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letthereberock posted:Even if by some freak occurence someone had lived to be that old (they didn't, but let's just say they did) what would that prove exactly? It's one person, which does nothing to refute the statistics of life expectancy today compared to what it was pre-vaccines. These are anti-vaccers. Assuming vaccines cause autism (they don't), they still save a significantly larger amount of people than they "harm". One person living to be 256 years old is all they need to believe that they have the power within them to be the next Methuselah. One person getting autism from the polio vaccine is enough to make them reel in terror. I just realized that all of the anti-vaccers I know (thankfully not many of them) also have lovely diets and eat lots of processed foods. I guess being mindful of what you put into your body only extends towards actual life saving things and not Ellios pizzas?
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Chorrax posted:Ohhh man my aunt just posted this gem:  Only a personal nuke can prevent tyranny.
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May 28, 2014 17:52
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Chorrax posted:Ohhh man my aunt just posted this gem: Also remember that picture when a Republican speaks out against homosexuals or socialists, or wants to loosen gun control laws like Hitler did. 
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May 28, 2014 18:10
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I got a great one today. I was reading that and thinking, "okay, it's a little cranky but nothing wrong with suggesting people eat more vegetables and less sugar" ... and then I got to the second page and saw colloidal silver, 10,000 IU of vitamin D daily, and of course GMO hysteria ("if you see words or names you cannot pronounce, it is not good for you").
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May 28, 2014 18:19
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Selachian posted:then I got to the second page and saw colloidal silver Doesn't colloidal silver have some serious health risks? I think that's what the crazy LOLbertarian drank to turn himself blue a decade or so back. From what I figured out, the line between blue and blue & dead is pretty thin. Seems like the kind of thing I'd be referring up the chain to try to get this yahoo sanctioned.
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May 28, 2014 18:27
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Chorrax posted:Ohhh man my aunt just posted this gem: Good thing having personal small arms against a well organized and equipped army worked so well during the Warsaw Uprising.
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May 28, 2014 18:29
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rkajdi posted:Doesn't colloidal silver have some serious health risks? I think that's what the crazy LOLbertarian drank to turn himself blue a decade or so back. From what I figured out, the line between blue and blue & dead is pretty thin. You're unlikely to kill yourself drinking colloidal silver, unless you take it by the gallon. Besides argyria (the blue-skin condition), the major risks in taking it are that it can interfere with real medicines, such as antibiotics, and it can cause kidney damage. Also, like many other health supplements, colloidal silver isn't particularly well regulated, so you have no way of knowing what's really in there or whether it's been contaminated. You're right, thought, that anyone who calls themselves a health professional shouldn't be recommending this crap.
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May 28, 2014 19:14
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TheGreyGhost posted:I'd wager 50/50 split between the two if they used a low-annoyance method of sampling. There's people who won't give legitimate survey answers no matter what the stakes, but there are plenty of people who go, "yeah, the president having an affair is awesome. It A. legitimizes my own desires, B. proves he's a go-getter who doesn't stop, or C. proves he's a strong manly man who will work like a man in Washington. People have really dumb reasons for believing things. But there's no way that's only sampling. That makes sense. There were plenty of people who were disappointed in Clinton not for having an affair, but because of how underwhelming Monica Lewinsky was.
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May 28, 2014 19:44
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You go to bed with the intern you have---not the intern you might want or wish to have at a later time.
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May 28, 2014 19:56
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Choadmaster posted:You go to bed with the intern you have---not the intern you might want or wish to have at a later time. You do it not because they are easy but because they are hard.
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May 28, 2014 19:58
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Afraid of Audio posted:You do it not because they are easy but because you are hard.
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May 28, 2014 20:00
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If this happens again, I hope that the focus would be on the misuse of authority aspect, in the sense that any consent she had to being involved with him is tainted by him being her boss, rather than the "ooh, he had the sex with not-wife" issue, which seemed to be the focus of the Republicans at the time. I think that it's a shame that to add insult to injury, she's the one who is never going to be able to live it down.
