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Rirse
May 7, 2006

by R. Guyovich

Skwirl posted:

Also, Nick Fury is asking for Strange when they capture the mindless one, when Strange is off in some other dimension, although that could just be Fury playing his cats close to his chest.

My theory is that since the loving Orb is a major player in this, the shadowy organizer of these other teams is Dirk Anger.

You know they could actually fit him in this. His company had access to the Mindless One as well. Plus the story already pulling characters who haven't been seen in years as villains.

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Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

Skwirl posted:

Wait, I just remembered, doesn't Dirk Anger have a comically oversized gun that would use bullets of whatever caliber those giant green slugs are?

In more serious matters, strictly speaking they didn't recover a bullet from the Watcher's body, just some fragments.

Dirk Anger has many comically oversized guns, I'm sure.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Rirse posted:

You know they could actually fit him in this. His company had access to the Mindless One as well. Plus the story already pulling characters who haven't been seen in years as villains.


Cabbit posted:

Dirk Anger has many comically oversized guns, I'm sure.

I posted this in the image request thread already, but I figure I'll say it here, Can I get a Dirk Anger picture avatar sized?

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer
I just realized something that really bothered me about this story is that Emma has her telepathy back when that's something she's not supposed to have post-AvX. DOPPELGANGER, SKRULL, or just Jason Aaron not bothering to keep up with X-titles? YOU DECIDE. (its the last one but it still just irks me)

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
Wouldn't a skrull be a doppelganger?

Senor Candle
Nov 5, 2008

TwoPair posted:

I just realized something that really bothered me about this story is that Emma has her telepathy back when that's something she's not supposed to have post-AvX. DOPPELGANGER, SKRULL, or just Jason Aaron not bothering to keep up with X-titles? YOU DECIDE. (its the last one but it still just irks me)

She never lost her telepathy, just like every other character affected by it they just can't control their powers.

d00gZ
Oct 12, 2002

Original Sin Murderer
Wild Guess #627
Edward Snowden

"My sole motive is to inform the public as to that which is done in their name and that which is done against them."

TwoPair posted:

I just realized something that really bothered me about this story is that Emma has her telepathy back when that's something she's not supposed to have post-AvX. DOPPELGANGER, SKRULL, or just Jason Aaron not bothering to keep up with X-titles? YOU DECIDE. (its the last one but it still just irks me)

Yes, Jason Aaron has not been keeping up with the X-Titles, especially the "Phoenix Five lost control of their powers" subplot, which started a year before he left two major X-titles and was the main plotter of a crossover directly involving his titles and the title with that character, not to mention being one of the main plotters of the original story which led to her being in this condition.

SirDan3k
Jan 6, 2001

Trust me, you are taking this a lot more seriously then I am.

Senor Candle posted:

She never lost her telepathy, just like every other character affected by it they just can't control their powers.

Wasn't her first issue that she couldn't stop reading everybody's mind and couldn't pick a single mind out of the chaos?

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

d00gZ posted:

Yes, Jason Aaron has not been keeping up with the X-Titles, especially the "Phoenix Five lost control of their powers" subplot, which started a year before he left two major X-titles and was the main plotter of a crossover directly involving his titles and the title with that character, not to mention being one of the main plotters of the original story which led to her being in this condition.

Oh yeeahhhh. Egg on my face then.

Senor Candle
Nov 5, 2008

SirDan3k posted:

Wasn't her first issue that she couldn't stop reading everybody's mind and couldn't pick a single mind out of the chaos?

It keeps changing from her not being able to control if she was reading people's thoughts or projecting hers. It is the same thing with Cyclops and Magneto.

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

TwoPair posted:

I just realized something that really bothered me about this story is that Emma has her telepathy back when that's something she's not supposed to have post-AvX. DOPPELGANGER, SKRULL, or just Jason Aaron not bothering to keep up with X-titles? YOU DECIDE. (its the last one but it still just irks me)

Maybe the eye popping released knowledge of how her powers work? That'd be convenient, and it would explain the reawakening of onslaught that the next crossover will use.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Sithsaber posted:

Maybe the eye popping released knowledge of how her powers work? That'd be convenient, and it would explain the reawakening of onslaught that the next crossover will use.

