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It is a little awkward referring to women that you supposedly respect as "females," "girls" or "feminine fighters." I suppose a clearer way to put my point is that if any corporation or video game convention has the option of prioritizing "serious tournaments" or diversity, it is in their best interest to focus on the latter, particularly in an industry that is absolutely infamous for being hostile toward women.
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Bicyclops posted:It is a little awkward referring to women that you supposedly respect as "females," "girls" or "feminine fighters." I'm sorry, I don't comprehend the stigma, just trying to use as many synonyms as possible. I agree with you in the case of these laid back Nintendo exhibitions or conventions, so long as the distinction is clear. If Nintendo were to supposedly sponsor MLG or Evo, and give women preferential seeding so their bracket would be easier for the sake of diversity, that would be a problem. F. Lobot fucked around with this message at 17:09 on May 30, 2014 |
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May 30, 2014 17:07
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Yeah that chaingrabbing woman would have been cool but I'm guessing her smash nickname of Syphilis wouldn't quite work out. Also other dude don't say "females" when talking about people. Female or Male is only acceptable as an adjective for humans. Males and Females are wild animals. An adult female person is called a woman. An adult male person is a man.
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May 30, 2014 17:10
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We just spent a long time pretending the competitive Smash community is important
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May 30, 2014 17:11
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Women, dude. The one word you've never used is women. I don't mind going 'chicks' or 'girls' or whatever I'm not gonna call you sexist for that, but it is kiiiiinda weird that you've usually literally every word possible for them but 'women.' Anyway, if you have to spend 20 posts repeating that you totally aren't sexist, for reals, buuuuut, maybe you actually are being kind of a shithead and should just shut up.
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May 30, 2014 17:12
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Quest For Glory II posted:We just spent a long time pretending the competitive Smash community is important They used to be until somebody came in and Jizzed all over the smash community's perfect reputation.
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May 30, 2014 17:13
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Edit: this was unnecessarily mean, sorry
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May 30, 2014 17:13
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Golden Goat posted:They used to be until somebody came in and Jizzed all over the smash community's perfect reputation. That was really more the sperm droplet that broke the camel's back.
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May 30, 2014 17:15
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Like diversity is good and we can take that from that conversation but in the time I was asleep I came to the realization that we almost gave respect and consideration to the smash brothers game for children competitive fighting industry and for that I apologize and have already rewired in my brain to pay that respect towards a more worthy endeavor like the Coney Island hot dog eating competition on July 4th
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May 30, 2014 17:16
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azTEfWNbcc4
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May 30, 2014 17:17
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Jesus at this point I'd rather we just go back to talking about how Samus's boobs are too big.
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May 30, 2014 17:17
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PantsBandit posted:Jesus at this point I'd rather we just go back to talking about how Samus's boobs are too big. Is there really a "Too big" for breasts? 
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May 30, 2014 17:21
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Zain posted:Is there really a "Too big" for breasts? I don't know. On a scale of 1 to Ridley...
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May 30, 2014 17:24
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PantsBandit posted:Jesus at this point I'd rather we just go back to talking about how Samus's boobs are too big. When Ridley joins the battle and Samus is in play, a new character is unlocked, "Young Samus". Her boobs are still the same size though.
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May 30, 2014 17:25
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Quest For Glory II posted:Like diversity is good and we can take that from that conversation but in the time I was asleep I came to the realization that we almost gave respect and consideration to the smash brothers game for children competitive fighting industry and for that I apologize and have already rewired in my brain to pay that respect towards a more worthy endeavor like the Coney Island hot dog eating competition on July 4th I mean, this is more or less my point: that the specific thing we're talking about (being the best at pressing the buttons in the cartoon fighting game) is so unimportant that almost literally any measure that is taken which may result in women feeling more comfortable participating in video games as a hobby is a better decision. In the scale of importance, there are of course a ton of things that are more important than women feeling more comfortable participating in video games, but it has so much more relevance and importance than "the integrity of Smash Brothers competitive play" that the latter is not worth considering.
