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Excalibur in general was amazing. Remember the one where they were in the timeline where the Nazis won WWII, and the members of Excalibur were all Nazis, and Kitty Pryde was...oh wait.
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I think Captain Britain is one of my favourite tertiary X-Men characters, partly because I love the Alan Moore stories, and partly because I often imagine him as the superhero version of Jacob Rees-Mogg.
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May 29, 2014 18:20
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Spiderdrake posted:Who is the blue lass?
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May 29, 2014 18:32
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laertes22 posted:Excalibur in general was amazing. Remember the one where they were in the timeline where the Nazis won WWII, and the members of Excalibur were all Nazis, and Kitty Pryde was...oh wait. I like the one where they find a world which is completely controlled by two guys sitting at computers constantly trying to write stories that top the other's; one of them is Claremont and the other is Byrne and they're both surrounded by all their favourite fetish characters. Apparently a commentary on how Claremont had done the previous year's big crossover event (Inferno) while Byrne had done that year's event (Acts of Vengeance).
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May 29, 2014 18:46
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So, why was Rachael Grey always drawn to look like a stereotypical lesbian in the 80s and 90s?
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May 29, 2014 18:55
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twistedmentat posted:So, why was Rachael Grey always drawn to look like a stereotypical lesbian in the 80s and 90s?
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May 29, 2014 19:02
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twistedmentat posted:So, why was Rachael Grey always drawn to look like a stereotypical lesbian in the 80s and 90s? You are aware that she was created by and written by Chris Claremont?
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May 29, 2014 19:05
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twistedmentat posted:So, why was Rachael Grey always drawn to look like a stereotypical lesbian in the 80s and 90s? She came from a dystopian future. A way to show dystopian is to have the women all look really butch. Lesbians are stereotyped as all being butch. There ya go.
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May 29, 2014 19:18
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bobkatt013 posted:You are aware that she was created by and written by Chris Claremont? I would think if that was the case, she'd be wearing something akin to Jean's Black Queen outfit. Though if I remember her flash backs to the future as a hunter she was pretty much wearing a gimpsuit.
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May 29, 2014 19:24
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twistedmentat posted:I would think if that was the case, she'd be wearing something akin to Jean's Black Queen outfit. Though if I remember her flash backs to the future as a hunter she was pretty much wearing a gimpsuit. Most of the time in the 80s she is wearing that gimpsuit. Good old Claremont.
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May 29, 2014 19:26
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Excalibur had the best covers
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May 29, 2014 19:34
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irlZaphod posted:Excalibur had the best covers 
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May 29, 2014 19:35
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 In this issue: Galactus destroys an alternate Earth because he decides it is too silly to be allowed to exist.
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May 29, 2014 19:43
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If I could only take one box of comics to a desert island it would mostly be full of Excalibur.
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May 29, 2014 22:37
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So Excalibur did what Exiles was about years before? You got me; is the series collected as Essentials or just TPB?
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May 29, 2014 22:52
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radlum posted:So Excalibur did what Exiles was about years before? You got me; is the series collected as Essentials or just TPB? There is a series of Excalibur Classic tbps, no Essential volumes for it though.
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May 29, 2014 23:39
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Marvel really needs to get off their butts and make some Excalibur and New Mutants omnibuses.
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May 30, 2014 00:05
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Codependent Poster posted:Marvel really needs to get off their butts and make some Excalibur and New Mutants omnibuses. At the rate they are going, all of New Mutants will be collected in Omnibuses with other series. X-factor Vol. 1 too.
