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Oh Christ there's people still pissy about the Irish derail. Look, it's been explained very clearly that it is a pedantic technical definition. I agree completely that it is a pedantic technical definition. I think that it would be extraordinarily unwise to try to use the pedantic technical definition because the word has political and cultural connotations that massively outweigh the technical geographic one. That doesn't change that the technical and pedantic definition is the one that was specifically asked for and that it is factually true. It's like kippers getting pissy about being called European. They might not like the connotation, they might not think we should be a part of Europe politically, but it doesn't change the geographical fact that this archipelago is a part of Europe. e; 69AD: The Year of the Four Emperors sees Galba, Otho, Viellius, and Vespasian all as Emperor in succession. Two thousand years later schoolchildren everywhere would think this is the funniest year ever.
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Redgrendel2001 posted:I don't think any plastic paddy has ever thought about voting rights in Ireland. You were being ridiculous; and denying that the British/English culture/nation has a proclivity towards dominating and controlling others flies in the face of history, reality, the last several hundred pages of this thread, and the current elections going on in your country. I agree I was probably being a little hyperbolic. Still, my point was that immigrant 'Irish' communities are culturally distinct from Irish 'Irish' communities. I don't think that's too controversial. And yes Britain has been, to use the proper academic term, a bit of an asshat in the recent centuries. The issue I took was the fact that you consider it an inherent part of that culture. We were no different to any other colonialist power in that regard, we just look it because we were more successful. Mister Adequate posted:Oh Christ there's people still pissy about the Irish derail. Look, it's been explained very clearly that it is a pedantic technical definition. I agree completely that it is a pedantic technical definition. I think that it would be extraordinarily unwise to try to use the pedantic technical definition because the word has political and cultural connotations that massively outweigh the technical geographic one. Basically this.
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Mister Adequate posted:Oh Christ there's people still pissy about the Irish derail. Look, it's been explained very clearly that it is a pedantic technical definition. I agree completely that it is a pedantic technical definition. I think that it would be extraordinarily unwise to try to use the pedantic technical definition because the word has political and cultural connotations that massively outweigh the technical geographic one. Transwomen are just men who cut their cocks off. They might not like it but it's a pedantic technical definition.
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May 25, 2014 18:56
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Gorn Myson posted:You're a Sussex CS student, right?
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cormac posted:Transwomen are just men who cut their cocks off. You're being disingenous here. All you're doing is twisting the argument by using an even more emotionally charged subject in order to make it impossible to maintain the argument without coming off as an rear end. A Trans-woman is a male who has had his cock cut off, based on the sex she was biologically assigned. That assigned sex is a biological fact and is wholly seperate from her gender identity. However, she is not just a male who has had his cock cut off. She is still a woman, gender-wise. There are much more complex and much deeper issues involved. These issues make the first statement unpalatable, but they do not render it wrong.
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ThomasPaine posted:All you're doing is twisting the argument by using an even more emotionally charged subject in order to make it impossible to maintain the argument without coming off as an rear end. You don't need my help there chief. Edit: To clarify: I have pointed out several times that this argument relies on redefining the meaning of the word British. The word british does not and never has refer to the island of Ireland. It refers to the U.K. and the island of Britain. Nothing else. The idea that being a part of the British Isles makes Ireland British is factually incorrect, and has no basis in reality. People from the Republic of Ireland, generally speaking, are not British. Most of us would find the suggestion that we are pretty loving offensive for reasons which should be entirely obvious to anybody who has the slightest bit of knowledge on the subject. cormac fucked around with this message at 19:15 on May 25, 2014 |
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Perhaps this will come as a shock to you, but your little derail is as pointless as it's boring. tl;dr? : No One Cares.
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May 25, 2014 19:15
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May 25, 2014 19:16
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baka kaba posted:Pickled onion are shite outside, now
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DesperateDan posted:outside, now
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Seaside Loafer posted:CS & AI but i still think its stupid to handwrite code. They should supply clean non-net machines. Never once in my whole career have I handwritten code. Or as I said make everything 100% coursework.
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May 25, 2014 19:18
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staberind posted:Perhaps this will come as a shock to you, but your little derail is as pointless as it's boring. But someone is wrong on the internet!
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Where are we going, fellas?? I was going to say Space Raiders are the true snack of the people but apparently they're 20p now
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May 25, 2014 19:19
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Now, babylon 5, that was a big pile of poo poo
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May 25, 2014 19:20
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I have to say that my favourite British snack is Mighty Munch.
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Seaside Loafer posted:CS & AI but i still think its stupid to handwrite code. They should supply clean non-net machines. Never once in my whole career have I handwritten code. Or as I said make everything 100% coursework. The only written CS exams I think are reasonable are short answer questions ("Explain what a pointer is. Show how pointers can be used to iterate data in an array"). My undergrad didn't have them but I really feel for people who have to write this crap out (see also: "Read this code and tell me what the output would be").
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DesperateDan posted:Now, babylon 5, that was a big pile of poo poo *Sound of pool balls falling into a sock*
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"Wheres Ya Tool?"cormac posted:But someone is wrong on the internet! you might as well explain the condescending "Londonderry" as opposed to "Derry", or elderly people referring to Mayanmar as Burma. English people just get puzzled by this, until people ask them if they are American, then they go from puzzled to tableflipping.
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May 25, 2014 19:29
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staberind posted:"Wheres Ya Tool?" Myanmar is the name used by the junta, no?
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baka kaba posted:Pickled onion are shite What's it like to be first against the wall?