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May 30, 2014 17:26
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Endorph posted:Women, dude. The one word you've never used is women. I don't mind going 'chicks' or 'girls' or whatever I'm not gonna call you sexist for that, but it is kiiiiinda weird that you've usually literally every word possible for them but 'women.' I don't want to continue this either, but that's not true: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3623565&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=115#post430331327 Also, isn't it a compliment to call a grown woman a girl, the same way it is to call a boy 'young man'? Usually, women want to look eternally youthful, and boys want to look rugged, badass, and manly.
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May 30, 2014 17:27
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F. Lobot posted:Also, isn't it a compliment to call a grown woman a girl, the same way it is to call a boy 'young man'? Usually, women want to look eternally youthful, and boys want to look rugged, badass, and manly. But for the record, in certain contexts it could be considered a compliment, *I guess,* like if you're specifically saying someone looks young, but women do in fact care about things other than their looks. For instance, respect. Do you not get how, in the context of 'these people shouldn't be here, or are not as good as the others', calling them 'girls' could come across disrespectful and rude? As if you're calling them immature, or worth less respect than the men. Endorph fucked around with this message at 17:33 on May 30, 2014 |
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May 30, 2014 17:29
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F. Lobot posted:
It is not and sounds belittling, hope this helps.
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May 30, 2014 17:29
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Sooooo the adapter thing is pretty cool. Does that mean we're getting a rerelease of Gamecube controllers too?
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May 30, 2014 17:30
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Golden Goat posted:Sooooo the adapter thing is pretty cool. Does that mean we're getting a rerelease of Gamecube controllers too? Oh god one could only hope! That controller was the only reason Starfox Adventures is even remotely enjoyable to play.
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May 30, 2014 17:32
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It's a little funny how the relative sizes of hitboxes, the advantages of the currently extinct wavebird and Waluigi poetry are all perfectly acceptable topics but the second that the participation of or depiction of women comes up, even when it is relevant to the most recent published news items, there is always a panicky crusade to change the subject as quickly as possible. I do hope they re-release something like a Wavebird and that it's affordable. It would do a lot to get the Melee crowd interested in the game.
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May 30, 2014 17:36
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Bicyclops posted:It's a little funny how the relative sizes of hitboxes, the advantages of the currently extinct wavebird and Waluigi poetry are all perfectly acceptable topics but the second that the participation of or depiction of women comes up, even when it is relevant to the most recent published news items, there is always a panicky crusade to change the subject as quickly as possible. It's because everybody is basically saying the same thing and has been for the past two pages except for the occasional stupid person who says something stupid and everybody latches onto it for another page.
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May 30, 2014 17:38
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I wonder if the WiiU pro controller would be any use in this case? It comfortable enough and for stuff like Wonderful 101 it works perfectly.
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May 30, 2014 17:41
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Golden Goat posted:Sooooo the adapter thing is pretty cool. Does that mean we're getting a rerelease of Gamecube controllers too? Most likely, the controller they showed has a new Smash logo so it's probably a reissue. This is the best news of all because it will keep the Melee scene alive, even better if they release Melee on virtual console or an HD port. The two remaining questions are: will it lag? and will it work for Wii games? Endorph posted:But for the record, in certain contexts it could be considered a compliment, *I guess,* like if you're specifically saying someone looks young, but women do in fact care about things other than their looks. For instance, respect. Do you not get how, in the context of 'these people shouldn't be here, or are not as good as the others', calling them 'girls' could come across disrespectful and rude? As if you're calling them immature, or worth less respect than the men. I did not realize. It was unintentional and I am sorry. The End.
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May 30, 2014 17:41
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It's pretty much a given we're getting 3 Fire Emblem characters now that Ike's confirmed, right? I can't imagine them not giving Chrom/NotChrom a slot when Awakening was the best seller that series had and Star Fox had 3 last time when that series was deader than dead.
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May 30, 2014 17:42
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Yeah, definitely getting 3 FE characters. The only question I have is if we're getting a second FE stage, too, since 3 characters with only one stage is kind of weird. A stage based on the Tower or the Ruins from Sacred Stones would be pretty cool, you could have monsters run by and attack and poo poo.
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May 30, 2014 17:43
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F. Lobot posted:Most likely, the controller they showed has a new Smash logo so it's probably a reissue.
