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Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

Fausty posted:

I don't own the steam version.

If you own Universe you can get the steam version for free.

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trashcangammy
Jul 31, 2012

Archonex posted:

One of several things is happening here:

1. The pirate faction was wiped out and regenerated around when the map was stolen. Unless you set the pirate strength to a ridiculously high number though the regeneration takes quite awhile. This is on top of the fact that the new faction will need to re-arm, get re-established in the local politics, and basically have some prep time before it can do anything but raid poorly defended frontier worlds.

2. The map that was stolen is in fact accurate. When it was stolen they lost their last pirate base. Unlike empires pirates don't just lose the game because they lost their last base of operations. If they have a constructor they can still build a new one. Granted, most of their forces will defect away if they can't refuel in the meantime, but it would explain why the base is "unknown" instead of giving you a location to look for. Most likely another empire (Or if it's an age of shadows game, another pirate fleet.) is the cause of this.


If you're wanting to kill a pirate faction, there's a few things you can do:

1. Guard your outer colonies. Mid to late game, this is how savvy pirate and AI players survive the tech advantage empires have. Throw up a few escorts at least until your ships can get there.

2. Destroy every pirate facility you can find. This will absolutely cripple their economy. Doing that leads to defections if they go into the red. Check all your planets for pirate bases and fortresses to assist with this.

3. Keep an eye on independent planets with lots of pirate activity around them. Pirates and empires can use them as refueling points. Pirates can also raid them, which means they can become a hub of activity over time once a facility is set up too. Worst case scenario, the pirates make their top tier pirate facility and they get control of the planet like an empire would. This means they can do everything an empire can, and basically become the local equivalent of the Hutt Cartel from Star Wars.

4. Set up ambushes for their ships. Leave a few destroyers over a planet they commonly refuel at. Or a fleet if need be. This is a really good way to gently caress with a pirate empire that is raiding from far away or has few bases. Since energy weapons require fuel, they'll drop in with low supplies and get butchered by a fully prepped and ready group of modernized military ships. If you have some good interdiction tech you can even make the planet a no jump zone and put a starbase or interdictor over it, effectively cutting it off from usage.

5. Murder every base, ever. If you can't find the base, send out exploration ships. If that fails, board or murder some ships. You can see 3 and 4 for tips on that. I think the boarding option is better than killing them too, since it gives a higher chance of getting an event where you discover the location of a pirate base. Once you have it, run wild on that sucker. Even if it's a gas station go after it. This cripples their supply lines. If it's a fuel based harvesting base it'll also give them one less place to refuel at too.

6. Be aware that smarter pirate factions will put bases in out of the way places. If there's a nebula that murders everything that gets built inside, they'll happily put it in the center and use it for refueling only. If it's a spiral galaxy map, they'll hide a base out in the fringes of the galaxy in a gas cloud. Also, I think they can make discoveries, so they'll happily pick up special stations if possible.

7. Pirate factions don't work like empire factions. When a pirate faction is doing badly, pirates will start to mutiny. They may even start plotting to put a cap in their factional leaders to try and turn stuff around. Generally this means that the more damage you do to a faction, the more likely it is another faction will get their remaining assets.

Don't be surprised if this leads to you having a second fleet from farther away show up. In reality it's probably the first factions ships. The plus side to this is that if a faction likes you/if it thinks it'll spite someone, it may give you its stuff when it dies. This can include stations which can vastly increase the range of your ships, along with ships you can retire at your shipyards for huge tech boosts in the early shadows era.

Thanks for the great post. True to my word I started a new game which definitely doesn't have regenerating pirates. I've just wiped all the bases of a nearby pirate faction, stole their map a month ago and now it shows [Unknown Pirate Base]. Maybe there's a constructor out there somewhere. I'll keep stealing maps in the meantime and see if they pop up.

Fausty
May 16, 2014

"Flowers!"
"Is there a
John Luck Pickerd
here?"

Demiurge4 posted:

If you own Universe you can get the steam version for free.

I own everything except for universe.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Fausty posted:

I own everything except for universe.

