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RBA Starblade posted:I do a lot of pvp, but you really can't do much when you're dead when there isn't even an opponent on screen to stab you. I'm just grumpy it happened four times in a row. I'm making up for that unfun by casting affinity then chameleon then running around the belfries as the Battle Barrels. It's surprisingly effective when the other guy can't see what spell you're queuing up. Lag like that is very rare for most people. Blame your internet connection. Your Computer posted:I literally couldn't get past Heide's because I was invaded seconds after I respawned at the bonfire. Certain places are hotspots, and being unable to progress in the game because of these hotspots is a problem. As said above, there is an invasion cooldown after you get killed by an invader. Even discounting that, invasions are still super loving rare. I think i've been invaded maybe a dozen times outside the belfries/ng+ as a sinner.
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I have well over a hundred wins over bell touchers now but the bell bro puppets don't want to give me their swanky suit :\
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May 28, 2014 04:11
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I've noticed in NG+ I get invaded actually much more frequently than I ever got invaded in Dark Souls 1. However, it's also been the case that it's been the same single person invading in that area many, many times. In huntsman's copse for example, I ended up doing some freelance phantom work and was not only invaded myself by one guy, but almost every time I was helping as a phantom! I genuinely hope that he cheated himself the red eye orbs to do so because I'd imagine it must've been agony to farm them the way From intended.
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May 28, 2014 04:12
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I have only been invaded once (non-bluebro) and I have put an absolutely embarrassing amount of time into this game. Like, a quantity of hours I am not even willing to disclose. In both NG and NG+. That's how rare invasions are.
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Your Computer posted:I completely forgot about that There's a few places to farm them if you really need them, but I use between 2-4 per area and keep finding enough to still be in the double digits with them.
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May 28, 2014 04:12
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Is there an unlimited supply at some point in the game?
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Iretep posted:I'm convinced burning effigies is meant for bloodbros so they don't get bored of the legions of blue mage invaders. Yeah if you're going to be spending any time in an area once you get to high SM you have to burn an effigy otherwise you'll get invaded by the same blue boys over and over. Not something you want to deal with while trying to grind the Ruin Sentinel hell hole, for example. Your Computer posted:Then I really wonder what was going on. I don't know how long the cooldown is but its long enough that you can easily make it through a zone as small as Heides before it wears off, even if you fight every enemy between you and the boss.
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May 28, 2014 04:14
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I've been invaded about 10 times in all outside of grey phantoms. It's not that common really.
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Internet Kraken posted:I don't know how long the cooldown is but its long enough that you can easily make it through a zone as small as Heides before it wears off, even if you fight every enemy between you and the boss. I'm telling you that's not the case though. Mind you, this was NG+, and as Cowcaster says.. Cowcaster posted:I've noticed in NG+ I get invaded actually much more frequently than I ever got invaded in Dark Souls 1. However, it's also been the case that it's been the same single person invading in that area many, many times. ...It was the same dude, over and over and over. I will agree that they're not all that common in a regular NG playthrough though. I've already put over 120 hours into this game, most on NG (different builds, etc.) and I've only been invaded a handful of times in specific areas (not counting the bell hell). Your Computer fucked around with this message at 04:18 on May 28, 2014 |
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May 28, 2014 04:16
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You're complaining about invasions when you're in ng+, seriously?
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Genocyber posted:You're complaining about invasions when you're in ng+, seriously? Why is that a problem?  I love the PVE part of this game, but as I previously stated the PVP has never worked properly for me. If it wasn't all teleporting and frontal backstabs it'd at least feel like my own fault.
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May 28, 2014 04:21
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quote:...It was the same dude, over and over and over. Are you sure it wasn't an npc?
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May 28, 2014 04:22
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Everyone who has invaded me has been so loving awful at the game that in most cases I can just bait them into rolling off a cliff or having them walk into my attacks. The key to pvp is to always dodge and keep the offensive. Defensive is useless in pvp so go at them like a crazed madman who can't sit still. I suck at PVP but turning off my brain and letting myself flail and dodge has gotten me out almost every invasion and duel. Got me my 30 scales too. Arenas are another ballgame entirely. Min/maxed players out the rear end and I keep getting players with Japanese names who are the master and commander of DS so I just die.
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May 28, 2014 04:22
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Genocyber posted:You're complaining about invasions when you're in ng+, seriously? I think 2/3rds of all of my posts in this thread has been bitching in one form or another.  I was having some super lovely focus or something and in the time it took me to get through Harvest Valley in NG5, I had already been invaded 4 times. It was happening crazy often even for me. It wouldn't have been as bad if I stopped being a moron and getting hit by regular enemies so much, but still. It was basically a preemptive game over as soon as I saw the invasion warning.
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May 28, 2014 04:23
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What's a good boss for sunbro-ing at around 175k soul memory?
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I just realized that the Witchtree Branch is a larger version of the Oolacile catalyst. Huh.
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Your Computer posted:and my internet is fantastic. No it's not. Also after three straight games with PvP and co-op both being an integral part of the game, how are you not expecting to be invaded? Why did you buy this game, knowing that there is a high probability that somehow, some way, even when given a mechanic to stop invasions, you would be invaded by another player?