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May 30, 2014 17:43
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Endorph posted:Yeah, definitely getting 3 FE characters. The only question I have is if we're getting a second FE stage, too, since 3 characters with only one stage is kind of weird. Was the stage from Brawl a map in an FE game, or was it just ~generic castle~? I'm not too familiar with the series (just hopped in on the new one) but is there any particularly iconic place they could use?
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May 30, 2014 17:46
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Golden Goat posted:I have a bad feeling that's just for the tournament. There's something off about it in those pictures. It'd be really weird for them to start selling a Gamecube controller port and not also start selling controllers, I think.
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May 30, 2014 17:48
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TheKingofSprings posted:Was the stage from Brawl a map in an FE game, or was it just ~generic castle~? Well I can think of a couple battlefields from Awakening that would make awesome stages. At one point you fight on an active volcano, another fight is on the roots of a giant tree.
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May 30, 2014 17:48
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And given that yes, they're pretty much for Smash, branding them with the logo isn't too bad of an idea (it owns, actually, I really like that logo they went with). Edit: ^You mention those, and not about being on the back of a giant dragon  ? I was thinking about places more from games not named Awakening, since Arena Ferox is the (pretty cool) place that represents that game and I don't see it needing more than one stage.
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May 30, 2014 17:49
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Bicyclops posted:It'd be really weird for them to start selling a Gamecube controller port and not also start selling controllers, I think. Considering the amount of times players were screaming out for gamecube controllers I figure they'll make a neat profit off all this. Assuming that most people will want the game + 1-4 controllers + the adapter.
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May 30, 2014 17:50
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Golden Goat posted:Considering the amount of times players were screaming out for gamecube controllers I figure they'll make a neat profit off all this. Assuming that most people will want the game + 1-4 controllers + the adapter. I reckon they'll bundle the adapter with one Smash-Branded GCN controller for around $30-$40 total.
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May 30, 2014 17:52
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I'm still fruitlessly holding out for a Custom Robo character to be playable. 
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May 30, 2014 17:57
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DoctorWhat posted:I reckon they'll bundle the adapter with one Smash-Branded GCN controller for around $30-$40 total. I'm hoping the adapter is packaged with the game by default, because it would suck to bring your own controller to a friend's house and not be able to use it. Golden Goat posted:I have a bad feeling that's just for the tournament. There's something off about it in those pictures. They wouldn't show it off to softcore porn music and then not sell it. Nintendo needs to make money. F. Lobot fucked around with this message at 18:01 on May 30, 2014 |
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May 30, 2014 17:59
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TheKingofSprings posted:Was the stage from Brawl a map in an FE game, or was it just ~generic castle~? It was a generic castle, the designers thought just a multi part castle siege represented the series as a whole well, since apart from certain instances all the stages in Fire Emblem games are kinda interchangeable. At least until Awakening.
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May 30, 2014 18:03
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TheKingofSprings posted:Was the stage from Brawl a map in an FE game, or was it just ~generic castle~? As for iconic places? Absolutely. One place that comes to mind is The Dread Isle from FE7. About a fourth of the game takes place there, including the climax of the game, and it's got a magical gate that summons dragons and poo poo and everything. It'd make for a neat stage. And as mentioned, The Ruins/The Tower from FE8, which are infested with creepy monsters that'd make for fun stage hazards. They could even have Lyon (and his sweet-rear end cape  ) appear as a boss hazard if they went that route. Not to mention, with Marth, Ike, an Awakening rep, and Lyn as an assist trophy, FE4/5 and FE8 are the only games without any gameplay representation in Smash.
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May 30, 2014 18:05
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Grima's Back.
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May 30, 2014 18:07
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Rainbow Mario stage/F-Zero stage-alike that goes through the entirety of the FE4/5 world.
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Speaking of though, I hadn't thought about it, but since Ike's still with us, in Radiant Dawn form, we'll hopefully get some tracks from RD as well as Awakening. 'Cause I really wanna Smash to some mix of The Devoted, don't let me down Sakurai. I don't really care what music they pick from Awakening, it's all fantastic, but I'd be surprised if they don't include Id Purpose.
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