If you own all the releases but Universe, you can buy it for $10 and receive a steam key as well. Might be worth doing?

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3439830&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=15#post430032058

Fausty
May 16, 2014

"Flowers!"
"Is there a
John Luck Pickerd
here?"

uber_stoat posted:

If you own all the releases but Universe, you can buy it for $10 and receive a steam key as well. Might be worth doing?

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3439830&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=15#post430032058

Universe adds nothing I want. I don't see the point in paying $10 so I can easily fix a planet shadow problem. Could someone kindly upload the original shadows?

EDIT: Found a fix on the last page of the GEM thread.

Fausty fucked around with this message at 19:07 on May 25, 2014

Shyrka
Feb 10, 2005

Small Boss likes to spin!
Start a new game, busily working away on developing my homeworld and setting up nearby mining bases in the pre-warp era. My leader has a negative to colony happiness, but that's alright since he has a bonus to population growth and that's what I really want.

Then a civilian ship gets built so he gains the labor oriented trait. loving labor oriented trait, how I hate thee. So now he's got huge penalties to happiness and negligible benefit to growth, so I dismiss him. And so amidst all the Ackdarians on the planet, the one who steps forth and picks up the gauntlet of leadership?



This fucker.

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

Questions: how does this game handle espionage and diplomacy? Specifically where on the scale of 1-10 does the AI stand in its diplomatic dealings with other partners (1 being Total War "declare on every neighbour that has a bit of power never mind their strength and 10 being ... Galciv 2? haven't seen many great ai) and is espionage more than steal tech/sabotage infrastructure?

also can this game run without steam?

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Another quick question, I saw it mentioned recently but now can't find it that there's an upper limit to how many mining components are effective on a ship or station. Is this correct and if so, what is the number? I always build fuckoff gigantic mining facilities and I'd hate to think I'm wasting resources.

Shyrka
Feb 10, 2005

Small Boss likes to spin!

double nine posted:

Questions: how does this game handle espionage and diplomacy? Specifically where on the scale of 1-10 does the AI stand in its diplomatic dealings with other partners (1 being Total War "declare on every neighbour that has a bit of power never mind their strength and 10 being ... Galciv 2? haven't seen many great ai) and is espionage more than steal tech/sabotage infrastructure?

also can this game run without steam?

If you buy it directly from matrix you won't need steam.

With espionage you can steal maps (of varying degrees, from simple territory to everything explored to deep cover 'see what every one of their ships sees over a prolonged period'), steal tech, destroy bases, assassinate leaders, encourage change of government, and encourage particular colonies to rebel.

As far as diplomacy goes the AI is somewhat clever. A race might see you as a threat due to your massive power and your encroachment on their borders but they'll still sign a free trade agreement with you because you're still their biggest trade partner. And if they don't want your trade they might just impose sanctions and blockade some of your far flung mining stations rather than going straight to war.

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Mister Adequate posted:

Another quick question, I saw it mentioned recently but now can't find it that there's an upper limit to how many mining components are effective on a ship or station. Is this correct and if so, what is the number? I always build fuckoff gigantic mining facilities and I'd hate to think I'm wasting resources.

4 for gas/mineral miners and you only ever need 1 luxury miner. Be sure to put lots of storage on it to cover a long while between freighter runs or it just goes to waste though.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Shyrka posted:

4 for gas/mineral miners and you only ever need 1 luxury miner. Be sure to put lots of storage on it to cover a long while between freighter runs or it just goes to waste though.

Well gently caress me. Thanks for that, now I can build mining stuff about 1/5 the size of before :v:

MS Paint
Sep 21, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Okay, Here is the deal.

I started playing today and this game runs totally shithouse.

SSD, i7 920, 8gb of ram, 770GTX. an hour in and I am chugging on a 700 star, 10x10. There is no loving reason it should run this way. I emailed them about this last year and they told me they couldn't find any problems, I even uploaded my save. I wait till this, spend 10 more dollars (after the 100 I spent) and I still get problems.

I think this means I am an idiot.

Fausty
May 16, 2014

"Flowers!"
"Is there a
John Luck Pickerd
here?"

Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:

Okay, Here is the deal.