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Stokes posted:No it's not. Also after three straight games with PvP and co-op both being an integral part of the game, how are you not expecting to be invaded? Why did you buy this game, knowing that there is a high probability that somehow, some way, even when given a mechanic to stop invasions, you would be invaded by another player? 30 Mbps down, 10 Mbps up should be plenty for this game. I'm not saying I'm not expecting to get invaded, just that I dislike it. As I already said, I completely adore these games for their PVE. The atmosphere, engine, difficulty, lore, everything. I love the way you can actually learn the patterns and timings and get good at the game. PVP is something else, and a part I'd gladly do without. I don't see why this angers you guys e: Like I said, I've already put over 120 hours into this and prepared to spend more. It's absolutely one of my favourite games ever, even if I'm complete rubbish at stuff involving PVP. I just feel the game wouldn't lose anything by disabling people showing up and ruining my fun v  v
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Your Computer posted:30 Mbps down, 10 Mbps up should be plenty for this game. People get bent out of shape over videogames pretty easily as it turns out. But yeah, burning a human effigy is going to be the way to go for you. The game throws them at you and they're non-essential for actually turning human. You will need some stashed away for an optional sidequest though so keep that in mind.
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Your Computer posted:30 Mbps down, 10 Mbps up should be plenty for this game. You can do without. Just turn off you internet when starting the game so it goes into offline mode. Or just burn an effigy at each bonfire.
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May 28, 2014 04:34
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Come to think of it, "Go explore a different area where there's not a single guy crushing red eye orbs as fast as he can" is another valid option, although harder to gauge.
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Your Computer posted:30 Mbps down, 10 Mbps up should be plenty for this game. That doesn't matter. What matters is how your ip connects to From Software's servers. And if it's as bad as you say it is, it's your/your IP's problem. Not theirs. quote:PVP is something else, quote:I don't see why this angers you guys Because you are complaining about something that you really shouldn't be complaining about, considering you knew what you were getting yourself into by purchasing the game.
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May 28, 2014 04:36
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Your connection speed doesn't matter much. The latency between clients in either Dark Souls is impressively mind bending. 120 Titanite Chunks in my inventory and still no Bell Keeper zootsuit.
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May 28, 2014 04:37
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Stokes posted:Because you are complaining about something that you really shouldn't be complaining about, considering you knew what you were getting yourself into by purchasing the game. Considering From was boasting about how it would be better this time around and there have been precisely 0 improvements, I really doubt that. Either way, your internet connection alone doesn't matter as much as you'd expect it to, it's just a matter of From's servers not being able to keep up with the bajillion people that are playing. When the immediate popularity boost dies off it'll probably even out a little.
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So I've never actually burned an effigy before, I'm guessing it's a timed thing? If so, how long does it last? 10 min? 30? It's true that I've got several but I've kinda been saving them for the, uh, covenant. e: Stokes posted:No it's not. It is a core part of the Dark Souls experience, as it has been since Demon Souls. 
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personally I believe people are allowed to like and dislike whatever aspects of a game they want whether it's "core to the experience" or not
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I FINALLY beat an invader, and it was with my silly Gigan outfit too. He tried pulling out an Avelyn when he was about to lose too, but I remembered someone suggested just dashing diagonally forward and that worked to get me close enough to pop him in the jaw one last time. Edit: He reinvaded and ganked me. :/ Cyberventurer fucked around with this message at 04:56 on May 28, 2014 |
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Aren't From's servers just used to manage match making and the actual connection between hosts and visitors is entirely peer-to-peer?
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DSauer posted:120 Titanite Chunks in my inventory and still no Bell Keeper zootsuit. I physically can't carry any more chunks now.
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Your Computer posted:So I've never actually burned an effigy before, I'm guessing it's a timed thing? If so, how long does it last? 10 min? 30? It's true that I've got several but I've kinda been saving them for the, uh, covenant. I think its like 30 minutes.
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Cardboard Box posted:personally I believe people are allowed to like and dislike whatever aspects of a game they want whether it's "core to the experience" or not They are. It's stupid as hell to bring it up three games deep, with each game integrating the player contact aspects more.
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It's an hour, and I think it only ticks down as long as you're actually in the region it's covering.
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RBA Starblade posted:I physically can't carry any more chunks now. I don't actually have 120, I've got 99 now but I've used well over another twenty in upgrades. This doesn't make sense.
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CJacobs posted:Considering From was boasting about how it would be better this time around and there have been precisely 0 improvements, Zero improvements. You can completely turn off PvP by burning an effigy. They took such a massive dump on early game PvP, it has rendered the two main PvP covenants nearly useless until your second time through the game. Zero improvements. It's ok to admit when you're wrong.
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anyone around 1.7 that has a lizard staff they wanna trade? I've got a spare blacksteel katana.
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So I found out that using the trick to jump down to Iron Keep from the Bellfry Sol bonfire, there's a little spot where you can invade people in the lava room of doom. What a great place for PvP  (I've rolled into lava like 5 times now)
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For whatever reason, the Battle Barrel is unstoppable. Unless you climb a ladder or something, I guess there's not much it can do about that. This is such a dumb gimmick but it's really fun at the same time. For best results, stay close to a corner, then fire off soul greatsword when they try to chug from behind it. DSauer posted:I don't actually have 120, I've got 99 now but I've used well over another twenty in upgrades. This doesn't make sense. That's strange. You've talked to them enough right? Maybe you got it already? Are you sure you didn't get more chunks through exploration and purchasing than you think?
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The only solution is to kill more people.
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It's not going to help any on its own but you can talk to Shalquior in Majula to check exactly what rank you are within the covenant, albeit not the progress you've made. If she says you're rank 2, you know what must be done.
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Stokes posted:Zero improvements. That second thing ain't no improvement  That dude's internet doesn't like PVP for whatever reason, maybe it's really lossy, let him ask how to avoid it without taking a dump on him, sheesh
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I did the twitter thing someone said I should do. Maybe Supergiant Games-senpai will notice me. I wish twitter didn't auto-.jpg images.
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