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Alright so I'm confused about part of this movie's plot, but I might be missing something here and it's bugging me. So the whole idea was that Mystique killing Trask turned humanity against the mutants and started the Sentinel death robots program. But the government already thinks Magneto killed JFK?! Murdering a defense contractor merits building death robots but murdering the president doesn't?
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May 26, 2014 02:56
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Jackman's said he's only doing the role one more time and the script has to be incredible, I don't think he's attached to the next film. Neither are Stewart or Mckellan. It's almost certainly going to be the "young" cast.
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May 26, 2014 02:58
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I may be late to this, but Dinklage was motivated by the dwarfism. He right out says that he's against mutants because they would force humanity to unite and improve themselves, and his ego booster pic that hides the dossiers reeks of "inferior human wins out over the competition through the only way he knows how: ruthless breakthroughs". It was really nice how they juxtaposed the evil monologue with the Sentinel onslaught; it made actually root for the sentinels over the second it took us to realise that we too were giving ourselves over to fear. I really hope that next movie they don't go back to Rogue or Jean. Kitty has more stage presence, and a gently caress it Hope Summers movie is way better than another love triangle. Sithsaber fucked around with this message at 03:16 on May 26, 2014 |
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May 26, 2014 03:13
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mrs. nicholas sarkozy posted:Alright so I'm confused about part of this movie's plot, but I might be missing something here and it's bugging me. So the whole idea was that Mystique killing Trask turned humanity against the mutants and started the Sentinel death robots program. But the government already thinks Magneto killed JFK?! Murdering a defense contractor merits building death robots but murdering the president doesn't? I wondered this in the movie too. The closest reasoning I could work out was that the government viewed Magneto as a rouge villain and wasn't truly aware how many mutants there were. After Mystique killed Trask, the government realized "Oh poo poo, all mutants are like Magneto and Mystique." That leads them to start the Sentinel program because all mutants are obviously bad and must be captured/destroyed. When Mystique doesn't kill Trask, the government realizes that Magneto doesn't represent the entire mutant population so they do not start the Sentinel program.
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May 26, 2014 03:17
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So this is relevant and amazing... http://imgur.com/gallery/8cS3w ( My forgiveness if this was posted but I didn't see it. )
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May 26, 2014 03:17
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The Dave posted:So this is relevant and amazing... I saw that earlier today, Jackman looks like a baby.
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May 26, 2014 03:20
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Shakugan posted:Saw this last night and really enjoyed it Quicksilver was such a stage stealer. Singularity at work. The Sentinels being super adaptoids just accelerated the process. I could have enjoyed a glimpse of Sentinel city and their human collaborators though.
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May 26, 2014 03:22
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Loved the movie but felt it was a bit of a cop out to just kill 90 percent of First Classes cast off screen.
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May 26, 2014 03:34
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Mooseontheloose posted:Loved the movie but felt it was a bit of a cop out to just kill 90 percent of First Classes cast off screen. Don't worry, they can come back.
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May 26, 2014 03:38
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I enjoy how the movie doesn't explain how Patrick Stewart isn't dead and leaves it up to the viewer to piece it together from post-credits scenes (or having someone tell me) and also how Ellen Page doesn't age in 20 years, or anyone else besides Wolverine's hair. That silliness aside this was a really fun and clever movie, except all the horrifying deaths.quote:Don't worry, they can come back. No they died before the movie happened, so they're just dead except Havoc.
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May 26, 2014 03:43
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Reading Discworld books, it's obvious that Xavier's new body altered itself into the form of Patrick Stewart by conforming to his morphic field.
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May 26, 2014 03:48
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What if Xavier actually didn't look like Patrick Stewart in the future but he was just projecting that image with his mind?
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May 26, 2014 03:52
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^^^ wouldn't suprise me at all considering he was doing that very thing in DoFP to MystiqueRBA Starblade posted:No they died before the movie happened, so they're just dead except Havoc. I think he means there could be more time travel or retcons or what have you since the X-men movies now seem to be embracing the silliness of the comics but in the best way.
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May 26, 2014 03:53
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Or they listened to the fans and culled the characters played by lovely actors.
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May 26, 2014 03:54
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Jack Gladney posted:I envy him for not having seen the first Wolverine movie, but X-Men 2 was also half about this so probably they could assume you might know about it. I do know the whole weapon X thing but considering you almost always see the wolverine with his adamantium claws it was different seeing him with his bone claws. I do want to see a movie of him getting adamantium regrafted to his body but that I think is a spoiler.
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May 26, 2014 03:57
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Rhyno posted:Or they listened to the fans and culled the characters played by lovely actors. Or just lovely characters, save Azazel.
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May 26, 2014 04:13
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Never in a million TRILLION years did I ever think we'd see Cyclops again.
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May 26, 2014 04:20
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Slim Killington posted:Or just lovely characters, save Azazel. poo poo, I forgot Jason Flemming played Azazel. There goes my theory.
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May 26, 2014 04:22
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BrianWilly posted:And is it just me or is young Magneto just extraordinarily dumb in this film for no particular reason? Everything he does, even down to the thing about him accidentally killing JFK when he was actually trying to save him (how????), felt like the actions of a man who couldn't plan more than two steps ahead to save his own life. Wasnt he just bullshitting Xavier, taking advantage of the fact that he cant read his mind?