I started playing today and this game runs totally shithouse.

SSD, i7 920, 8gb of ram, 770GTX. an hour in and I am chugging on a 700 star, 10x10. There is no loving reason it should run this way. I emailed them about this last year and they told me they couldn't find any problems, I even uploaded my save. I wait till this, spend 10 more dollars (after the 100 I spent) and I still get problems.

I think this means I am an idiot.

An i7 doesn't magically make it great. 2.66 GHz is still 2.66 GHz. It's pretty bad compared to the rest of your pc.

MS Paint
Sep 21, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Fausty posted:

An i7 doesn't magically make it great. 2.66 GHz is still 2.66 GHz. It's pretty bad compared to the rest of your pc.

That is unequivocal bullshit.

I play everything else on max settings with zero hiccups. If they have an unoptimized piece of a game, it isn't my fault it cannot run it.

I literally turn every slider to ultra and have never had an issue with any game. Yet this game shits the bed all the time. Does it not utilize multiple cores, is that a more accurate assessment?

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
I can't get this game to run through Steam at all. What am I doing wrong?

MS Paint
Sep 21, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Reason posted:

I can't get this game to run through Steam at all. What am I doing wrong?

They have have this huge laundry list of things you can do to get the game running. lemme paste it:

Hi everyone,

This is for the post-release period. In general, we find DW to be stable and trouble-free on the vast majority of systems. However, if you run into issues these are the first steps to follow.

If you are experiencing issues running Distant Worlds Universe, please follow the steps below. After each step, please run the game and check if the issue persists. Should you try each of these and you still have issues, please contact us at Support@slitherine.co.uk, or open a thread in the official Distant Worlds forum at http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tt.asp?forumid=792

1. Please update your video and sound drivers.

2. Please ensure that you have Windows Media Player installed and enabled. You can check these at:
Control Panel > Programs and Features > Windows Features > Media Features > Windows Media Player

3. Please ensure that you have Internet Explorer installed and enabled. You can check these at: Control Panel > Programs and Features > Windows Features > Internet Explorer 11

4. Please also check that Windows Management Instrumentation Service is running. To check this open:
Control Panel >Administrative Tools > Services.
In the list of services you should look for one named "Windows Management Instrumentation". The status column should say "Started".
If this is present in the list but not started, please click the "Start" link to the left of the services list.
If the game still will not start and you receive the same error, then you may have a broken installation of WMI. You can use the tool at this link to fix it: http://windowsxp.mvps.org/repairwmi.htm
If "Windows Management Instrumentation" does not exist in the services list then you will need to enable it in Windows.

5. Please ensure that no game files have been quarantined by your Internet Security package software (Anti-Virus).

6. Please run DirectX 9.0c. This can be found in:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Distant Worlds Universe\redist\DxSetup.exe

7. Please run XNA Framework 4.0. This can be found in:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Distant Worlds Universe\redist\xnafx40_redist.msi
(Steps 8-11 are also described in this guide: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/astebner/archive/2008/03/07/8108332.aspx).

8. Go to the Control Panel then Programs and Features and attempt to repair .NET Framework 4.0.

9. If a repair does not help, then try to download and run the .NET Framework Repair Tool to see if it can find and fix any issues with the .NET Framework on your computer. You can download the tool from the below link:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=30135

10. If the repair tool does not help, then go to the Add/Remove Programs control panel and attempt to uninstall .NET Framework 4.0. Then reinstall .NET Framework 4.0 from the link below:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=17718

11. If uninstall still fails from Add/Remove Programs, download the .NET Framework cleanup tool and choose to remove .NET Framework 4.0. Then reinstall again .NET Framework 4.0 (using the file downloaded in the previous step). The cleanup tool can be found at the below link:
http://blogs.msdn.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer-Components-PostAttachments/00-08-90-44-93/dotnetfx_5F00_cleanup_5F00_tool.zip

12. Please run msconfig and disable all background programs and then run the game. If the issue is resolved, then you can re-enable each program until you find the interfering program. You can see a tutorial of how to use msconfig below:
https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/shutting-down-background-applications

13. Install and run the game with your Internet Security package software (Anti-Virus) temporarily disabled.

14. Please check that you have Microsoft User Account Control disabled, then reinstall and run the game. A tutorial on how to do this can be found below:
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/disable-user-account-control-uac-the-easy-way-on-windows-vista/

-----

If you are running Windows XP and your Distant Worlds is crashing please follow these steps to troubleshoot and remedy the problem.