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baka kaba posted:Where are we going, fellas?? One of our valued younger posters has blocked up the toilet with monster munch. I need that toilet back in play. How can we make that happen? How can we solve that as a team?
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How many space raiders packets do you have to eat before you gain a single measurable amount of digestible content, good or bad? Not including the packaging. e: Bobstar posted:One of our valued younger posters has blocked up the toilet with monster munch. I need that toilet back in play. How can we make that happen? How can we solve that as a team? This post made my day.
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^ It's all high-fibre goodness. Also depends if you make them into space cars or notBobstar posted:One of our valued younger posters has blocked up the toilet with monster munch. I need that toilet back in play. How can we make that happen? How can we solve that as a team? Well if they weren't already pickled onion they'll be indistinguishable now, so I'm sure you'll have lots of volunteers!
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Bobstar posted:One of our valued younger posters has blocked up the toilet with monster munch. I need that toilet back in play. How can we make that happen? How can we solve that as a team? communism
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baka kaba posted:Where are we going, fellas?? I've not seen anyone mention scampi fries yet. They're like little bags of crack, plus not half filled with air like most other bags of crisps.
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Pork scratchlings, aka pigpeel.HortonNash posted:Myanmar is the name used by the junta, no? Kind of, But, my point was that calling it A or B may upset some people, others don't really care, but if your continued employment rests on not offending either group, its a bit tricky.
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Mister Adequate posted:That doesn't change that the technical and pedantic definition is the one that was specifically asked for and that it is factually true. It's like kippers getting pissy about being called European. They might not like the connotation, they might not think we should be a part of Europe politically, but it doesn't change the geographical fact that this archipelago is a part of Europe. There is no country called Europe that oppressed a smaller country next to it for centuries and insists that said oppressed country is technically still European because Europe still calls the region by an imperialist name, despite the fact that the smaller country itself does not recognise that name as valid or accept the use of that name to describe the region. The technical pedantic definition for you and ThomasPaine is "spineless crypto-Tory masquerading as a human being". You might dislike the connotation, disagree and think you are a person but technically you're both slug-like piles of manure. I know there is a joke that everyone in here is secretly (or openly) a Tory, but Christ, I didn't expect to see people literally saying Irish people are technically still British and transwomen are technically men.
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Xachariah posted:I find exams like that fairly annoying in their abstractness. In the real world when are you required to use 3 hours to write an essay for 5 different topics with absolutely no references allowed? When else do you have to relentlessly re-read older stuff for a brief moment where you are forced to regurgitate it in a pre-approved format? While essay-based exams have their problems, the point of them is to learn how to work under pressure and apply existing information to a new context. If you regurgitate your notes and older essays in an exam by picking a question that seems vaguely related, you usually get a poo poo mark because you're not actually answering the question. It doesn't really matter how many quotes from historians or information on the metre of a poem you shoehorn in. This is why picking a hard or unexpected question, thinking about it for a bit, and coming up with a new perspective gets you much better marks than picking one that is very similar to what you already studied in detail. It impresses examiners more because it requires creativity and improvisation. What it doesn't do is test your ability to revise work, research, work with others, etc., but in theory that should have been tested by coursework and classes. Although I'm in the middle of essay-based finals right now and it sucks, I probably wouldn't go back and swap 2 of them for a dissertation because I'm so lazy about revising work. Exams are really beneficial for people who can produce a high quality first draft and then don't feel like doing anything else to it.
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Kin posted:I've not seen anyone mention scampi fries yet. They're like little bags of crack, plus not half filled with air like most other bags of crisps. Finally, someone sees the light. Scampi fries are vegitarian too, which is nice. I miss pork scratchings 
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Weldon Pemberton posted:What it doesn't do is test your ability to revise work, research, work with others, etc., but in theory that should have been tested by coursework and classes. Well guess what the nice Mr Gove is eliminating from GCSEs and GCEs, because they're not rigorous enough apparently.
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The types of people who rely on pushing Britishness tend to define it by what it isnt, not whatever technical or factual term you can come up with for what it is.
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DesperateDan posted:Now, babylon 5, that was a big pile of poo poo  loving outside boyo t 
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Everyone ready to see the fine people that will be in the European parliament tonight?
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Yep. It already looks like te Greeks (people from Greece) and the French (people from France) have plumped for the Fascists.
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IceAgeComing posted:Everyone ready to see the fine people that will be in the European parliament tonight? Undoubtedly a bunch of hard working individuals, concerned with the well being of their constituents, their country and Europe as a whole.  e: on the other hand, looks like Tsipras has done bloody well in Greece as well, so that's something. 
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May 25, 2014 20:49
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Hey guys, do we have a new prime minister yet?
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:Hey guys, do we have a new prime minister yet? I think it's some Ukrainian guy.
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Trickjaw posted:Yep. It already looks like te Greeks (people from Greece) and the French (people from France) have plumped for the Fascists. I was in Paris during the recent local French elections and remember thinking "Christ, sucks for the people of France, but at least the FN can't mess us up." I know that the relative effect of the FN being a part of the European Parliament is negligible to me, but... Still, merde.
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Seaside Loafer posted:CS & AI but i still think its stupid to handwrite code. They should supply clean non-net machines. Never once in my whole career have I handwritten code. Or as I said make everything 100% coursework. I've had a couple of interviews that wanted handwritten pseudocode on a basic problem, but never actual code. Do your exams require actual code? Anything testing coding skills should be coursework and not an exam though, because what the hell does a coding exam get you over coursework other than pressure?
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