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May 30, 2014 00:08
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irlZaphod posted:Sort of. The book was a mix of X-Men-style stories with a heavy dose of Marvel UK's Captain Britain, which is where the multiverse elements came from. Claremont created Captain Britain, but the stories Davis did Alan Moore and Jamie Delano after he stopped writing him are apparently his favourite things ever and he went out of his way to integrate a lot of that into the mainstream Marvel continuity (since I think it was clear at the time whether Marvel UK material was "official" or not). According to this article (Ctrl+F "Alan Moore"), "Mutant Massacre" and "Fall of the Mutants" were going to use bits of Moore and Davis's "Jaspers' Warp" storyline, and I've read elsewhere that it was going to be a big crossover (with the effects of Jaspers' reality warp showing up in other Marvel titles) and Marvel's answer to COIE. This is why Jaspers appears at Magneto's trial in UXM #200 (despite having been killed at the end of Moore's run), then just sort of disappears after that. CharlestheHammer posted:At the rate they are going, all of New Mutants will be collected in Omnibuses with other series. I think a fair amount of that is pretty well-collected thanks to the crossover collections, though it goes without saying there's quite a few gaps.
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May 30, 2014 00:27
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irlZaphod posted:but then Davis returns about 10 issues later as writer/artist, and picks up dangling threads from his and Claremont's run on it.
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May 30, 2014 03:39
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redbackground posted:I've said it before, but the Alan Davis run on Exalibur is one of the most beautiful runs of comics, period. Alan Davis will be my favorite artist until the end of time. He has an artistic skill that few artists have ever come close to grasping. I've never seen anyone utilize negative space the way he has. And his ability to draw larger than life, believable heroes is unmatched. Plus there's this 
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May 30, 2014 07:16
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bobkatt013 posted:Most of the time in the 80s she is wearing that gimpsuit. Good old Claremont. You know, I thought she wore like an 80s workout outfit, but that was Rogue. Yea, she totally wore the gimpsuit going back and looking at those issues.
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May 30, 2014 07:23
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Rhyno posted:Alan Davis will be my favorite artist until the end of time. He has an artistic skill that few artists have ever come close to grasping. I've never seen anyone utilize negative space the way he has. And his ability to draw larger than life, believable heroes is unmatched. The first Avengers comics I ever read were the Busiek/Davis issues where Diablo turns the population of a Greek village into Hulks. I have since read many great Avengers stories by many great artists, but there's still few to equal that one. I also like that he draws happy characters who smile a lot:  He's one of the very few artists who can draw a good smiling Batman: 
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May 30, 2014 10:26
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Metal Loaf posted:The first Avengers comics I ever read were the Busiek/Davis issues where Diablo turns the population of a Greek village into Hulks. I have since read many great Avengers stories by many great artists, but there's still few to equal that one. You should check out both JLA the Nail minis and Superboy's Legion. Few artists can juggle large casts as well as he can.
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May 30, 2014 15:24
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I've read The Nail (Evil Jimmy Olsen as the Eradicator! Amish Superman! Splash pages galore! Flash vibrates AMAZO's brain out his head! Full-on Silver Age stuff; it's great) but I've not read Superboy's Legion. I liked ClanDestine a lot. I must check out the crossover annuals that came out a couple of years ago.
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May 30, 2014 16:13
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laertes22 posted:Excalibur in general was amazing. Remember the one where they were in the timeline where the Nazis won WWII, and the members of Excalibur were all Nazis, and Kitty Pryde was...oh wait. That was such a hosed up timeline and Excalibur was not going to put up with that bullshit.
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May 30, 2014 16:29
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Alan Davis is okay but I actually don't like the way he draws faces. It's always super-distracting for me. Also ClanDestine is terrible. Excalibur still ruled, though.
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May 30, 2014 17:03
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CharlestheHammer posted:She came from a dystopian future. I kind of like that she's always bad a bit of a butch look though which sets her apart from most other female heroes. That period during the Claremont/Davis Uncanny run from like ten years back where she was running around in short skirts and looking "sexy" was lame.
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May 30, 2014 20:33
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Rirse posted:Since the Age of Apocalypse is on sale right now at Comixology for a dollar per issue, I am wondering which issues are worth grabbing from it. So far it looking like Alpha & Omega along with Astonishing X-Men are the main parts of it, but any of the side stuff like X-Calibur, Gambit, X-Man, etc are worth grabbing? X-man and X-calibre are my faves but to get the full story, you really gotta get em all. Its 90s as gently caress but the story holds well.
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May 30, 2014 20:51
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Man, AoA was really painful as a kid with ten buck a week allowance. I was skipping lunch to buy comics and I still only was able to get one or two issues of the side stuff.