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May 26, 2014 04:33
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For those wondering, Apocalypse's powers are literally anything the writers want them to be. Technically, he's supposed to be able to just grow to any size he wants and turn his arms into guns/swords/shields and poo poo. He's also an immortal (believed to be the first mutant) and is pulling out a zillion other powers out of his rear end at any given time (telepathy, matter manipulation, flight, energy beams, etc etc)
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May 26, 2014 04:42
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Slim Killington posted:Or just lovely characters, save Azazel. I legitimately liked Emma Frost, at least in the scene when she's got the Russian guy thinking he's screwing her, when she's really sitting there  ing.She needs to come back. I mean, c'mon, January Jones is beautiful. 
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May 26, 2014 04:45
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The Dave posted:So this is relevant and amazing... They really wanted to make sure you knew it was the year 2000 when they dressed themselves that morning. Such innocent times.
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May 26, 2014 04:47
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spidoman posted:Don't worry, they can come back. Azazel, Angel, Banshee, Emma: Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
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May 26, 2014 04:49
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Why did Magneto's hat look so old and stony even though he refinished it at the end of First Class?
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May 26, 2014 05:34
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scary ghost dog posted:Why did Magneto's hat look so old and stony even though he refinished it at the end of First Class? I don't think it was the same helmet.
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May 26, 2014 05:35
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Rhyno posted:I don't think it was the same helmet. But he took it out of that vault with all the other props from First Class.
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May 26, 2014 05:35
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Here's my idea for the next X-men movie: gently caress timelines. gently caress backgrounds. We know who these people are. Just throw the dream team into it and be loving done with it. Prof X, Cyclops, Jean, Storm, Beast, Wolverine, Rogue, Iceman, Gambit, Nightcrawler, Shadowcat, Colossus, Deadpool
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May 26, 2014 05:36
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scary ghost dog posted:Why did Magneto's hat look so old and stony even though he refinished it at the end of First Class? That seriously threw me off - suddenly it's this ancient relic thats been rusted by the sea. Also Wolverine calling everyone by their first name except Storm - its loving Ororo!
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May 26, 2014 05:38
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scary ghost dog posted:But he took it out of that vault with all the other props from First Class. The design looks slightly different. I mean, the rest of his uniform changes as well.
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May 26, 2014 05:42
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Rhyno posted:The design looks slightly different. I mean, the rest of his uniform changes as well. It looks SUPER different. It's definitely not the same helmet:  
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May 26, 2014 05:49
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TheJoker138 posted:It looks SUPER different. It's definitely not the same helmet: I didn't feel like GISing, thanks for that. I was right!
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May 26, 2014 05:51
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E the Shaggy posted:Never in a million TRILLION years did I ever think we'd see Cyclops again. I really hope they do something with him in the subsequent films. James Marsden is a great actor and Cyclops is my hands down favorite X-man. Even if they re-cast the role to get someone younger, I just want to see badass tactician leader Cyclops on film once.
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May 26, 2014 06:04
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E the Shaggy posted:For those wondering, Apocalypse's powers are literally anything the writers want them to be. Yeah he's pretty great. En Sabah Nuhr, and what not.
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May 26, 2014 06:06
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The Dave posted:So this is relevant and amazing... drat how did Halle Berry get away with that outfit??? And what is it with awful depictions of Richard Nixon in movies? I think the best one I've seen so far is in Black Dynamite.
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May 26, 2014 06:21
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Cacator posted:drat how did Halle Berry get away with that outfit??? Watchmen had a really good Nixon.
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May 26, 2014 06:31
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TheJoker138 posted:It looks SUPER different. It's definitely not the same helmet: Is it a big deal really? They're two different movies from two different directors and Singer likely just took things in a different stylistic direction this time, it happens all the time with movies and especially comics. The "battle" outfits for the X-men team have varied between every film.
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May 26, 2014 06:32
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TheJoker138 posted:It looks SUPER different. It's definitely not the same helmet: They had to design the prop in First Class to fit both Kevin Bacon and Michael Assbender's heads, so it was an oversized mess. They could re-design it for this one, but yeah, they went a little overboard on the cosmetic changes. As for Nixon? I'll never believe any portrayal of him that isn't in Futurama. Even actual recordings of the man sound wrong because they're not done by Billy West.
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May 26, 2014 06:37
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Stonefish posted:They had to design the prop in First Class to fit both Kevin Bacon and Michael Assbender's heads, so it was an oversized mess. They could re-design it for this one, but yeah, they went a little overboard on the cosmetic changes. Do you have a source that says they literally only had one helmet for this reason? And why would that matter when the helmet he's wearing at the end is another completely different one than what he's wearing through the earlier parts of the film:  They are three totally different helmets.
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May 26, 2014 06:45
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TheJoker138 posted:Do you have a source that says they literally only had one helmet for this reason? And why would that matter when the helmet he's wearing at the end is another completely different one than what he's wearing through the earlier parts of the film: Not him but I kinda assumed that he'd gone to the trouble of having the helmet painted after the Cuba scene and also stuck that little thingie on the top.
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TheJoker138 posted:Watchmen had a really good Nixon. No, I definitely filed that one under "bad Nixon". Mainly due to the ridiculous prosthetic nose.
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