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May 28, 2014 20:16
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In fairness for Vitamin D, if you live in an area where the sun isn't out as much (say... Washington State), there's a good chance you could have a Vitamin D deficiency. It's also very hard to overdose as your body is pretty good at flushing out vitamin D that you don't need. However, that thing says 5-10k IU is way too much. The most you'll ever need in a day is 2000 if you're middle aged.
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May 28, 2014 20:20
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Dirty Job posted:These are anti-vaccers. Assuming vaccines cause autism (they don't), they still save a significantly larger amount of people than they "harm". One person living to be 256 years old is all they need to believe that they have the power within them to be the next Methuselah. One person getting autism from the polio vaccine is enough to make them reel in terror. The anti-vaccers I know eat organic, gluten free, no GMOs, no processed anything diets. They jump on every "health" bandwagon. They also drink cheap, lovely alcohol and drive SUVs (but they need them). At least they have decided that my opinion is tainted because I work for big pharma (I'm a RN in a small, rural hospital) and have stopped coming to me for validation of their stupidity.
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seiferguy posted:Could be both! 
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This  post is brought to you by the NIH Office of Dietary Supplements:Dirty Job posted:I just realized that all of the anti-vaccers I know (thankfully not many of them) also have lovely diets and eat lots of processed foods. I guess being mindful of what you put into your body only extends towards actual life saving things and not Ellios pizzas? Careful- "Processed foods" is no more an indicator of poor nutrition or negative health outcomes than anything else. By using it as an implied negative term, you're on the edge of committing the same naturalistic fallacy that antivaxxers do. Selachian posted:I was reading that and thinking, "okay, it's a little cranky but nothing wrong with suggesting people eat more vegetables and less sugar" ... and then I got to the second page and saw colloidal silver, 10,000 IU of vitamin D daily, and of course GMO hysteria ("if you see words or names you cannot pronounce, it is not good for you"). They're specifying "natural" sugars on the first page (and mangling the terminology, but that aside)- the distinctions between "natural" and "processed" sugars are also specious, although there are a bunch of idiots at the new york times who would like you to think differently, and coincidentally buy their books. seiferguy posted:In fairness for Vitamin D, if you live in an area where the sun isn't out as much (say... Washington State), there's a good chance you could have a Vitamin D deficiency. It's also very hard to overdose as your body is pretty good at flushing out vitamin D that you don't need. However, that thing says 5-10k IU is way too much. The most you'll ever need in a day is 2000 if you're middle aged. Just as an FYI, the dose is probably going to be adjusted down as the new DRI values come out. Vitamin D research is kinda stunted-it needs more vitamin D! edit: that Vigo is fantastic! Someone should do one of Rasputin from Hellboy.
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rkajdi posted:Doesn't colloidal silver have some serious health risks? I think that's what the crazy LOLbertarian drank to turn himself blue a decade or so back. From what I figured out, the line between blue and blue & dead is pretty thin. It has the potential for serious health risks in the long term. It also accomplishes exactly nothing. There are seriously no actual benefits to using colloidal silver. None. At all. The reason you turn blue is also the reason it has issues. The silver builds up in your system over time and never leaves. This can cause several important organs to fail or have reduced function. It does take a long time and it's unlikely that you'll actually kill yourself using colloidal silver but really, you're just flat out better off not using it at all. A "health professional" suggesting colloidal silver is the peak of quackery, really. It's basically modern snake oil.
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Chorrax posted:Ohhh man my aunt just posted this gem: A reminder that the Nazi written 1938 German Weapons Act was one of the biggest gun de-regulation efforts in history. Cruel and Unusual posted:That makes sense. There were plenty of people who were disappointed in Clinton not for having an affair, but because of how underwhelming Monica Lewinsky was. Remember that the list of presidents who had an affair still includes JFK banging Marilyn Monroe.
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Anyone else been getting the poo poo that 'well, if some women just took one for the team and hosed that Elliot guy, he wouldn't have killed those people! Women are bitches and hold sex hostage!' A local radio host was mouthing off about it, and when people complained he was blaming the victim, he insisted he wasn't and just wanted 'women to know that their most powerful weapon is between their thighs and men will go crazy if they can't have it.'
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Cowslips Warren posted:Anyone else been getting the poo poo that 'well, if some women just took one for the team and hosed that Elliot guy, he wouldn't have killed those people! Women are bitches and hold sex hostage!' How the gently caress is this person still on the air after that......