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Rick posted:Man, AoA was really painful as a kid with ten buck a week allowance. I was skipping lunch to buy comics and I still only was able to get one or two issues of the side stuff. It's definitely not the only reason, but the fact that kids can't afford to buy their own comics is a huge factor in kids not buying comics. I got into Spider-Man when it had as many titles as X-men and if it weren't for fact that my dad foolishly bought into the comic boom there's no way my parents would have been willing to pay that much a month to keep up with them (Clone Saga).
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It's kind of a wash, though, because so many comics nowadays are massively kid-unfriendly and not really kept separate from the kid-friendly ones in comics stores that a kid buying comics for him/herself might end up picking out something like Saga or Punisher MAX and causing no small amount of parental uproar. Seriously, I kinda take it for granted being a 19-year-old but my friendly neighborhood comics shop had Saga right next to a Transformers comic in the indie section. Definitely a situation that requires either very attentive comic shop owners or parental accompaniment (in which case why not just have the parents buy the drat things anyways).
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Jun 2, 2014 05:17
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SALT CURES HAM posted:It's kind of a wash, though, because so many comics nowadays are massively kid-unfriendly and not really kept separate from the kid-friendly ones in comics stores that a kid buying comics for him/herself might end up picking out something like Saga or Punisher MAX and causing no small amount of parental uproar. Well good shops will have employees point kids towards appropriate comics they'd like. Rhyno had a great story about selling a little girl Ms. Marvel, She-hulk and a third comic I cant remember at a loss (or at least less than retail) just to encourage young readers. I do think a good comic shop should have a shelf for the 12ish and under that's prominent.
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Jun 2, 2014 06:33
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My LCBS has a sign that says unaccompanied children under 16 are flat out not welcome in the shop. I guess that's one way to solve that problem.
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anticake posted:My LCBS has a sign that says unaccompanied children under 16 are flat out not welcome in the shop. I guess that's one way to solve that problem. tbf, a shame though it may be, there's a lot of comics out there that you probably don't want small kids just grabbing off the shelf without a parent around to screen what they're reading (cough half of DC's current output cough). Although 16 does seem like a little bit of a high bar to set.
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anticake posted:My LCBS has a sign that says unaccompanied children under 16 are flat out not welcome in the shop. I guess that's one way to solve that problem. They are solving the wrong problem. Don't get me wrong, the other issue with kids is that they will steal in a loving heartbeat, so I understand having that sign up.
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Jun 2, 2014 07:53
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anticake posted:My LCBS has a sign that says unaccompanied children under 16 are flat out not welcome in the shop. I guess that's one way to solve that problem. Man, when I was a kid, there was a whole shelf of '90s "bad girl" comics in the back of the store that I shouldn't have been allowed to get close to, let alone read. I wouldn't want to run the risk of some ten-year-old finding the Avatar books.
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Jun 2, 2014 11:29
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My local comic shop just has an off-limits adult section in the back and puts all the kid stuff towards the front and it's never been an issue as far as I'm aware. Of course they also have a whole rack of "yaoi manga" right out in the open so kind of two steps forward, one step back.
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Jun 2, 2014 11:40
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anticake posted:My LCBS has a sign that says unaccompanied children under 16 are flat out not welcome in the shop. I guess that's one way to solve that problem. That's a really terrible solution when they could easily just have a kids section instead. I mean it's effectively saying comics are not for kids and they are not welcome there.
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Skwirl posted:It's definitely not the only reason, but the fact that kids can't afford to buy their own comics is a huge factor in kids not buying comics. I got into Spider-Man when it had as many titles as X-men and if it weren't for fact that my dad foolishly bought into the comic boom there's no way my parents would have been willing to pay that much a month to keep up with them (Clone Saga). My parents definitely made it clear that I didn't get to get a toy every time we went to the store, but they were fine if I ever asked for a comic book. Part of it was that comics were super cheap in the 80s, it meant that me reading it gave them some quiet, and they really really wanted me to read as much as I wanted. I got plenty of comics and traditional books. Are comics too expensive for parents?
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