Unslaught was reawakened in the first arc of uncanny avengers

Sithsaber
Apr 8, 2014

by Ion Helmet

bobkatt013 posted:

Unslaught was reawakened in the first arc of uncanny avengers

I should have said "further"reawakening of Onslaught.

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames
Wait, Onslaught is back? Isn't he literally Professor X and Magneto smashed together? How is that even possible?

RevKrule
Jul 9, 2001

Thrilling the forums since 2001

OldTennisCourt posted:

Wait, Onslaught is back? Isn't he literally Professor X and Magneto smashed together? How is that even possible?

I think it's supposed to be the new Red Skull who has a little bit of the ol' Professor in him (possibly bringing out the Onslaught in him).

We Got Us A Bread
Jul 23, 2007

RevKrule posted:

I think it's supposed to be the new Red Skull who has a little bit of the ol' Professor in him (possibly bringing out the Onslaught in him).

Nah, it's pretty straightforward: New Red Skull has Chuck's brain grafted to his. They've always implied that Professor X has bits/all of Onslaught locked away in his head. New Skull doesn't have the control Professor X had, so..Redslaught? Onskull?

Four Score
Feb 27, 2014

by zen death robot
Lipstick Apathy
That moment Fury had with his flying car was amazing, and reminded me why I read comic books.

Coincidentally, while waiting for the MTG Game Day tournament, I picked up the latest issue of Nova, having never read the title before, and thought it was a really sweet, touching story until I got to the end, and he was referring to his friend on the Moon. My heart crept up into my throat, and then I saw the last panel. :qq:

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

First Bass posted:

That moment Fury had with his flying car was amazing, and reminded me why I read comic books.

Coincidentally, while waiting for the MTG Game Day tournament, I picked up the latest issue of Nova, having never read the title before, and thought it was a really sweet, touching story until I got to the end, and he was referring to his friend on the Moon. My heart crept up into my throat, and then I saw the last panel. :qq:

If you liked that issue, then you really should track down Original Sin #0. The story is pretty much just Nova and the Watcher, but even without being familiar with any of the back story you should be able to understand the dynamics of their relationship pretty well.

Senor Candle
Nov 5, 2008
If you liked that issue, pick up the rest of the current Nova series. It's been solid all the way through.

Bitchin Kitchen
Jun 2, 2006
Capital!
I'm really enjoying Original Sin so far, I like how drat goofy it is, and it's always great to see some Morrison characters doing stuff.

It's hyped and the covers are so serious and it's got Deodato but at the same time it's really silly.

I enjoy that blend a lot.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost
So my question is we see some dude the Orb is helping a dude who looks like the Thing. We know there's a dude who is dressed in the original Iron Man armor. These are all some kind of reflections of our heroes?

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Gatts posted:

So my question is we see some dude the Orb is helping a dude who looks like the Thing. We know there's a dude who is dressed in the original Iron Man armor. These are all some kind of reflections of our heroes?

Read Marvel Boy

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Gatts posted:

So my question is we see some dude the Orb is helping a dude who looks like the Thing. We know there's a dude who is dressed in the original Iron Man armor. These are all some kind of reflections of our heroes?

That's the same person. Dr. Midas.

Waterhaul
Nov 5, 2005


it was a nice post,
you shouldn't have signed it.



Gatts posted:

So my question is we see some dude the Orb is helping a dude who looks like the Thing. We know there's a dude who is dressed in the original Iron Man armor. These are all some kind of reflections of our heroes?

There Morrison characters so yes. Midas goes from a "golden age" Iron Man to a combination of the Fantastic Four.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
I realized I was confusing people because I was saying Dr Mobius, not Dr Midas.

Also, big green bullets are kryptonite made for killing Superman. The killer is Lex Luther.

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames
So Deadpool just confirmed that the eye exploded and just gave everyone in the area Watcher's memories. Also Avengers are going even further in time.

