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blackswordca posted:So a call came in: Echoing the sentiments about future growth, although any place sounds better than the current job whos business model is loosely based around baboons slinging poo poo at one another.
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Sickening posted:I am always leery of future growth promises. They seem like a way to add value to a position without actually bringing any value. Do you want a teir 1 position? That is what I would be asking myself when looking at any offers.
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May 28, 2014 19:11
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Sickening posted:I am always leery of future growth promises. They seem like a way to add value to a position without actually bringing any value. Do you want a teir 1 position? That is what I would be asking myself when looking at any offers. So a job offer came in. base raise of 10%, plus monthly bonuses ( will need to see how those work ) Mostly work from home with some onsite. Monthly cell phone stipend as well. Wage renegotiation after probation is done ( 3 months )
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May 28, 2014 19:13
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blackswordca posted:So a job offer came in. Work from home is a really nice perk. Congrats.
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May 28, 2014 19:15
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blackswordca posted:So a call came in: Now keep in mind that we all agree it's a terrible idea to burn bridges. You should always go through the proper procedures established by the unwritten rule of two weeks notice and the appropriate offloading of tasks and knowledge transfers. I'm pretty sure we can also all agree that you should just wait until the day before the new job starts and do this nsfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIqeXSYc8nE
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May 28, 2014 19:17
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blackswordca posted:So a call came in: Get it in writing! Congrats
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May 28, 2014 19:18
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I can't believe you're trying to entrap your old boss by leaving and forcing him to be exposed as a colossal waste of space. I've heard from sources that my old boss is still playing the game of blaming me for issues 10 months after I quit, despite everything working perfectly while I was there. And people are believing it. It's nice to have confirmation that you really did work with and for complete arseholes, makes the walking out decision feel even better.
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May 28, 2014 19:21
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Oh my god I can't believe blackswordca is actually getting out of there. DONT gently caress THIS UP MAN
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May 28, 2014 19:24
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I've only lurked this thread, if only for an idea of how not to treat IT in the future, but godspeed blackswordca.
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May 28, 2014 19:27
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Don't forget to keep in touch with a few friends on the inside who can feed you inside information so you know what happens once you leave.
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May 28, 2014 19:29
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Renegret posted:Don't forget to keep in touch with a few friends on the inside who can feed you inside information ftfy
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May 28, 2014 19:33
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Congrats blackswordca!!! I'll drink a beer tonight for you. 
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May 28, 2014 19:35
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Bravo! If you're leaving any friends behind, see if you can score them an interview too.
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Sickening posted:I am always leery of future growth promises. They seem like a way to add value to a position without actually bringing any value. Do you want a teir 1 position? That is what I would be asking myself when looking at any offers. When I took my posuition here, the hiring manager basically said I was overqualified for the position they hired me on, but a position would be opening up within 6 months they wanted to move me to. That happened in 3 months. While I agree with what you're saying, it's not ALWAYS bullshit. And honestly, I'd tell BSCA to take it anyway.
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May 28, 2014 19:37
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blackswordca posted:So a job offer came in. Holy poo poo congratulations. I actually feel real physical relief at you getting out of that godawful position. I'll have to buy you a beer or something.
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May 28, 2014 19:38
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Paladine_PSoT posted:Now keep in mind that we all agree it's a terrible idea to burn bridges. You should always go through the proper procedures established by the unwritten rule of two weeks notice and the appropriate offloading of tasks and knowledge transfers. nitrogen posted:While I agree with what you're saying, it's not ALWAYS bullshit. And honestly, I'd tell BSCA to take it anyway.
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May 28, 2014 19:53
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martyrdumb posted:Two weeks notice definitely does not apply when you're dealing with a lovely employer. The last job I quit was a simple email saying "Effectively immediately I resign from my position. Send my stuff here". 10 other employees including 2 of my managers quit in a similar fashion and will give me glowing reviews. So yeah, sometimes you can burn bridges.
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May 28, 2014 20:11
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That's why the video was linked as a suggested method.
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May 28, 2014 20:17
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But letting a prospective employer know that you will give 2 weeks notice is good. I have seen willingness to just jump with no notice take someone out of contention. Congrats Blackswordca.
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May 28, 2014 20:18
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SubjectVerbObject posted:But letting a prospective employer know that you will give 2 weeks notice is good. I have seen willingness to just jump with no notice take someone out of contention. Take 2 weeks off between jobs. Your vacation time likely doesn't rack up until the following year anyways so you might as well take some time for yourself.
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May 28, 2014 20:28
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m.hache posted:The last job I quit was a simple email saying "Effectively immediately I resign from my position. Send my stuff here". I found out that my company takes the "no negative references" trend so seriously that if an employee burns a bridge and grinds it into charcoal dust, they still won't say anything negative. Because of this, it's common practice in the call center, when someone completely snaps, to just get up and quit in the middle of the day, go home and apply for unemployment claiming they were fired. Then they'll approved because even though they shouldn't get it, the company won't bother denying that they quit and weren't fired. (When I leave, I'm still handing in a letter 2 weeks in advance. I also have no interest in committing fraud.)