Step 1. Locate tou Redist folder. This is most commonly located at C:\Matrix Games\ Distant Worlds Universe\Redist. This path may be different based on the instilation path you chose during instilation.

Step 2. Locate the file named "dotnetfx35.exe" and run the exe. If it asks you to restart your system please do so.

Step 3. Locate the file named "dotNetFx40_Full_x86_x64.exe" and run the exe. If it asks you to restart your system please do so.

Step 4. Locate the file named "DXSETUP.exe" and run the exe. If it asks you to restart your system please do so.

Step 5. Locate the file named "xnafx40_redist.msi" and run the exe. If it asks you to restart your system please do so.

Step 6. Restart your coputer.

Step 7. Run Distant Worlds Universe. If you continue to have probles continue to step 8.

Step 8. Locate the Distant worlds crash log. This is commonly located by:

Windows XP: got to start menu. Click "Run". Type %appdata% and click ok. Double Click "Code Force Limited". Double Click "Distant Worlds" Double Click "1.9.5.0". Post the DW_CrashDump.txt to the Distant Worlds Support Forums at http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tt.asp?forumid=792
Windows vista and 7. Open Start Menu. Type %appdata% and press enter(or return). Double Click "Code Force Limited". Double Click "Distant Worlds" Double Click "1.9.5.0". Post the DW_CrashDump.txt to the Distant Worlds Support Forums at http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tt.asp?forumid=792
Windows 8 and 8.1 Open a explorer window. In the address bar type %appdata% and press enter Double Click "Code Force Limited". Double Click "Distant Worlds" Double Click "1.9.5.0". Post the DW_CrashDump.txt to the Distant Worlds Support Forums at http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tt.asp?forumid=792

Before you start laughing, that is literally the Steam Thread posted by a Dev on how to get their Brand New Expansion running.

ahahahaha

Dallan Invictus
Oct 11, 2007

The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes, look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.

Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:

That is unequivocal bullshit.

I play everything else on max settings with zero hiccups. If they have an unoptimized piece of a game, it isn't my fault it cannot run it.

Most other games are graphics hogs so your GPU is more in control of how well you can run it. This game is more memory and CPU bound. Your CPU is literally five and a half years old, and was two and a half years old the day the game was released. I wouldn't be surprised if you were having issues.

(edit: maybe I should be surprised then!)

Dallan Invictus fucked around with this message at 23:02 on May 25, 2014

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:

Before you start laughing, that is literally the Steam Thread posted by a Dev on how to get their Brand New Expansion running.

ahahahaha

Jesus christ.

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice

Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:

They have have this huge laundry list of things you can do to get the game running. lemme paste it:

Before you start laughing, that is literally the Steam Thread posted by a Dev on how to get their Brand New Expansion running.

ahahahaha

Indie games are truly something magical sometimes.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

Fausty posted:

I was stupid and didn't make a backup folder. Can you upload the shading.png please?

Attached to this post is a fix for the shading issue.

trashcangammy
Jul 31, 2012

Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:

That is unequivocal bullshit.

Yeah p much. I'm on an i5 and I'm actually impressed how much is going on, with apps in the background no less, without any slowdown. The game is well optimised for other systems, something is definitely awry.

Travic
May 27, 2007

Getting nowhere fast

trashcangammy posted:

Yeah p much. I'm on an i5 and I'm actually impressed how much is going on, with apps in the background no less, without any slowdown. The game is well optimised for other systems, something is definitely awry.

Core i5-750 checking in. Yeah, your CPU should be fine. Root around and close some background programs to see what the problem is.

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:

They have have this huge laundry list of things you can do to get the game running. lemme paste it:

Hi everyone,

This is for the post-release period. In general, we find DW to be stable and trouble-free on the vast majority of systems. However, if you run into issues these are the first steps to follow.