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May 28, 2014 22:41
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Selachian posted:10,000 IU of vitamin D daily, My mom fell for this poo poo a few years ago at the height of Swine Flu Panic. She's not an unintelligent woman, she just got swept up in this madness. Ended up torpedoing her gallbladder to poo poo, and when she was admitted to the hospital, they put her on suicide watch because they thought she had intentionally OD'd. To this day she's extremely embarrassed by it. 
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May 28, 2014 22:43
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Fulchrum posted:Remember that the list of presidents who had an affair still includes JFK banging Marilyn Monroe. Not only that but presidents not having affairs is the exception. drat near every president was loving somebody on the side, generally while in office too. Humans like to have sex and, generally speaking, we're pretty terrible at long-term monogamy.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Humans like to have sex and, generally speaking, we're pretty terrible at long-term monogamy. Especially when those humans are rich, world-famous, and (among?) the most powerful men in the world. Not to mention that people don't get in to that position without having a lot of personal charisma. People with all that going for them don't have to go out looking for extramarital sex, it will seek them out.
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 Checkmate environazis  Also, the job thing at the end is him referring to the fact that he is a Libertarian who works for the DoD as an auditor.
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Aside from infant mortality, primitive hunter-gatherers live a pretty normal (for a modern person) lifespan. They also generally have more leisure time than we do. Grouping people into dense cities and giving most of them relatively sedentary lifestyles is great for efficiency and tech progress but not particularly conducive to preventing disease. That said, I likes me some internets and I have no interest in being a caveman. And the fact that modern existence requires some amount of pollution is no reason to make no attempt whatsoever to minimize the effect.
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Cowslips Warren posted:Anyone else been getting the poo poo that 'well, if some women just took one for the team and hosed that Elliot guy, he wouldn't have killed those people! Women are bitches and hold sex hostage!' Goddamit Tom Leykis...the act is getting stale.
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May 29, 2014 02:41
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De Nomolos posted:Goddamit Tom Leykis...the act is getting stale. I am disappointed with my past self, I used to listen to him.
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Cowslips Warren posted:Anyone else been getting the poo poo that 'well, if some women just took one for the team and hosed that Elliot guy, he wouldn't have killed those people! Women are bitches and hold sex hostage!' If only those women would have used their thighs to shoot back instead of cowering.
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seiferguy posted:In fairness for Vitamin D, if you live in an area where the sun isn't out as much (say... Washington State), there's a good chance you could have a Vitamin D deficiency. It's also very hard to overdose as your body is pretty good at flushing out vitamin D that you don't need. However, that thing says 5-10k IU is way too much. The most you'll ever need in a day is 2000 if you're middle aged. I live in Phoenix. We get plenty of sunshine. I posted a thread about my doctor in the Goon Doctor subforum and the general consensus is that I should file a complaint. The thing that really ticks me off about this I that I'm always telling people "don't trust email forwards for medical advice, that website selling herbs is just a scam. Contact your primary care medical provider instead, they have proper training and are obligated to put your health first."
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I live in Phoenix. We get plenty of sunshine. You should absolutely file a complaint. You avoided following this person's advice. They'll kill someone else with this- if they haven't already.
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Cowslips Warren posted:Anyone else been getting the poo poo that 'well, if some women just took one for the team and hosed that Elliot guy, he wouldn't have killed those people! Women are bitches and hold sex hostage!' Worst is that there are probably plenty of women who would have porked that kid based on his looks and car alone, but he had crawled up his rear end so loving far that anything less than a Beyonce wasn't good enough for him. If he's anything like any of the other spergged out PUA nozzles that I know he was blowing off reasonable women who would have given him a chance for bullshit reasons like "she has Tom Cruise teeth".