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May 28, 2014 20:31
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If you can take some time off between jobs do it! Good luck to you. I had an unsolicited call from a recruiter for an I.T. Manager job. It sounds like a tricky situation that I probably don't want to get into but it's nice to get that first call to help build some momentum.
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May 28, 2014 20:39
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Dick Trauma posted:If you can take some time off between jobs do it! Good luck to you. More tricky than having all your management looking for an excuse to fire you?
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May 28, 2014 21:06
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Blackswordca, just hand them a note saying "effective two weeks ago, I resign my position." 99% of the time you shouldn't burn bridges. Burn this one, piss on the ashes, and then burn them again to make sure they're burned. Remember, they wanted you to eat 1/3rd of your expenses.
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May 28, 2014 21:14
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MJP posted:Blackswordca, just hand them a note saying "effective two weeks ago, I resign my position." Hit up everyone you had a good relationship with for an unofficial reference. Then turn in a "I am resigning effective immediately, please have my final paycheck to me in <whatever the minimum time in your state is>. In California it's 72 hours, and not business hours either, so burn your bridges on the Friday before a 3-day weekend if at all possible.
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May 28, 2014 21:34
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mllaneza posted:Hit up everyone you had a good relationship with for an unofficial reference. Then turn in a "I am resigning effective immediately, please have my final paycheck to me in <whatever the minimum time in your state is>. In California it's 72 hours, and not business hours either, so burn your bridges on the Friday before a 3-day weekend if at all possible. While hilarious that probably just makes some poor accountant have to stay late while the jerkoff bosses just go home early.
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May 28, 2014 21:40
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mllaneza posted:Hit up everyone you had a good relationship with for an unofficial reference. Then turn in a "I am resigning effective immediately, please have my final paycheck to me in <whatever the minimum time in your state is>. In California it's 72 hours, and not business hours either, so burn your bridges on the Friday before a 3-day weekend if at all possible. I dont want to mess up my vacation pay.. ill see whats required to keep that and go from there.
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May 28, 2014 21:41
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put in for immediate vacation use, fake a family death. never return from it.
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May 28, 2014 21:48
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Paladine_PSoT posted:put in for immediate vacation use, fake a family death. never return from it.
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blackswordca posted:I dont want to mess up my vacation pay.. ill see whats required to keep that and go from there. In Texas they only have to pay you for 3 days of whatever your total is. Check the laws on that first.
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May 28, 2014 22:21
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So a two week notice was given in. The owner I talked to actually swore pretty loudly and tried to match what I was making to keep me. I didnt accept his offer. I am staying for the two weeks, but I will be getting my vacation paid out so thats an extra 5 weeks of pay there. I start the new job June 16
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May 28, 2014 22:28
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blackswordca posted:So a two week notice was given in. I have never, ever been so happy to read a post on this forum before. 
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May 28, 2014 22:31
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blackswordca posted:The owner I talked to actually swore pretty loudly and tried to match what I was making to keep me. And aint this poo poo just the most satisfying thing you could experience in your situation? Man, I guess he really needed you at that company, guess he should have figured out some way to express that  .Congrats man.
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May 28, 2014 22:34
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blackswordca posted:So a two week notice was given in. CON loving GRATS! Beer will be drank in your honor tonight at my house as well as the rest of the country, I'm sure. edit: Please tell us how you rejected his counteroffer. "Well, I would but <litany of things they have done>"
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May 28, 2014 22:34
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blackswordca posted:So a two week notice was given in.  I'm happy for you! EDIT: The "tricky situation" at the job I was contacted about is that it's: 1. A talent agency. Talent agents are notoriously horrible to work for. We're talking poo-flinging bad. 2. They have had a falling out with their MSP and want to switch to in-house I.T. but only want to start with one person to provide all their support for a 70 person, two location company. 24/7 support! They've been spending over $12K per month for the MSP. It feels like a fire into which I will jump from my frying pan.
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Paladine_PSoT posted:edit: Please tell us how you rejected his counteroffer. "Well, I would but <litany of things they have done>" Yeah definitely gonna need more details on exactly how it went down and exactly what swear words were used.
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May 28, 2014 22:38
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blackswordca posted:So a two week notice was given in.  It's actually happening.
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Dick Trauma posted:
Well, you know they have 144k to work with at least.
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blackswordca posted:So a two week notice was given in.    Good luck with the new one !
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blackswordca posted:I am staying for the two weeks, but I will be getting my vacation paid out so thats an extra 5 weeks of pay there. I start the new job June 16 I'd almost demand to be paid out for the PTO before you leave, but that's me. Congratulations.
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