12. Please run msconfig and disable all background programs and then run the game. If the issue is resolved, then you can re-enable each program until you find the interfering program. You can see a tutorial of how to use msconfig below:

wow. Talk about going overboard.

DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

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Fausty posted:

An i7 doesn't magically make it great. 2.66 GHz is still 2.66 GHz. It's pretty bad compared to the rest of your pc.

I have an i7 920 and it is so god drat easy to overclock it. Mine EASILY makes it to 3.4 GHz and I have no doubt that I could push it up past 4.0 if I wanted to invest more time into making it stable. CPU's haven't advanced leaps and bounds like GPU's have. That being said, my rig runs this game fine so I dunno what's going on with his.

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Ugh, just spent a few hours cultivating a nice little sub-light empire only to find out that I'm surrounded by 5 bug empires who out tech me by miles and proceed to wipe me out. No more 'random empire' games.

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

V for Vegas posted:

Ugh, just spent a few hours cultivating a nice little sub-light empire only to find out that I'm surrounded by 5 bug empires who out tech me by miles and proceed to wipe me out. No more 'random empire' games.

I want to mod in a new drive tree where nobody gets super fast stuff, just more efficient stuff. I wonder how the civilian AI will handle it though, it'll probably fly halfway across the galaxy in half an hour if it's got the range for it.

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


So does this game have tons of randomly complex systems in a giant stew of bloated 4xness with cracks in the gameplay that allow really cheesy busted tactics to win, or is this is a legitimately interesting and challenging game?

Zombie #246
Apr 26, 2003

Murr rgghhh ahhrghhh fffff
Something I never really tried, but if you put lasers on civilian ships/mining stations will they defend themselves?

Bloodly
Nov 3, 2008

Not as strong as you'd expect.
Mining stations, yes. They're unrestricted in what they can mount.(Reminder, make damm sure they get Missiles-it sucks to not hit something due to range).

Civilians like cargo ships, not so much. They're only allowed one weapon, can't have fighter bays, and their tactics are hard-locked to evade(Somehow they're not restricted on Assault Pods, though). It used to be unrestricted, then people realised the best defence was reconfigured civilian ships. It also caused diplomatic problems because such things counted as military ships to the AI. So it was changed.

Point to note, there's nothing stopping a military ship from equipping mining stuff.

There's been a few things like that over the game's history. Not many, but some. It's also why there's a size restriction on bases 'not at a colony'. I recall you used to get people making super-bases of sorts with ridiculous size.

Bloodly fucked around with this message at 03:45 on May 26, 2014

Zombie #246
Apr 26, 2003

Murr rgghhh ahhrghhh fffff

victrix posted:

So does this game have tons of randomly complex systems in a giant stew of bloated 4xness with cracks in the gameplay that allow really cheesy busted tactics to win, or is this is a legitimately interesting and challenging game?

The games systems are complexish, but with a goal in mind; as far as I've played, I haven't seen something that is really crazy overpowered. There's the standards of 4x, where research speed is king and everything snowballs, but at least the espionage can make up for it if you fall behind.

EDIT: No wait, not sure if they fixed this, but in one of the older versions I had one really badass spy who stole from the Ancients (which are basically a super advanced but derelict/nearly extinct machine race that is there for story purposes) repeatedly, so that might be considered a broken tactic.

The nice thing about the game is that the challenge will stay throughout the game, even if its a bit uneven at times; i.e. you might wander into a bunch of free colonies in the form of independent races that like you, or you might come across the gigantic hive of bug races that found the Temple of Darkness and follow a religion meant to annihilate all other races and they kick your rear end.

Late game has some story related suprises (very late game), and there's always the chance your empire will get unhappy and explode into several offshoots following civil war iirc.

DancingMachine
Aug 12, 2004

He's a dancing machine!
This game looks amazing. I am totally mystified as to how I never heard of it before. Shows how important it is to get on Steam, I guess.