KaosMachina
Oct 9, 2012

There's nothing special about me.
And Mighty Avengers tackled the question of "So what happened to the Watcher's wife and unborn child".
And the coloring's good enough to make up for the Land art, too!

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004

KaosMachina posted:

And Mighty Avengers tackled the question of "So what happened to the Watcher's wife and unborn child".
And the coloring's good enough to make up for the Land art, too!

Land art is fine when he isn't drawing women.

Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 14:51 on May 29, 2014

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
Land's art is consistently terrible and manages to be stale, static and without any redeeming factors besides 'there's lines, I guess' regardless of his subject. That he traces pornstars and other artist's work pretty much the only interesting thing about his current output.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Thanks for the stock Land speech, but he did alright on this latest issue. The Were Chickens, and the scene on the moon were much better than his usual output.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
Thanks for the stock apologia.

radlum
May 13, 2013
It is not as bad as when he was on Uncanny X-Men with Fraction; maybe he realizes he is a punchline or maybe it's the coloring, anyway, I enjoyed this issue of Mighty Avengers, the were chickens are amazing.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Might be that he's using better stock photos for Blue Marvel, and that half the characters in this issue didn't look human.

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


Can someone summerize what is happening with the Watcher's family? I'm not going to pick up that issue regardless of Land's art, but I'm curious.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

IUG posted:

Can someone summerize what is happening with the Watcher's family? I'm not going to pick up that issue regardless of Land's art, but I'm curious.

Blue Marvel is the Watcher's kid's godfather and blasting him with radiation because that's how you become a grown up Watcher.

Also Ulana isn't that sad about Uatu's death because Watchers don't experience grief the same way humans do.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Was the Deadpool tie in any good?

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

twistedmentat posted:

Was the Deadpool tie in any good?

If you like the new Deadpool series, yes. If you're just looking for a tie in to Original Sin, not really because it barely ties in.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer
If you like decent art, god no.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

You know what struck me about Original Sin so far, about why it's good?

Because the Tie-In makes sense.

Like Tie In's to events are a tough thing to balance normally, particularly so when the main story is a mystery. You can't have the Tie In's further the mystery because there's a good chance that one of the writers will just cack-handily spoil the mystery, so normally they just aren't related to the story at all. (See the Identity Crisis tie ins where the Teen Titans decide to track down Lex Luthor's armour.)

But OS figured out a way to have organic tie ins by focusing on the overall theme of long buried secrets coming to light. But the reason it's working for me is the secrets all feel like mysteries their books were going to deal with at some point (Cap's mind wipe, what happened to Sam's dad in Nova, where does Angela come from) or they are exploring themes that the books wanted to go with anyway (Tony re-examining his past, Bruce Banner's jealousy/feelings of inadequacy towards Tony, Dr. Bashire friendship with the Watcher,)

So far, I'm really enjoying this event and I think the Tie In's are good.

Plus I loved the speech that Ulana gave about how Utah was damned for doing too much and for doing too little. (and including Scott Lang was a nice dig too.)

Oh one minor thing that I don't think anyone will bring up. In a Quasar story years ago, Watchers all started dropping dead from this mystery disease. It later turned out that the virus wasn't biological, it was a theory based disease. (Essentially the Watchers started realizing that the act of Watching changes an event. So by Watching they were interfering. As a result Watchers entered into a paradox loop and started killing themselves.)

Quasar then made the argument that Watchers dying necessitated other beings intervening so that too was interfering. Since the Watchers were damned if they do and damned if they don't, they may as well Watch since there will always be SOME level of interference.

At which point one of the dead Watchers stands up and basically says "the human raises a good point." and then the other Watchers just come back to life. Because for Cosmic beings like them, dead is more of a State of Mind then a permanent thing.
I can't see the story ending like this, but it would be funny.

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irlZaphod
Mar 26, 2004

Kiss the Joycon to Kiss Zelda

After previously insisting that I didn't give a poo poo about this event, I think I'll need to pick it up because of all the praise it's getting. :argh:

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