I was 21 to drink, so should they.
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# ? May 24, 2014 15:34 |
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Samurai Sanders posted:Are there college freshmen who never drink? If you go off the idea that laws that are made to be ignored are worse than no law at all then yeah, I'm for changing it to 18.
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# ? May 24, 2014 15:41 |
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Cosmic Charlie posted:Alcohol is a nice addition to many social situations and can be enjoyed by people of all ages, even monkeys. I hope you are not or never become a parent.
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# ? May 24, 2014 18:54 |
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I had really strong opinions about this until my 21st birthday and now I don't give a poo poo.
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# ? May 24, 2014 18:56 |
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Bunleigh posted:I never drank before I turned 21 but then I was a weirdo. edit: I actually lived in an alcohol free dorm when I started college, but a while later I found out that it was actually the drinking problem dorm, since people were signing up there either in denial that they had a drinking problem, or to throw off the authorities/parents about their drinking. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 19:00 on May 24, 2014 |
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At least here you can go to most bars without being 21, you just can't drink (and they mark you so people know). Bunleigh posted:I never drank before I turned 21 but then I was a weirdo. Conversely, i haven't really drank much since turning 21 (though a large part of that is getting totally hosed up at a party).
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# ? May 24, 2014 18:59 |
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edit: Er, this is DD not GBS. I have nothing really productive to say on this matter. Alcohol kills, 420 erryday
D1Sergo fucked around with this message at 19:10 on May 24, 2014 |
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Arri posted:I think it should remain twenty one because your brain isn't done developing until around that age. Alcohol has a terrible effect on the developing brain. I support the same age restriction for marijuana but not as much as for alcohol. Most other Western countries have a drinking age of 18 at the most, and do not have a higher concentration of brain-damaged individuals due to drinking. How come? As for my opinion: from my experience living in a University town in the US, while growing up in a country where the age of drinking/fighting/etc was 18, I think it would be much better to have a drinking age of 18, because that would then allow for bar/s on campus, that is, a controlled environment close to student housing within which to drink, as well as the ability to simply take liquor home by buying it legally at a shop, and eliminate most horrible fraternities, whose only draw is the ability to provide liquor to minors. Since people are going to be experimenting with drinking anyway, and since they are no longer minors and therefore should no longer be considered wards, I think the benefits of allowing people to experiment and then be able to call emergency services without any legal risk in case something goes wrong far outweigh whatever costs there are. Drunk driving can be handled through investing the money saved from enforcement in drunk buses, and taking advantage of the increasing countervailing trend against car due to increased gas prices and electronic distractions.
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# ? May 24, 2014 20:32 |
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Arri posted:I think it should remain twenty one because your brain isn't done developing until around that age. Alcohol has a terrible effect on the developing brain. I support the same age restriction for marijuana but not as much as for alcohol. And at what age do you think people should be able to buy/use weapons?
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# ? May 24, 2014 20:59 |
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At 18 you can vote, get married, work, have kids, join the army and kill people, but don't you have a loving beer junior!
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# ? May 24, 2014 21:06 |
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I don't understand why "car culture" necessitates a higher drinking age. I've had a car since I was 16, and the drinking age here is 18, and I never drove drunk. Not between the ages of 18 and 21, and not since.
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# ? May 24, 2014 21:08 |
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Alcohol is haram and there should be no age at which the devil's water is legal insha'Allah.
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# ? May 24, 2014 21:10 |
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The OP is not 21 yet and is making this thread to get goon sympathy.
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# ? May 24, 2014 21:11 |