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wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten

Ensign Expendable posted:

It was actually Rommel's taste for gold.



What's that from?

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

wdarkk posted:

What's that from?

I'd assume Danger 5 as its where all other hilarious nazi comedy gifs come from.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Raskolnikov38 posted:

I'd assume Danger 5 as its where all other hilarious nazi comedy gifs come from.

Yep, Danger 5. The new season should be coming out soon, incidentally. I'm so excited. :allears:

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

HEY GAL posted:

Mostly #1, but when she says the war had no positive effects and was essentially meaningless, that's 100% 1939 talking, and we don't really think that any more.
Let me expand. When early 20th century British people talk about the Thirty Years' War, what they are really talking about, subconsciously, is World War 1. I've seen this a lot.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
Two of my great interests, Military History and Retsupurae, have intersected:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnJXSWfT04M

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

Two of my great interests, Military History and Retsupurae, have intersected:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnJXSWfT04M



I think this quote from the linked Cracked article says it best.

quote:

Here is how the future will remember your sacrifice. You were probably expecting people to raise money for a monument or something. But no -- three generations from now, more young people will donate their paychecks to Operation History-Tits than to any World War II veterans' fund. This is your war memorial. You're all Nazi schoolgirls, and none of you are wearing pants."

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME
I'm really glad nobody tries to sexualize my line of work, since it would be basically rape or snuff porn.

Although, I found a sculpture once, from the time, about tabletop size and carved in white stone, of a trooper leading a naked woman away with her hands behind her back. He's got a good grip on her too, although she's trying to get away. Nobody knows what it was for, but someone commissioned it, on purpose. If I weren't so far away from my books I'd scan the picture for you guys.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

HEY GAL posted:

I'm really glad nobody tries to sexualize my line of work, since it would be basically rape or snuff porn.

Although, I found a sculpture once, from the time, about tabletop size and carved in white stone, of a trooper leading a naked woman away with her hands behind her back. He's got a good grip on her too, although she's trying to get away. Nobody knows what it was for, but someone commissioned it, on purpose. If I weren't so far away from my books I'd scan the picture for you guys.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flesh_%26_Blood_%28film%29 ?

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

God, the 70s and 80s were weird.

Iowa Snow King
Jan 5, 2008
So Patton decides to stop the Holocaust, dagnabbit

Monocled Falcon
Oct 30, 2011
I'm watching the history channel and it's just a vague summary of what Hitler, Stalin, Roosevelt, Mussolini Churchill and Patton were doing. Hell, the reason the western front seems to be covered in any more detail is because they talk about Patton. There's no Rommel, D-day is only talked because Patton was involved.

Just wow, the history channel is now so bad just writing shows that would barely get a D in High School wasn't bad enough and they decided to go back to revive Great Man Theory and then write shows that would get a D in a High School in the 1800s.

Frostwerks
Sep 24, 2007

by Lowtax

Monocled Falcon posted:

I'm watching the history channel and it's just a vague summary of what Hitler, Stalin, Roosevelt, Mussolini Churchill and Patton were doing. Hell, the reason the western front seems to be covered in any more detail is because they talk about Patton. There's no Rommel, D-day is only talked because Patton was involved.

Just wow, the history channel is now so bad just writing shows that would barely get a D in High School wasn't bad enough and they decided to go back to revive Great Man Theory and then write shows that would get a D in a High School in the 1800s.

To be perfectly fair if you were writing a history paper on world war 2 in the 1800s, it kinda seems like a D is a generous grade.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Frostwerks posted:

To be perfectly fair if you were writing a history paper on world war 2 in the 1800s, it kinda seems like a D is a generous grade.

"What the gently caress is this kid writing about an army conquering Europe using water tanks for? And flying machines dropping explosives? And Communists, taking over Russia? Is he on opium?"

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Yeah i didn't watch tonight because gently caress that I didn't want to deal with it.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Monocled Falcon posted:

I'm watching the history channel and it's just a vague summary of what Hitler, Stalin, Roosevelt, Mussolini Churchill and Patton were doing. Hell, the reason the western front seems to be covered in any more detail is because they talk about Patton. There's no Rommel, D-day is only talked because Patton was involved.
By "involved" you mean "wasn't at all really" right?

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.
Do they really get McChrystal to talk about MacArthur? 'Cause that is some poo poo I've GOT to see.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

Two of my great interests, Military History and Retsupurae, have intersected:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnJXSWfT04M

Oh god what

Why

"Hentai for Stormfront" is an excellent description. Also the poor girls, they are not suited for working in a tank at all.

Edit: oh my god, it's literally Hitler.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.
Isn't history channel owned by a subsidiary of Fox now. it explains why the entire World Wars doc is just great man theory bullshit mixed with weird conservative memes. I tried watching the first part and it was just dumb.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Ensign Expendable posted:

Oh god what

Why

"Hentai for Stormfront" is an excellent description. Also the poor girls, they are not suited for working in a tank at all.

Edit: oh my god, it's literally Hitler.

No no, you see she's actually the "Li'l Fuhrer" :eng99:

Monocled Falcon
Oct 30, 2011

Arquinsiel posted:

By "involved" you mean "wasn't at all really" right?