Stevefin
Sep 30, 2013

Yeah it can change quickly. some times to level of stupidly unfairness my first empire game as a prewarp start up lasted less than an ingame year as a pirate faction found a super capital very early on, camped it over my homeworld and would not accept protection money

edgeman83
Jul 13, 2003

Stevefin posted:

Yeah it can change quickly. some times to level of stupidly unfairness my first empire game as a prewarp start up lasted less than an ingame year as a pirate faction found a super capital very early on, camped it over my homeworld and would not accept protection money

Yeah, I just started a game where the pirates just wouldn't let me build anything. I paid them off, had enough money coming in and in the bank, but then they would cancel the agreement and blow all of my stuff up. Kinda frustrating not being able to do anything to stop it.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Was playing a new game earlier tonight and I had a pirate faction cancel our protection agreement about a week after we signed it. I thought "oh boy here we go" but another week later they asked for protection money again... at 1/3 the price we had previous agreed upon :v:

Shyrka
Feb 10, 2005

Small Boss likes to spin!

Demiurge4 posted:

I want to mod in a new drive tree where nobody gets super fast stuff, just more efficient stuff. I wonder how the civilian AI will handle it though, it'll probably fly halfway across the galaxy in half an hour if it's got the range for it.

That'd be fantastic for changing up how the game plays. Every freighter and construction ship would demand a military escort because there's no 'bug out quick' hyperspace option, and every mining station would have to be a miniature fortress in order to survive without reinforcement.

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003
Is there an option somewhere to turn off "all newly built ships start out automated"? How does everyone deal with newly built ships just flying off to suicide themselves - for example, if you have a world set to be colonized via the AI popup, lots of newly-built ships will be funneled there as soon as they are built with the "wait at X" order; if there are a bunch of pirates orbiting that planet then it's basically just ships flying into the grinder for no reason and a complete waste of money, so you have to either cancel the colonization or babysit the place(s) that are producing ships.

Please tell me I'm overlooking something here.

Stevefin
Sep 30, 2013

Shyrka posted:

That'd be fantastic for changing up how the game plays. Every freighter and construction ship would demand a military escort because there's no 'bug out quick' hyperspace option, and every mining station would have to be a miniature fortress in order to survive without reinforcement.

I would not mind a system gravity well. that is one option Stardrive gave that I liked extremely and changed it enough that it felt like a different game, I would have ships not fitted with FTL that could move fast act as system patrol

Stevefin fucked around with this message at 14:24 on May 26, 2014

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



I just bought this game, I have a feeling I'm either going to hate it or become totally addicted.

Zombie #246
Apr 26, 2003

Murr rgghhh ahhrghhh fffff

Sheep posted:

Is there an option somewhere to turn off "all newly built ships start out automated"? How does everyone deal with newly built ships just flying off to suicide themselves - for example, if you have a world set to be colonized via the AI popup, lots of newly-built ships will be funneled there as soon as they are built with the "wait at X" order; if there are a bunch of pirates orbiting that planet then it's basically just ships flying into the grinder for no reason and a complete waste of money, so you have to either cancel the colonization or babysit the place(s) that are producing ships.

Please tell me I'm overlooking something here.

I believe itts a checkbox toward the botton of the main olptions when you hit esc ingame. I had to do that so my construction ships wouldn't run away as soon as I made them

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



I'm playing through the Tutorial but I'm still a bit confused about Resources. Basically, you should always build Gas Mining Stations on gas giants (makes sense) while building normal mining Stations on normal planets?

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MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

Phlegmish posted:

I'm playing through the Tutorial but I'm still a bit confused about Resources. Basically, you should always build Gas Mining Stations on gas giants (makes sense) while building normal mining Stations on normal planets?

Yep. Go after planets/moons/asteroids that have resource %'s over ~60% unless you are hurting for that particular resource. For the most part you can let the AI take care of building mining stations for you, though make sure you grab a source of Caslon (your primary fuel source for your early engines) ASAP. When you start building out into other solar systems it would do you a whole lot of good to manually order a mining ship to build a Gas Mining station at a planet with some Caslon. That way your civilian ships have a refueling station within the system and they can better auto-acquire resources for you.

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