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Discendo Vox posted:You should absolutely file a complaint. You avoided following this person's advice. They'll kill someone else with this- if they haven't already. I'm definitely going to file a complaint. I welcome any advice on how to make sure my complaint goes as far as possible. I posted this in another thread but: Dr. Arbitrary posted:This is for me, to motivate myself to do the right thing. Edit: 
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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:Worst is that there are probably plenty of women who would have porked that kid based on his looks and car alone, but he had crawled up his rear end so loving far that anything less than a Beyonce wasn't good enough for him. His issue (aside from the obvious ones) was that he wouldn't talk to women or make the effort to pick them up, he expected them to come to him, falling over themselves for the honor and privilege of sleeping with him, and anything less than that was taken as a huge insult. Every one of his stories about trying to get laid boils down to "I sat in a Starbucks/on a bridge/at a party staring at women for a few hours, and not one of them came over and immediately started having sex with me; kill all women."
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Ratspeaker posted:His issue (aside from the obvious ones) was that he wouldn't talk to women or make the effort to pick them up, he expected them to come to him, falling over themselves for the honor and privilege of sleeping with him, and anything less than that was taken as a huge insult. Every one of his stories about trying to get laid boils down to "I sat in a Starbucks/on a bridge/at a party staring at women for a few hours, and not one of them came over and immediately started having sex with me; kill all women." Whaaat?! I would've thought he'd at least subscribe to the vending machine theory of romance. He really must've been narcissistic if he thought that being good-looking should really be enough to make a woman want to have sex with him. (It's not like he could've demonstrated his other, no-doubt-excellent qualities by just sitting around doing nothing.)
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Pththya-lyi posted:Whaaat?! I would've thought he'd at least subscribe to the vending machine theory of romance. He really must've been narcissistic if he thought that being good-looking should really be enough to make a woman want to have sex with him. (It's not like he could've demonstrated his other, no-doubt-excellent qualities by just sitting around doing nothing.) The bolded actually sounds more crazy that Elliot's "WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE LADIES WEREN'T RUSHING OVER TO GRAB MY JUNK  " insanity.
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Gen. Ripper posted:The bolded actually sounds more crazy that Elliot's "WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE LADIES WEREN'T RUSHING OVER TO GRAB MY JUNK It's not super-crazy. The idea is that if you put in enough time and effort, the girl you want is going to fall for you. That's how it works in most of the movies, TV shows, books, comics, video games, and songs you've ever been exposed to. If a girl doesn't give you the loving you want, she's stealing your efforts, just as how a vending machine that won't vend is stealing your money.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I'm definitely going to file a complaint. I've dug into things, and the short answer is you (and Arizonans, and it looks like anyone who recieves care from PAs) are screwed. I was wondering why I hadn't heard of them- they're way worse accrredited, monitored, and educated than RNs or MDs(which is saying something). Here's why you're screwed, from the website of the Arizona Regulatory Board of Physician Assistants: Bad News posted:Who serves on the Regulatory Board of Physician Assistants? edit: disregard this partly- in my sleep-deprived state this seemed worse than it is. The use of the term "alleopathic", and the DO requirement is still really worrisome. Tread lightly. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 07:01 on May 29, 2014 |
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Pththya-lyi posted:It's not super-crazy. The idea is that if you put in enough time and effort, the girl you want is going to fall for you. That's how it works in most of the movies, TV shows, books, comics, video games, and songs you've ever been exposed to. If a girl doesn't give you the loving you want, she's stealing your efforts, just as how a vending machine that won't vend is stealing your money. Yeah, except he seemed to expect to not have to do anything but be there and have a bmw. I mean he didn't even think he had to put any time and effort at all into anything. That's even weirder than PUAs.
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Pththya-lyi posted:It's not super-crazy. The idea is that if you put in enough time and effort, the girl you want is going to fall for you. That's how it works in most of the movies, TV shows, books, comics, video games, and songs you've ever been exposed to. If a girl doesn't give you the loving you want, she's stealing your efforts, just as how a vending machine that won't vend is stealing your money. Yeah but a vending machine is there to put money in and have goods fall out, pretty sure women are just people. Your analogy sounds like the reasoning nice guys use to say women should gently caress them on the spot because they held the door open for them.
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Discendo Vox posted:edit: Jesus, in AZ it looks like they can get permission to prescribe Schedule II and III substances, too. This is a nightmare-this sort of pattern of regulation is probably killing or injuring hundreds of people. I'm gonna see if I can get something published on it in a bioethics journal. Naturopaths are allowed to prescribe morphine. yay.
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