Oh no, I mean that according to the history channel , the whole lynch pin to the success of Normandy was Roosevelt placing Patton in charge of a decoy army. It was the only reason Hitler didn't just send in his reserves to crush the allies.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Monocled Falcon posted:

Oh no, I mean that according to the history channel , the whole lynch pin to the success of Normandy was Roosevelt placing Patton in charge of a decoy army. It was the only reason Hitler didn't just send in his reserves to crush the allies.
Well it helped, I guess, but only in that Hitler bought into the same bullshit that the History channel has.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Arquinsiel posted:

Well it helped, I guess, but only in that Hitler bought into the same bullshit that the History channel has.

So the history channel has nearly completed its metamorphoses into Hitler is what you're saying.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

So do they give any attention to Eisenhower at all?

Dude developed a shitton of US logistics and armor doctrine during WWI, wrote an entire book on the Western European theater in WWI, then was supreme allied commander in WWII despite having zero actual wartime experience. Great Men fallacy aside, it's kind of hosed up if he didn't have equal footing with the rest of allied command.

dublish
Oct 31, 2011


pengun101 posted:

Isn't history channel owned by a subsidiary of Fox now. it explains why the entire World Wars doc is just great man theory bullshit mixed with weird conservative memes. I tried watching the first part and it was just dumb.

It's owned by A+E Networks, a 50-50 joint venture owned by the Hearst Corporation and Disney/ABC.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

dublish posted:

Hearst Corporation

That explains a lot about this shitshow.

Monocled Falcon
Oct 30, 2011

FAUXTON posted:

So do they give any attention to Eisenhower at all?

Dude developed a shitton of US logistics and armor doctrine during WWI, wrote an entire book on the Western European theater in WWI, then was supreme allied commander in WWII despite having zero actual wartime experience. Great Men fallacy aside, it's kind of hosed up if he didn't have equal footing with the rest of allied command.

Ah, you still haven't grasped it yet. There was no "allied command", just Roosevelt, Churchill and Patton. That's the entire western front.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Raskolnikov38 posted:

So the history channel has nearly completed its metamorphoses into Hitler is what you're saying.
I guess it has.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Monocled Falcon posted:

Ah, you still haven't grasped it yet. There was no "allied command", just Roosevelt, Churchill and Patton. That's the entire western front.

:cripes: Patton was a loving dangerous maniac so no wonder he got face time.

Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.
Grimey Drawer

Monocled Falcon posted:

Ah, you still haven't grasped it yet. There was no "allied command", just Roosevelt, Churchill and Patton. That's the entire western front.

Well, duh. Don't you remember that Churchill personally lead the British force at Utah Beach while Roosevelt wheeled his way around the Pacific and Patton did everything else?

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Don Gato posted:

Well, duh. Don't you remember that Churchill personally lead the British force at Utah Beach while Roosevelt wheeled his way around the Pacific and Patton did everything else?

Utah was an American beach and technically Roosevelt did personally lead US troops there.
Just not Franklin Roosevelt.

cosmosisjones
Oct 10, 2012

Just finished Guns of August today and with hindsight being what it is I just wanted to reach back and shake the poo poo out of some of them. Any other good books on WW1?

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

cosmosisjones posted:

Just finished Guns of August today and with hindsight being what it is I just wanted to reach back and shake the poo poo out of some of them. Any other good books on WW1?
I think A History of the World War by Francis A March is a very interesting read. It was published just after the end of the war in 1919 and you can nab the ebook from Project Gutenberg. I got a beat up old copy as a gift and it's a great look into the immediate post-war attitude of America.

Edit: If you can find a physical copy for a reasonable price grab it. The photographs and maps are quite nice.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

Heroes of the Storm
Goon Tournament Champion
Speaking of History channel docs about WW2- I recently watched "Third Reich - The Rise" and "World War 2 From Space". The Third Reich one especially seemed fairly good as it covered Hitler's rise through the political ranks, complete with information about his opposition and the world affairs that allowed the German citizens to warm up to him (It even features footage from Triumph of the Will). WW2 From Space is very US centric but still does a decent job at hitting major points in a 1 hour long show after the US entered the war, and takes a lot of pains to emphasize the Soviets. Are these actually as bad as "The World Wars" and I just didn't realize it?

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

cosmosisjones posted:

Just finished Guns of August today and with hindsight being what it is I just wanted to reach back and shake the poo poo out of some of them. Any other good books on WW1?

I just finished Castles of Steel, and found it a very good account of the naval war.

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

Ensign Expendable posted:

Also the poor girls, they are not suited for working in a tank at all.
I like you. :)

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Utah was an American beach and technically Roosevelt did personally lead US troops there.
Just not Franklin Roosevelt.

Also Churchill technically did storm ashore Normandy with a broadsword and a bow and arrow.
Just not Winston Churchill.

cosmosisjones posted:

Just finished Guns of August today and with hindsight being what it is I just wanted to reach back and shake the poo poo out of some of them. Any other good books on WW1?

Seconding Castles of Steel for an overview of the naval war.

GJ Meyer's A World Undone is an excellent work on the entire war that has enough detail everywhere (except perhaps the German East Africa campaign, but eh) to really give you an overall understanding

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
Anyone know how the current Expeditionary Strike Groups are organized into Amphibious squadrons in the united states navy?

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

gradenko_2000 posted:

Also Churchill technically did storm ashore Normandy with a broadsword and a bow and arrow.
Just not Winston Churchill.
While Hitler served in the US Navy.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene


drat, dude's name was Bill Hitler. Sounds like an SNL skit.

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HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME
Does anyone have a link to a lexicon of early modern/medieval types of fabric? I'm reading about a fabric shipment theft and when they itemize what went missing I'd like to see exactly what kind of fabric it was, but the names are unfamiliar to me and the spelling's weird anyway.

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